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Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic Comments by Kieron Gillen

12 September, 2003

Kieron Gillen's only a master of evil...

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Nemesis
12/09/03 @ 13:07
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1st!

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renzo
12/09/03 @ 13:14
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3rd!

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Hicksy
12/09/03 @ 13:14
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2nd?!

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Machiavel
12/09/03 @ 13:15
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Phew!

/mops brow with cellophaned mint copy - unsuccessfully
FWB
12/09/03 @ 13:15
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Nice pic, Kieron.
Machiavel
12/09/03 @ 13:16
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And when did Kieron turn into Bono the Geek?

:)
Dizzy
12/09/03 @ 13:17
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\o/

Getting this game asap!
renzo
12/09/03 @ 13:17
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oops... I was trying to compensate for my dire connection :)
fatboy996
12/09/03 @ 13:20
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"Along with Halo, it's the reason to invite Bill Gates into your house". Got that? Great."

Does this mean Halo is now 9/10 instead of the daft 8/10. I'll get my coat!

mentat [mod]
12/09/03 @ 13:23
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have to find somewhere that i can get this on the way home... :/
Nemesis
12/09/03 @ 13:24
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Anyway, er, 9/10 then. Good old Bioware.

Free Jaffa Cakes to all Day1 KOTOR purchasers! Oh, that's me. /eats another one
statix101
12/09/03 @ 13:26
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Am i the ONLY one to find RPG's tedious in the extreme...all that random combat crap...whats the point of it when you dont have control over the outcome of a battle and it's decided by some complex random mathematical calculation of the Pc...Same with RTS genre too much random chance gaming...
rygel
12/09/03 @ 13:32
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Yes... yes you are.
CyberClaw
12/09/03 @ 13:34
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The fun of an RPG, isn't being able to do new stuff, but improving the odds of doing something (many times revealing new and more powerfull stuff).
Pratical example while in FPS you'll be rewarded by your advance with a new powerfull weapon, in a RPG, you'll get a new skill, which will let you for example do an enraged attack with lesser odds of connecting than a normal attack. Yes, you don't control the odds, but you control the strategic selection of the abilities (both in getting new skills, and using them in battlefields). This translates to a more strategic factor, which you don't seem to favor, given you compare it to RTSs. (might I had, RTSs offer plenty of strategy and few randomness. A plane fighter might be a powerfull weapon, but if it gets in the reach of a Flak cannon, it'll be easly taken down. A Flak cannon which is weak versus normal tanks, which in turn are probably weak versus airplanes. Strategy, see?)

I like strategy alot :D I also dislike regular FFs (I like the story, bt not the gameplay). FFTA for GBA, is a jewel though :)
Blerk
12/09/03 @ 13:39
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Most important thing here: they don't assume console players are dumb and want less than their PC-equipped friends.

Finally! Someone realises that owning a console doesn't mean you want a watered-down, mass-market, arcade-action version of the game. Everyone else - take note. Ya buggers.

If I had an Xbox I would get this. No question. It looks brilloid.
Killerbee
12/09/03 @ 13:46
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If I had an Xbox I would get this. No question. It looks brilloid.

Me too. When's it due on the PC?
mugwump
12/09/03 @ 13:46
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Wahey Eurogamer - great turn out of reviews today!

That's my piece done. . .
Pac-man ate my wife
12/09/03 @ 13:49
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Blimey, this might be the first game I play on my Xbox since Halo...
K.A.G
12/09/03 @ 13:53
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Whos this Kieron Gillen reviewer bloke? Is it the same guy was or maybe still is Editor of PC Gamer???
mouse [staff]
12/09/03 @ 14:04
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He never was the editor as far as I know, but he did/does write for them occasionally, yes.
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DaM
12/09/03 @ 14:06
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After wiping the dust off the XBox, and remembering how to turn the thing on, removed Halo from it and spent a few hours on this last night....till 2 am....

Plus a card game I can understand, and win! I always shudder at the thoughtof them, after FFVIII, where I used to just throw cards down at random....


Tried to persuade my wife to spend another night away on business tonight, but she wasn't having it. The minute Gardeners World starts, I can nip off, using my "pish tv " excuse!
Blerk
12/09/03 @ 14:09
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after FFVIII, where I used to just throw cards down at random....

Tut tut. FF8's card game wasn't hard to understand! In fact, it was better than FF8 itself. ;-)
Tricky
12/09/03 @ 14:11
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Nem - chuck us one of them Jaffa Cakes!

Actually, wait a bit until I've come back downstairs from quickly trying this in the X Box in our test room.
Mugwum [staff]
12/09/03 @ 14:12
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"I have no issue with this review ;)"

Tosser! :)
MaTTy_P
12/09/03 @ 14:17
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just spent the last 3 hours playing it, and two last night. Compleatly outstanding...allthough i did notice a few jaggies (on xbox...eh?) but gameplay is spot on, voices are great, and i feel as though im actually going to be drawn in to actually care for the characters and what happens to them. Only two other games have ever done this for me, Zelda - Ocarina of time and the 1st metal gear, yes thats right...no blummin magic land dizzy :). oh and maybes ico, allthough i didnt play it loads, my m8 stole it off me.

top top game...and about bloody time too.
Hicksy
12/09/03 @ 14:21
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everyone has BG in their house

just very few admit it
Nemesis
12/09/03 @ 14:26
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/pops open another packet of JC's.

Gonna be a looooong weekend.
mingster
12/09/03 @ 14:27
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How does this game rate if you looked at it as an RPG without the star wars license attached. Compared to and played as a standard RPG is it still any good or is it only the fact you can be a jedi and use a lightsabre that makes this stand out from the crowd.
MaTTy_P
12/09/03 @ 14:30
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tbh, its a strong rpg, with a decent story line, and very strong rpg elemnets, weather it be set in starwars land or not. Lightsaber is just like a magic sword in the likes of nwn, and the force powers are basically magician skills from nwn...fan of rpgs, fan of starwars...either will like it in my opinion. Thankfully, im a fan of both.
Tricky
12/09/03 @ 14:30
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Shame about the lack of widescreen mode, but at least my surround speakers are going to get a workout. Hope the gf doesn't mind watching me play this otherwise I'm gonna have to sneak back to it at some stupid hour of the night!

/readies catchers mitt for a sterling JC throw from Nem.
nalmeida
12/09/03 @ 14:34
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Question has been made but no answer was given, when is this out in PC? on the subject where is the release dates list of Eurogamer?
Merefield
12/09/03 @ 14:38
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I'm gonna wait for the PC port.

Cos I'm like that...
CyberClaw
12/09/03 @ 14:39
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Like the reviewer said, he hates StarWars, yet he loves this game, so it's a very good RPG, even if you don't care for Star Wars.
Tricky
12/09/03 @ 14:40
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Last I heard, it was due out on PC in November. Whether it'll appear then though is another matter of course...
mouse [staff]
12/09/03 @ 14:42
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a) Fourth quarter, date TBC.
b) In the previews menu. Yes, we know it's a stupid place for it.
otto [mod]
12/09/03 @ 14:48
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:O guest reviewer???

edit - incidentally, what kind of PC is one going to need to run this?
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mouse [staff]
12/09/03 @ 14:50
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Yep!
gamesb*tch
12/09/03 @ 14:56
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LOL... this is from the same guy who's mag puts Vice City at the top of the 100 PC games of all time... LOL
Tiitiz
12/09/03 @ 15:01
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/shocked

where is Gamesb*tch?

hehe... just messing with ya :)
Nemesis
12/09/03 @ 15:04
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GO LONG!

/throws
BremXJones
12/09/03 @ 15:09
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Long time reader, first time writer. Love the show!

K.A.G. "Whos this Kieron Gillen reviewer bloke? Is it the same guy was or maybe still"

Got to Deputy Editor, then quit to become a freelance writer.

Blerk:
"Finally! Someone realises that owning a console doesn't mean you want a watered-down, mass-market, arcade-action version of the game. Everyone else - take note. Ya buggers."

I agree totally. Hopefully Bioware have started something interesting.

KG
otto [mod]
12/09/03 @ 15:10
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*sniff* I want a cube port *sniff*
bionutz
12/09/03 @ 15:12
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Yeah my gf objects so I play on my gba sp golden sun 2 after 12 o'clock (when she's already asleep) - which is a killer the next day.
By the way, I don't get it: what happens when some character is touched or hit with a light sabre? How did the developers dealt with that: the character should loose a leg or some other organs, and not just health...
Nemesis
12/09/03 @ 15:15
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*sniff* I want a cube port *sniff*

/passes lubricant, phones authorities.
K.A.G
12/09/03 @ 15:27
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BremXJones

I thought i recognised your mug shot from all the crazy photochopping your head onto games characters used in the mag. Recognised your nick from the CS antics back in the day too.

Either that or i secretly stalk you through the wonders of the internet.
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binky
12/09/03 @ 15:51
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Gots to say, Ive never been a big fan of RPGs myself, certainly not the likes of final fantasy, that kinda thing. will this game change my opinion.

Shenmue is probably the closest i have come, unless zelda counts?
Tricky
12/09/03 @ 15:51
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GO LONG!

/throws


Well that was quite long - took at least 40 minutes to get here ;-)

DaM
12/09/03 @ 16:00
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incidentally, what kind of PC is one going to need to run this?
An average one, stuffed inside a black box, with naff stylings and a big green X.

As for FVIII cards, maybe I should have persevered! Looking back I am sure I tried a few times....I may have even read the instructions.

BTW, does anyone know why sometimes on KOTOR you enter an area, there is a wee noise, and your character face bit at the bottom RHS of the screen has a big arrow on it? Couldn't find it in the instructions, don't recall it being mentoned in the game. Both my guys had it on last night (this morning!) when I saved.
Errol
12/09/03 @ 16:18
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character generation is kept stripped down, with a choice of sex and three possible classes

I choose sex every time.
Dabs
12/09/03 @ 16:18
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"Whos this Kieron Gillen reviewer bloke? Is it the same guy was or maybe still is Editor of PC Gamer???"

He's only a former JOTY and the best darn thing that ever happened to PCG, his departure from the mag taking with it all the character that PCG once had. Fortunately for the mag, he still contributes now and then.

Great to see his quality journalism spreading to games websites I frequent! :D (Not that there's owt at all wrong with Mugs, krud, mouse, etc.!)


[Edit: Yep Kieron, I'm Sam, if you remember me. Allo! :o) ]
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