Killzone Comments by Kristan Reed

5, average then, doesnt sound very good, theres going to be some fan wars on here very soon.

/ooh and first, for the first time

that crap then? fantastic, saves me a couple of quid bothering even renting this.

5? Seriously? A five? Like, out of ten? You realise you just signed this sites death warrant? You know that they're gonna descend on you like a -

Uh-oh.

Here they come.


My day just got a whole lot more interesting...

i've only played the first level and a half and already it's major flaws are already shinning through. it looks pretty though.

Going by the demo, it is pretty rubbish alright. What utter spaz actually mentioned THIS and Halo in the same sentence in the first place?

/Spits on Killzone

5. Ouch. Thats gotta hurt.

What would it have got if there had never been Halo or Halo2 I wonder...

Oh well, at least the hype was quite good, And the screenshots look nice.

Who is going to be the first person to raise issue with the score?

/silence

/looks round

I've rarely been so nonplussed with a videogame. It's digital prozac.

'Halo Killer'

Heh.

Was quite looking forward to this.

To be fair to the developer, did they ever mention the 'other game'?

I remember reading an early feature in Edge and they ran a mile from putting it up against halo. I bet they shat thier pants when people started making the connection...

And if they did bring this uppon themselves, well. No sympathy from me.

So...er....not as good as Halo then?

(for once)

Gamespot gave this a 6 so I guess a lot of the Killzone fans are used to low scores. EG should be ok.

Oh and... yes.. Killzone is a bad game, amazing how people could pretend until the last minute that this game was going to rule.

It's just pure comedy looking at the enemy animation and AI compared to...well practically any other FPS game on any platform...

It's like a really bad PS1 shooter dressed up in PS2 clothing.

Peej

Half-Life 2 is the only Halo Killer!

and Halo is strong enough to stand by it's side!

I hope the DS makes the world bright again, Kruds. : )

Finishing the review copy and the game is good. Better than Halo? Wouldn't say, but I wouldn't give Halo's linear approach 'just go and shoot everythong' anything close to 9/10.

Anyway, let's compare it like this - Halo 2 is FIFA, Killzone is PES. You can't compare them but I know what I'm playing and what's nice for my little brother and showing off the graphic quality to outsiders.

Killzone always seemed dull for me regardless of hype. Nice review Krudster.

I was expecting a gameplay quirk regarding the name (like they promissed back when they only referred it's title, and that it was a FPS, suposely a Halo killer (this was a Sony rep words I believe)). The name just refered to the pixel perfect AI headshots then... Bah...

"Anyway, let's compare it like this - Halo 2 is FIFA, Killzone is PES. You can't compare them but I know what I'm playing and what's nice for my little brother and showing off the graphic quality to outsiders."

You must be joking really..... r u?

/wonders how people come to these conclusions

I fully believe this game will pick up a dogged fanbase determined to see through its dull repetition, but, bleh, people like all sorts of rubbish for all sorts of strange unfathomable reason. I'm not right, you're not wrong. But it isn't all that.

Having surfed a couple other gaming forums, it seems like the PS2 fanboys arn't going overboard trying to defend this game. I think most of them/us saw it coming.....

"EG peeps: do you think the score would be higher if it was released/reviewed a few months ago, i.e. pre-halo2, hl2 etc? Or would it need to be pre-riddick, pre-doom to start comparing better? "

I think had it come out shortly after Edge's rather large article on it, it would have got a better score.

It's just been superceded by so many games though, it'd be difficult to see WHY anyone would buy it tbh.

Peej

EG peeps: do you think the score would be higher if it was released/reviewed a few months ago, i.e. pre-halo2, hl2 etc? Or would it need to be pre-riddick, pre-doom to start comparing better?

yes pre doom it would have been very good indeed. ;)

Maybe a few years back it would have been a seven, maybe an eight given the multiplayer angle, but no game gets by being this repetitive. To be trying to wow us with this sort of stuff now is misguided.

bero, that's silly. I mean, I'd even go out and agree if you said Metroid Prime and Halo are different enough to warrant "no comparison", because one is a FPS, the other is an action platformer game in the FPS perspective.

But Killzone is in the league of Halo. It can be compared. Both are FPSs, the difference is that Halo is good, Killzone is not. And this is hardly opinion based either. Strip both games off content, and the gameplay is way more refined, detailded, and deep in halo (or halo 2 for that matter), than in killzone. Not to mention the control over the character.

And why can't we compare FIFA and PES? They are both footy games, why shouldn't we compare them? You make no sense dude :|

Well we didn't see that one coming, did we?

I was half interested until I saw the distinctly 'meh' E3 videos. Then I couldn't quite figure out what all the fuss was about.

/goes back to TimeSplitters 2

Finishing the review copy and the game is good. Better than Halo? Wouldn't say, but I wouldn't give Halo's linear approach 'just go and shoot everythong' anything close to 9/10.

Anyway, let's compare it like this - Halo 2 is FIFA, Killzone is PES. You can't compare them but I know what I'm playing and what's nice for my little brother and showing off the graphic quality to outsiders.

Are we being bearded? ;)

Well, the AI sounds better than Doom 3's.

I don't think either the developers or Sony ever mentioned Killzone and Halo in the same sentence unless asked by the press and as Milk says, they tried to distance themselves from any comparison.

I played the multiplayer beta and found it quite enjoyable, a lot slower pace than most FPS but there were problems with the framerate then. It seems they just haven't got to grips with that, or the AI it seems from what I have read.

I blame the press for building the game up so much, but then that is what they do isn't it. Now, what PS2 FPS should we be thinking is the new Halo beater now??

Having played both, I much prefer this to Halo, its grmier and tougher than Halo2. Over all I just prefer the look and feel of this to Halo2. Neither are fantastic games though. Id give Halo2 6/10 and this 7/10. Especially after playing HL2.

Black. Watch out for it.

Why can't I compare PES and FIFA (halo and Killzone)? Because You cannot compare games aimed at different audiences. PES is (in my opinion) aimed at footy lovers, and FIFA is aimed at 'sunday players'. Both are VERY good at what they do. Killzone is for war-freaks and Halo is for masses.

I guess most of the people comenting on Killzone haven't played it so it's not really worth defending it in the face of non existing arguments, but the repetitivnes is something the real war has really much of (Halo is also quite repetitive btw.). Halo is just easier on the eye because it is much more colofull, but take a trip to Bosnia or Irak and you'll see there are only two colours to war: grey and red. And in a heated firefight there's no possible way to aim your gun with pin-point precision. You just spray. Trust me.

So - Killzone does it for me as it's gritty, fast, frenetic and chaotic. I don't say everybody should like it. But you can't say it's bad and compare it to a walk through the dollhouse. Populated by strange aliens but the dollhouse nontheless.

Thats nice, soooooooo when are you putting up the xbox review of pro evo 4?

MCM

Black. Watch out for it.

If only they'd tell us something about it!

Hey Bero, what's the pay like over at Guerrilla Games? ;)

bero, games couldn't be compared then. Each game has it's target audience. But when games fall under a category, they can be compared. They can even be compared when they fall under different categories, but then, opinions are very relative.
As for what you said, FIFA is a cookie cut out game, with a number in front of it. It's a franchise. PES is a football game. I don't like football games, but I enjoy PES far more than FIFA.

And like I said, strip both games of grafics or animations (both sections where Halo comes clearly on top IMO), and Halo sole gameplay is still far superior to Killzone (this is a game afterall, and the most important thing in a game is gameplay). And yes, I played the game.

Bero - not meaning to be rude here or anything, but I really couldnīt give a damn if "real war is grey and red", or "in real war you just aim and spray" (which isnīt true, incidentally). If the game has SERIOUS framerate issues (and it does), utterly crap AI (which it does), looks boring (which it does), and is unfairly hard (which it is) - it is. not. a. good. game.

And Iīm pretty sure that Konami wont take to kindly to having PES compaired to Killzone, either...

I'd be curious to know how much bero, mr 22 posts in comments and none in the forums (hell, at least you took the trouble to register!) , has played Killzone himself seeing as it's not out yet...

The PES/FIFA comparison is... mind bogglingly disingenuous. You can call Halo a lot of thngs, but 'for the masses' because it's 'colourful'? Halo is a thoroughbred gamers' FPS. IF it was a football game it'd be PES with the FIFA licence. Just because it has high production values doesn't mean it's for 'Sunday Drivers'

I think Killzone's art direction is superb, and aesthetically at least is has a suitably war-torn, gritty feel to it. But it suffers technically, and gameplay wise it's positively shallow compared to Bungie's work

But hey - better than Fire Warrior and Mace Griffin eh?

I actually enjoyed the demo, nothing flash, linear as hell but I liked it, hey ho, I'll let my little brother get it and then borrow it.

Hey never mind this crap youve got a DS sitting there and you havent told us about it yet.
GET TO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To ralphwolfenstein: incidentaly, I write reviews and I'm finnishing the REVIEW copy (so playing in excess of 10 hours, tried all characters and most weapons and locations). I usually don't comment on forums here as I mostly agree with what the guys write but in this case I'm really annoyed with the 5/10 so I decided to comment.
And no, Halo isn't "thoroughbred gamers' " FPS. Let's continue the comparison with PES-FIFA. PES simulates football quite accurately and that's why it's played by footy lovers. The same is with Killzone, but not Halo which just screams 'see my special effects'. (in FIFA case that would be 'see the Beckham's hairdo').

/shoots bero in face with shotgun

Ok.. back to work everybody!

So as suspected it is indeed a very average shooter.
Meh! PS2 still has no decent shooter shocker ;)

Meh at this... Meh at Halo 2... Slowly caresses Half-Life 2... You're okay boy... No threat soon in any way shape or form ;o)

Bloody TimeSplitters 2, Finkster! Look!

/points

Bero: Now I DO mean to be rude, but you really are full of shit. Killzone simulates real war as much as Tony Hawks simulates skateboarding.

In real war, it doesnt take half a clip of 5.56 to put an enemy down, handgrenades are also lethal at more than 3 metres, and the enemy sure as FUCK dont stand around and look bewildered when youve just wasted 2 of his mates. To name but a few errors. Also, I seem to recall soldiers being able to JUMP in real life, but maybe things change in the future, right...?

The ONLY difference between the "representation of real war" in Halo 1 + 2 and Killzone, is that Killzone uses high-tech weapons against a human foe, as opposed to Halo which uses sci-fi weapons against aliens.

Get over yourself and your none-too-impressive attempts at sounding "in the know" about "real war".

Pfft!

The weird thing is that all these criticisms (except possibly that it looks boring) could as easily be levelled at Halo 2 as well. Try reading through the review and mentally substitute "Killzone" for "Halo 2", etc.

Oh well. Seeing as I enjoyed the preview so much, I shall withhold final judgement until I've played the final game...

Yeh at least bero agrees with me. Killzone is much better than a lot of reviews have said. Not earth shattering but definitely one of the best console FPS shooter games.

Bloody TimeSplitters 2, Finkster! Look!

/pointsYe can point all ye like! Even that is relegated to the relms of meh! because of bloody floppy stick syndrome.

gestalt: 'ostensibly' means something that appears to be so, is intended to look so, and isn't actually so. Not 'obviously'.

that's me pedant quota for the day.

Half-Life's pretty good with a USB mouse and keyboard. :D