Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader Comments by Tom Bramwell

The thing is, they have given some generally popular games, less good scores. By that, people automatically think that EG is biased, when in fact, they might have a diffrent view on this. Xbox fanboys should be HAPPY that I'm not a Xbox reviewer on EG...I show no mercy towards games I don't like, I have for instance given Wreckless 2/10 at the site I write.

Sure, they have given some games for GC, scores that I find it hard to understand, but you don't see me go around crying about it. Why...well it MIGHT have to do with something that I know that we can't all agree on what certain games are like. So some games I like have gotten scores I don't agree on, I don't really mind, I know what I think of the games...then what other people think doesn't really matter to me unless I'm going to buy a specific game.

We all have diffrent values, some people consider Halo to be the greatest game ever, I want to have them comitted. I think that NHL Hitz is one of the best game on the Xbox, some people want me comitted. Get off it, you don't have to validate your purchase by attacking people with diffent opinions.

Skal, while I agree with most of what you say, it's slightly different if I say I like this game to EG saying they like it.

Reviews are meant to give an objective view on a game so that readers can make an informed purchasing decision.

"eurogamer gives xbox halo a 8/10"

Oh god, here we go again. STOP FIXATING ON THE SCORES. The two different games in two different genres were reviewed by two different reviewers on two different consoles. All the relative scores mean is that Tom liked Rogue Leader more than I liked Halo. Read the review and make up your own mind instead of skipping straight to the score and assuming that it has some kind of mystical significance. It doesn't. It's just there as a rough pointer as to what the reviewer thought of the game.


"They can't be biased towards EVERYBODY"

Of course we can. :)

"Reviews are meant to give an objective view on a game so that readers can make an informed purchasing decision"

And I'd like to think that our reviews do that, as long as you don't just skip straight to the score at the end. ;)

"as long as you don't just skip straight to the score at the end" - or fixate on them, I imagine ;o)

STOP FIXATING ON THE SCORES

I still think you should mark out of two or three.
* Buy It!
* Don't Buy It!
and possibly
* Buy-It-If-You-Like-This-Kind-Of-Thing

As much as I like a site and/or it's writers I would never buy a game based on one review. One of the best things about the www is the ability to get various opinions in a short amount of time

Well, a reviewer can only say what he/she thinks of the game, a reader should be aware of this when reading a review. We all have very diffrent tastes, and noone can please everyone. I suggest that people who need to buy a game should read multiple reviews, if they see a pattern of similar reviews, that might be a good indication.

There are always people who are diffrent, I get alot of buff because of my disliking of some Xbox games, and a few days ago I saw someone that gave Shadowman 2 90/100.

Best Star Wars game ever: TIE Fighter. Recently dug it out again and fuffed about with Win2k until I got it to work.

Jesus Christ is it harder than I remember.

I've played Rogue Leader for a good few hours round a mate's house (NTSC version). While I was generally unimpressed by the gameplay, everyone else there was lapping it up. So, if you haven't been spoiled by TIE Fighter, you'll probably love it.

Toby - I have to agree with your choice of Tie Fighter. As I remember, it was VERY hard, but extremely satisfying. Esp. when ordering Darth himself around.

Still, I Lurve Rogue Leader ;o)

Best Star Wars game ever: TIE Fighter. Recently dug it out again and fuffed about with Win2k until I got it to work.

Tie Fighter was great. I really loved how they managed to get rid of that "bad guy" label, you really where fighting on the RIGHT side of the conflict, just like you did in X-Wing. Both those games are some of the best for PC, I'd still play X-Wing if I can get my soundcard to feed me some sound, and the challenge is just...overwhelming at times.

Course they are biased. Biased towards Starwars Games that'll let you play one of the best movies ever released!
If you don't like the scores/reviews, go buy an official Xbox or PS2 mag where they are biased towards their own platform...
Or better yet, go read a different website, and leave these boards free for the people who want to discuss the actual games rather than bashing platforms.

aye that would b good.

TRY b4 u buy.
Stear Clear (independance day/akira styl33)
GET it.

thats all u need :)

/me goes back to sleep.

seriously thought, i dont think ive read a review on here that wasnt informative, even if i didnt agree with the score.

and usually well written to, except when Tom get's let loose and Gestalt can't proof read.

Hey, what am I talking about, I failed Higher english and have the spelling and grammar knowledge of a foreign national.

Er... not really.
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."

If any1 lives in / near london, and if any1s mad enuff....

The Imax cinema is doing a Star Wars back to back session including Attack of the clones on June 1st.

cost is about 37quid i think.

Tis gonna be hard work sitting there, must be a good 12 hours of movie.

Tis gonna be hard work sitting there, must be a good 12 hours of movie.
I saw the original trilogy back to back in the cinema back in the '80s that was enough of a bum numbing experience. 5 movies might be a bit too much, especially as Episode II is 2 hours 22 minutes apparently.

The day that Alien 4 went up at the movies in Sweden, I warmed up with watching all the three first ones back to back, then went out 15 mins before the 4th one started and went down to the cinema to watch the last one. Classy.

Oh yes!!! Chinese Eat Rice is back! Long time no see, fella!!

Don't get your hopes up for the IMAX thinking you'll get a huge screen, as when showing 35mm film (all normal films), it only takes up about 1/3 of the height and 1/2 of the width of the screen, still big, but nowhere near as big as a proper IMAX film. Thrust me, I saw Terminator when they had a classic films season of films late at night

Skal - Is classy Swedish for geeky? :)
40 Geek-Points, by the way. Congratulations.

"Well, I'm the guy who didn't even see episode 1 yet."

Save yourself while you still can! Run from The Phantom Shitbox! Run!

Skal - Is classy Swedish for geeky? :)

It's the language of the world for being a promoter of fine culture.



40 Geek-Points, by the way. Congratulations.

Woho! Thanks!

"Woho! Thanks!"

No problem. Credit where credit's due, and you deserved every point.

Friends and I once went to see 4 ST films back to back, for like £4 or something. Nice to see a few blokes turn up in ST outfits, not a very English thing, but hey!

After 8 hours without a break you can imagine the pain!

Whilst pulling an all-nighter to get some pesky coursework in, my and my mate watched the entire 3rd season of Deep Space 9 in one go to keep us entertained.

"Looks like Hoths undergone a bit of global warming"

Not surprised with all those gas guzzling AT-ATs stomping around the place. Imagine the pollution those things must cause. ;)


"I'm the guy who didn't even see episode 1 yet"

To be honest you're not missing much.


"The day that Alien 4 went up at the movies in Sweden, I warmed up with watching all the three first ones back to back"

I did an Aliens all-nighter in London a few months back - all four movies back-to-back, with free Red Bull and Ben & Jerry's during the intermissions. Didn't end until about 7am. I tell you, there's nothing freakier than walking around central London at 7 o'clock on Sunday morning. It's like being in The Omega Man or something. ;)


"Friends and I once went to see 4 ST films back to back"

I can vaguely remember doing the original Star Wars trilogy back-to-back at a little local cinema when I was a kid. It must've been back in the mid 1980s when Return of the Jedi was still fairly new, so I was probably seven or eight at the time.

It's like being in The Omega Man or something. ;)

Same in every city, but I'd imagine that it's even more noticeable in London, Uddevalla really doesn't compare to be honest.

While I haven't seen the Omega man...I get the idea.

Watching 3 Alien Movies in a row, that’s nothing. I watched the entire Godfather series on DVD in one night and a lot of the extras. ha ha beat that!!

Simpsons S1, Futurama S1 and Family Guy S1. I have watched all those in a sitting each, I'll do Transformers S1 really soon.

Alien 4 was fine right up to the point the 'newborn' came along.

It sucked from that moment on. I even rate Alien 3 higher than the last one.

I 10 Q ;o)

I must admit I quite enjoyed Alien 3. I know I'm in the minority on that though. :)

I'm with you on that one (though most aren't).

But that fucking newborn... My mates just couldn't understand why I was so upset after seeing Alien 4...

Alien 3 is my number one choise in the series!

Me and a mate always wanted to do a babylon-a-thon. All five series, back to back, without sleep. But we were only students and couldn't afford that many drugs.

Enough drugs to actually watch Babylon 5 in the first place right?

->MetalVE

Shockning announcement of the day Chris, people have diffrent taste. I didn't see you bitch when Apache raved about this game...

"All five series, back to back, without sleep"

Er .. wouldn't that take about three days?

Enough drugs to actually watch Babylon 5 in the first place right?

Pah B5 is one of the best SF series ever made, although the fifth season was rather disappointing with Byron and his happy-clappy telepath pals.

Er .. wouldn't that take about three days?
Yeah about 82 hours I think, although longer if you weren't a wimp and watched the movies too..

I think it was series 3 or 4 (the shadow war stuff) that really stood out.

And that theme music! The hairs on my arms stood up every time it came on!

Star Trek NEVER did that for me ;o)

->GamecubeSucks

You just keep spitting into the wind don't you.

Well I watched ST:TMP Directors cut last night. Much much better IMO than the "luuurve" original.

The joys of DVD. They are putting out loads of superb stuff at the moment, which means I can ditch all the cr@p TV copies of films I have.

although the fifth season was rather disappointing with Byron

Byron was dead by the fifth series! =]

"I watched ST:TMP Directors cut last night"

Got that from the US a while back - great movie, but then I quite liked the original version as well, so what do I know. ;) Can't wait for the Wrath Of Khan Director's Cut. Mmm... All together now - "KHAAAAAN!"

KHAAAAAAAAB!

What, that wasn't right?

I did an all night Comic theme night at a cinema in Kings Cross in the mid/late 80's. Saw Akira there for the first time and swear I have never seen the same version again (this was before it came out on video over here). They also showed The Punisher, Captain America and some other bits I can't remember. My two lasting memories of the night are dragging my mum along (as I was to young to go alone)and having her really enjoy Akira (I was so proud) and the other was having the entire place erupt into cheering and applause when Captain America throw his shield for the first time.

We can live in hope ;-)

Now all we need is Hawk the Slayer......I mean, cmon, they released Beastmaster and Conan, that's the last one I need!

I feel a Spaced reference coming on......

Wrath of Khan. There's one AWFUL bit just after the fight and Khan pulls a bit of ship off of his crewmate. Can you say Polystyrene? So false it's laughable.

Almost as bad as Mr Miagi breaking the telegraph pole in Karate Kid 2. Classic stuff.

Oi Bilbo, Hawk the Slayers rubbish - not quite a quote, but it's early

Here's a link for SW @IMAX

http://www.bfi.org.uk/showing/imax/starwars.html