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WWE Smackdown Vs Raw 2007 Review

Xbox 360 Review by Liam Kavanagh

16 November, 2006

Chris Benoit is the best technical wrestler alive today. Stone Cold was better than the Rock. And the Big Show will kick Hogan's wrinkly old arse at Wrestlemania 23.

The amount you are either shaking or nodding your head directly relates to how relevant this review is to you. Because, let's face it, people who don't like wrestling don't play wrestling games. While this is true of most sport genres, even people who don't like football will have some idea of the rules should they find themselves in front of a copy of Pro Evo. The rules of wrestling are much harder to figure out. And I'm not talking about ones like "throwing a 350 pound guy around the ring is child's play compared to the extreme exertion required to climb a ladder". The sort of silly but fun rules that make perfect sense to a fan, but will just cause others to say, "he's been hit in the head with a sledgehammer! Why isn't he dead?"

Unfortunately for wrestling fans, they don't seem to quite know what they want in a wrestling game. Look at message boards for this [actually, don't, if you value your sanity - Ed], the latest in THQ's long running Smackdown series, and you'll see complaints along the line's of: "wot der's no legend cage in dis one? this sux the game is going downhill im not getting is dis yer!" And on the other hand, you have the fans who actually do care about the gameplay complaining that no wrestling game will ever be as good as No Mercy so THQ shouldn't even bother. So who do they try and please? The fan that wants good gameplay, or the (seemingly more numerous) fans that just want every type of match and option possible.

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Their solution has been to create two series and evolve them along those lines... the Smackdown series on the PlayStation has more and more options added to it every year, and Day of Reckoning series on the GameCube concentrated on turning itself into a No Mercy beater. Unfortunately, with the GameCube all but dead, we are left with just Smackdown, now also on the Xbox 360. Who has Yuke's tried to please here?

The first thing to note is the range of options. It really is staggering. You can play almost any type of match conceivable, including the Elimination Chamber and the new-for-this-year Money In The Bank match (essentially a ladder match for six people). Most matches can be tweaked from the norm (i.e. whether you can pin or not in a cage match), and the depth means you'll spend ages just trying all the different permutations.

The roster is also impressively large. People will complain about some surprising omissions (such as the super umpy flippy London & Kendrick - the WWE Tag Team Champions, as well as all the Spirit Squad), but it's still far bigger than the DOR series. There's also a healthy selection of legends for people who stopped watching wrestling five years ago (Rock, Austin, as well as Mankind, Cactus Jack and Dude Love which, combined with the regular Mick in the standard roster, means that you can have a Foley Four Way and annoy your friends by using that pun over and over again); there even a health selection if you stopped watching ten years ago (Bret Hart), or longer (Hogan, Piper, and some interesting new legends like "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes). The story mode is also pretty good. The superstars all provide voiceovers, and the different scenarios are all WWE-believable. All in all, if we're talking about people to play as and things to do with them, you are well served.

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Online is pretty good too. There's some minor slowdown when you have lots of people fighting, but there's a good range of match types available, and you can be a sneaky bugger too. I was playing a Triple Threat match when the ref got knocked down. I immediately ran outside, picked up a chair, ran in the ring and blatted one of my opponents with it. I then dropped the chair. The other guy picked it up, just at the point the ref was waking up. He hit me with the chair, got disqualified, and I won the match. Very WWE. I should also mention that there's a good range of achievements, if that's your bag. (I haven't got most of them, but that's because I suck, obviously.)

As for the core gameplay itself... well, they've certainly tried this year. The grapple system has been changed so that it's all on the analogue stick. This isn't quite the representation of human movement that Tiger Woods and Fight Night offer, but it does allow for snappier matches. Quick flicks do light grapples, while holding down RB combined with the stick makes your wrestler perform stronger, but slower and more easily countered moves. The ability to actually use parts of the scenery in the match is also very welcome. Drag your opponent to the steps outside the ring and you can smack their head against them. Drag them to the turnbuckle and you'll mount them and start doing the 10-punch thing that Hogan used to do so well. It all helps to make you feel move involved, and less like you are just watching pre-set animations run through their course.

That problem does still exist to a certain degree though. Getting Rey Mysterio to do his 619 and West Coast Pop moves in the DOR series involves you having to actually knock your opponent onto the ropes with a punch or kick, run at them and time your special successfully, and then get on the apron and jump on top of them. To do the same move in SvsR you have to get a special and then press LB. Which you prefer will come down to how much control you prefer to have, but despite a lot of improvements in this area SvsR can still sometimes feel like watching, rather than playing.

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The controls also still feel a bit spongy. If your partner is getting pinned and you run in to break it up, your opponent responds to getting kicked by just letting go of your partner and standing up. There's a lack of contact that pervades throughout. If two wrestlers are in the middle of an animation, it's impossible to stop it. While it's true that wrestlers in real life seem very willing to let other guys in the ring go through their routines without interruption, it's also true that it does sometimes happen. You can hit RVD with a chair as he's doing a frog splash in DOR, so why can't you here?

The entrances are a good example of what's wrong with the series. They look fantastic. Mr Kennedy saunters in, grabs the mike, and announces himself. Pick HBK and Triple H as a tag team and they'll come out to their DX music. They're amazing. And you'll only watch them a handful of times before you'll skip them in order to get to the match. The amount of effort is impressive, but misplaced, which applies to the series as a whole. I would love for Yuke's to do the same thing that I've always wanted EA and Konami to do - combine their best efforts. DOR is like Pro Evo - the gameplay is the most important thing, but there's an almost arrogant attitude to the trimmings. They may be less important, but that doesn't mean they have no importance at all. Smackdown vs RAW is the wrestling FIFA - drowning in customisable settings, but the gameplay isn't always completely there. However, like FIFA, SvsR has made some admirable steps this year. Let's hope next year, when there isn't a PS2 version to use as a lowest common denominator format, Yuke's will let rip and show us what the next-gen can really do.

7/10

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morriss
16/11/06 @ 08:43
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Tiger Woods?

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Huxley
16/11/06 @ 08:47
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I suppose this is very much a game for the die hard wrestling fans (of which I'm not one).

A quick scan the line "You can hit RVD with a chair as he's doing a frog splash in DOR, so why can't you here?" sounds more complicated that some of the code I'm going to be writing today.
petebritish
16/11/06 @ 08:51
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Good review. If they could just improve the game engine,this would be an all time classic. As you say theres always next year...

On your opening statement Kurt Angle when fully fit blows away Beniot, the Rock could lay the smacketh down on the Rattlesnake. Finally Big Show to beat the Legend Hogan? you must be on the same wacky backy as RVD. if you think that will happen.

What you gonna do when Hogan Runs wild on YOU!!!
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repairmanjack
16/11/06 @ 08:52
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I have a feeling that lots of people who don't watch wrestling actually enjoy these games.
Hog-lumps
16/11/06 @ 08:57
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donits?
Hog-lumps
16/11/06 @ 09:03
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I think we can safely say RFOM is not the killer app people made it out to be, but it's still a very solid shooter, 8/10 at Eurogamer?

Why are you talking about RFOM you silly man? wrong thread!
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Steroyd
16/11/06 @ 09:08
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tut tut judging a game review scores again and just to go off topic even more RFOM got an average of 90% so far on gamerankings.

I tend to enjoy wrestling games and not know squat of wrestling but the wrestlers feel to heavy to move about so I havn't touched a wrestling game in years.
smoothpete
16/11/06 @ 09:10
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I so hope this goes the was of the infamous WWE comments thread.

Donits ahoy!
TardKommando
16/11/06 @ 09:11
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Pedant mode on:

there even a health selection...

Perhaps should have been "there's even a healthy selection....

Good review, will pass on this year's edition on the basis of that.

And Cena does suck.

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JayPee
16/11/06 @ 09:12
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FFS. What possible link does this have with either RFOM or Gears?

Different reviewer, different genre and different platform for the latter.

Please refrain ESM.

I played the demo of this and got my ass handed to me - I have no idea how to play wrestling games. But then I have no wish to either, the whole thingisn't my cup of tea really.
Hog-lumps
16/11/06 @ 09:29
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What's love got to do, got to do with it?
thefilthandthefury
16/11/06 @ 09:31
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Oof, bit of a low score in my eyes. I'd definitely give this a 9. It's my favourite game of the moment along with Gears (yes, it's better than FEAR and CoD3)
nickthegun
16/11/06 @ 09:32
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What about the load times? They were terrible even when the demo was being loaded off the HD and the less said about the PSP version, the better. Its sort of staggering that it has 3 load sections before you can play a match.

Plus.......

ITS STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!
weaselrat
16/11/06 @ 09:37
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I took this back. Quite a let down and not worth 45. I'll pick it up elsewhere in a month or two for half the notes. Anywho that's my view but my mate loves it. For other men in lycra check out the new spidey 3 trailer at http://www.ifilm.com/presents/spiderman3. This film is goin to rock. Also the new Superman returns demo on marketplace has potential if you watch the end video when you've finished it. Totally irrelevant like I said.

LOAD TIMES ON SMACKDOWN ARE STILL POOR.
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El_MUERkO
16/11/06 @ 09:38
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Chris Benoit makes other fighters look good, hes amasing and his fights versus The Rock and Stone Cold were mega, I used to lie in bed hungover and watch them on Sky before Football Focus, the heady days of Smackdown 2, multitap fun!
peterfll
16/11/06 @ 09:48
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Who needs a heart when a heart can be broken?
Arwin
16/11/06 @ 09:48
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Don't bet on them not doing a PS2 version next year. There will still be plenty of those around and they can develop a PS2 version fairly easily together with a PSP version. Heck they can even share some assets with the Wii version.
Steroyd
16/11/06 @ 09:50
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That Spiderman trailer was sexual. o_O
weaselrat
16/11/06 @ 10:02
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Told you!!!!
Pooley
16/11/06 @ 10:13
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That Spiderman trailer is good. Is he an unlockable in this WWE game then?

;-)
weaselrat
16/11/06 @ 10:34
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Should be, he would kick ass
Darren
16/11/06 @ 10:42
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Fair review I guess but I must confess to really enjoying this game, particularly as it's the first GOOD WWE game on the Xbox platform. It still has the same old flaws that the wonderful PS2 games had like clipping and dodgy A.I. but it retains its playability and looks absolutely fantastic visually. I also like the Stamina system and new grappling system plus there's lots of modes and wrestlers to choose from plus a great CAW mode too. Shame there's no support for custom soundtracks ingame but this is a solid, fun wrestling game and stands miles above dross like WWE Raw 2 and Wrestlemania XXI on the Xbox.
MrFlintBlackman
16/11/06 @ 10:59
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*Waits for the wrestling stereo-types insults about men in tights and fats blokes and it's all fake you know crap to come*

Nice game I enjoyed it, shame though it's a shiny port. Xbox 360 can do miles better with a game like this.
nickthegun
16/11/06 @ 11:02
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Shame there's no support for custom soundtracks ingame

O RLY? Is this the first game on the 360 that you just cant start the media player whenever you want to?
Steroyd
16/11/06 @ 11:07
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That Spiderman trailer is good. Is he an unlockable in this WWE game then?

Well Spiderman did start out as a wrestler so technically he should be in WWE.

Just need to get past the liscensing that's all. :D
Darren
16/11/06 @ 11:27
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@Nickthegun - Of course you can use custom soundtracks but you cannot use them for custom entrances which was the point I was making. It's something that both WWE Raw 1/2 and Wrestlemania XXI had on the Xbox though.
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16/11/06 @ 11:30
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Oh right, I see. Maye they just overlooked it as they thought the media player would do. Can see how thats annoying.

bloodflowers
16/11/06 @ 12:50
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In the demo it all felt a bit disconnected and hopeless. Get knocked over. Hammer A button repeatedly to recover - but actually achieve nothing. Get leg dropped, remain on mat hammering A button. Eventually stand up, land 3 punches that don't do anything, find 4th is reversed, fall down on mat, hammer A button.

Later.. Order new joypad due to broken A button. Also very surprised London and Kendricks aren't in it, they're two of the only reasons left to watch the show.
Pastici
16/11/06 @ 14:49
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Haven't played the 360 version but I wasn't impressed with the PS2 version, the whole "sim" angle is taking the fun out of it :(, for me anyway. I'll stick to "Here Comes the Pain".
ali-uk
16/11/06 @ 15:31
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I actually agree almost fully with this review and the score given. It simply felt like 06 with a graphical touch up and some newer additions, so it rings true with the 'Fifa of wrestling games' statement. Oh and the controls were kinda annoying this time around too; why do they keep fiddling? I still think DOR2 is the better game, and Smackdown's never actually touched on that (although SD!2 is still fun to this day) - was it a different team developing it? I'm amazed they managed to capture the look of EVERY wrestler so well in DOR2 yet they can't do it when they're actually scanning in the superstars this year. It's a shame my Gamecube's packed in and emulators aren't up to scratch yet.

But yeah fun game for a few hours. I think I'll be playing Project 8 more.
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JayeM
17/11/06 @ 05:33
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Day of Reckoning really was great.
LiamK
17/11/06 @ 11:29
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My housemates and I would play tag-team DOR for hours, often until 2 or 3 in the morning. Since I have lived with non-parent type people, the only games that have had as much multiplayer fun as DOR (and DOR2) are Pro Evo and Mario Kart. As I said in the review, if only there was some way of somehow cramming the DOR grappling engine into SvsR.

(Or at least, getting Carlito's backcracker in DOR2. And Finley. Because he'd get to fight, and he loves doing that.)
CordableTuna
17/11/06 @ 13:58
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Next year they should team up with Team Ninja and release WWE Smackdown Vs Raw-X, where you pose, buy bikinis, butt fight and mud wrestle. They could reuse the independent tit bounce engine too.

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