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Pro Evolution Soccer 4 Comments by Tom Bramwell

16 November, 2004

Football's coming home. But what's changed?

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petebritish
16/11/04 @ 09:07
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So when is this game out ? 19th or 26th.
Anyone know
krudster [mod]
16/11/04 @ 09:09
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19th
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16/11/04 @ 09:10
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well, I hope the date holds out for the 19th as I only just got rid of my preowned PS2 copy.
bionutz
16/11/04 @ 09:13
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What? There is a converter for Dual Shock for use on the PC? Could I have the link please?
lost_soul
16/11/04 @ 09:19
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Are you sure it's out on the 19th? Simply has the PC and Xbox versions down for the 26th.
Mugwum [staff]
16/11/04 @ 09:20
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Konami announced the 19th as the date for both PC and Xbox just last week, but nobody seems to believe them.
Blerk
16/11/04 @ 09:20
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What? There is a converter for Dual Shock for use on the PC? Could I have the link please?

Here's one. Can't comment on how good they are, I don't have one myself.
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Mugwum [staff]
16/11/04 @ 09:21
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Eighthours
16/11/04 @ 09:25
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The "your players don't make an effort to go for the ball" thing is easily negated by using the Super-cancel feature and controlling the man yourself. Slightly fiddly when you start doing it, but it does work. Still kinda annoying that Konami haven't quite sorted out the AI after 4 games, mind.

And since when did anyone play the 8-directional movement PES with analogue sticks?? Right analogue for manual passing, sure, but don't use the left one, for God's sake!!
Gruff
16/11/04 @ 09:49
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I was under the "hopefully misguided" impression that the xbox multiplayer was only one on one matches, like the PC.

Leagues ? please tell its so........ errrrrr Joe
jrolla
16/11/04 @ 09:55
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they announced the 19th, then the 26th and now people think its the 19th again. bloody annoying
Gruff
16/11/04 @ 09:57
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Yeah how do we know which day to go sick :-P
Dougs
16/11/04 @ 09:58
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According to the PESinsight forums, they have distribution problems in the UK, hence the reason its slipped a week to 26th (and the press release went out with the 19th on it, but should have been 26th). Rest of Europe seemed to be unaffected.....

Not sure I believe anyone at all though. I'll just wait for my package from Simply to drop through the door.....
markh
16/11/04 @ 10:20
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most places are saying the 26th now. although i got an e-mail form the place i ordered it from saying it would be dispatched on the 22nd. Figure that out..
praetorian
16/11/04 @ 10:27
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Do the goalies still fail to dive for the ball half the time when it's obvious the ball is a) reachable if they dive, and b) goalbound, as in the PS2 version? That was the biggest factor that spoiled my enjoyment of PES4.
trump
16/11/04 @ 11:27
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the crappy goalkeeping will be present i'm sure
seems like konami haven't really improved the most annoying parts of pes3 (and there were a lot)
and on top of that they tack on some crap online mode?
ffs, weak
Eighthours
16/11/04 @ 11:38
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Konami's PR say that it's out (Xbox) on the 26th now, and that the date was confirmed mere minutes after they sent out their "it's out on the 19th" press release.

Whoops!! :)
Sky Blue Sam
16/11/04 @ 12:04
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bionutz, I have the same converter that Blerk recommended, and it works brilliantly.
Kavvy
16/11/04 @ 12:39
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press X to continue? Pathetic.

Its about time they did a proper PC version. At least we can rely on The Wolf for some proper kits / adverts / stadiums / all the other stuff the Konami *should* be doing but can't be arsed because they *know* fans will do it for them.

Here's an idea, hows about they release the code, and then we can code a proper PC version for them without the PS2 contraints ;-)


jmctavish
16/11/04 @ 16:31
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I'm giving some serious thought to cancelling my preopreder of this and getting the xbox version and live instead. For all the money Konami have made from this series would it really have hurt them to make a proper PC version? I'm well pissed off about this news.
matrim83
16/11/04 @ 18:32
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Dumb question but here it goes:
Is it still only available on DVD?
KiLlerKnight
17/11/04 @ 10:19
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This is an English site honey.
And nobody is selling an original PES4 to you for 12 euros, we are not the salvation army LOL.

And now the translation in Dutch LOL:

Dit is een Engelse site schatje. En niemand gaat je een originele PES4 voor 12 euro verkopen. We zijn niet het leger des heils.
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System_Shock
17/11/04 @ 13:42
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Zoran,

I will explain the problem if you like, maybe you can then apologise to the reviewer for what most of us will have found to be a very useful bit of info (certainly makes me want the xbox version).

Whatsmyip.com will tell you the public ip of the external section of your ISP's network. Unfortunately as the review states these are days of NAT (network address translation) ip addresses, therefore my machine can send out a packet through the isp and when the relevant reply packet comes back the router will redirect.

The problem becomes that when my mate behind a NAT router wants to connect to me behind a NAT router from within PES4 he has to hit me on an external IP. Assume for simplicity that everyone on my street is on my isp and we all go through the same NAT router, when my mate types the ip from 'whatsmyip.com' he will hit my streets router, then where does it go? The answer is nowhere, there is no response as the port is not forwarded to my machine, so he can't connect.

My ISP provides 20 hours per month of public IP, which isn't really a lot considering Rome: Total War has the same implementation of Multiplayer.

So bascially although PES4 offers the online mode, it is essentially too big a pain in the bottom.
KiLlerKnight
18/11/04 @ 02:15
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IMO these sort of games play better on a big telly, certainly if playing with friends. Sitting around a monitor is really not comfy.
SingerenBsAs
18/11/04 @ 18:13
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I cant wait to try it out with my friends... we all have cable modem 1024 KBPS now... Then Ill tell u how it works. ;-)
KiLlerKnight
22/11/04 @ 07:20
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Sorry I have better things to do.
Aka
26/11/04 @ 00:41
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I ditched my PC pads for a PS2 dual shock along time ago and so should everyone! There's something funny about playing N64 roms on a PC with a PS2 pad. I was gutted when I couldn't get Fifa 04 (?) to work with my PS2 pad but Pro Evo 4 looks tobe so much better anyway. :)
kdjac
29/11/04 @ 09:46
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Umm in the host setup screen your IP appears on the bottom much like this screen
http://members.boards.ie/kdjac/pes44.JPG except not blurred out :)

Alt Tabbing works very well so you can set up , ALt tab out tell your mate your IP in IRC MSn etc: then play.
If you are client prepare to hate this game , its soooo laaaaaaggggyyyy its painful to play , 6 games vs mate he hosted 3 i hosted 3 , 4-1 1-0 6-0 when he hosted, 7-1 5-2 8-0 when i hosted.
Client presses pass 11 minutes later the player passes, slide tackles are hilarious tho , press to slide in 1st half and some time in 2nd player slides .

Seriously needs a patch m anyone on 56k forget about me and my ate have 1mb lines.

kdjac

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