Final Fantasy X Comments by Tom Bramwell

You do it otto, I'll go make a sign meanwhile.

[Super Stu] - 19-Jun-2002
I mean, if we applied this theory to Wonderbra they'd go out of business in 30 seconds flat (sic).


I don't get it? What does wanderbra falsely advertise? Aren't the bra's they advertise the same as those they sell? Or do they show a picture of a bra in the box they sell them and when you open it there is only half a bra in it?

I personally feel there should be a little badge that has to be legally worn along the lines of...

"We will not be held responsible for any damage to enthusiasm due to lack of anything that may or may not be contained therein, nor do we guarantee exact size lift or shape defined by sneaky construction methods"

Although I was only joking when I brought the legality of inaccurate screenshots, kicking up a stink could result in better conversions, or it could result in Square simply showing screenshots WITH massive borders.

The latter the more likely of the two, probably.

Current PCs are able to render the FF movie in realtime 24fps.

Hmm, is this "George 4" card something new?

"Current PCs are able to render the FF movie in realtime 24fps."

I read the article, but they do fail to mention at what resolution its all being rendered at, not to mention scenes with lotsa particle effects and explosions. To think that even next gen PC's would be able to render something like FF: The Spirits Within on the fly is a great exagerration. Certain scenes, probably, but not the whole thing. No way.

Current PCs are able to render the FF movie in realtime 24fps.

Except the article doesn't tell you what features are implemented... e.g. anti-aliasing and co.

"Current PCs are able to render the FF movie in realtime 24fps"

No they can't. I've seen the demo in action, and while it's very impressive, it's not the same as the movie by a long shot. The level of detail in the character skins wasn't as high and the backgrounds were very much simplified from what I remember.

Oh, and the demo I saw was just one scene from the movie, with Aki and the old geezer talking about something in a control room of some kind.

Par:

I don't get it? What does wanderbra falsely advertise? Aren't the bra's they advertise the same as those they sell? Or do they show a picture of a bra in the box they sell them and when you open it there is only half a bra in it?

Have you never removed a wonderbra from a female and then wondered where the objects of desire have gone?

It's a joke! Do you see?

So it wouldn't be Wonderbra, but rather the woman that could be sued beause of "false advertising".

Gents, gents... it's a bloody joke! And one I thought was well known.

Stop fucking complaining u whiney fuckers...it's a great game with good story and excellent gameplay...the borders and voice etc and all the shit you are complaining about dont mean nuthin..as long as the gameplay etc is good..which it is

Bought this in the Virgin Megastore sale yesterday - looks very good and the opening attack by Sin is awesome. I don't find the borders spoil my enjoyment of the game much at all. By far the worst part is the shoddy voice acting - the bit right at the beginning where Tidus talks to all his fans is cringeworthy.

And why oh why do we in England / Australia / Canada / wherever else speaks English have to put up with American accented voices? It makes Tidus sound like a twat.

I absolutely agree. This is the main reason I switch off voices whenever I can. If they spend so bloody long localising the game for PAL markets then why can't they localise the languages too? *All* the languages, mind you, including English which I believe is a minority language spoken in one or two places around the world.

About the only game I can think of (or rather, that I own) that has both US and UK English languages is Giants: Citizen Kabuto on the PC. I've not yet tried it with the American voices, but the English English voices and humour really do make the game more enjoyable. FFX voices are just an irritation that spoils an otherwise pretty good game (so far!).

Bought this in the Virgin Megastore sale yesterday

How much was it? Virgin's website has it up for £49.99! :-o

Stu- dont worry, I knew what you were getting at :-)

But I dont think it is false advertising- you see, in the words of Ali-G (possibly), they are called WonderBra because once you take them off you 'wonder where the breasts have gone' ;-)

Blerk - It was £34.99 at Virgin in Leeds. They have got loads on sale - Wipeout Fusion was £19.99 and ICO was £29.99. I could've spent loads, but the Missus would've killed me...

Ahem...*cough*...er...don't know how to start...*cough*...must make confession...ahem...will lose my credibility...*cough*

I just can't tell you. *cough*

Go on, spill the beans...

This isn't about the Wonderbra thing is it? ;-)

Maybe he's bought an Xbox?

Posted this before the lunch break, to raise the tension. Well, yesterday I was accidentally hanging around in front of a big electronics market, when suddenly I got knocked out from behind and became unconscious only to realize when waking up that someone must have stuffed a copy of FFX into my bag while robbing € 60. True Story! I would NEVER have bought it. NO. Not with the PAL borders and my despise for the whole FF franchise!

So what, I thought, now that you've got it, you can give it at least a try, and I tell you I am even enjoying it. A little bit. Aaargh. I think I suffer from split personalities.

"I am even enjoying it. A little bit."

Good for you! I remember being really sceptical about RPGs for ages and I just refused to buy them. I suppose it was kind of a feeling that I wouldn't enjoy the genre and not wanting to be thought of as a Dungeons&Dragons / Games Workshop type.

But then someone persuaded me to try Final Fantasy VII, and it remains one of the finest games I've ever played.

To be honest, I play RPGs for quite some time now, and FFX - from what I've seen so far- isn't an RPG according to my definition. In some respect, nearly every videogame is an RPG if you give the term RPG a wide definition. In Half-Life, for instance, you play the role of Gordon Freeman, but you can't change anything really. The more possibilities you have to develop your character, decide what to do in which order, etc., the closer you get to a narrow definition of "RPG". As FFX seems to be incredible linear and I feel a little bit like I only have to press "x" once in a while to push the game forward, it's really only an RPG if you use the a rather wide definition. Not that it really matters, I am enjoying it as it is, but not as an RPG.

And I am (pleasantly) surprised that FFX is rather relaxing to play, it has a certain...hm..."calmness" to it which I like.

its generally reguarded as one of the best Final Fantasy games, so if your a fan then it might be worth the money. i simply dont have the time for RPG's anymore so i didnt buy it, plus the PAL conversion is terrible incase you had not already noticed ;)

Is Final Fantasy Worth buying? Im not sure i should spend £40. Is it better than Final Fantasy VII, VIII

It's difficult to know whether you're going to like FF games before you try them. I was very sceptical of the whole idea before I tried FF VII (because it was cheap - on Platinum) - and I still think it is one of the best games I have ever played.

If you want to start out cheap, then get either VII or IX as both of them are significantly better than VIII. And be warned that these games take on average 40+ hours to complete - you will need to devote significant amounts of your life to playing them. But it's worth it. :-)

So...coming back to this thread then people ;-) what do we think of this, borders aside?

Well, I am basically a newbie to the FF series, having played only a bit of FFVIII on my PC. I bought FFX more because I needed ANYTHING new at the time, and as my expectations were low, I was rather pleasantly surprised. The main character is a pain in ass (due mainly to the HORRIBLE, repeat: HORRIBLE voice-acting), the game is interrupted more than it should be, there is no freedom at all, but somehow, in the end, it IS fun, especially the battles, for a while at least. Having played about 25 hours tho, I am now "stuck". Not stuck in the sense that I don't know what to do, but I am bored now. I will always prefer western-style RPGs, I guess. AND I was a bit disappointed by the FMVs. It think Blizzard's videos are ahead of Square's, frankly.

Well judging by the singular response we can conclude no bugger is playing it!

I've beaten it, great game. The "openess" comes towards the end, where you can go whereever you wish.

Well that's TWO people then...

;-)

I will play it, but I haven't bought a copy yet. I'm a skinflint and won't buy one at full price. Besides, I'm too busy with Suikoden 2. :-)

Blerk, it's a little tempting, but like I said earlier in June, I can't justify the re-purchase of a PS2 just for FFX, even though I think I'd like to play it. Oh, and maybe another tinker with GT3, but that's about it.

I will play it, but I haven't bought a copy yet. I'm a skinflint and won't buy one at full price. Besides, I'm too busy with Suikoden 2. :-)

Ooooh, haven't played that one, the first one was GREAT though. Is the second one as good? The third one was release in J-Land last week and did fairly good considering Mario bulldozed everything else.

FFX - I like it so far, but I agree the voice acting is not good. The old FFs VII to IX were just as entertaining without it and it was nice to let the player put a bit of their own imagination into the game.

I agree with Lou that the FMV sequences don't make you go *wow* like they used to on the old Playstation - I suppose that's just a factor of the rest of the game looking so good that they don't really stand out any more.

Worth getting not least because of the sheer number of hours of entertainment it provides - you've got about 4 times the longevity of MGS2 with this for the same price.

I don't really see where all the complaints for the voice-acting come. I didn't mind it at all. Oh well, up to the individual I guess. The FMV gets better the further into the game you come.

The FMV gets better the further into the game you come.

Cool! Clearly I must devote more of my life to playing this game and getting a move on through it! :-)

Maybe I was a bit too harsh on the FMV before - the sequences are still fantastic to look at and I still really love this game as much as the best of the old Final Fantasies.

For the voices I would just liked to have had English English voices instead of American. That's how Cloud, Squall and Zidane all spoke in my head and I just feel with Tidus a little bit of the personal involvement with the character has been lost.

I still love this game and almost don't want to finish it because it's going to be a long wait for XII...

BTW Blerk, I hope you've seen Unlimited SaGa.

Ooooh, haven't played that one, the first one was GREAT though. Is the second one as good?

It was better - honestly! Finished it over the weekend without too many problems, and saw two of the four endings so I think I did okay. Hope we get the third game over here now....

BTW Blerk, I hope you've seen Unlimited SaGa.

Yup, but thanks for the link - a few piccies there that I hadn't seen before. I've still got SaGa Frontier 2 sat here in my box o' games waiting to be played. No time at the minute, though - I just started Legend of Legaia so that I can be sure to get through it before 'Legaia - Duel Saga' arrives in the Autumn.

So many RPGs, so little time. :-)

So many RPGs, so little time. :-)

So true, I'm thinking about trading away some dodgy Xbox games for some quality RPG's. Hopefully, I'll be getting that job as well.

Hopefully, I'll be getting that job as well.

We're all rooting for ya, skal! :-)

Just came back from the interview, the chances are good he said...

Err in short not all TVs support 60Hz but all PAL TVs support the 50Hz option.

FFx has a second disk??? can u buy it in america or on ebay?
I'm very interested ^_^