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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Comments by Kristan Reed

24 March, 2006

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24/03/06 @ 17:42
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Oh us complete Sony fanboys can still play this game, just on a PC.

Mount n Blade actually has better riding parts than Oblivion, quite a missed opportunity in my opinion.
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24/03/06 @ 17:42
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with the stupid amount of possibilities this game presents, its incredible how well it executes most every one of them... I can only imagine gigantic gantt charts and uml models, oh the headaches.
Calgon
24/03/06 @ 17:44
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@Scientist: Christ! aren't we the little grammar natzi? ok you are quite right I did misspell a few things there like "humour" which you were so kind to point out and also "your" which you may have missed, forgive me sir!
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Scientist
24/03/06 @ 17:45
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"Just spent ages generating a character. That alone I could play and have fun with for hours. Then I started exploring the cave bit where you follow after the Emperor, then I stopped because my 5yrs old daughter was completely ruining the atmosphere."

Modern parenting in all its glory.
MrGrumpy.au
24/03/06 @ 17:52
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And it looks like the rating trolls have already entered the building, come on who gave it a 1/10?
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24/03/06 @ 17:53
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I'll come back and rate it after I've played it for more than 2 hours. Right now it feels like an 8 more than a 10 though.
statix101
24/03/06 @ 17:55
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Im sorry but single digit frame rates are not what 'Next Gen' consoles were supposed to be about.

potatoes
24/03/06 @ 17:57
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ok, i bought this... am i the only one who cant get passed those fucking rats right at the start... i really cant remember the last time i was this frustrated with a game...

get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back, get bitten, lurch back....

i MUST be doing something wrong surely?

right now this is scoring a 2 from me...
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24/03/06 @ 18:01
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Heh potatoes I think you should either equip a weapon or start fistfighting those rats.
JonFE
24/03/06 @ 18:08
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May I point out to the PTB that a 10/10 x360 review can generate as many comments as a 5/10 one ?

As for the game I'll probably buy it next week (has to wait for the next paycheck) even tho' RPG's and my free-for-games time don't see eye to eye :)
papalazarou
24/03/06 @ 18:16
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lol potatoes, equip a bloody weapon!!
zErOb_cOOl
24/03/06 @ 18:22
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I would have thought the framerate issues would have bee nconfined to the PC, due to the obviously more system-intensive operating system.

A 360 has to run a basic OS and, well, games, and that it.

I mean 3 x 3.2GHz processors and there's still a slow framerate? I know its hard to compare a console to a PC, and it entirely depends on the spec of the PC in question, but all I'm saying is I'm surprised.

It is early in the X360s life though, so its easily forgivable.
Bumbuliuz
24/03/06 @ 18:28
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Fantastic review and for once I agree with the score ;) 10/10 I have been lost in this game since thursday morning. I really LOVED Morrowind but Oblivion is even better, and that is a hard thing to do. On a side-note played 14 hours and havent even done the first quest after the first dungeon ;)
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Feanor
24/03/06 @ 18:32
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"It's superior to Morrowind in almost every way, but it's still far, far from a perfect game(which according to EG, is whats required for a 10)."

Comedy gold, ave. Back in your box, thanks.
tengu
24/03/06 @ 18:40
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This is pretty damn great from what I've played so far, even though I don't really know what the hell to do when my stats drop after contracting some of the 'illnesses' (Swamp sickness and helljoint or some names like that), my stats seem to have dropped and I have no clue how to restore them yet. Loved one instance where I got off the horse to fight a wolf and the horse kicked the wolf to death before I got near it. Gave me a good laugh :)

Having said that, the pop up and frame rates on the outside world bits are appalling at times, especially when you're on horseback, sometimes it slows down to a stop. Pretty annoying at times, but ah well.

Great game on the whole.
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Carpathian
24/03/06 @ 18:50
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Sigh. I've held off grabbing a 360 so far and now this has tipped the scales to a large degree. I won't be out tomorrow buying one but, when I do, this is being picked up with it.

On the 10/10 thing, as so many people seem confused, a little pointer.

A 6, for example could be thought of being for titles better than maybe 5.5 and worse than a 6.5. Therefore it's obvious a 10 covers 9.5 (or 95% if you will) upwards and still leaves plenty of scope for the odd mark taken off. It doesn't mean a perfect 10 marks.

It's a foible of marking with such a small scale, as I see it.

/climbs off podium.
Kiigan
24/03/06 @ 18:59
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The review said:

"By some freak of slider bar chance, we made ours look exactly like Prince, albeit with blue skin and a greater penchant for eyeliner. Obviously a sign of the times"

That's quite fitting, because I am as we speak playing Oblivion on PC with Prince's latest album ("3121" - available in all good record stores now) blaring in the background. It just make it all a bit more... well, funky.

Owwah!
Killerbee
24/03/06 @ 19:06
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I was really hoping to resist the charms of this one as I really don't have time to get immersed in another massive RPG, what with Star Ocean 3 and Tales of Symphonia still sitting unfinished on my pile of games to play, but a 10/10 means it'd be wrong not to. :/
potatoes
24/03/06 @ 19:07
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no, REALLY... i do have a weapon, but whenever i get hit i cant counter or block or move or anything, then i get hit again which perpetuates the cycle...

i am litterally dying every time i get hit once, because its just a matter of time before i die...

this really cant be right, i MUST be missing something somewhere otherwise everyone else would be complaining too...

the only reason i have got beyond the first rats is because every time i kill ANYTHING i save... that cant be the only way...
onyxbox
24/03/06 @ 19:24
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to 'weaselrat'

try holding the 'A' button down while the game fires up... this flushes any disk fragmentation that may have happened
effinwooly
24/03/06 @ 19:40
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wow GREAT game !!!! Makes me happy to own a 360 !!!!
The Bodybuilder
24/03/06 @ 19:44
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Wasn't a big fan of action-rpgs until i bought shenmue. Turned out to be my fav game of all time.

Wasn't a big fan of clancy-like tactical games (rainbow 6, ghost recon) until I bought GRAW. Turned out to be my fav 360 game so far.

Not a big fan of western rpg's (or any for that matter). But will I be foolish enough to pass over a game that got 10/10 from (of all people) EG?
EGBartonFink
24/03/06 @ 19:50
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You will not ... get thee to the shops.
statix101
24/03/06 @ 19:55
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4hrs in (PC version).....and im bored senseless.

Once you get over the 'wow' factor of the gfx, its just the standard dreary trudge through dungeons,talking, trading etc,etc,etc.

7/10.


tengu
24/03/06 @ 20:02
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That's RPGs for you I suppose :)
statix101
24/03/06 @ 20:12
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"That's RPGs for you I suppose :) "

Oh yeah i accept that, im not the biggest fan of them, but i wanted to see if my Pc could still cut it on a supposedly 'next gen' titile

Im running it at 1280x1024,2xAA,Bloom and most settings set to max (except shadows) and im getting between 30-40fps depending on location, which i gather is better than what the 360 does.

Quite happy with that, so still no need to get a 360.




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Calgon
24/03/06 @ 20:28
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Statix care to post your rig? Just out of interest...
petebritish
24/03/06 @ 20:43
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Great review Great game
Nough said
TheEnd
24/03/06 @ 20:43
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10/10 is excessive. There's too strong a sense of the game being cobbled together from a bunch of middleware. It's still a great game, but really, it's more an evolution of Morrowind than it is something unique. I'd give it an 8.5
deathgibbon
24/03/06 @ 20:52
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Fuckin hell!

This is one to get tomorrow!
bivith
24/03/06 @ 21:09
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"Im running it at 1280x1024,2xAA,Bloom and most settings set to max (except shadows) and im getting between 30-40fps depending on location, which i gather is better than what the 360 does. "

The 360 has 4xAA. Try that and see what your framerate is. Then compare the price of your PC with the 360
admir
24/03/06 @ 21:11
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will get it for the PC, no need to buy a x360 if you own a PC
Bezzy
24/03/06 @ 21:13
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Oblivion feels like the archetype of a game that so many people have wanted to make, but haven't had the wit, talent, time or resources.

Good fucking show Bethesda. 10+ years paid off.
statix101
24/03/06 @ 21:16
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"Statix care to post your rig? Just out of interest... "

P4 3Ghz
2.0GB Ram
Radeon X850XT PE

"The 360 has 4xAA. Try that and see what your framerate is. Then compare the price of your PC with the 360 "

I wasnt having a dig at the 360, i was simply saying that it was unessacary to spend £300 on a new console when my current PC is capable enough...

By the way 4xAA has minimal effect on the frame rate, 5-10% fps reduction, if anything my CPU is a weak spot.

Also, theres no way of knowing what settings the 360 is using for all the options i can tweak on the PC version, as there are lots of options for draw distance, details tc,etc,etc.....



Ak1ra
24/03/06 @ 21:25
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10? Well, guess this website isn't so much different from IGN or Gamespot. Sure the game is great, but 10? Is this the perfect game? Better than Zelda? Perfect with so many loadings? You guys really let me down on this review.
karstux
24/03/06 @ 21:48
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Man, I just hope the controls and interface survived the transition from Console to PC. I have yet to see a control scheme that works well for both worlds. Anyone with the PC version care to comment?

Other than that... damn luck that my copy isn't in the mail yet. I have an exam on monday, and surely not the willpower to abstain from the game 'till then...
EGBartonFink
24/03/06 @ 21:58
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@admir will get it for the PC, no need to buy a x360 if you own a PC
There is if you want to play it and don't have a PC that is capable of playing the damned thing. What a silly thing to say.
JediMasterMalik
24/03/06 @ 21:59
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The 360 and PC versions are practically identical so shut it :P
EGBartonFink
24/03/06 @ 22:01
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@Ak1ra - it's been said before on countless occasions that a 10 does not mean a perfect game, there is no such thing. It does however mean that the game really stands out and is a definate must have. GotY material and all that jazz.
EGBartonFink
24/03/06 @ 22:01
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The 360 and PC versions are practically identical so shut it :P

/sniff
amorpheus
24/03/06 @ 22:19
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no demo no play
too many times I've been scammed by blind-buy
let's wait to Gothic 3...
Hunam85
24/03/06 @ 22:35
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omg!!!
stoopidgreg
24/03/06 @ 23:13
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i'll keep it short:

bought the game today. been playing it ever since. fuxing amazing ^_^
The Bodybuilder
24/03/06 @ 23:41
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I must stay, I'm still not convinced.
All these elves and orcs really isn't my "thing".

And is thier an option for a 3rd person view? Like some of the pics show? Because I CAN'T STAND 1st person sword fighting.
Furbs
24/03/06 @ 23:47
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Just press the right stick in BodyBuilder. And if you hold it in you can change the level of zoom I think.
fatbb
24/03/06 @ 23:53
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Yes, you can play in third person view. I've been using third person view mostly for my first 3 hours in the game. The dungeon/sewer felt too claustrophobic in first person view.
Targeting fireballs in third person view is a bit difficult though so I've been switching between first/third person during fights. fantastic game though. I sense an all night gaming session in the works.

tengu
25/03/06 @ 00:10
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Bodybuilder, just to let you know, this plays like shit in third person(imo obviously, but trying any kind of combat was a nightmare in that view, plus I really hate the stiff way your character moves), you NEED to play in first person to really enjoy it. I'd say you should try it. I can't stand first personing most of the time myself, but this is well worth making the effort for.
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darkphoenix
25/03/06 @ 00:23
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hhhmmmm, a X360 for me, it shall be!
Stormflood_UK
25/03/06 @ 00:28
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Well... hmm... not enjoying it so far.

I may have to concede that these types of RPG are just not my thing. I've been doing my honest best to give Oblivion the benefit of the doubt, and the 10/10 got me heading down to Game after work - I even picked up the CE.

But I'll keep at it. And not just because I spent 50 frickin quid on the damn game. I will, once and for all, see if it is possible for me to enjoy more than 3 seconds of a western RPG, even if the hammy am-dram voice acting kills my will to live, and the disappointing combination of next-gen graphics with last-gen animation makes my eyes bleed.

I will not give up so easily godammit...

p.s. It's crashed on me twice whilst loading back after my death. That really doesn't help my tolerence....
miiiguel
25/03/06 @ 00:29
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The PC vs 360 "issue" is not a question for me. I couldn't stand to upgrade video card, then upgrade something else, then try lowering some detail, then figure out that somewhere near in the future must upgrade the whole damn machine..., just bought the damn 360 version and, here we go!!!

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