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Championship Manager Season 01/02 Review

Xbox Review by Tom Bramwell

6 June, 2002

Anything you can do I can do…

'Championship Manager Season 01/02' Screenshot feb02b

Formations aren't just for show

When you think about football management simulations, which game comes to mind first? Championship Manager. There's no disputing the fact that it's the genre's pinnacle, the very bastion of footy management games, and with each new release it gets even better. The other day we talked about accurate player statistics in Pro Evolution Soccer, but Championship Manger is so thoroughly researched that even in small-print the list of contributors is longer than my arm, and the results it produces are respected not only by fans of the game but fans of the sport.

There are 26 leagues from around the world, and detailed profiles and histories of the more than 100,000 players, managers and coaches that take part in them, and it's into this accurately simulated worldwide sporting industry that you are thrust. Your position as manager allows you to bicker over transfers, tussle with the press and the club's board, and marshal your players as much or as little as you want, delegating aspects of management and coaching to your second in command, or just taking full control and responsibility, giving players individual marking jobs, changing tactics at half time to try and overcome a one goal deficit and resting those vital players during quiet games.

There's no such thing as Game Over, so long as the board is confident in you and the players and fans aren't calling for your head on a stick. Thus the fact that some seasons end in triumph and others in dismal failure is fairly unimportant. You are guiding a team of your choice and your decisions make the difference, and they do so realistically.

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'Championship Manager Season 01/02' Screenshot feb01b

It's not just the big teams...

The game's transition to Xbox has been relatively painless. In fact, there are only two major changes to the CM formula in this Xbox incarnation - the number of leagues you can run concurrently, and the interface. The limitations of processing power require that you manage a maximum of three teams in different leagues during a season, whereas PC owning gluttons for punishment can do the full 26. But how many of you honestly want to manage that many teams? It was an option there for completion's sake more than anything else, with most high-spec PCs struggling to do a good job of it in the first place. Nope, that's not a problem.

The other big change has been to the interface. In the absence of a mouse, the cursor is controlled with the analogue stick, or you can switch directly between menu options using the directional pad. In the absence of a keyboard, you can't edit the stats of the players in the game, but they're so accurate that we can't imagine many reasons to do so besides cheating... Other than that, this is to all intents and purposes Championship Manager Season 01/02. Although some early Xbox reviews this year highlighted a slowdown problem, there is no evidence of this in the release version of the game, and the developer tells us that it was because of a bug - the very bug that subsequently held up the game's release.

It may not differ much in terms of composition then, but how about timing? One of our only worries was that arriving just a few weeks prior to the end of the season, it might seem a little outdated. Most fans of the game have stories to tell about how closely it imitates real life, and if you play through to the end of the 2001-2002 season - and if you buy this it will be something you find it very difficult to pull yourself away from doing - the reality of the situation you face will dawn on you. It's almost spooky the way that the real life Premiership managers yank the same players from the same foreign clubs as they do in the game. A powerful message, too. As you would expect, all the latest competitions (including B-team and Under 21 team competitions), awards, transfer and disciplinary rules (not to mention fines and appeal processes) for the last season are included in the game, just as they were with the PC version, along with the recent EU regulated transfer system. The wage structure is practically perfect, and the role of players' attitudes, personalities and opinions is naturally important, along with those of the national and local media.

Conclusion

So it's thoroughly accurate, an excellent port of a game which was already excellent to begin with, and the only debate is whether or not you should buy this instead of or as well as the PC version. For me, sitting on the comfy sofa downstairs is infinitely preferable to burrowing into my PC hobby hole for hours at a time. Some people are so fanatical about CM that they buy stupidly expensive PCs just to play it; now you can buy a relatively inexpensive console and get the same experience.

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Errol
06/06/02 @ 13:19
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Anyone know how well this has sold (xbox) so far ?
pjmaybe
06/06/02 @ 13:31
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(Sigh) good to see the power of the X-Box being put to good use then. There it is, can shift millions of polys per second and they use it to run a glorified footy spreadsheet package.

Peej
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06/06/02 @ 13:33
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Whaaaat? This got rated higher than Halo?

You... wait a minute, this is an Xbox game. Hmmm.
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06/06/02 @ 13:34
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How can this get a better score than Halo!!!!!!!!!!

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06/06/02 @ 13:35
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It's the best footy game on XBOX and you can't play footy, nnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooo. Dam you Microsoft, bastards.
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06/06/02 @ 13:37
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(Sigh) good to see the power of the X-Box being put to good use then. There it is, can shift millions of polys per second and they use it to run a glorified footy spreadsheet package.

It makes a change to the rest of the 3D shite churned out on consoles these days.
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06/06/02 @ 13:39
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Anyone know how well this has sold (xbox) so far ?
It's number 8 in the Xbox Top 10 according to Charttrack, how well that means in actual sales I don't know.
DodgyG
06/06/02 @ 13:44
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Xbox version runs on the PC equivalent of a minimum database...
DodgyG
06/06/02 @ 13:46
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will the new season be on a cheap update cd?

I doubt it, considering CM4 is due out at Xmas...
Super Stu
06/06/02 @ 13:49
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Will CM4 see the infamous online functionality? I've not been keeping up with CM4 for quite some time now, so if anyone has any tidbits on what we're likely to see.. fire away.
otto [mod]
06/06/02 @ 13:50
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Dont worry. This game will never come close to Halos sales numbers.

I can't be arsed to look it up but I will eat my daughter's soiled nappies if Halo has sold half as many copies as CM in the UK (or even Europe as a whole).
DodgyG
06/06/02 @ 13:51
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It's supposedly going to be a lot quicker online, probably some dedicated servers along the lines of Sky Sports Manager. Sneaky feeling that there will be some sort of subscription based model as well...
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06/06/02 @ 14:02
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"I will eat my daughter's soiled nappies if Halo has sold half as many copies as CM in the UK"

I hope you mean across all formats, because if you're just talking about the Xbox you're going to be having a pretty stinky dinner. ;)
otto [mod]
06/06/02 @ 14:14
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yeah I meant all formats obviously :)
pjmaybe
06/06/02 @ 14:23
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Bet you this would've sold better on PS2 - I mean it's the console MADE for the Beer and Footie brigade. The X-Box is more for sandal-wearing ex-Amiga fans with more money than sex appeal.

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06/06/02 @ 14:26
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The X-Box is more for sandal-wearing ex-Amiga fans with more money than sex appeal

Ho ho ho! They're gonna kill you peej! But you made me laugh. ;-)
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06/06/02 @ 14:52
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"Bet you this would've sold better on PS2"

i'll ignore the other comment...

but it would be so slow on the PS2 it doesn't have pure power that the xbox does it would make the PS2 look puny you can cover up the xbox's better graphics but cm is pure power which the ps2 doesn't have very much of :(
Blerk
06/06/02 @ 15:00
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but it would be so slow on the PS2 it doesn't have pure power that the xbox

It would be slow on PS2 because of the CD access (instead of hard drive) and hence probably not feasible. 'Pure Power' has nothing at all to do with it - the Xbox and PS2 aren't that different in terms of processing, especially on a game like this where there are no flashy graphics.
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06/06/02 @ 15:00
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but it would be so slow on the PS2 it doesn't have pure power that the xbox does it would make the PS2 look puny you can cover up the xbox's better graphics but cm is pure power which the ps2 doesn't have very much of :(

Smiggs, that's pure conjecture. Frankly, I'm not sure if it's well known nor if it is indeed a fair comparison between the Xbox's CPU and that of the PS2. I haven't really looked into the specifics, but I would bet this can of coke next to me at the very least that the PS2's 300mhz RISC processor is hardly a slouch.
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06/06/02 @ 15:16
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`Super Stu' Frankly, I'm not sure if it's well known nor if it is indeed a fair comparison between the Xbox's CPU and that of the PS2. I haven't really looked into the specifics, but I would bet this can of coke next to me at the very least that the PS2's 300mhz RISC processor is hardly a slouch

Have you had your PS2 clocked up last i heard the PS2 clocked at 295mhz. And the reason why the PS2 can't handle Champ Manager is that it doesn't have a hard drive yet to store the fast amount of data.
pjmaybe
06/06/02 @ 15:18
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Doh! Ever wish you hadn't said anything.

Good point, that happy X-Box owner who claimed poverty. I mean there are cheaper hobbies aren't there, like collecting faberge' eggs, investing in Victoria Beckham's pop career, betting on England to win the world cup....

Heh I'm such a beeeatch!

Peej
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06/06/02 @ 15:30
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Successfully knocking one out is not the same as sex appeal, jaa...
otto [mod]
06/06/02 @ 15:33
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Yeah well he appeals to himself. It's a start.
Pirotic
06/06/02 @ 15:41
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Its ironic Amiga ment 'Girlfriend'.. the closest most amiga owners ever got to a real one :)

no wait, i had an amiga... erm... forget that.
Nick [staff]
06/06/02 @ 15:54
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jaa: I don't know you but I already have a picture of quite a studly chap in my head? a/s/l? ;-)
otto [mod]
06/06/02 @ 16:18
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"Of course, a lot of women find that attractive"

They do?? Where are they? :(
Skeeve
06/06/02 @ 17:09
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"And the reason why the PS2 can't handle Champ Manager is that it doesn't have a hard drive yet to store the fast amount of data."

Champ manager is so good a sim precisely because the players database changes and the game is affected by those changes, without a harddrive to store those changes any version you played would be a lobotmised shell of the actual game.
otto [mod]
06/06/02 @ 18:34
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you're a married man too, otto - with a small child and all

must be why I don't notice them then :P
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06/06/02 @ 20:19
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"Bet you this would've sold better on PS2"

When/if the hardrive comes out for PS2 over here they're planning a port. Would be a big market, but pretty pointless if the hardrive is gonna be something like £200. A cm/hardrive package for £100 would be a fairly smart move.

"In other news, Xbox has outsold GameCube in Japan for the second week in a row."

Although sadly about 1/10th the number of that really old, pathetic and quickly fading console with it's piss poor graphics, the PS2. Or Gameboy probably.

Nobby
06/06/02 @ 22:21
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Scum, I was being sarcastic.
Gestalt
06/06/02 @ 22:29
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Give the guy a break, he's American. ;)
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06/06/02 @ 22:39
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"The other day we talked about accurate player statistics in Pro Evolution Soccer, but Championship Manger is so thoroughly researched that even in small-print the list of contributors is longer than my arm"

You do realise that the stats in PES are taken from CM?
Gestalt
07/06/02 @ 07:26
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"Xbox is outselling GC in Japan"

I think it did for one or two weeks, but either just before or just after that it only sold a few hundred units and was getting drubbed by the Wonderswan (oh the indignity). Japanese charts are weird - they all come out at wildly different times, so you might get a chart from one source for last week, and then a couple of days later another one pops up for some time in the middle of May. :-/ Tends to be confusing, so always make sure to check which week the chart is actually for.
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07/06/02 @ 07:28
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This week, sales were at 5,700 for XB and GC about 5400.

Still crap though, isn't it?
skalmanxl
07/06/02 @ 08:06
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Anyone up for verifying this?

They are correct, that was the week before the Xbox got a price cut i Japan.
Blerk
07/06/02 @ 08:06
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XBox 834

I'm guessing that's the 834 people who hadn't heard that the price was dropping the week after. :-)
bystander
07/06/02 @ 08:20
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Actually I think this is a good article on the fundamental design differences between the PS2 and Xbox (which bascially shares PC design principles).

It has good reason's for Sony motivations about designing the PS2 in the way it has been designed.

Whereas IMO the Anandtech article simply seems to diss the PS2 because it isn't a PC and because its a different architecture.

He says that the PS2 doesn't have enough cache, but he's still thinking too much IMO about how the way a PC works. The PS2 has a fundamentally difference design approach and if you look at it from a PC perspective it won't work. Here's an analogy:

Xbox = big buckets (cache) and smaller pipes (bus sizes).

PS2 = small buckets but incredibly large pipes

The Ars-technica article does have examples of how the PS2 should be used, boiling down to the fact that the PS2 has bandwidth to burn, but not internal cache.
Skeeve
07/06/02 @ 10:23
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"When/if the hardrive comes out for PS2 over here they're planning a port."

I bet you, that what they are actually doing is not planning a port and are actually busy doing the next proper version of champinship manager. There would be no point to doing a port for the hd until it had sufficient numbers or until sony gave them a big bag of money.
kissoon
07/06/02 @ 10:33
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"...I appreciate the fact that you try to defend the XBox against slander here--as this place is full of uninformed or anti-Xbox/MS opinions..."

I couldn't agree more.

"...There's so many people stuck so far up Nintendo's ass on these boards that it's ridiculous..."

Again, I couldn't agree more.

Nice to see that this board in not entirely 'owned'.

Cheers,
Errol
07/06/02 @ 10:47
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England Team news -

Butt in for vassel, and Heskey pushed up front. Beckham plays.
Errol
07/06/02 @ 11:06
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Here we go !

Can England give us what we really, really want ?
Jeex
07/06/02 @ 11:13
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Live online coverage of the World Cup here - apparently... ^_^
UncleLou
07/06/02 @ 11:14
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Any bets?

1:2 me says (no flattery included)

edit: good live-ticker: http://sl.sports.com/en/
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mook
07/06/02 @ 12:23
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ingerland!
pjmaybe
07/06/02 @ 12:59
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Hey you'll get no anti-XBOX stuff from me, I'm anti-everything that's a rip off!

And right now the X-Box is!

Peej
UncleLou
07/06/02 @ 13:15
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My congratulations go out to our fish 'n' chips eating fellows.
Whizzo
07/06/02 @ 13:23
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Woohoo!
otto [mod]
07/06/02 @ 13:27
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w00t w00t w00t w00t w00t etc
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07/06/02 @ 13:35
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For all our IT-slang-dyslexics, me included:

w00t!

Use it as an interjection or a celebratory statement! As in...'Hey! I just upgraded my 56k modem to 1.1 SDSL. w00t! w00t!'. Works every time. True it's an independent clause, but really the best clauses are always independent. w00t.

w00t belongs to gamers the world over. It seems to have been derived from the obselete 'whoot' which essentially is another way to say 'hoot' which itself is a shout or derisive laugh. But others maintain that w00t is the sound several players make while jumping like bunnies in Quake III. Still others want you to believe that it comes from the phrase 'wow loot' used in multiplayer RPGs many moons ago. Fiction or fact? I suppose you'll just have to decide what 'w00t!' means to you...
Pirotic
07/06/02 @ 13:36
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Noooooo.. we won :*( when will this torture stop

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