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Star Wars: The Clone Wars Comments by Tom Bramwell

25 November, 2002

Tom goes to war over the best Star Wars film since Empire

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Tiitiz
25/11/02 @ 13:55
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On about the same par as other reviews.

/me wonders if the Splinter Cell review is coming soon or today! :)
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binky
25/11/02 @ 13:58
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So if its a choice between this at 40 quid and Rogue leader at 17quid .... ??
otto [mod]
25/11/02 @ 14:03
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Rhetorical question right? (sorry bit slow today)
binky
25/11/02 @ 14:46
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25/11/02 @ 19:00
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Funnily enough, I consider AotC superior to The Empire Strikes back. It contained far less schmultz and the story didn't have quite the same level of "with a leap and a bound the hero was free" about it. Star Wars fans shouldn't take much comfort in my saying that as I think all the Star Wars films are complete and utter garbage.
Killerbee
25/11/02 @ 19:05
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The Phantom Menace had all the ingredients of a great film (imho, of course)- it was just let down by a few fairly significant ingredients - the script (as opposed to the story) was a bit crap to say the least; there was one too many annoying characters (i.e. Anakin and Jar-Jar Binks in the same film); and the final battle scenes were split apart too much, so you never got a good feeling of continuity in any of them.

I fully believe that if Lucas had let us watch the Qui-Gon / Obi-Wan / Darth Maul light sabre fight without all the bits of Anakin going "Wheeeeeee!" in between, the fans would have loved the film simply because it ended on a spectacular high point.

Which makes it more of a shame that it ended up disappointing so much. Still, I can't wait for Episode III and the six-movie DVD box set that will inevitably follow it to be released!
Killerbee
25/11/02 @ 19:14
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I think all the Star Wars films are complete and utter garbage

Ooooohh... You're courting controversy with that one! I think as long as you acknowledge Star Wars for what they are - primarily kids' adventure films with cool special FX, laser guns, space ships and a bit of mythology strapped on (lets face it, none of the plots would win any awards for originality), then there's no reason why anyone shouldn't agree that they are great films.

Other than in the realms of special FX I'll grant you that they've never pushed the boundaries of cinema in the way that Hitchcock, Ridley Scott (when he's on form) or Kubrick have, but you've just got to enjoy them for the fantasy and escapism they offer.

Of course, if you're not into space ships and light sabres, there's little else there...
AOFanboi
25/11/02 @ 19:20
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Phantom Menace looked and played like a toy catalog (see the race sequence, then buy the game!), in AotC the story progressed by leaps and bounds, and you actually had intrigue.

But this game? Naah. I'd rather stick to Jedi Starfighter on the PS2, kthx.
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26/11/02 @ 03:00
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Attack of the Clones was just a poorly constructed mish-mash of action sequences and nauseating love scenes. After watching the DVD extras, I felt very sorry for all the artists who put in so much effort only to see their work's potential ruined by an inept story and poor direction. The Phantom Menace at least had Darth Maul and some great lightsaber fights. Attack of the Clones has Yoda bouncing and spinning around trying to hit a geriatric.
Nemesis
26/11/02 @ 10:18
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Attack of the Clones has Yoda bouncing and spinning around trying to hit a geriatric.


Sing with me....Heroes in a half shell....
pjmaybe
26/11/02 @ 10:48
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To be fair to Attack of the Clones, it's actually beginning to link in with the original Star Wars a bit more. But nevertheless there will be those old farts on here (like me) who still think that Lucas should've actually made the bloody things in the correct order in the first place..

It's quite good watching Ani go "bad" as the film progresses, and Nathalie Portman in that kinky dominatrix costume is nice and easy on the eye...the final battle was ace, as were the sequences with the cloning vats...but it still feels like Star Wars lite.

And one thing that got me was that Ani went off to look for his mum who'd been missing / living with Lars for ten years right? Then he meets Owen and his girlfriend and Owen introduces himself as "Ani's half brother" - So you're telling me that he was ten years old? Um...cock up on the scripting front there methinks - should've said "step-brother" or somethin...I dunno, it's nitpicking but it still sticks in ye ole craw..

Oh the game! Yeah looks like they built it around the old and atrocious Force Commander engine.

Peej
FWB
26/11/02 @ 12:20
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My take on Star Wars the series:

Phantom Menace:
Racist
Annoying kid
Annoying Jar-Jar
Special effects look dated even now

Attack of the Clones:
Shite name
Annoying and long-winded love scenes
Boba Fett's dad dies too easily
Annoying kid
Portman's acting skills are horrific. I know she can do better
Special effects are neat though, but I've seen it all before

A New Hope:
Classic
Nicely wrapped up storyline, all in one package
Leia switching between English and American accent
Alec Guinness

Empire Strikes Back:
Snow, snow and more snow
Great combat scenes
Bad guys win. This makes it a true epic
Boba Fett

Return of the Jedi:
Stormtroopers in forest dressed in white
Walt Disney
Leia in bikini
Boba Fett

In my opinion the originals look almost as good as the new ones in the special effects department. That's really saying something about how the latest films have been slapped together
Mr Sleep
26/11/02 @ 12:55
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Return of the Jedi - Muppets in Space.
Kronos
26/11/02 @ 20:28
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I thought Ani going bonkers in the Tuscan camp had potential but they cut away almost immediately. I wanted fullon rage and slaughter. How its left makes it feel tacked on as it has nothing to do with the main story. That whole section of film is almost a direct ripoff of Luke in his speeder right when his parents get slaughtered by stormtroopers.

I can't see how they are going to bridge the gap from here to where Star Wars starts with the full on aged evil Darth Vader

mumble - force commander -engine mumble - token attempt to stay on topic
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ssuellid
26/11/02 @ 21:25
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The audio is shite in episode II as well. None of the deservedly oscar winning/nominated sound people from episode I were involved in episode II.
pjmaybe
27/11/02 @ 11:14
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"The audio is shite in episode II as well. None of the deservedly oscar winning/nominated sound people from episode I were involved in episode II."

Oh I dunno - the sonic charges in the asteroid field from Jango's ship were pretty cool (in the cinema - at home they just sound a bit like damp squibs)

Tell ya what though, when you see the scenes they cut from Ep II you're bloody grateful! Most of them look like they were lifted from old episodes of "Sons and Daughters!" (and if you remember that you're as old as I am!)

Like Kronos already said, it would've been better if they'd shown Ani really losing it...I suppose we get to see all that in the next gripping installment of "Star Wars - Space Soap Opera.."

Peej
ssuellid
27/11/02 @ 11:25
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re Star Wars sound. The pod race is the best use of surround sound ever, episode 2 sounds like they do not even know what surround steering is. Sounds far better at home then my local cinemas anyway.

Peej, Sons and Daughters - Friday Channel 5, 5am ish. Quick spoiler for you
"Wayne considers taking drastic action to get Patricia off his case and Beryl tells David their marriage is over "
pjmaybe
27/11/02 @ 11:46
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I used to have a massive crush on Jill...

Someone shoot me now, shoot me in the head!

Peej
Nemesis
27/11/02 @ 11:49
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Sons and Daughters

F..ks sake. Someone burn the tapes. Please.

SW. Need violence not comic interludes in battle sequences. What a drag. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh. I'm beside myself. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh
ssuellid
27/11/02 @ 11:55
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Damn, somehow my brain has remembered the theme tune and its stuck in my head.

www.sonsanddaughters.co.uk
pjmaybe
27/11/02 @ 12:03
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Nemesis - Good call. I almost wished Threepio had got crunched purely on that basis...suddenly he made Jar Jar Binks look like the greatest orator in history.

Of course, now we all know that the entire way the imperial/rebel struggle went down was all due to Jar Jar binks' approval of the use of clone warriors. Had he not given the go ahead in the senate meeting, there would be no massive imperial army...

So what they're basically saying is IT WAS ALL JAR JAR BINKS' FAULT!

Another good reason to spitroast the fuqar!

Peej
Nemesis
27/11/02 @ 12:18
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Yipee!
pjmaybe
27/11/02 @ 12:27
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Too late Master Kenobi, you too have gone over to the dark side of Anzac soap opera misery...

Guess you guys used to get home from school and watch this, same as I did. Oh dear we're so sad!

SONS AND DAUGHTERS - THE RTS - WE WANT IT NOW!!!!

Peej
Nemesis
27/11/02 @ 12:28
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The whole brown intro should of warned you in advance. $hite.
pjmaybe
27/11/02 @ 14:05
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JESUS! where do you guys get 'em from..

Gordon Hamilton and Dick Dastardly - separated at birth!

Peej
st3ph3n
27/11/02 @ 18:12
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A mediocre game for a mediocre film. It wasn't phantom menace bad, but only really saved from falling into total obscurity by Natalie Portman in that outfit, and Yoda being the daddy.

But then the first three were painfully average in my most humble of opinions.
terminalterror
27/11/02 @ 20:42
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So what they're basically saying is IT WAS ALL JAR JAR BINKS' FAULT!

That was my favourite moment in the whole film (apart from the sonic charges). Jar Jar Binks finally has purpose (starting the whole evil empire thing)
pjmaybe
28/11/02 @ 08:53
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Yep, with any luck, Ep III will open with Jar Jar Binks being put to death by a rebel war criminal court.

Fat chance of that though.

Peej
Errol
09/12/02 @ 11:34
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but only really saved from falling into total obscurity by Natalie Portman in that outfit

Its good to see that George Lucas finally decided that a bit of HOT BABE IN TIGHT CLOTHING was a good thing.

All we need now, is for Episode III to have a naked scene, so we can see more of her.

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