Soldier Of Fortune II : Double Helix Comments by Gestalt

I'm beside myself. Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh. Please don't try and make C3P0 funny that way, it doesn't work.

Anyhow, to throw some fireworks in here, Doom3 is nothing more than an engine/tech demo at the moment, so any comments based on what you expect it to be are probably conjecture at best.

C3PO's falling apart jokes were pretty lame
I thought they were funny in the groaning sort of way, far superior to the crappy slapstick of a certain Gungan. Jar-Jar's antics during the big battle between the Gungans and droids is what really annoyed me about Episode I , his fellow men being cut down in battle and he's behaving like Harold Lloyd!

UncleLou: Maybe it's because when you apply the same standards to video games as to books/movies etc., you couldn't play anything at all. Me, at least, I haven't seen games yet that come close to, let's say, Kafka for instance.
Some games are exceptions, like System Shock, Ico etc.

Well said. Games are an infant media, in the sense that videogaming has been around for what, 20-40 years, depending on what you choose to count as a proper videogame. Compare that to movies, or god forbid, literature, drama or architecture. But in that sense, games are also doing surprisingly well. As with movies, books etc. probably one in a hundred is an interesting cultural stepping stone on the path that pushed the state of the art.

Of course comparing gaming to linear stories is also difficult in the sense that while non-linear media (like games SHOULD be) are not as good storytelling vehicles, they are able to provide HUGE aesthetical experiences. Like Miyamoto said when I interviewed him: "If you want to tell a good story, go make a movie or write a book! If you want to give the player a toolbox to explore his feelings, make a game", or something in that sense (I can't dig the tape out of the attic).

But yes, most of games can't be compared to books and movies in the sense of portraying morals, the human condition or anything that Eastern European or Russian literature excels in. But then again, with games like Ico, System Shock, Deus Ex, Planescape: Torment, etc. showing the way forward, we can see that it is possible to make deeply involving, intelligent and also throughly enjoyable games.

Gestalt: It's not really an FPS at all by the sounds of things (except in the loosest sense, ie it's first person and you can shoot stuff), and it seems a bit daft to call it Doom. Doom (to me) means gunning down hordes of demons. Doom III is starting to look more like Resident Evil in real-time.

Well, as I said, I have only Spectors comments (and the video, didn't get to play it at E3, although some did) to lean on. I believe that Doom 3 might be a fusion of the most important elements in the first one: the lingering fear when you hear the gurgling sound of imps everywhere, the adrenaline when you let fly with the chaingun, the claustrophobia when you negotiate dark mazes (remember the one on the second level (or third?) where you get the bag full of ammo from behind the secret door, illuminated by the strobe! scary!).

I do not believe it will become a puzzle game where you will constantly fight the illogical game design and the slow controls (although they do remind me quite nicely of a nightmare, where you are never able to move quite as fast enough as you should, which is the kind of I used to have nearly every night...) -- more likely Doom will try to really surprise the gamers by bending the conventions of the FPS (like the monsters coming through walls, railings etc.) and playing with the feeling of insecurity, fear, helplessness etc. so strongly present in Alien vs Predator 1 and pretty much nowhere else after that.

But we'll just have to see what happens. As everyone said, it's quite too early to dismiss or expect too much from that project. But look at that hype! Game of the show! Please... Why didn't Zelda get it? That's a game that pushes the state of the art in graphical portrayal of things. As SOF2 shows, we still have a long way to go to achieve photorealism, so maybe we ought to look elsewhere for involving and emotional graphics.

The whole definition of FPS is of course problematic. Maybe Eurogamer could be a pioneer in changing the way we speak about game genres, which currently seem to be based on mostly where the viewpoint is. That's not exactly what genre means in all other media.

Whizzo, you and me both. I think it's a major cop-out in the last 3 movies, that any battle has to have comedy running though it. I dunno, it's almost as if Lucas doesn't want to show the fighting as being nasty, like he's trying to distract you from what's actually going on, as if to say "Oh, this is nasty, but hold on, there's a Gungan juggling so that's ok then"

Keep it like Episode 5 say I. Having Gungans, Ewoks and C3PO running around doing poor jokes is just not really funny.

What really scares me about EP3 is that it has potential to be a dark, faschinating story about human ambitions destroying lives, the struggle for power and corruption; but probably Lucas will just have Jar-Jar bungling on the screen all the time. "Ani, dont become Darth Vaader, mesa no like". Yeah. Here we go...

It's a sad state of affairs.

Comments I hear about Episode 2 are "It wasn't as bad as Episode 1".

I think it fair to say Ewan steals the film, but that's partly because no-one else seems overly interested.

It's such an opportunity lost TBH the more I think about it. Take a look at IV for example. Arms getting cut off and Solo blasting Greedo into next week. Then they go back and mess around with that; when it was a perfectly good scene. The bit with Jabba added in, why? We're clever people, we know he's a wanted man, it doesn't add anything to the film.

I'll be happy as long as Natalie Portman features - in lots of tight outfits.

I particularly liked the white one.

*runs to the bathroom*

"Ani, dont become Darth Vaader, mesa no like".
"Aaaarrgghh I've had enough! My name is ANAKIN not bloody Annie, that's a girls name! Stuff this I'm going off to throw myself in a volcano and become an evil bastard in black leathers and... and have the voice of a really famous black american actor!"

Errol aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaye. We've had that discussion already I believe ;-)

Count your lucky stars Darth got dubbed people, otherwise he could've had a Devonshire accent. Can you imagine.......

I havent seen Ep2 yet (my grilfriend refuses to go! Can you believe she hasnt even seen the originals?! Not for lack of trying on my part though!)

I want to go and see it, but I dont expect to really come out thinking much of it- much like episode 1.

But Natalie Portman... mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

"Count your lucky stars Darth got dubbed people, otherwise he could've had a Devonshire accent. Can you imagine......."

Not sure how truthful this is (came off Dark Horizons I think), but the Green Cross Code Man was reportedly on TV the other week saying he will be in Ep3 & has started getting into training for the part.

getting into training for the part

eh??? Let me see, his face is entirely masked, his voice is done by someone else, his entire body is draped in shapeless black cloth... What does he need to train for?

I guess Lucas doesn't want the young Darth hobbling around on a zimmer, so Prowse needs to beef up a bit & be able swing the ol' lightsaber around without giving himself a hernia.

Making sure people can cross the sets safely without getting knocked down by mad camera drivers?

What I'm waiting to hear is when Anakin/Vader has finished killing all the Jedi, to turn around and in his James Earl Jones electronicy voice say:

" *breathing effect* Dark side ownage!"

LMAO.

He'll probably say something funny and completely fecking ruin the moment.

He probably says "I like fixing things".

Or 'Yipee'

"Jar-Jar's antics during the big battle between the Gungans and droids is what really annoyed me about Episode I"

Yeah, that's the bit that pissed me off the most as well, though there was plenty more where that came from. ;) Pretty much every time Jar Jar opened his mouth, the dull plot, dialogue and acting, plodding pace, Anakin's little "yippee!" exclamations... Horrible.

Nemesis: "Count your lucky stars Darth got dubbed people, otherwise he could've had a Devonshire accent. Can you imagine....... "

They used to call him "Darth Farmer" on the set of ep 4-6.

"Join I orr doie luuke"
"Give yurrself tu the daark soide luke, oh and gerrus a point a zider in wile yur attit, therz a good laad."

I'll take a combine harvester over a Tie fighter any day

They used to call him "Darth Farmer" on the set of ep 4-6

lol.

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