Killer 7 Review

Kristan and Tom share the same page, if not the same brain.

Version tested: GameCube

Kristan's take...

Few game creators could ever or would ever get away with conceiving a game that pushes its stylistic vision to the forefront of the experience, but that's exactly what Capcom and co-conspirators Grasshopper have done with Killer 7.

In many senses, Killer 7 distances itself as far as possible from the videogaming herd while also being an incredibly focused and back to basics shooter at heart; you just have to unravel a few obtuse layers to get there. While many games before it have played around with cel-shading and have made striking visual statements, few have thrown so many radical design changes at us in one go and expected the audience to take them on board.

That Killer 7 throws control and camera convention completely out of the window is one thing, but to do so without so much as even the briefest of tutorials is the biggest possible statement of its wilfully obscure arthouse intent. To thrust gamers into an environment where even the ability to move around or change the camera angle is completely at odds with anything else tells you something about where the developers' heads were at during this game's protracted development process.

For a while Killer 7 really does feel like a case of 'forget everything you know'; a bit like the sense of disorientation of getting in a left-hand-drive for the first time. And then being asked to steer with your feet, use the in-car stereo controls instead of the pedals and high-five pedestrians with your spare left hand.

As ludicrous as that analogy sounds, it's not all that far removed from Capcom's intriguing decision to map the movement controls of your character to a single button and completely remove any responsibility over the camera angle. That's right, hitting the A button has your chosen character run forward, and hitting B turns you around 180 degrees. That's it.

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Head: meet foot.

As you approach objects of interest (such as doors, corridor junctions, objects, NPCs) a transparent glass shard indicator slides onto the screen allowing you to interact with them. A quick nudge of the appropriate direction on the left stick confirms your choice of path, and that's all there is to the nuts and bolts of getting around Killer 7's environments.

As alien as it sounds, and as jarring as it feels when you first get your hands on it, this new control system hasn't ripped up decades of game design principles simply for the sake of being 'arthouse'. Okay, perhaps that's a matter of opinion, but by locking the camera to a midget-staring-at-your-armpit view it instantly allows Capcom to continue in its long-held desire to deliver a 'dramatic' jaunty angle on the proceedings. Remember how long Capcom persisted with the fixed cameras in Resident Evil? [*shudder* - Ed].

Whether this is a good thing or not is an argument that will rage forever, but it does - at the very least - mean that we, the viewer, get to see the game presented in The Way The Designers Intended. It's an admirably single-minded purity of vision, but a somewhat superfluous decision given that the actual meat of the game - the combat - actually takes place entirely in a manually selected first-person mode.

About eighty per cent of your time with Killer 7 will be spent trying to defend yourself from a perpetually respawning posse of exploding zombie-like creatures, known as 'Heaven Smiles' after their delightfully fixed grins. The main issue to address initially is to actually find out where the threat is coming from, due to their state of invisibility. The first thing that alerts you to their impending presence is a delirious cackle that emanates from the speakers whenever they catch sight of you. At that stage you must switch to the first-person view by holding down the right shoulder button and performing a quick 'scan' of the area with the left shoulder button. If you're looking in the right place (not always likely - they could be behind you or around the corner) they'll show up in all their vile glory, complete with a gold-yellow weak spot for you to target.

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Targeting the yellow weak spots is tough when your aim is drifting like crazy.

The combat system feels rather like Resident Evil 4's in many respects, and, just like Capcom's other zombie fest, the degree to how much you enjoy Killer 7 depends an awful lot on how proficient you are with the analogue stick. With practice, skill, familiarity and a succession of upgrades it's possible to really get into the Virtua Cop-style combat, but for the first few chapters it can be a real ball-breaker and somewhat unforgiving. In tandem with the overall bewilderment you'll doubtlessly experience with the unfamiliar, counter-intuitive control system, and the rambling, obtuse character interactions it's a game that takes a long time to truly appreciate.

You might rapidly come to the conclusion that Killer 7 is a complete pile of self-indulgent nonsense that's sprung forth from the minds of men bored with making conventional crowd-pleasing entertainment. It's like Radiohead's Kid A all over again. For the first few hours you'll go through the full range of emotions - from delighted admiration through to total distraught bewilderment. But whether you come full circle very much depends on what you want from videogames. Do you want to wallow in the glow of the familiar or experience something that sets out to do things differently? If it's the former then you'll almost certainly throw the pad down in disgust in less than ten minutes, but if it's the latter, then Killer 7 is likely to provide a peculiar degree of satisfaction the more time you invest in it.

There comes a turning point during Killer 7 when somehow everything starts to click into place. You stop getting so annoyed with being blown up and start appreciating that the combat's perhaps not as annoyingly simplistic as you thought it was, that the enemies don't quite wield as much power as you credited them with, and that you're not as bad an aim as you thought you were.

You also start to appreciate the puzzles for not being as elaborate and overbearing as they could have been, and start to slot into a nice rhythm that makes you want to make progress because it's actually good fun, and not merely just to 'get it out of the way' like many other games.

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That wiped the smile off your face didn't it?

The other main factor we haven't discussed yet is how significant the characters are to Killer 7's unique appeal, and it grows with every passing chapter. To begin with, all you can fathom out is that a wheelchair-bound old man by the name of Harman Smith seems to have an ability to command a plethora of radically different personalities that collectively form the infamous 'Killer 7'.

Each element of Harman's twisted split personality is selectable via a TV set - several of which are dotted around each level - or interchangeable through the pause menu, and each has their own specific set of strengths and weaknesses that come into play at specific points during the game. For example, Kaede Smith is the only one of the seven to sport a zoom on her gun, so becomes essential when you need to pick a target off from distance. Coyote, on the other hand, is adept at lockpicking and leaping to improbable heights, Kevin can turn himself invisible, ex pro-wrestler Mask can blast anything to pieces with a bloody great shotgun, Con can run like the wind and hear things others can't, while Dan is just a badass extraordinaire. The smooth-talking, laid back leader of the gang, Garcian, plays a crucial role of 'cleaner'. Although his duty in the game appears to be less 'hands-on', his ability to resurrect downed members of the Killer 7 by picking up their remains is one that spares the player from many a Game Over screen.

As you go through the game dispatching Heaven Smiles you'll swiftly gather up blood for targeting their weak spots - mere kills don't earn you anything. Siphoning off blood eventually allows you to trade two different types of the sticky red stuff; thick and thin blood. The former allows you to convert it to a serum, allowing you to upgrade each characters in four key areas (Skill, Speed, Waver and character-specific skills like Invisibility, Range and so on), while the latter acts as health, allowing you to survive unexpected blasts from the devilish foes you often inadvertently run into.

It's important to emphasise that it's only when you've steadied your aiming abilities and powered up that the game really starts to come into its own. Also, as each of the 25 different varieties of Heaven Smiles start to become familiar to you, the less of a menace they become and the more satisfying it is to blast them in the best way you know how.

Acquiring the intimate knowledge of each character's skills helps make the game's combat way more enjoyable, although we'd prefer it if Capcom didn't resort to respawning enemies into areas you've only just battled through. Satisfying combat is one thing, but repetition borne out of lazy, old-fashioned gaming mechanics is entirely another. There should be a law against this stuff.

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Breakdancing was never their forte.

And while we're on the subject, it becomes an awful drag to find yourself having to constantly resurrect your downed characters, especially when the sparseness of save points can result in unpleasant, tedious retreads if Garcian himself cops it (being as he is the only character you can't resurrect, therefore prompting the dreaded Game Over screen).

But as much as we admire a lot of what Killer 7 stands for, we can't help shake the feeling that the game is far less ambitious than it initially appears. It is, for want of a better summation, a very simple linear shoot-'em-up with a cast of complete oddballs and a story that you'll either lose interest in, or wish you hadn't really bothered getting your head around in the first place. In this case it really does seem to be being obtuse for the sake of it, or maybe something was just lost in translation (especially the Pigeon Carrier notes that all feature song titles from The Smiths, hilariously).

The crunch issue is whether you'll want to buy it or not. For those desperate for something new to chew, it really is one of those games you need to play for yourself and to hell with what anyone else thinks of it. Try it. You might like it. The slightly awkward conclusion is that Killer 7 definitely isn't for everyone. It's a concept game, an arthouse game, a simple game, an often beautiful game, but most certainly never an everyman's game. For some people Killer 7 will be deemed awful, shallow, impenetrable, undesirable. It's a game that's sure to polarise opinion, but this reviewer swung from loving it to hating it and eventually to admiring it despite its obvious flaws. You just wish Capcom had gone all the way and done something truly mesmerising with gaming, so you could say yours truly is personally disappointed that it's ended up merely being a stylised shooter. But taken on its own merits, it's a damned fine effort and it's earned itself a fan here - certainly in the context of any future drunken rant on the subject. Just try it.

8 / 10

Tom's killing in the game of...

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Mask may have the most powerful weapon, but you don't gain any blood for his kills.

Mess. Killer 7 is a mess. A mess of messes, some of which are messy in that comforting "this is my mess" kind of way, and some of which are messy in that depressing "my little brother decided to disassemble my DVD player" kind of way. Critiquing it is very much like trying to reassemble something you didn't take apart in the first place - and the results, as must be obvious from the vastly different reactions charted by various review aggregators and web forums, certainly aren't the same for everyone.

What's slightly disarming about the whole affair is that for all its almost Lynchian obliqueness it actually reveals itself as quite a simple concoction. Movement seems awkward because you're not used to it, but you soon get the hang of running along one path and using the stick to opt for a particular option when it forks, and once you understand about using the left trigger to scan and things like the individual Killer 7 members' reload cycles and various abilities, that side of the game is more of less sewn up, leaving you to apply their standard skills to certain confusing situations and concentrate on not getting your head blown off, solving the relatively simple (and distinctly Resi Evil-esque puzzles) and figuring out what on Earth is going on plot-wise. Once you get the hang of actually playing it, the latter is arguably the most difficult thing in the game.

But to begin with, you will be confused. The omission of a proper tutorial is very daft, with simple concepts like Garcian's ability to resurrect characters barely explained, and critical information hidden away in overlong one-sided chats with apparitions of your past victims who are dotted around the levels to offer advice and the occasional tool. Already confused by the back-to-front mechanics, some people will be turned off by their stumbling verbosity and lose interest - and that opening burst of frustration will sour proceedings and lead to lots of bitching about the movement controls, the aiming, the puzzles, the boss design and so on. Surely this is true of any performance medium? If the audience feels bad about the first bit, they'll greet everything that follows with cynicism until equilibrium is restored.

Killer 7 does that within a few hours, as the core components start to make sense and your characters improve their aiming skill so the crosshair doesn't waver so much, but there are still too many points of division for this to be termed a classic.

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Travis (pictured right) has the best in-game T-shirts in the history of gaming.

The way the movement path is restricted could actually be deemed a good thing if the idea had been put to work a bit more elegantly. Preventing gamers running up against walls and swaggering drunkenly from side to side as they move can upset the suspension of disbelief, not to mention spoil set-pieces. First-person shooters are often guilty of this - as the edginess is scythed away by the player's instinct to constantly back away to frame them on-screen, as if they were a war reporter rather than an actual soldier caught up in the event. Killer 7's movement idea gave the designers the chance to resolve that by framing events and locations creatively, yet most of the levels don't seem to have been designed with that in mind, so the result is something that gets rid of the problem of swaggering characters but fails to visibly improve things by capitalising on the potential it had to go further.

Naturally, in the absence of any obvious improvement, most people instinctively treat it as though it's change for change's sake and, as we've already suggested, if they're pissed off already it's going to earn another red mark on the mental list of things to whinge about on the forum later.

The combat, meanwhile, is going to fracture the groupthink on Killer 7 to an even greater degree. It's a bit like playing House of the Dead with an analogue stick, because it's often impractical to spin round on the spot and back off, and if you just run for it you will collide with enemies who remain translucent until you've scanned them. Standing there fighting, not everybody's good at aiming with analogue sticks. So while some will be perfectly content and find their blood pumped by the slaughter - which is accompanied by some delightfully emphatic victory-babble from your chosen persona, not to mention some extremely arty animations - others will be turned off by it, and may not even stick around to discover that you can make things easier on yourself.

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Garcian Smith: badder than James Brown.

What's more, the game doesn't help itself with monsters that you can't place until it's too late (oh how we yearned for surround sound!), and some encounters that demand pixel-perfect aiming. One sticks in the mind in particular - somewhat aptly, it's an encounter that involves targeting an exposed brain that's just a few pixels wide. Using Kaede's scope, this is tough but doable. But she's only available if you've woken her up by killing a certain number of enemies and using one of the TV sets we mentioned earlier to rouse her. Otherwise you're stuck with two guys with wavering guns and a knife-chucker. It wasn't that hard to stay alive, but even sat two feet from a 36" widescreen TV using RGB cabling it took nearly a quarter of an hour for this writer to register even one hit. Lord knows how anyone's expected to do it that way on a smaller TV using a blurrier connection like composite or RF.

Fortunately, whether you fall on the side of the frustrated or the skilfully enthralled, there are still plenty of things that will appeal to any gamer in the short and long term. The visuals are the most obvious hook - a dazzling arrangement of coloured cels with only minimal texturing and deliberately peculiar colouring, it's a bit like playing a cel-shaded game with no outlines and only the most striking shadows given more than a gentle gradient-fill of shading. Seeing it in motion for a while, it becomes normal, but it's never short of an artistic flourish to keep you interested - and we're still yet to become bored of the way your character is suddenly tugged apart into floating blobs of blood, which draw to a halt in mid-air and then drop to the floor as one, whenever you switch to another of Harman Smith's personas.

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For Kaede, it's all about the blood.

But perhaps the thing that will make or break the jaded gamer's appreciation of Killer 7 is your interest in its narrative. Those of us still content to romp home relying on mere mechanics for entertainment will have made our minds up by now, and there's a good-length adventure here which journeys through plenty of interesting locations and has been designed efficiently with only a few true moments of obtuseness (respawning enemies and remember-the-pattern-and-apply-it-later puzzles, for example) to upset proceedings. But those who need the added padding of a gripping narrative are going to be split between those who enjoy the awkwardly told tale of a planet tumbling into anarchy in the aftermath of World Peace, and those who get bored of the clunky dialogue and the confusingly weighty atmosphere that pervades most of the game's cut-scenes. Sometimes you feel like the only guy in the room who doesn't know what's going on, and if you're the sort of person who finds that off-putting rather than intriguing, you might not last.

Still, if Killer 7 is undisputedly one thing then it's fascinating. It's absolutely fantastic to see something like this given a worldwide release on PS2 and GameCube in such a risk-averse climate, and Capcom deserves kudos for giving the game its support. Whether it deserves kudos for the content is a much more difficult equation to unravel, but for all its divisiveness and peculiarity, it seems obvious which number belongs on the end.

7 / 10

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Comments (63) Latest comment 6 years ago

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  • Tonka #1 7 years ago

    A 7/10, how fitting.
  • Dizzy #2 7 years ago

    So the game gets high marks for being "daring"?

    Penny Arcade said something like this "I recommend you do NOT buy this game, but I do recommend you PLAYING this game". I guess that is a good description of K7 ;) An aquired taste...
    Edited by 1 at 22/07/05 @ 13:10
  • Blerk #3 7 years ago

    But that's ridiculous - if they say people need to play it but warn them not to buy it, it doesn't sell. And if it doesn't sell, they don't do similar stuff. So then we get more car games.

    /makes 'retards' face
  • Teeth #4 7 years ago

    I might have to pick it up, sounds like a blast. Plus the idea of the woman having sex with the disabled guy gets me hot.

    can't type today, I dunno
    Edited by 1 at 22/07/05 @ 13:20
  • Huntcjna #5 7 years ago

    Yep that sealed im gonna order it £26.99 on play.com both reviews were great
  • jack_klugman #6 7 years ago

    I might have to pick it up, sounds like a blast. Plus the idea of the woman having sex with the disabled guy gets me hot.

    The idea of a break from the norm gets me hot.
  • Dizzy #7 7 years ago

    > But that's ridiculous

    Ok true... but I guess the PA guys were approaching it from a gamers point of view. Not good enough to waste money on but interesting to play to see what it is all about.
  • Tweakmonkey #8 7 years ago

    So why is this not a lightgun game?

    Good point. They should have put light-gun support in there just like Resident Evil Survivor.
  • sephy #9 7 years ago

    I've never seen anything promoting or even referencing the ps2 version except in one forum thread this week.

    It's all been cube, cube, cube. No wonder the cube version is supposed to be selling much more then ps2as few people seem to know it exists. I saw ONE copy of the ps2 version in all of canterbury on Monday
  • AtomicBanana #10 7 years ago

    'But that's ridiculous - if they say people need to play it but warn them not to buy it, it doesn't sell. And if it doesn't sell, they don't do similar stuff. So then we get more car games. '

    No it isn't - Makes perfect sense to me. It's something they feel is worth experincing, but not good enough to justify it's current price, and after reading this review I think I feel the same way.
  • itamae #11 7 years ago

    I'm very, very tempted to buy this. Will have to find out whether the German version has been altered in any way first though.
  • smelly #12 7 years ago

    I have this game.. not convinced.. after an hour play i didnt like it.. but i might keep at it...
  • onyxbox #13 7 years ago

    I was hoping this would be a lightgun game :-/

    Minimal controls and a gun would have made this game a classic. When the multiple choice things come up you could have shot the option you wanted etc..
  • Blerk #14 7 years ago

    No it isn't - Makes perfect sense to me. It's something they feel is worth experincing, but not good enough to justify it's current price, and after reading this review I think I feel the same way.

    Not a great way to support the 'oddities' market though, is it?

    Why not buy it then trade it? That way everyone 'wins'.
  • joey #15 7 years ago

    spehy, if your in Canterbury Game I'd be surprised you could find any Cube games as they now only have a small isle unit with a few games on, looks like they think it's game over for the Cube already! (hey you could always try Lee's 'Entertainment' tho ;-)
  • mcmonkeyplc #16 7 years ago

    Lets just give up on a conker review then :p

  • AtomicBanana #17 7 years ago

    'Not a great way to support the 'oddities' market though, is it?

    Why not buy it then trade it? That way everyone 'wins'.'

    I see what you're saying, but I don't know about you but I certainly can't afford to buy every oddity I wish to support. I try my best but it's not always going to happen. If I was loaded right now I'd go out and buy it - but I'm not.

    What the PA comment says to me is, regardless of that, I should try and play it, just to experince what it's like, instead of just saying 'I can't afford that' and ignoring it wholesale. I know gaming is a business just like any other, but hey, sometimes the art aspect comes into it if you see what I mean.
  • WoodenSpoon #18 7 years ago

    I was thinking of a clever Kid A comment just when I came to reading the comment about Kid A in the review. Bast!
  • kangarootoo #19 7 years ago

    Seems like a hard game to score. Some people will find it annoying "style over content" tosh, where others will find it a refreshing detour from the norm. Sort of like GTA:SA, which is full of huge scope, invention and adventure whilst at the same time being so full of kindergarten design flaws and an apparent lack of playtesting as to make me wince.

    I am a cynical old bugger, ready to call "emperors new clothes" at any given opportunity, so I am kind of cautious about this one. I applaud new ideas and lateral jumps in control mechanic design as much as anyone, but I also feel that whatever new direction you take your gameplay, pissing off or frustrating your player is simply A Bad Thing. For that reason I am not sure that Killer 7 would be my bag. I'll give it a hestitant rental I think.
  • kangarootoo #20 7 years ago

    " Lets just give up on a conker review then :p"

    Is that a promise?
  • AtomicBanana #21 7 years ago

    Is kid A the Aphex Twin style one? If so I instantly loved that one, missing out on all these emotions :D
  • Ted Cuntablast #22 7 years ago

    Will the Conker whingers shut the fuck up for once!
  • tomacwhite #23 7 years ago

    I have the Japanese GC version, and I love it. A couple of occasional frustrations (and that boss was an utter fucker that is mentioned in the second review), but its a cool game.

  • Freek #24 7 years ago

    Blerk, there's actaully a comforatable middel ground between Killer 7s "lets make it so out there that we end with a broken game that looks really cool" and NFS: Undergrounds "Lets not f%cking bother at all" apraoch to game design.
    It's not one or the other.
    Stuff like Viewtifull Joe and Katamari Damaci lives there where you can be original and quirky but also have good gameplay.
    Edited by 1 at 22/07/05 @ 13:59
  • Chtulie #25 7 years ago

    'tale of a planet tumbling into anarchy in the aftermath of World Peace'

    Would it be too much of a spoiler to say that this is actually only the side story?
    Much like an anime series, only at about the halfway point does the real big, over, meta plot kick in, start tying together little hints dropped since the beginning and bring it to one hell of a conclusion in the end.
  • Gurgeh #26 7 years ago

    It's interesting, it's different, but the gameplay is lacking. It would work better (but sell far less) as a pure puzzle game because the combat is basically a light-gun shooter minus the light gun.
  • Feanor #27 7 years ago

    Do you speak Japanese or do you not care about the story?

    Kid A has some great songs on it, (e.g. Idioteque and Morning Bell) and others I almost always skip.

    /considers buying Killer 7 knowing he can't skip tracks on a game
  • Cyhwuhx #28 7 years ago

    .::: A few comments. You can change characters at any spot as long as you've awakened them (you can choosse them in the pause menu and they'll 'blood-change' into each other). You don't need the tv. You do need the tv to awaken characters and make them available though.
    If you can't see the enemies you can also wait for the little flash to kill enemies instantly with your counter-attack. So even if you can't find your enemies you still have a surviving chance.
  • oerhoert #29 7 years ago

    Seems no one have said it yet, so I will:

    DO NOT BUY THE PS2 VERSION

    Reasons: crappy framrate in places, longer load times, less effects, generally more sluggish feel. Seems to me the Eurogamer staff didn't test it at all, 'cause for once, there is a big difference between the versions. So, just don't buy it, OK?

    Furthermore, the difference between this and San Andreas is that this is indeed a very nicely designed game, without any obvious design flaws, apart from maybe some frustrating bits here and there.

    So, in short, it's very good. The combat is intense once you get the hang of it, it's possible at all times to change characters and fill up your health gauge (if you have the blood to do so, naturally). All in all - once you learn how to work things out, you seldom die, and instead you are having lots of fun with it. Even if the individual gameplay parts are simple, they are also gratifying, and their appeal lasts (I know, I am on my second play-through).

    The puzzling is basic and badly integrated, but integration was never the point here. The important thing is, there are plenty of hints, and the puzzles themselves never fail to be logical. Therefore, they are also constistently entertaining.
    Edited by 6 at 22/07/05 @ 14:17
  • krudster #30 7 years ago

    It wasn't a case of not testing the PS2 version - Capcom didn't send it to us, or else we might have.
  • tiddles #31 7 years ago

    Story, presentation, style - 9/10

    Gameplay - 5/10

    Personally, I like it :)
  • tomacwhite #32 7 years ago

    Do you speak Japanese or do you not care about the story?

    Its all in English except the memos.

  • Eighthours #33 7 years ago

    It's arty, it's quirky, it's great.

    My girlf hates it, but she's got no taste.

    Ah.....
  • sephy #34 7 years ago

    sephy, if your in Canterbury Game I'd be surprised you could find any Cube games as they now only have a small isle unit with a few games on, looks like they think it's game over for the Cube already! (hey you could always try Lee's 'Entertainment' tho ;-)

    They always have the recent cube releases as well as a selection of older stuff. It's the ps2 version I havent seen much.

    re lee's: Its been years since I gave that bastard any money and I like it that way. I'm in complete opposition to his business methods
  • Kiigan #35 7 years ago

    A huge disappointment, this game. The stylish presentation was... not all that stylish at all at times, and pretty glitchy and ugly at other times. Story was utterly stupid - really sub-par adolescent drivel. And it isn't all that much fun to play... puzzles are so absurdly straight forward that you wonder why they are there at all. Combat is tedious, repetitive and sometimes frustrating (especially if you die when walking blind around a corner etc).

    It's an interesting game, worth a look definitely. I'm glad it got made. It's just a bit of a let-down.
  • stormcr0wfleet #36 7 years ago

    Well.. Ive just won an industury promo PS2 disk of killer7 on ebay for £4.20 :). thought at that price i might as well check it out (even if the ps2 is the weaker version). Playing thou Cold winter at the moment thou so it will have to wait untill ive finished that :)..
  • Feanor #37 7 years ago

    "Do you speak Japanese or do you not care about the story?

    Its all in English except the memos"

    Oops, didn't know that. Well, that's handy for importers.
  • davyuk #38 7 years ago

    Well I love Kid A, Aphex and even Autechre. Killer 7, on the other hand, I could not tolerate.

    The only redeeming feature of K7 is the visual style, yet even that lends to marring the already frustrating gameplay. Gameplay that equates to being late for work when every traffic light turns red as you approach, and each of those is 10 yards apart.

    This may be good anime, but it's a terrible game.
  • smelly #39 7 years ago

    "Why not buy it then trade it? That way everyone 'wins'. "

    apart from the developer who's just lost out on one sale.
  • davyuk #40 7 years ago

    "Why not buy it then trade it? That way everyone 'wins'. "

    apart from the developer who's just lost out on one sale.


    More sales are lost to rental than trade-ins. Besides, I keep all the really good games, and trade the ones I shouldn't have wasted my money on.
  • sonmi451 #41 7 years ago

    a very disappointing game. fair play, it attempts to break away from the norm, but fails miserably. it's still a gun game. but it's clunky, slow, irritating, and feels remote and distant to play. it tries to be stylish but again fails miserably and looks plain ugly and confused. 4/10 from me.
  • Sid-Nice #42 7 years ago

    I have a feeling that the bargain bins in Game will be full of returned copies. My first impression was " This looks cool. " Then that Iwazaru's (guide) mubblings began to irritate. My biggest mistake was loading the game without reading the manual, once I sussed out the controls things got better and better. I haven't played the game long enough to give an opinion, but it is easy to see why some people will play the game and think WTF.
  • Darth_Flibble #43 7 years ago

    I can understand the criticism but I really like the game. I think a part of the reason why people like the style people are sick of bland crap pumped out by certain companies.
  • tenma #44 7 years ago

    The reviews were spot on. I had been looking forward to this game for almost two years and beat it almost a couple of weeks ago and it's very much like they described: I started out loving it, and then hating it, but after you get used to the whole schematics of things, it's very easy to start loving it again and genuinely wanting to improve your characters.

    The only gripe that I have about the game is that the story was too deep for a 15 hour action adventure game. Each chapter is so filled with complex storyline (that's never really resolved by the end of it) that they could each be made into a 30 hour RPG. It seems like Killer 7 is an RPG inside the body of an action/adventure FPS.

    Definitely makes me want to try Suda's "Silver Affair" though.
  • JP #45 7 years ago

    Only artists are allowed to invoke artistic license.
  • Artemus #46 7 years ago

    Mask doesn't have a shotgun in my version... ;-)
  • kentmonkey #47 7 years ago

    Seen it on that Bravo gaming show & it really didn't do anything for me. Lots of promise but didn't actually look all that fun to play & I don't play to "experience things", I play to have fun at the end of the day.

    Sephy, what's wrong with Lee's Entertainment? I mean I know they're seriously overpriced, the store is always in a mess, it's dark & dingy & they hardly ever have anything in (certainly worth getting anyway) but wonder what his ethics are.
  • Chtulie #48 7 years ago

    "The only gripe that I have about the game is that the story was too deep for a 15 hour action adventure game. Each chapter is so filled with complex storyline that they could each be made into a 30 hour RPG. It seems like Killer 7 is an RPG inside the body of an action/adventure FPS. "

    Maybe it's more the other way around, you've got games which are story oriented but usually have a very, essentially short story stretched out over 40 hours of gameplay (in comics the term 'decompressed storytelling' would've been often used by the author), whilst this and a few other story otiented games have a story dense enough to fill the 15 hours it takes to finish it.
  • raikov #49 7 years ago

    Sounds like a good example of why we need episodic content at a cheap price.
  • Kurgan #50 7 years ago

    I bought this on day of release, as I've been looking forward to it for some time and have to say, I did not feel disappointed. A little disorientation regarding controls, but soon enough you're flicking the control stick intuitively to navigate to a new area. One thing I was very pleased with was that the control method gets rid of the needless searching around for items, hidden away in some crevice somewhere. Having the time taken to complete a game increase just because you have to actively traverse searching for something glinting isn't fun. Some games justify it by having monster encounters so you can improve your stats (Final Fantasy, for example), while others can't (Tomb Raider and its ilk.) What this game allows you to concentrate on is the puzzles themselves, which is what everyone wants.
    The nutso-story, great characters and, naturally, the awesome visuals (and I mean that in the original sense of the word, not like an advert for some awesome hotdogs at £2.99. Three person joke, that) do combine to make a very different, and welcome, game. Also up for honourable mention is the ace soundtrack (the music that plays when you pass through the Vinculum Gate is especially well written.)
    Some of the criticisms given by the reviewers seemed a little unfair (c'mon, if you've not killed enough Heaven Smile to unlock Kaede by the time you've reached the exposed-brain bosses, you can't be playing properly, and that's hardly a fault of the game. (If you wish, think of it as a strategic element of the game; whom do I awaken to use in the current level)). Also, the game does feature a lock-on (a la Metroid Prime) for those of you who suck at aiming in first-person with a joypad (I normally do, which is why I can't abide FPSs on consoles, but the aiming in this and RE4 are done very well.)
    Story-wise, it seems very much like many an anime I've seen. Not finished the game (still on the first disc) but it does seem to have many disparate elements. From some of the comments so far, I'm now not looking for a complete resolution to the story, but hey, I've played Half-Life 2, I'm used to that now.

    Whilst I do think that 7 is a little harsh (8 or 9 would be my score), it IS the number to give this game :-)

    Also, I believe Artemus has already pointed out that Mask doesn't have any shotguns. It's a pair of grenade launchers that he wields. ;-)
    Edited by 1 at 22/07/05 @ 23:06
  • Xerx3s #51 7 years ago

    Hmmm. Perhaps i might buy it. Good reviews though.
  • Chtulie #52 7 years ago

    "Sounds like a good example of why we need episodic content at a cheap price."

    I can just about see it, a few good starting episodes, then a slow decline, but continuing sales as players stick around 'hoping it will get better' or 'wanting to know how it will end' ans the publishers realizing they've by now got a cheap milk cow on their hands so it'll never end, or killing it if it does badly leaving players with hardly half a game...
    ...a bit like american superhero comics (where the corperate people actually refer to their fan costomers as 'zombies'), or those trashy fantasy novels (a triligy, no, quadriology, no, a series that went nowhere as the writer simply couln't be bothered anymore after the 5th book and so the story simply stops).

    Modern games do seem to become more and more halfassed the closer you get to the end these days, but at least they have some sort of a resolution ('Starfox adventures' for instance).
  • OfficerSlade #53 7 years ago

    Have to say that this is right up there with Resi 4 as one of the best games of this year . I agree with Kurgan about the criticism of the ''suits' boss fight. If you think you have a chance of beating this boss without Kaede's sniper scope you have no clue about games generally, let alone this one. She is easily unlockable if you have actually shot a few Smiles. I would urge everyone to buy this game so that a sequel gets commisioned and we see more brave and truly original games getting a European release.
  • OfficerSlade #54 7 years ago

    Oh and there is a tutorial ....the first time you load up the a new game it asks you if you want to play the tutorial. It takes you through the basic controls. Not sure how you guys missed it.
  • pjmaybe #55 7 years ago

    It's a stylised game trying hard to be something it's inevitably not...

    fun
    to
    play



    Peej
  • Chtulie #56 7 years ago

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  • tiddles #57 7 years ago

    This game is in a tight spot
  • Beitel #58 7 years ago

    The story is great, and although it's not that complicated, the games askes you to think. There are clues everywhere, hidden in the cryptic lines of the ghosts you encounter, but you have make the connection between the clues. There are going to happen strange things in the game, and you have to make a conclusion out of that with all the clues you've gathered.

    So I'm already busy with the unlocked mode to find the clues I've missed. :)
  • Genji #59 7 years ago

    It's something unique and new, and that's good enough for me. As I've said before, I'd rather new ideas - even if they turn out to be bad - than the same thing wrapped up in prettier graphics.

    This is one of the scariest games I've ever played, btw.
  • tenma #60 7 years ago

    tiddles: "This game is in a tight spot"


    Haha, Classic!
  • SlackMaster #61 7 years ago

    It may take some getting used to but forwards, backwards and fire doesn't seem like much of a game to me. That bloody laughing just gets on my nerves and while it looks nice and may have a different adult themed story the game itself is very dull.
  • captain-future #62 7 years ago

    hmmm, played the PS2-version for some hours now - reading the booklet is really a good idea...

    opinions aside whether you like the game or not the PS2 version has horrible load times (not long but almost everytime you exit a room, every 30 seconds or so). also it doesn't look as good as the cube version.

    personally I think the controls are broken, even after hours I often hit the wrong direction (a loading screen is the instant punishment).

    and I don't like the FPS shooting (really: a light-gun would be a good addition) because most of the time I run into enemies which just waitet around some corner.

    btw: I hate that Iwazaru guy. Does this freak always repeat the free lines "Danger. We're in a tight spot...blah blah" and I don't understand a single word that is spoken thanks to his voice modulation that sounds like a modem on sterioids.

    also I have seen games like Deka Voice (JP only) that have a very similar graphic style and have been released in 2003.

    and why the long delay, the game was promised christmas 2003, over 2 years of delay (probably because the ps2-version) and then such a sloppy release.

    from the original capcom five it looked the most promising to me, Viewtiful Joe blewe me away, yet K7 isn't my game... maybe I'm getting conservative on my old days?
    Edited by 1 at 07/08/05 @ 14:49
  • Hufftur #63 6 years ago

    Bit late, sorry.

    The boss-fight with the 'suits'....... goddamn f@#%@#$ hell! But I did it WITHOUT the aide of the lass called Kaede. Yes, I was without scope. AND my television is TINY. So small!!

    Now... Who is... the man?! ;0


    Finished the game today on the cube btw. Great stuff. Loved it. And although in the end the story was still a tad confusing, I've got the Killer 8 mode to look forward to in the near future. And any game that has "Howling Mad" Murdock of A-Team fame in it as the head of a clan of psychotic killers, and supports a tune by Erik Satie, must be heavily appealing to all those who are sane.

    Hail to Suda!
    Edited by 1 at 02/10/05 @ 18:01