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PS3 still needs a defining game - Molyneux News
Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese
Lionhead boss Peter Molyneux reckons the PlayStation 3 is still waiting for a console-defining game.
He picked out Wii Sports and Wii Play as those that defined Wii from launch, and even ventured that his own creation, Fable 2, could become a title synonymous with Xbox 360.
"It is always one or two games which define a platform - it's the same for the Wii, and the PlayStation 2," Molyneux told GamesIndustry.biz.
"I think the PlayStation 3 is still waiting for that definition title that represents the platform - and I think that's what hardware manufacturers need to do, find that defining title.
"Nintendo did a brilliant job of doing that at launch with games like Wii Sports and Wii Play - maybe Fable 2 is a defining title. But you are talking to the proud father of this game, so you can't ask me to be tremendously objective," he said.
But there's hope; Molyneux believes LittleBigPlanet - developed by former Lionhead staff and due out a week after Fable 2 - could be the game the PS3 needs.
"If we want to bring people in who haven't played games before, wherever they are in the world and whatever their cultural background, whatever their sex or age, then we've got to think out of the box and start creating stuff which fascinates those people. I think LBP could be one of those," added Molyneux.
Fable 2 is due out exclusively for Xbox 360 on 24th October.
Head over to GamesIndustry.biz for part one of the interview with Peter Molyneux, where he talks about Fable 2 being one of the big hopes for Xbox 360 in Japan.
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Not to poop on his party, but Gears already defined the 360 I think. Fable 2 looks ace though.
LBP could be it, but I'm still waiting to see how much game there is after a week or 2. Platforming is all nice and well, but without goals it might be kinda random and pointless. Agrees on the team Ico game. The whole reason I bought a PS2 was for Ico. Hurry up and show me something one screen, even a freaking idea would be cool at this stage.
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Negotiator
18/09/08 @ 08:31
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"I'd laugh if Fable 2 sucks, because if it does he'll go as silent as Dyack is now."
It won't, trust me, as far as LBP being a defining game I don't think so. 2D games are a step backwards,it's been done to death. |
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seasidebaz
18/09/08 @ 08:38
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Wii = Wii Sports
Xbox360 = Halo PS3 = LBP That's how it works. Fable2 will not move consoles like Halo can. |
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He cunningly ignores Gears and Halo for the 360. I think Gears probably more than Halo defines the 360. Interesting to look at the market in this way as it gives a reflection of the current market too.
Wii - defining game Wii Sports - exceptionally fun inclusive title => Massive sales 360 - defining game Gears - superb game, but lacking in universal appeal => Huge sales PS3 - defining game MGS4 - great game hidden amongst too many cut scenes, again lacks universal appeal => Not so good sales LBP has potential to branch out into more inclusion for the PS3 - it has certain gameplay structures and design which benefits this. I'm not so sure though, some of the elements are more hardcore - create and the core single player gameplay. It's certainly a strong, great looking brand though - and that is something the PS3 needs more of to distinguish it. Actually I tend to disagree that platforms need a defining game at all. Maybe back in the days of the Megadrive and SNES where it was Sonic vs. Mario. The bigger two platforms just need a really good spread of great games across all genres. That is what did it for the PS2. For me the 360 is still doing better in this regard, but the PS3 is coming on stronger now. |
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The PS2 didn't have one single defining game, and that was probably widely regarded as one of its strengths - there was plenty to be had for people with all tastes.
I think LBP has the potential to be a defining game for the PS3 though, for no other reason than that it's protagonist is, like the game, so customiseable that you can make it look like any other game-character. And that seems very fitting! You can make sackboy look like Ratchet, Kratos, Snake, Nate H, Nate D, Lara or whichever other game character, and that really suits the versatility of the platform. I'm not saying the other platforms aren't versatile, but the Playstation has been known for it. With the PS3 it's been part of its problem (harder to market than say focussing singly on wii-mote, or in the case of Microsoft probably on Live), but now versatility and customisation has gotten a face, and it's sackboy. ;)
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Both MGS4 and Halo are not defining, they don't do much new shit compared to their previous versions so they can't define a machine.
I'm also tired of this rare is over the hill shit because one guy said so.I wonder how many actually played VP or are gonna give Banjo even a try, critics should try first, then talk.
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18/09/08 @ 08:58
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Having a single game that defines a machine is a very bad thing as far as i can see, its about variety, not everyone loves a shooter or an rpg
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andywilkie35
18/09/08 @ 09:01
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I would say that MGS4 WOULD be the defining game of the PS3, if it actually had some competition. I own about 7 games for my PS3 and thats the only one that I've played through to the end. Meanwhile I have a stupid amount for my 360, and would love it if Fable 2 stands above the rest of what is an incredible back catalogue
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@Hamflank
"I still don't believe LBP has the appeal to 'hardcore' gamers to be a system seller. No matter how good it is." Does it need to? Do Wii Sports and Wii Fit really appeal to 'hardcore' gamers? They are certainly system sellers - they are fun - but I wouldn't say either appeal to the 'hardcore', despite getting lots of enjoyment out of them myself. |
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yeah, Xbox still = Halo to my head. It IS the flagship title, regardless of whether or not it is doing new shit or no.
Anyway, this is a less than subtle way for Moly to say "my game is the defining game of this genre, you should all aspire to have it" rather than any informed comment on PS3 game iconic status thangs. |
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WipEout HD will define PS3 for me. That series of games will always be associated with the PlayStation brand, I think - fast, furious gameplay, rioutous colours streaming past, sending a quake in front and flipping your opponents, thumping bass (and I *hate* most dance/jungle music, but for WipEout, it's just appropriate), cool Blade Runner-eaque Japanese lettering.
Awesome. Breathtaking. |
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Wipeout, Halo, MGS, etc are all outstanding titles, but defining is something else than super awesome or flagship. Defining is giving it a Raison d'etre. Does shit you couldn't do or have not seen on previous machines in my book.
Dead Rising is more defining than all of the above for instance. LBP looks like that as well. Fable might. |
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Gears was the reason i bought a 360, it defined it as a must have for me.....as did Gran Turismo for PS2 and Resident Evil for PS......and SF2 Turbo for SNES! :)
I dont buy console until a game comes out i have to play...... /looks at PS3 next to Wii and 360 /whistles
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Wasn't "Resistance: The Fall of Man" exactly that? ;)
Quote from IGN review: Owners of some gaming systems have to wait years before they get a true "killer app," but PlayStation 3 users get theirs on day one. Insomniac's Resistance: Fall of Man is far and away the most impressive title on the console -- delivering on everything that it promised with a strong single-player experience, plenty of kick-ass multiplayer options, and stellar gameplay mechanics that equal those found in other elite shooters. Don't get my sarcasm wrong. I enjoyed Resistance a lot when I played it through and I'm waiting to play R2. Even when I'm more X360-man than PS3-man I'd still rather have R2 any day than GoW2. :) |
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"Wasn't "Resistance: The Fall of Man" exactly that? ;) "
Surprised you didn't quote the EuroGamer 6/10 review. I think LBP could be the defining app for PS3, but it has to be successful both critically and commercially for it to be defining, and I have concerns for LBP that it be outstanding in the former, but mediocre in the latter. |
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Only Peter Molyneux believes Peter Molyneux's hype these days. All promise and not much in the way of delivery for 15 years or so. He has many great ideas which his games regularly fail to bring to fruition only to be better implemented by another dev. If Fable 2 manages to be remembered in years to come as defining the 360 era, I will eat one on toast, with a side order of Fable 2.
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kangarootoo
18/09/08 @ 09:35
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Pish and tish.
Halo and Gears are the defining titles of the 360, not Fable 2. Just as halo was a defining title for the original XB, and Fable 1 wasn't. |
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"Wasn't "Resistance: The Fall of Man" exactly that? ;) "
It was for me. Not the single player campaign but the online mode which runs circles around Halo and COD4 reg. lag, stability, smoothness (is that a real word?)... and fun :) And having played the R2 private beta, I'm really looking forward to R2 now :O |
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@rash
Oooh touchy Adressing doubts about what something could be is something else than saying "this sucks because they made shit I didn't like so the whole studio is crap and everything they make will be crap because of it", I never said that. Might be doens't equal fact, just a thought. But seeing as I probably will end up in a fanboy discussion right about now, bye.
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