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Super Smash Bros. Melee Comments by Tom Bramwell

23 May, 2002

Review - Nintendo's cutesy fighter is a darn sight more relevant than you'd think

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Alastair
23/05/02 @ 12:39
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'In fact, do you *ever* have to hold down 'B' to get it? You don't for SMB & RL either.'

I think you do the first time. I reckon it saves it on the mem card that you used 60Hz and so prompts you for ever after....
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23/05/02 @ 12:39
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No problem PIROTIC - not sure about the manuals and stuff, but you have a contract with the shop for them to supply you with goods that are fit for the purpose intended, under the UK consumer goods act or something. They probably do just end up going back to Nintendo though - after all, what are EB going to do with a broken console?
eviltobz
23/05/02 @ 12:47
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'In fact, do you *ever* have to hold down 'B' to get it? You don't for SMB & RL either.'

RL didn't give me an option of 60Hz when I first started it up, but it offers it in the options screen, and subsequently prompts me each time I load it up now.
otto [mod]
23/05/02 @ 12:48
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Cheers lads, that must be it (also explains why I took ages to work out that SMB had a 60hz option)
Nemesis
23/05/02 @ 12:50
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Good nominations FeZZ!

I've got my two to claim, which will be DOA and RS. I couldn't get on with Munch when I played the demo. F1 is on this months OXM so I'll have a muck about on that tonight.

otto [mod]
23/05/02 @ 12:56
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"Good nominations FeZZ!"

Three racing games, two xtreme sports sims and a beat-em-up? Would anyone really have spent £150 on three racing games if they weren't getting them for free?

Even if you like those kinds of games, I think it's a bit far-fetched to say that those 8 are worth spending 400 quid on.
Nemesis
23/05/02 @ 13:03
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I dunno, some people might, but I personally wouldn't. If you're into the driving genre, for example, you get Rally, Street racing and Formula 1 and that's quite a spread. I have PGR and (did have) RS and they were significantly different to warrant the purchase.

They are not identical games.

Also, you could get Amped, JSRF and THPS3, all again a similar genre, but different enough to warrant purchase.

Individually all good games, with the exception of (IMO) Munch which has a sucky camera and ruins anything good about the game. J&D ruined my perception of platformers forever!
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FeZZ
23/05/02 @ 13:03
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Yes well otto I don't usually buy 8 games in one month neither.
Same goes for Ps2 then , what's the point on having 3 racing games if you have GT3 ?
IMHO a rally game, a street racing game and a F1 game are totaly different games.
And yes on GC you don't have that problem since the only racing game is Burnout.
skalmanxl
23/05/02 @ 13:03
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Calling F1 2002 a racing game isn't correct. It's a slideshow sim.
AnotherMartin
23/05/02 @ 13:06
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RE: 60hz - It seems to me that if you have the RGB it will prompt for 60hz. RL seems to propmt you anyway but I'm sure SMB only started promting me when I got my RGB lead (even thou you could force it by holding 'B'). This could explain the confusion of the RGB lead being advertised as being needed to enable 60hz.

RE: SSB-M - I have been orderd by my Nephew to buy this (I wanted it anyway) but I'm worried he will kick my ar$e as he had the N64 version and played it to death. I've pre ordered it from GAME but went and bought an extra controller yesterday as I can see these being in short supply once SSB hits the stores.
Gestalt
23/05/02 @ 13:13
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"F1 2002"

Have you played it? The game chugs and looks nothing at all like the screenshots EA gave us pre-release.
FWB
23/05/02 @ 13:16
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fucking gamecube fanboys are worse than Xbox fanboys

Well then don't fuck them. Use some self control and keep your pants on.

FeZZ
23/05/02 @ 13:26
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Nah gamecube fanboys are much more fanatict then xbox fanboys.
When I was six I was wetting my pants to0 when I saw the red and white nintendo logo somewhere.
But then I grew up.
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otto [mod]
23/05/02 @ 13:29
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Oh FeZZ FeZZ FeZZ...

tut
FeZZ
23/05/02 @ 13:44
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Yes I know otto it slipped out.
But I trust Gestalt to delete comments like that...
I don't manage to starts flame wars like I used to, must be loosing my special annoying peoples to dead gift somehow.
Maybe if I try this:
The xbox has a nice GUI with a settings tab.
In these settings all you have to do is go to the 60 Hz option, and set it to YES.
Easy, clean, powerfull, xbox...
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Stackler
23/05/02 @ 13:58
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But will it play on my Atari 2600? because that has real power and you know it!
Pirotic
23/05/02 @ 14:00
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going have to trundle all the way to gloucester and see if they'll replace my gamecube for me, only got the damn thing to play smashbrothers on :P
terminalterror
23/05/02 @ 15:14
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I'm personally looking forward to playing as Mr Game and Watch (a secret character)
Pirotic
23/05/02 @ 15:27
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erm.. the only one i remember which was 'dodgy' was the one near the bus station, and is now out of business.
terminalterror
23/05/02 @ 18:58
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DoA 17?

=)
sup4 l33t h4x0r
23/05/02 @ 22:30
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I'm not a fan of fighters, but I bought SSB:M earlier today and I have to say it's brilliant. Nothing will prepare you for some bits which'll probably make you giggle like a schoolgirl while filling your mind with nostalgia. The Starfox levels on the Adventure mode are so very, very special...

Only complaint is that getting into the control system takes a while, especially since the training video seems to whizz by so quickly.

Hats of to HAL Laboratory for such a fine game, and thanks to them for adding a 60Hz mode and making the end credits a really fun experience.
mook
24/05/02 @ 08:00
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I think the americans were here overnight... left a nasty stench.
Nemesis
24/05/02 @ 11:24
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So, anyone picked this up today? Any comments?
Stackler
24/05/02 @ 11:27
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if you get it from TRU you get a free memory card with it. I expect it will be a shiter of a memory card but its free non the less.
eviltobz
24/05/02 @ 12:28
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I've got a copy in my car, waiting desperately for work to finish so I can go and play it. And today just happens to be the start of the estimating process for a huge fixed-price development project, so its probably going to be a late one :...(
Blerk
24/05/02 @ 12:37
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me n m8s r having a blast right now

And you're still typing? How many arms have you got? :-)
Nemesis
24/05/02 @ 12:45
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Wahoo I got paid, so I'll of to get it 2nite!
Alastair
24/05/02 @ 12:46
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There was a demo running in GAME in Slough.
Didn't play myself, but the spotty oik said it was 'Awesome' or something.
st3ph3n
24/05/02 @ 12:54
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Amazon delivery yet to show up. Only 2 visits left by the Postman. Not good. Not good at all.
Stackler
24/05/02 @ 15:04
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Just back from TRU and they even dug out a purple mad catz mem card for me to match the one i bought at launch. well after half an hours play (in single player) its quite addictive and bonkers to play. Looking forward to getting the mates round with a few beers. Oh BTW you soon forget its cartoony graphics cos to are too busy beating the shit out of someone.
Stackler
24/05/02 @ 15:21
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i dont see how any game can score 10 out of 10 anyway because no game is perfect.
AnotherMartin
24/05/02 @ 15:40
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"i dont see how any game can score 10 out of 10 anyway because no game is perfect"

maybe they employ the Spinal Tap method of scoring?
st3ph3n
24/05/02 @ 16:08
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It's 17:16, I'm still at work. The alst postal visit of the day has been and there was no Amazon package in it.

There Next Day delivery is never next day for me.

BAR STEWARDS
terminalterror
24/05/02 @ 16:34
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What is the point of a scale out od 10 if you can never use 10 out of 10, otherwise it would a score out of 9


gizmo: with a massive picture of mario on the front or some WWF freak.


WWE get with the times
FWB
24/05/02 @ 16:55
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personally i dont see how melee got 10/10, but then again i dont see how rallisport got 10/10

1) When you read a review your are reading someone's opinion. Your best bet is to read a variety of reports on a game from different sites.

2) I assume 10/10 means it is a good game. It doesn't mean you can judge it next to others of a different genre, but it stands by itself; a nice well rounded package.

I played the N64 version and it was entertaining, although rather MOR. I am really trying to decide what GC package I'm going to go for, so does anyone have any suggestions on places to go for deals. I'd like the console, two pads and 2-3 games (Tony Hawks and Super Monkey Ball are musts. I'm going to be buying it mainly for multi-player aspects). Is there anyone doing such a package that really is "cheap", or should I be going to different places and getting everything seperately?

terminalterror
24/05/02 @ 17:09
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some steroid-taking panda

LOL, but there really isn't that great a distinction between steroid taking pandas and wrestlers
Nemesis
24/05/02 @ 19:31
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FWB, the best bet is to shop around!

Have a list of "must-have" games and see if you can get a bundle that incorporates most of this. Check out Amazon, Toys R Us, GAME, Play etc. But don't forget people like WH Smiths, who stock the GC as well.

If you have stuff to trade, GAME may be your place to go if you can't be ar$ed selling stuff privately.
Sucram
24/05/02 @ 22:23
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5.5/10
http://www.epigamer.com/article.php?a=85

Skeeve
25/05/02 @ 09:30
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"I'd like the console, two pads and 2-3 games (Tony Hawks and Super Monkey Ball are musts. I'm going to be buying it mainly for multi-player aspects). Is there anyone doing such a package that really is "cheap", or should I be going to different places and getting everything seperately?"

The pack I got from comet was the system, 3 games, an extra controller and a memory card and that was about £240.
Skeeve
25/05/02 @ 09:39
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"5.5/10
http://www.epigamer.com/article.php?a=85"

That review appears to have decided not to like the game and then scored accordingly e.g. graphics 5, people may not like the game but it clearly looks well above average.
FWB
25/05/02 @ 09:54
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The pack I got from comet was the system, 3 games, an extra controller and a memory card and that was about £240.

Cheers. I'll check it out. I gues sthat sounds pretty cheap.


Stackler
25/05/02 @ 11:59
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FWB

Toys R Us are even cheaper than that.
Pirotic
25/05/02 @ 14:09
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Arrggg.. took my gamecube back, they didnt have any in stock so i took a refund, then everyother shop had sold out.. oh well, looks like i'll have to stick to xbox for a week.
Skeeve
26/05/02 @ 20:29
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"Sorry! Must've missed the sign on the main page saying 'No Yanks Allowed'. Won't happen again, I assure you!

Prick."

You don't need to sign your posts as your name is added just above them. ;-)
bystander
26/05/02 @ 21:07
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Just out of interest why are the GC screenshots so small?
peejay
23/04/04 @ 20:54
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to get giga bowser do adventure on normal or above and beat bowser without losing a single life... pretty easy
AtariMaxiToriyama
15/12/05 @ 01:07
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Not saying anything about the review itself, except that I think it should be an eight, and not a ten.



Take one point off because it's not as good as Super Smash Brothers, and take another point off because it's got no replay value. In fact, it RUINS the prospect of playing a fighting game for three hours everytime you even THINK about the game.


It's like this: Ever had a game that you played SO MUCH that it got to the point you were just bored of it so much that when you THOUGHT about it, your life became a dull, boring pit of ashes?
Well, that's how it is with Super Smash Brothers Melee. It just gets old-- now, Super Smash Brothers for the Nintendo 64.
The first time I played that game was four or so years ago, and to THIS DAY I can play it and enjoy playing it for at LEAST an hour before getting bored.
Then an hour or so later, I can pick up the controller and play it again.

It's not like that with Melee... I just-- can't play it, it's boring. You know why? It's because nothing FEELS right anymore, feeling is 80% of a game.

Example: In the original game, when you used Mario's tornado, anybody you hit was like "BANG BANG bANG! FWOOM!" WHAHAAA!

In Melee, try using the tornado-- it's like, "fpppp" AGH GOSH! HE ESCAPED AND hIT ME WITH A CoUNTER!

Hitting someone not only doesn't have the same powerful sound, but the feeling and strength is lost.
Hit someone with a smash and it -- it just doesn't feel as if you've really HURT them unless they have 500 damage. And even then, you have to use the right attacks.

It's just-- it doesn't feel NEAR as good as the last one, it lost all it's JUICE!
I could EASILY go right back to the first game and forget I ever bought Melee-- can't believe this..... not enough trophies either....
rodpad
17/03/06 @ 02:32
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Hmm...

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