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Diplomacy Review

PC Review by Oliver Clare

28 November, 2005

I've got a few ideas for PC games that I'd like to run past you. They are all conversions of classic board-game favourites with an added twist. The first concept is a streamlined software version of Monopoly in which all the properties on the board cost the same amount to buy, and generate exactly the same amount of rent. Sound tempting? Okay, how about a PC incarnation of Chess without those fiddly pawns? No? A slimmed-down virtual Cluedo with only two suspects and two weapons? Surely you'd buy that?

No, of course you wouldn't. Classic board-games are classics for a reason. Ripping out important elements is likely to end in tears. Paradox's Diplomacy proves this all too well.

Jaw-jaw not war-war

The board-game on which this title is based is (and this is a very crude description) a kind of multiplayer chess played on a stylised map of early Twentieth Century Europe. The genius is the emphasis placed on negotiation between players. To have any chance of surviving and winning you have to befriend and sometimes betray your playmates. Whispered deals are struck in quiet corners between turns - I'll support your invasion of Italy if you transport my armies over to England. Let's both hit France at the same time then split the spoils. Unit orders are then written down secretly and exposed and executed simultaneously.

The problem with Paradox's interpretation of this wonderful concept is that it provides no means whatsoever for conducting sophisticated negotiations. In a misguided attempt to overcome a largely non-existent language barrier, the devs have rejected the most obvious communication mechanism - private text or voice chat - implementing instead a horribly primitive 'move proposal' system. Rather than chinwagging freely with a fellow player, you are forced to go through a laborious procedure of plotting the desired move (using your friend's forces where necessary) and then sending this plan over to him or her for approval. The problem with this is that you can't explain why you want to do something and you never know quite why a scheme has been turned-down. It's basically, 'Please do this during the next move' or nothing.

By stripping most of the subtlety out of deal-making, Paradox seriously sours multiplay. A disappointment but not a disaster; there's always single-player isn't there? Yes there is, but the solo mode has its discouraging weaknesses too.

Make your own luck

'Diplomacy' Screenshot 1

How did the Kaiser lose that eye? A hat accident most probably

Before we look at those, here's a bit more information about how Diplomacy works. As mentioned earlier, the play arena is a patchwork of European regions. Most of these are already under the ownership of one of the seven playable powers (Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Russia, Austria, and Turkey) at the start of the game; a few contain the crucial supply centres that determine victory and enlarge (by one unit per centre) your armed forces. There are only two types of military units in the game (armies and fleets) and both of these are of equal combat strength. Driving an enemy unit out of a territory is simply a question of overwhelming it. No electronic dice are ever rolled. An offensive involving two attackers will always cause a single unsupported defender to retreat.

There's a bit more complexity to the rules than this (fleets can be used to transport armies across sea zones for instance) but basically that's it. Considering this core simplicity and the limited number of territories on the board, you'd think creating a proficient AI would be relatively easy. It obviously isn't that easy because what Paradox has come-up with is passable but hardly Deep Blue. Most of the time CPU-controlled nations operate without much rhyme or reason, or character. Uniformly aggressive, they rarely defend their supply centres that well or work together sensibly. Often it's possible to win without talking to or co-operating with your neighbours at all. Diplomacy without diplomacy. That can't be right.

Constipated commanders-in-chief

'Diplomacy' Screenshot 2

The Turks react badly to yet another EC application rejection.

When the game's omissions and weaknesses are viewed besides some of its more frivolous graphical features you are definitely left wondering whether the designers had their priorities right. In few strategy titles is a zoom-able, pan-able 3D map less necessary than it is here. The animated leaders that pop-up at different times don't look all that bad, but they sound as mad as hares. Their bizarre grunts and coughs are the kind of thing you'd expect to hear emanating from a toilet cubicle rather than a smoky oak-panelled conference room.

There are positives to the game, but they are not the kind of thing you could build an advertising campaign around. Documentation and accessibility are excellent by today's standards. If you've ever wrestled with other Paradox titles like Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron, or Victoria then Diplomacy will seem very friendly in comparison. Those with previous Paradox experience will also know that the devs tend to stick around for years tweaking their projects with numerous patches. Come back in twelve month's time and this game might well have a private chat facility and an AI that can run rings round an average player. Then again, it might not.

Not our diplomatic bag

Ultimately, it's very hard to recommend Diplomacy. If you are looking for a multiplayer version of the classic board-game you're almost certainly better-off going to community sites like www.diplom.org and exploring some of the free Play-By-EMail options (bewilderingly Paradox have chosen not to include a PBEM or a hot-seat mode). Not only do these offer superior negotiating possibilities, they are also a lot more variant-friendly (Dip like Chess has been adapted into many different forms). Of course, by far the best way to experience Diplomacy remains the old face-to-face option.

Now, before you dash off, can I interest you in a copy of my new PC Scrabble Lite? It's the board-game that you know and love minus those irritating zeds, 'x's and 'q's. Buy two and I'll even throw in a free edition of Quick Pictionary (pictures come pre-drawn) or Turbo Ludo (the virtual dice have six dots on every face).

4/10

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Yossarian
28/11/05 @ 15:36
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better than that Sims expansion and FIFA 2006 combined, then
jellyhead
28/11/05 @ 16:13
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So Yossarian, let me see if I've got this straight.
In order to be grounded, you've got to be crazy and you must be crazy to keep flying. But if you ask to be grounded, that means you're not crazy any more and you have to keep flying?
Harlequeen
28/11/05 @ 16:18
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I used to love playing Dip and Macciavelli, but Diplomacy without Diplomacy is like Football without a ball, pointless.
President Weasel
28/11/05 @ 16:27
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shame. Diplomacy as a computer game was a promising idea, too.
afray
28/11/05 @ 16:28
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bengalibengali -- you have Mario Kart DS? And you like it?! Wow! If only you had given us some hint of this relevation before. Maybe every three comments in every other thread would have done it. Oh well. :-/
vane101
28/11/05 @ 16:32
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Eurogamer got this right but then it's not a 360 game! :) When I played Diplomacy we spent more time trying to strike up deals away from the board than we did actually sitting around it.

No point having cpu opponents either. Better to have as suggested private channels to communicate with other players over the net. That wwould work
Eldritch
28/11/05 @ 16:47
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The demo bored me out of my wits.
Dizzy
28/11/05 @ 16:48
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Yeah.. just get the amazing boardgame version and play over the internet. Diplomacy has a rather large group of followers.
Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 16:59
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I guess it's been a diplomatic decision towards Microsoft to quickly remove the FIFA review from the main page. Well done Eurogamer, you keep earning a medal after another in the book of journalism integrity.
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28/11/05 @ 16:59
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Is it me or has the 'roadkill' review disappeared? I can't even seem to find it by searching (e.g. for 'Fifa').

Let's hope EA haven't gone and done something they'll regret...
Aretak
28/11/05 @ 17:00
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Why has the FIFA review gone from the main page? Have EA sent you a nice fat cheque? Will it be back with a 9/10 score?
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Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 17:01
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No Aretak, it's still in the database. If you search by FIFA, then look at the one with a 2/10, it's there.
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Aretak
28/11/05 @ 17:04
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No, it was a few minutes ago -- now it brings up a 404 Error page.
gaijin
28/11/05 @ 17:05
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yup. Listing's there, score's there... review is awol.

I reckon BengaliB's hidden it in the hope that everyone will go read his Mario Kart review instead.
Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 17:06
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The score is there, but the review is gone, it's true. They have re-linked to a first impressions of the current gen FIFA 2006.
Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 17:07
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And now the review score is gone, with a big "game not reviewed" caption.
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gaijin
28/11/05 @ 17:09
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wot larks Pip, wot larks!
Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 17:11
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It's 1984 up-in-your-arse made by Winston Smith-Eurogamer with parts manufactured by Microsoft Corporation and Electronic Arts... how nice.
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botherer
28/11/05 @ 17:24
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"I guess it's been a diplomatic decision towards Microsoft to quickly remove the FIFA review from the main page. Well done Eurogamer, you keep earning a medal after another in the book of journalism integrity."

Oh, what a lovely human being you must be!

As stated on the forum, the review was put up in error, before the embargo date of Dec 2nd.

So, here's an idea: Next time you want to throw around allegations of corruption, and insult people you don't know, how about putting in, maybe, I don't know, three seconds of effort to check you're not being a MASSIVE BLOWHARD.
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Darkedge
28/11/05 @ 17:25
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sounds like a ripoff of risk
bloke
28/11/05 @ 17:27
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meanwhile - back at Diplomacy...................

It's criminal that (if true) the single player mode doesn't play a good game.

And bonkers that the multiplayer doesn't allow some kind if IM negotication.

BTW, if you've not played it, Dip isn't just a game, it's training for life.

FTF play is fun - but it's difficult to find 7 people dedicated enough to spend a day playing it, particularly as 2 of them will be knocked out in the first 6-7 turns.

That's why the Play-by-email option with daily or weekly turnarounds in the best option. (It also requires more skill this way, as you can't actually see your ally and your enemy scheming away in the corner, as you can FTF).

If Defender is the Daddy of all arcade games, Dip is the Daddy of all board games.

If you are serious about gameplaying in general, you have to give it a try.
bloke
28/11/05 @ 17:31
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"sounds like a ripoff of risk"

I think Dip is older than Risk.

Also, Dip is to Risk like Bridge is to Snap.

Risk can be good after-the-pub fun (throwing all those dice, etc, but ITOH if you've got all those dice why not play Perudo instead) - but Dip is a much purer game where there is no luck, no dice and 2 always beats 1.

The game mechanics are so simple because it's the player interactions which are the game, not really the board and the units.
Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 17:43
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Oh... so now there are embargo dates for reviews of games which are already out in other territories. Didn't know of such practices.

I did miss the comment at the forums, so I apologise to all Eurogamer members who have felt insulted and accused of corruption, I am certainly sorry. I will also use the same terms you have, admitting that i am a MASSIVE BLOWHARD. I am a MASSIVE BLOWHARD who does not read the forums and is always oversuspicious of corporate manipulation of popular media.

Will the review be back December 2nd with the same score and words?
krudster [mod]
28/11/05 @ 17:49
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Yes.
Zuiyo
28/11/05 @ 17:51
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OK that's good to know. I am relieved (no irony).

Xerx3s
28/11/05 @ 18:56
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Whahaha... Fifa sux...god know who keeps buying that crap.

Anyway, risk 4 the win!
Whizzo
28/11/05 @ 19:26
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Diplomacy is one of the best boardgames in existence but it really is best played with people face to face.

If only because stabbing someone in the back* is so much more satisfying when you can see your "ally" realise it's happened.

Of course you can always use the "oh crap I mis-wrote my orders" tactic. :-D



*obviously you can't stab people in the back when you're face to face that easily...
AOFanboi
28/11/05 @ 21:35
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sounds like a ripoff of risk

Yes, a board game with no dice, with a maximum of one unit per area, where unit production is directly tied to control of a few key areas on the map, with simultaneous turns and which depends heavily on inter-player dealmaking must be a Risk clone. The same way Diablo is a Pacman clone since you collect stuff on the ground.

Not to mention Diplomacy was created in 1954 (Britain), and Risk in 1957 (France). Both were commercially released in 1959 though.

Bah, the best computer Diplomacy is play-by-email automated by the Judge.
Sunrise
28/11/05 @ 22:25
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I only knew about Risk, but Diplomacy sounds like a lot more fun.
UncleLou
28/11/05 @ 23:50
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How did the Kaiser lose that eye? A hat accident most probably

:D
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29/11/05 @ 09:52
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As said before, I was bored to near-death with the DEMO. Please if anyone is interested, get the board game. Don't bother with this - it presents NOTHING in the way of being on a new platform and takes away the vital bits.

Which brings me to latest EA Sports offerings for XBox360.

Which brings me to that FIFA review which, sadly, escaped my notice (grrrr). Now I wait for December 2nd, not for the game, but for the review.

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