Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires Review

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Version tested: PlayStation 2

Some things are to be expected; there won't be any milk in the fridge on Sunday morning - or if there is it'll have gone off. Other things are predictable; go to the pub without a coat and by last orders it'll be pissing down outside. Then there are certainties; every few months, the Koei sausage machine will crimp off another game featuring massed battles fought by ancient oriental warriors - each new release completely indistinguishable from the last to the casual bystander. And what's this? Displaying a regularity rivalled only by the chairman of the Prune Marketing Board's bowel movements, it's Dynasty Warriors 5: Empires.

Tempting as it was to present this review simply as a series a spot-the-difference screengrabs cherry-picked from random previous instalments and the latest edition, that wouldn't do. No, because while many gamers would rather click on one of those "Shoot the duck and win a prize!" banners than follow a link to a review of a new Dynasty Warriors game, the series does have quite an army of fans. And seeing as you did click on that review link, there's a good chance that includes you.

As the hardcore will know, Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires is actually the sequel to Dynasty Warriors 4: Empires, rather than a spin-off from either DW5 or DW5: Xtreme Legends. The Empires games have a greater emphasis on the tactical gameplay elements, and the idea here is to take control of all China, one territory at a time.

'Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires' Screenshot 1

Undermanned? By Dynasty Warriors' standards, ten soldiers is nothing.

So what's different this time? As we've come to expect, very little. It's more a case of what's new. For instance, there are now 25 new 'battle policies', bringing the total number of these strategic choices to 75. DW4: Empires had one fictional and one historical scenario to choose from, but now there are also four unlockable fictional scenarios. More numbers? OK, if you insist. There are 48 playable characters, and 20,000 possible combinations in the create-a-character section, although that's a rather creative use of statistics - don't expect to craft a character in your own image unless you happen to look like one of the cast of Monkey.

But enough of the numbers for now - what of the actual games? Well, it's Dynasty Warriors, innit? You begin by picking a starting point on the territory map, then embark on your quest to take over every region within 100 turns. To take a region you need to go into battle (and win), and from here on it's like déjà vu all over again. The franchise's Big Thing has always been the large number of enemies on screen at once. That would be OK, except that there are only about five polygons left over to build the environments from. To mask the fact that there's nothing to see, it doesn't show you what's not there by shrouding everything in the thickest fog since the great London pea-souper of 1952.

'Dynasty Warriors 5 Empires' Screenshot motson

Like a medieval John Motson, the commentary keeps you updated during battles.

If a sandwich analogy was to be used to describe how the battles and the strategic stages fit together, you might expect the fighting to be described as the 'meat', with the strategy parts portrayed as the 'bread'. But that's where you'd be wrong, because that would suggest the fighting is the good bit, when really the action sequences are as bland as a loaf of white-sliced. In fact, if such an analogy were to be employed, DW5: Empires could be described as a bread sandwich. Mmm! Tasty.

Even though there are various combos to be pulled off during the bust-ups, it really does just come down to frantic stabbing of the buttons to keep your warrior flailing and thrusting his way through the assembled bad boys - same as it ever was. The tactical phases have a bit more to offer, as you make decisions as to which territories to conquer, and how and where to station your growing troops and resources.

If you've played a Dynasty Warriors game before, you'll already know whether this is your cup of green tea. If you haven't, the good news is that it's a bit cheaper than a full-price game at £29.99, making it a slightly more alluring prospect than it would otherwise be. Meanwhile, Dynasty Warriors obsessives can be sure they're getting something as comfortingly familiar as the delicate aroma of their own dribble-infused pillow.

5 / 10

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Comments (17) Latest comment 6 years ago

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  • Tejstar #1 6 years ago

    How long will this franchise go on for? They're all the same in my eyes...
  • BlackANUS #2 6 years ago

    It amazes me that they keep making more and more of these games...which means that yes, people are out there who will buy more and more of these games thinking "Dynasty Warriors 5? Oh fawk where is my credit card? I gotta get that one!"

    Much like the Tomb Raider series...
    Edited by 1 at 11/07/06 @ 08:33
  • Hog-lumps #3 6 years ago

    the good news is that it's a bit cheaper than a full-price game at £29.99, making it a slightly more alluring prospect


    But if its identical, then surely you're better off picking one of the originals in the bargain bin for even cheaper..................?
  • Domstercool #4 6 years ago

    Guess it depends if you are buying the 360 version or not since that's the only one on the console at the moment. You can get the 360 version for £25
    Edited by 1 at 11/07/06 @ 09:14
  • M_Diggitty #5 6 years ago

    Hey, this Tony fella done wrote good.
  • bauhaus #6 6 years ago

    Its better than Fifa

    I like DW5, hours of gameplay, in a repetative, claw inducing fashion
  • Mox #7 6 years ago

    Still not quite Streets of Rage in 3D then.
  • Tomo #8 6 years ago

    "...present this review simply as a series a spot-the-difference screengrabs cherry-picked from random previous instalments and the latest edition..."

    Arf... should've gone for it! Would have been very amusing.
  • Kami #9 6 years ago

    DW4: Empires was a step in the right direction, and despite its limitations, was good fun (Moreso than the series proper).

    It breaks my heart that the masters of complacency have pretty much done the same thing with the Empires spin-off (Though it doesn't actually surprise me in the least). There's potential here... but I think we're all able to admit by now the only way that potential will ever be used is if Koei hand the game over to someone else to develop...
    Edited by 1 at 11/07/06 @ 11:38
  • toy_brain #10 6 years ago

    Not going to argue with the review score even though I am a fan. Some people like its mindless action and mild stratergy, some dont. I can see why people would get bored of it easily, but I'm not one of them.

    The one thing that has made me appreciate the DW games even more though, is seeing other companies attempt to copy the idea and get it wrong.
    Devil Kings was a nice effort but its battles were just too linear, Drakengard had some decent combat ideas with different enemies needing different approaches, but the onscreen enemy count was cack, Spartan: TW had the tech but the gameplay was often really frustrating, and Kingdom Under Fire just plain felt 'wrong'.

    Personally I'd like to see Koei take another shot at Crimson Sea, because they definately seemed to be going in the right direction with CS2, they just need to bring some aspects of the gameplay a little closer to the DW games and it would be almost perfect.
  • Kami #11 6 years ago

    Problem is, DW hasn't progressed much at all.

    In this case, for many of us, familiarity is breeding contempt...
  • miiiguel #12 6 years ago

    I'm new to the series, but I liked it a lot.
  • Machetazo #13 6 years ago

    I found my first Dynasty game, DW4 (Xbox) quite a lot of fun - Is now a sound time to revisit the series, or hasn't it changed much from 4?
  • SeesThroughAll #14 6 years ago

    I found my first Dynasty game, DW4 (Xbox) quite a lot of fun - Is now a sound time to revisit the series, or hasn't it changed much from 4?

    Dynasty Warriors never had anything to do with the concept of change.
  • toy_brain #15 6 years ago

    "I found my first Dynasty game, DW4 (Xbox) quite a lot of fun - Is now a sound time to revisit the series, or hasn't it changed much from 4?"

    It would probably be best to hold out untill the next Samurai Warriors game. I'm not sure if SW2 is coming to any other console than PS2, but I think there is an 'Empires' SW game in the works and that is coming to 360 and PS2.

    As the Samurai Warriors games are made by the same team as DW they play just as well, but have the advantage of more distinct enemy types, a completely different line-up of characters (to the DW games), more demanding mission-objectives, and slightly more interesting level-design.
    They should also benefit from any technological advances made in DW5 (better draw distance and enemy count).

    I think SW2 is out over here September-ish.
  • Machetazo #16 6 years ago

    Thanks for the advice, brain. I'll follow it, and look forward to playing SW2 in Sept. According to GS, the game will be released for PS2 and Xbox 360.
    Edited by 1 at 11/07/06 @ 18:19
  • bloodflowers #17 6 years ago

    Bought this, completed it, enjoyed it. It's actually quite a bit different in reality to the non-empires version. While the running around and hacking people stuff is very similar, giving commands to the army makes a significant difference to the outcome, and the strategy-lite stuff inbetween can have a huge effect on how long it takes to win the war.

    Unfortunately, as usual there's a flaw in that if you play right, you can turn your main general into a human killing machine - which breaks the strategy element during actual battles. Also - why the hell does it have any slowdown at all? The PS2 versions didn't, and they drew better scenery. I'll chalk that down to the "wonderful" (see: shitty) new age of high definition laming.