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Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo-Geneva Comments by Tom Bramwell

24 July, 2002

Review - a stopgap for GT owners, but is there enough of it to justify 25 quid?

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Whizzo
24/07/02 @ 14:01
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I was tempted to buy it then I realised that I don't really play GT3 itself much other than MP. However it can be bought for £17.99 from Play.com so if it's price putting anyone off it can be bought cheaper.
Whizzo
24/07/02 @ 14:06
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Wow that price link was updated quick! :-)
Mugwum [staff]
24/07/02 @ 14:10
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Whizzo: yep, I've just kicked the website and et voila, a Play.com link should be sat below the review.

Abscido: thanks - I'm not even sure it's the best thing in the world for GT nuts in terms of value, although a £17.99 price tag certainly does put another spin on it... after all, that's pretty much DVD price territory.
Whizzo
24/07/02 @ 14:14
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Stuff it 18 quid is too tempting not to go for it after all, one should be winging it's way to me very shortly.

That's one thing I like about the PS2, there are so many things worth buying at dirt cheap prices; my copy of VF4 for 15 notes should be waiting for me when I get home this evening...
UncleLou
24/07/02 @ 14:24
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Spot-on review. I knew before I bought it that it wouldn't be worth the 40 Euros I paid for it. However, I also knew I wouldn't be happy if I didn't own it. ;-)
Nemesis
24/07/02 @ 14:42
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'Lou you collector you!

I had a look in the car list for GTC and they've finally chucked the Golf in there, which is better late than never. Rather drive that about that the Beetle TBH.
trippy
24/07/02 @ 15:00
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Well, no good then i'm guessing.
down under, this game is retailing for $69 dollars whilst Kmart is pricing it at 59 bucks.
Still a bit excessive in my opinion, considering the rather poor amount of tracks supplied.

Why not just wait for GT4, and by then , all the worthwhile concept cars will be in production... And you'll still get the cars in the game..
For example, the new nissan Z is such a sexy looker.

So for 18 pounds, this new concept is in dvd price category, ?? surely not...
In australia, its not even close.
Nemesis
24/07/02 @ 15:05
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I'd say look at this as just an expansion, for which you usually get, what, 10 hours of play generally...
hahakid
24/07/02 @ 15:07
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yes yes, but do you get 10 million you can carry back to Gran Turismo 3 ?
Nemesis
24/07/02 @ 15:08
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Don't ask me, I ain't even got it!

hahakid
24/07/02 @ 15:14
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well, so you say, but how do I know this ?

no matter though, now I've ordered it anyway, really enjoyed GT3..
Nemesis
24/07/02 @ 15:39
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Er, because I no longer own a PS2?

Check out the forums, gamefaqs may enlighten u...
hahakid
24/07/02 @ 16:25
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yeah, already googled it, was wondering if it's still in the EU version..
UncleLou
24/07/02 @ 16:33
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"'Lou you collector you!"

I am actually no collector at all. Quite on the contrary, I sell a lot of games on eBay and generally have no problems throwing away stuff. Only exception are books and CDs. Of course. ;-)
UncleLou
25/07/02 @ 09:03
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*sigh* Finsihed it yesterday evening.
A tip: Try the "toaster" (the car in the first screenshot) on the rally tracks. Great fun.
Nemesis
25/07/02 @ 09:09
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Was it worth the money?
UncleLou
25/07/02 @ 09:19
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No and yes. Like I said yesterday, it is not really worth the money, but I knew I wouldn't get it out of my head if I didn't own it, so I had to buy it to put myself at ease. After all, GT3 was the main reason why I bought a PS2. Very helpful, eh?

Btw, the graphical improvements must be more than I thought, because I fired up GT3 after having earned the 10.000.000 credit, and it almost looked a bit dull when ccompared to Gtc?!. I wish they had just made one complete package out of GT3 and GTC, implementing the graphical improvements, cars and the new track into GT3 and sold it for a bit more than GT3 Platinum.
Nemesis
25/07/02 @ 09:25
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Lou, who says they won't do that anyhow....

When I had GT3 I really liked the rally parts. Throwing a 206 around the dirt tracks was a LOT of fun.
UncleLou
25/07/02 @ 09:33
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Just realised that - as you own no PS2 anymore - you probably wanted to hear the following:

"Nah, it wasn't worth it at all, a complete waste of money indeed, looks worse than GT3, I feel totally ripped of and will thus now sell my PS2 and quit gaming for the rest of my life."

Btw, my favourite rally car is the Lancia Delta Integrale. Funny thing is, as much as I love GT3, I have no affection to cars in real life at all. A car has to have four wheels, that's basically all that matters to me.
Killerbee
25/07/02 @ 09:37
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Seems a shame they didn't take this opportunity to make a bit more out of the GT series of games - put in some new features like crash damage etc. As it is I think I'll stick with GT3 as it's certainly got plenty more miles left in it for me (excuse the pun).

It would be nice if you could port the new cars and tracks into a regular GT3 game, though.
UncleLou
25/07/02 @ 09:40
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"put in some new features like crash damage"

Just yesterday, I downloaded a few movies from the upcoming TOCA Pro Race Driver. This looks like it could deliver all I have missed in GT3. 14 cars on the track, realistic damage model, (supposedly) realistic A.I. and, from what I have seen, great graphics (didn't miss that one on GT3, of course). I am REALLY looking forward to this now.
hahakid
25/07/02 @ 09:53
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"Funny thing is, as much as I love GT3, I have no affection to cars in real life at all. A car has to have four wheels, that's basically all that matters to me. "

haha, exact same thing with me, could absolutely positively not care less about cars, but it's wierd how I now recognise certain models on the streets and go "wow, that's a really good car" or something similar to myself..
hahakid
25/07/02 @ 09:55
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"put in some new features like crash damage"

for me that would change the game quite a lot, mostly cause I'm a crap (virtual) driver I guess..
Nemesis
25/07/02 @ 10:21
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I quite liked the fact there were no damage models, my driving is soooo bad I'd not make it round the first few bends without losing some panels along the way!
DocX
25/07/02 @ 10:26
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"I now recognise certain models on the streets and go "wow, that's a really good car"

My missus always cracks up laughing when I say I've got that car - in my GT garage...
Killerbee
25/07/02 @ 10:30
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I quite liked the fact there were no damage models, my driving is soooo bad I'd not make it round the first few bends without losing some panels along the way!

True - it's not often I make it through a race without a few bumps - and it would prevent you taking advantage of the "ram the guy in front off the road just before the finish" tactic too. Always a useful one that...

Maybe the option would be better, with it made compulsory in, say, the professional league by when you should be a really good driver (!).

The AI could have been improved as well, but then that might have made it a bit too difficult...
Killerbee
25/07/02 @ 10:36
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My missus always cracks up laughing when I say I've got that car - in my GT garage...

I'm worse - when I first got GT2 ages ago, the first car I *had* to buy was a Vauxhall Astra in Polar Sea Blue - simply because that's what I have in real life.

Then I bought a Citroen Saxo in Amazon Green for the missus to race against me in 2-player.

I do have a life, honest... :-)
Nemesis
25/07/02 @ 10:42
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Noooooooooooo, me too!

I chose the Beetle in GT3 just to see if it handled as bad in the game as it does in real life. And it does. So glad I didn't buy one now. That's why I was so fed up you couldn't drive the Golf. And also why I chose the 206 in rally mode as I had one of those also.

Me. Crash damage. I have to turn it off in F1 cos I'm a madman!
hahakid
25/07/02 @ 11:23
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" "ram the guy in front off the road just before the finish" tactic too"

thank god, I thought I was the only one playing GT3 like a drunken criminal.
I actually use the walls to help me take corners sometimes, if they curve enough and your speed is high, why brake..

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UncleLou
25/07/02 @ 11:30
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Ooooh, I do that too, but the replays are so much nicer to watch when you managed NOT to bump into anything.

Btw, I had read in several reviews at the time GT3 came out that the A.I. drivers would become angry at you if you bumped into them too often, finally ignoring their wish to win the race and rather trying to push you off the track. Anyone ever noticed this? I didn't.
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DocX
25/07/02 @ 11:32
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Ah yes, "Cheat's Corner" we call that. There's one track, can't remember the name with one or two of those swooping corners you can take at full speed & the wall just swings you round nicely - beautiful for overtaking, plus there's a great corner right near the finish line that you can cut across completely, making up a second or two every lap.
Xensor
26/07/02 @ 00:49
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"Ah yes, "Cheat's Corner" we call that. There's one track, can't remember the name with one or two of those swooping corners you can take at full speed & the wall just swings you round nicely - beautiful for overtaking, plus there's a great corner right near the finish line that you can cut across completely, making up a second or two every lap.
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That'll be trial mountain then - and I do have a life... somewhere around here... honest... oh and the best non F1 car in GT3 is the Mazda 787b... kick ass...

So what if I've ploughed thousands of hours into the GT series? I enjoyed them :). I saw this game for £30 in my local EB. 30 f**king quid for an expansion pack! Have they lost their tiny little minds???
UncleLou
26/07/02 @ 08:01
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Just noticed on the statistics screen yesterday that I piled up more than 4000 km with GT3. That's definitely more than I drove in real life since I own GT3.
hahakid
26/07/02 @ 10:07
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While looking for picures of the Mazda 787 (why was I doing this?? this is going too far..), I found this:

http://www.granturismobynumbers.com


Lots of info in the forums.

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