Crash Nitro Kart Comments by Kristan Reed

Does it compare to Diddy Kong racing on the N64?

Everyone loves Crash.

Bad start! Crash is rubbish. :-)

When I said everyone, I meant the public, clearly not you guys!

Well, it compares in as much as its a template karting game, and it's good fun, so yes. I prefer the DK characters, personally.

Yes. But at least this doesn't have the slowdown issues that DKC had...

No, no slowdown issues of note.

Whens that Bomberman Kart game coming out? Not sure who's developing it, but I know Konami is publishing it.

I thought Nintendos first party cube games were still selling millions - normally eclipsing the sales of multiplatform copycat titles? e.g. SSBM sold shedloads worldwide didn't it?

Bomberman Kart is so bad the publisher refuses to send it to us!

Ninty first party titles sell really well in the US, but disproportionately better there than they do in Europe.

CTR on the PS1 was a great little game - not as good as DKR, but certainly better tham MK64. If I see this one cheap secondhand or in a bargain bin somewhere I'll definitely pick it up, if only for the four-player fun (Oh, that and the fact that I *really* *really* don't want to be made to play the soulless 'Mad Dash Racing' by my kids any more...)

"On that basis, expect sales of the multi-format Crash Nitro Kart to massively surpass the noisily awaited Mario Kart: Double Dash!!, stuck sadly on the fast-fading Cube."

awaited? It's out already. Massively surpass eh? I wouldn't bet on it somehow. Fast-fading Cube eh? Aren't sales supposed to have picked up somewhat recently? N going multiformat, just don't think it would work at all, and I don't think sales would be that good either, all or nothing IMHO.

Any chance of N suing? Surely if any series has been copied (poorly at that) to death it's the Mario Kart one, no?

[/fannyboy mode]

Awaited works in the past tense also.

And it would be a bit late to start sueing kart rip-offs.

Glad to see you got the Cube dig in the first paragraph. Alienate your audience why don't you.

"When I said everyone, I meant the public, clearly not you guys!"

LOL.

This isn't some Cube dig. I made it pretty clear the stats aren't necessarily a good thing.

And if someone wants to bet on CNK not outselling MKDD in the UK, please roll up. Easy money.

Crash is always a bit of a slow starter, but it'll sell and sell and sell for years on end.

Oh gawd, here we go. The *fact* is that the Cube's not doing as well as it should be, that's not a judgement on my part, that's a fact gentlemen. I love the Cube and wish more people would buy it, but they're not.

Before anyone pipes up with any more annoying comments, they might want to check out how badly GameCube software is selling overall in the UK and Europe before flaming me to death.

Looking at the charts, the performance of the fast-fading Xbox isn't much to shout about either. MS to go 3rd party too, as they don't profit but Nintendo does?

Some journalists tend to go for cheap digs - probably Nintendo doesn't care enough for UK sales "to go 3rd party to combat statistical anomalies like this", as in other parts of the world Mario Kart 64 outsold its competitors.

Sounds like a nice enough game - the characters don't appeal as much as Mario et al, but by the sound of it this has a better single player game and loses the 'cheating' CPU cars of MK:DD. Given that the two characters per kart was a bit of a novelty thing in MK:DD anyway, I'm sort of surprised the score isn't higher.

CTR was a pretty fine karting clone on the PS1, so despite the lack of innovation, I reckon this deserves to do well.

Right, Before you start, I have a Cube, I think it is great.

But you can't say that it is selling well can you?

Of course, if these fools had the sense to save up and get all three consoles, they wouldn't be whinging like little kids now, would they?

I'm happy to say I have all three major consoles - means I can pick the best of each console. It also means I get a greater diversity of games to choose from.

Fanboys irritate me personally because you know it's the spoiled (sometimes little) brat who's only ever going to get the one console and wants everyone else to feel inferior about the console they've chosen. The only thing they do is grate the nerve endings of those of us who worked our butts off and saved up the paper stuff who like GAMES.

yes fanboys, it's about the GAMES. Something you don't appreciate in all that console-bashing.

Sony have a huge selection of games, however about 80% of them are easily forgettable and not worth the time. However, the fact remains for me that the PS2 has a larger selection of RPG's available for it, and some very well-known titles to back it up (Silent Hill, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy etc), so it's not going anywhere fast.

Nintendo has always been about the GAME. A lot less games, but to be honest, a lot less crap. Ninty are very good games makers at their best (The fact Ocarina of Time is consistantly voted "best game ever" only demonstrates how good they are). And lets not forget the 'Cube is the cheapest console out there, and theres the ever-potent GBA ensuring Ninty will be around for some time to come.

Microsoft, while newcomers, latched onto a whole new area - Online Console Gaming. And I have to admit, while a lot of the X-Box's games are less than perfect, there are gems and some of those are playable on Live. It's a section that Sony and Nintendo have yet to make ground on, so they're not going anywhere.


Point? NONE OF THESE COMPANIES ARE GOING DOWN ANY TIME SOON! All of them have a grip on a certain area of the market. So WHATS THE POINT of all this console war rubbish?

Fanboys, please shut up, save up, and buy another console, then spend the rest of your lives in shame for the stupid things you said.

*hisssssssssssssssssssssssss*

Ahh, thats so much better. Needed to vent some frustration somewhere.

What Kami said.

Krudster's comment was hardly offensive anyway, he was stating what is pretty much a fact, the GameCube is not selling well.

If you are offended by that then I am forced to the conclusion you are a pathetic little fan'boi' tard...To be honest.

so, not selling well = fast fading does it? Seems a bit odd.

Please, this is the basics for goodness sake get it sorted.

If a console starts shifting about 18 times the rate it did a few weeks ago and then gets called fast fading there's something wrong surely? Poor choice of words IMHO.

The fanbois do love a little rant don't they?

I don't think we need to defend our factual comments on the Cube, the stats do that for us week after week. We're all huge Cube fans here, but no more so than Xbox or PS2 or PC or GBA for that matter.

You see, tardy tard tards, we're game fans here. End of chat.

Heh heh - this one descended into madness too! What do you guys put in the coffee after I go home? :-)

Funny, I've always thought Eurogamer was obviously easier on Nintendo and the Gamecube than the other consoles (as evidenced by Nintendo exclusive reviews). Reviews are subjective, and can reveal bias, whereas in this case he was just statin' the facts, Nintendo isn't doing great in all respects saleswise. Kinda hard to be biased in this case.

The game isn't selling s well as it should be, does it have some sort of certain standards it has to meet here?

Possibly the fact in the recent decrease in the GameCubes price. Not to mention the bundles they're throwing at us. People who have digs at the GameCube are the people who have never actually played one. They've been reduced to PS2 or Xbox fanboys because of the fact the GameCube is another rivalling console so for that reason, they dislike it.

Not saying I don't dislike this game, the orginal CTR was a great game which could be played for hours on end. But with this I don't see anything that makes me want to go buy it. I've scan read the review, so mistake me if I'm wrong but what is entirely new and hasn't been done before here? The graphics, same old same old, The characters, ooh look at that, same old same old.

It's the same old same old over again, the GameCube has one more factor which will turn a few heads. The fact it's double, so in theory, double the fun.

Nightshift Cleaner, if you read it right, I was venting an opinion that I don't believe any console is going to seriously go under any time soon.

And if you weren't such a clear 'tard, you might just actually see a point in there. Each console has it's own little niche market. It's own speciality. 'Cube might be doing poorly, but no-one ever brings up the Game Boy into the equation (Which will never really and truly go away). PS2 might not be the most graphically powerful machine in the market right now, but it's got a reputation and loads of games. XBox hasn't got the best catalog of games, but the online gaming sells it.

Good popints. Bad points. Ups and downs. Swings and roundabouts. (And if you paid attention to the sales figures the last few months, it really HAS been unpredictable) Welcome to the reality of the console market.

Like it or not, none of these companies are ever gonna go away. They have far too much on-the-side to ever go out of business. Truth is, any one of the current consoles could crash out of the market (even PS2, odd as it seems), but each company has enough common sense to have something else to fall back on.

Thats business for you.

Blimey

Er.....!

/steps outside quietly

Er Sid... I think the 'Saddam's PS2 Supercomputer' rumour was generally regarded to be a complete load of bollocks dreamt up by some coke-addled hack desperate to invent a story...

Nightshift Cleaner - I was always referring to the long term sales of CNK over MKDD. Having seen CTR continue to sell for about four years after its initial release, I fully expect this to do the same. And it's multi format, remember.

By the end of next year I reckon it will be a lot clearer than right now. The MKDD sales will tail off very quickly after Xmas, as sad as that may seem.

When my house was broken into last month, they stole everything but the Gamecube. You work it out...

Yeah, fair point. In terms of revenue, we'll never know what outsold what. I wish Charttrack would do game sales on units and value.