Gears of War Comments by Kristan Reed

first lol

If people complain about this now they really need a new hobby.

lol indeed.

uh oh Spaghettio's!!!

lol again

yeah yeah yeah, but WHEN does the REAL next gen start? :)

@KnickKnack, with the release of DX10 games?

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/9... - 43 Reviews

using my calculator Gears of War still Averages at about an eight.

So as good as Halo

Doesn't bother me one bit about the score I have already bought the game as I said I would regardless of the review as I like the look of it, however I foresee another few hundred comments protesting and chastising Tristan!! Feel sorry for him his opinion is different to every other reviewer I have read on the subject but so what fair play to him on being honest least he is prepared not to bow to the majority. When I have played the game over the weekend I will decide whether I agree with him or not!!

8?

Oh God...here we go...

As good as GOW, then?

After reading through which I doubt many will, seems fair.

Am still really looking forward to the online co-op, despite the noted flaws.

I'm amazed that they didn't take a leaf from Bungie's book in the organisation of competitive multi-player.

After the flaming he got for the SP review, I'm faintly surprised Kristan was willing to do this one... Bravo, I say, regardless of score, for overcoming fear of the fanboys...

I just bought this today. I haven't had a chance to play an online versus mode yet, but the co-op thing is great.

It seems a tad harsh to mark the game down because idiots play it. Welcome to online gaming!

Never eat Sushi for lunch. Sure it's nice and you feel healthy and full when you are finnished. It's a chimère though. 2hrs later and you WILL be starving. There is also loads of sugar in the marinade for the rice.

Did you know that Sushi means marinated rice? It does. Sashimi on the other hand means raw fish.

I'm sticking to player matches. People are always far nicer in them than the idiots in the ranked ones... and this goes for most 360 games. So many idiots out there. But with your friends in a player match, this game is a joy.

Shame there aren't the clan options, hopefully they'll come.

You learn something new every day.

Oh man, the trolls are going to have to multi-task today

A Good Review.

A let down on the clan thing, I only play pc games online with clans I'm in as I'm so sick of online retards, so I can understand how you feel, moreso as it's heavy reliant team play, akin to the likes of DoW on the pc.

Hopefully most of those issues will be fixable with a reworked stats/drop system and possibly how points are accumulated.

I should add that I spent several hours playing unranked games last night with friends and it was the most fun I've had on Xbox Live since I got my 360. I've gotten bored with every other game after a few rounds, but this held my interest all the way through.

It's a shame that they seem to have made a pigs ear out of the ranked matches system, and that there's no clan support, but the experience I had last night surpassed all my expectations.

P.S. I agree with the singleplayer review 100%.

Interesting. My multiplayer impressions, written earlier today, based on a mere two games so far -

"I jumped into a quick ranked match and chose to be on the side of the locusts. (As is the way of things, they look much, much cooler than the good guys. Less armour, more cloth, great big teeth and terrible skin. I think I want to be one when I grow up.) We started off outside an old house that had seen better days. The kind of spooky, ruined house kids would dare their friends to walk up to and just touch - because entering would be unthinkable, even in daylight.

And it was raining. And somehow, despite being almost devoid of colour, the house, the cloth flapping from my teammates' waists and the rain all added up to one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a videogame.

It was - and I really don't say this lightly - it was up there with leaving the castle in the Ico demo and walking out into the sunlight.

Then we were off, running towards the house. I followed a teammate, but lost him, found myself alone. Using cover, moving slowly, hearing firefights far off, inside the house. Unintentionally, I'd come up to the enemy from behind. Not sure if I killed anyone that first round, but I helped.

Soon I'd discovered I had a shotgun and I'd learned the layout of the small but perfectly-formed map. Two very important things.

I worked with a teammate to take down a sniper crouching behind an old sofa at the top of some stairs. I didn't have my headset, so I couldn't speak, but it's one of those games where you don't really need to. You know what needs to be done and you do it, instinctively working together.

The sides were evenly matched in numbers, but not skill, and my team won the match, getting to five wins first. I was the worst player on my team, but not by a lot and I got enough kills and downs to feel pretty pleased with myself.

It was glorious. I want to remember that match for ever.

The second match couldn't and didn't live up to it. Firstly, it took me about five minutes to get into another match. Then it was two against four and I was one of the two, which really showed up my weakness - the primary one being a weakness to chainsaws being forced into the back of my head. It was still great fun - the one kill I did get felt like a real victory - but it didn't reach the same heights. It was a first-to-ten wins match and after the first couple of rounds it was obvious how each round was going to go. I did feel some comradeship with my single teammate, though, and by the last couple of rounds we were really working well together. (The map wasn't as good, either, for the record. Just a square room with spawn points either end and various bits of cover lying around.)

You may have noticed that I've not mentioned lag. Simple reason - there wasn't any that was visible to me in either match. End of story."

The main point being, as someone currently headsetless I enjoyed the fact that it's possible to, effectively, communicate in-game with your teammates. Like I never felt the need to say anything when playing Counter Strike, beyond the odd quickly-typed "sorry" or "oops" or "cheers, bye".

As I say, though, first impressions only. I'll see how I feel after more play - though hoepfully I'll get my headset back some time today.

Tonka: I agree about the Sushi, it's a health risk.

If you want a better lunch you should take a look at some brown rice which fills you up for hours. Or maybe you should look at some pasta, though here you need to make sure it is made with the slower kind of carbs.

The multiplayer isn't marked down based on idiots, it gets the 8 because Epic didn't implement a way to *stop* the idiots. Clan matches and so on would make this an awesome multiplayer experience, but right now it's a teenage dementia city...

Oh yeah, there's a bug where you can't hear people who join unranked games midway through. If you don't join at the pre-game lobby stage then no one can hear you speaking. A pretty unforgiveable bug really...

If you dont have a headset will you still hear the teens?

/Reserves yet more hours tonight to suck this up along with the R:FOM thread :)

Without the headset you do hear people - I had to mute one guy last night in my brief play. He was playing fine, but just singing nonsense in a high-pitched voice the entire time.

Before this point gets lost in the malaise - this is fantastic fun when you get a keenly contested match between two well-drilled teams. But you'd have to be blind deaf and dumb not to point out the issues that I, and probably thousands of others are having with it right now.

Anyone from this thread fancy a sensible team based game tonight?

If so my gamertag is: SEF

We can get together some eurogamer teams and play it properly!

I'm not sure about the validity of including peoples online behaviour in a review. After all the biggest weakness with online gaming is usually the human element - which is exactly why many of us only play games with people on friends lists.

krudster: Mark it down for other people? That's a very patchable offense you know.

MMUK: Try clans. Try offering all vs all deathmatch. Try giving % of DNF stats so you can avoid quitting retards. Try giving instant point penalties to users that host and quit. Try a quickmatch system that takes you straight into the lobby.

There are plenty of easy solutions of fixing what's wrong with this.

I'm sorry for the unoriginal comment, but lol (again.)

Please people. Lets try and keep this thread in good order, if only to show the outside world that gamers aren't all hormonal f'kwits with binary mood controls.

So who has played this online so far?
How did your experience line up with Kristans (no doubt it differed slightly, thats life, no-one is wrong ok)?
Has anyone had a ranked match that WASN'T full of annoying kids?

Is there co-op online BTW? Maybe you mentioned it (or its absence) in one of the reviews Kristan, but my eyes aren't what they used to be (they used to be ears, ahahahaha... sorry /fires self).

@Clive Dunn

"I'm not sure about the validity of including peoples online behaviour in a review."

I think it is entirely relevant if it impacts enjoyment and COULD have been controlled by the developer. if you buy a game, and then it turns out to not be fun for whatever reason, you expect the review to tell you about it surely.


@disc

"Mark it down for other people? That's a very patchable offense you know. "

Surely you aren't suggesting that EG staff adjust their review opinions and scores based on what they presume might get patched at some point possibly in the future maybe?

The multiplayer isn't marked down based on idiots, it gets the 8 because Epic didn't implement a way to *stop* the idiots. Clan matches and so on would make this an awesome multiplayer experience, but right now it's a teenage dementia city...

I doubt that you will find many game in the near future with those elements. Trueskill system. It doesn't allow things like groups. But both epic and ms said that they are working on it. I really think that ms should take a look at it's system. leaderboards/scores < fun with parties & clans.

All in all, fair enough. You can't judge something on what it will be but what it is (even though stuff like H2 went from good to fantastic by means of patches and upgrades later on).

At least GOW is a big enough title that patches and improved online matchmaking are a definite possibility. Smaller titles often suffer from lack of post-release support, but I can't see that happening here.

Gears of war 8 my hamster!


Great game, 8 or not. (actually 9.5 average and 14th best game of all time on gamerankings.com so far!)

"The controls, while by no means perfect and easy to get tangled in knots with, at least attempt new things that have a major impact on how multiplayer games play out."

sounds like the eurogamer crew are just fuckin crap at the game basically!!!

gears shits on ALL shooters!!!!

14th best game of all time on gamerankings.com

What a depressing statistic.

If this is the 14th best game ever, I'm Jesus.

Had my first single AND multiplayer goes on this last night and it's absolutely rock solid multiplayer. In fact it's about bloody time a LIVE game came out for the 360 with good solid kick ass netcode as good as Halo 2's. No hassle joining a game, getting into it and it looks as good multiplayer as it does in single player.

I'm just hoping UT2007 gets a release on the 360 too...

Peej

If you are new to EG and are surprised about the score here are some guides for you:

1. Football Manager = 10/10
2. Zelda = 10/10
3. FPS game on non PC platform capped to 8/10
4. Xbox (or 360) exclusive games get -1 score penalty
5. Gamecube (or Wii) exclusive games get +1 score modifier

you get the drift ... :P

This is a crime how on earth did MGS 3 Subsistance rank 21 places behind MGS2. :/

...oops off topic.

"14th best game of all time on gamerankings.com "

Just shows what a sack of bollox gamerankings actually is.

It sets out to compare all games as if they were the same, and simply demonstrates that assumption is fatally flawed.


@hula hoops

Well done, you qualify for membership of the "I don't understand it so it must be wrong" club.

There is an Indian restaurant not far from my office. I go there maybe 2 times a week. I love their food and it keeps me full for a long time. But it also makes me drowsy. Could it be that stuff they put in the rice?

The reason I'm thinking this is because I once had some fried rice with lotus buds in it. It made so relaxed I couldn't be bothered to move for 2 hrs. My hands went all warm and fuzzy to. It was great.

Anyways, indian food with Nan keeps you full.
Sushi won't.

Beware of the sushi. I also find it a bit distressing to order food from a girl in a restaurant that smells of raw fish.

My copy of Gears is lying next to me on my desk and I can swear that Feicks guy is smirking at me.