PS3 still needs a defining game - Molyneux

Says Fable 2 could be one for Xbox 360.

Lionhead boss Peter Molyneux reckons the PlayStation 3 is still waiting for a console-defining game.

He picked out Wii Sports and Wii Play as those that defined Wii from launch, and even ventured that his own creation, Fable 2, could become a title synonymous with Xbox 360.

"It is always one or two games which define a platform - it's the same for the Wii, and the PlayStation 2," Molyneux told GamesIndustry.biz.

"I think the PlayStation 3 is still waiting for that definition title that represents the platform - and I think that's what hardware manufacturers need to do, find that defining title.

"Nintendo did a brilliant job of doing that at launch with games like Wii Sports and Wii Play - maybe Fable 2 is a defining title. But you are talking to the proud father of this game, so you can't ask me to be tremendously objective," he said.

But there's hope; Molyneux believes LittleBigPlanet - developed by former Lionhead staff and due out a week after Fable 2 - could be the game the PS3 needs.

"If we want to bring people in who haven't played games before, wherever they are in the world and whatever their cultural background, whatever their sex or age, then we've got to think out of the box and start creating stuff which fascinates those people. I think LBP could be one of those," added Molyneux.

Fable 2 is due out exclusively for Xbox 360 on 24th October.

Head over to GamesIndustry.biz for part one of the interview with Peter Molyneux, where he talks about Fable 2 being one of the big hopes for Xbox 360 in Japan.

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  • the_dudefather #1 3 years ago

    Peter Molyneux, PS3, Wii, 360, LBP...

    This is going to get messy
  • sonmi451 #2 3 years ago

    he's probably right. LBP could be the one. Also very much looking forward to the next game from Ico and Shadow of the Collosus developers.
  • Eraysor #3 3 years ago

    I'd laugh if Fable 2 sucks, because if it does he'll go as silent as Dyack is now.
  • menage #4 3 years ago

    Not to poop on his party, but Gears already defined the 360 I think. Fable 2 looks ace though.

    LBP could be it, but I'm still waiting to see how much game there is after a week or 2. Platforming is all nice and well, but without goals it might be kinda random and pointless.

    Agrees on the team Ico game. The whole reason I bought a PS2 was for Ico. Hurry up and show me something one screen, even a freaking idea would be cool at this stage.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 09:29
  • Lutz #5 3 years ago

    about Fable 3 being one of the big hopes for Xbox 360 in Japan

    Typo? Or: FABLE 3, CONFIRMED!!!
  • Negotiator #6 3 years ago

    "I'd laugh if Fable 2 sucks, because if it does he'll go as silent as Dyack is now."

    It won't, trust me, as far as LBP being a defining game I don't think so. 2D games are a step backwards,it's been done to death.
  • Beano #7 3 years ago

    I have respect for Molyneux but he's basicly owned by MS and hardly objective.

    I'm looking forward to Fable 2 (one of two 360 titles this year - quess the other one!) but it doesn't look like any "defining" game either - I'l be satisfied with not-as-soddy-as-the-first-game.
  • pommak #8 3 years ago

    I wonder what MGS4 is if not a defining game.
  • Beano #9 3 years ago

    "It won't, trust me, as far as LBP being a defining game I don't think so. 2D games are a step backwards,it's been done to death."

    Have you completely missed the concept behind LBP?

    Hardly "just another 2D platformer"...
  • Bertie Verified Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net #10 3 years ago

    It doesn't say Fable 3, look!

    (sorry)
  • seasidebaz #11 3 years ago

    Wii = Wii Sports
    Xbox360 = Halo
    PS3 = LBP

    That's how it works. Fable2 will not move consoles like Halo can.
  • DrDamn #12 3 years ago

    He cunningly ignores Gears and Halo for the 360. I think Gears probably more than Halo defines the 360. Interesting to look at the market in this way as it gives a reflection of the current market too.

    Wii - defining game Wii Sports - exceptionally fun inclusive title => Massive sales
    360 - defining game Gears - superb game, but lacking in universal appeal => Huge sales
    PS3 - defining game MGS4 - great game hidden amongst too many cut scenes, again lacks universal appeal => Not so good sales

    LBP has potential to branch out into more inclusion for the PS3 - it has certain gameplay structures and design which benefits this. I'm not so sure though, some of the elements are more hardcore - create and the core single player gameplay. It's certainly a strong, great looking brand though - and that is something the PS3 needs more of to distinguish it.

    Actually I tend to disagree that platforms need a defining game at all. Maybe back in the days of the Megadrive and SNES where it was Sonic vs. Mario. The bigger two platforms just need a really good spread of great games across all genres. That is what did it for the PS2. For me the 360 is still doing better in this regard, but the PS3 is coming on stronger now.

  • Lutz #13 3 years ago

    SeasideBaz: No, it won't shift consoles like Halo can. But it will shift plenty of units itself, (I reckon 2million TBH) and it's software sales that count about now. If it helps break the 360 further into Japan, then good.
  • DrDamn #14 3 years ago

    @menage
    "without goals it might be kinda random and pointless"

    Heaven forbid a game stand up on the fun and enjoyment of the gameplay ...
  • Arwin #15 3 years ago

    The PS2 didn't have one single defining game, and that was probably widely regarded as one of its strengths - there was plenty to be had for people with all tastes.

    I think LBP has the potential to be a defining game for the PS3 though, for no other reason than that it's protagonist is, like the game, so customiseable that you can make it look like any other game-character. And that seems very fitting! You can make sackboy look like Ratchet, Kratos, Snake, Nate H, Nate D, Lara or whichever other game character, and that really suits the versatility of the platform. I'm not saying the other platforms aren't versatile, but the Playstation has been known for it. With the PS3 it's been part of its problem (harder to market than say focussing singly on wii-mote, or in the case of Microsoft probably on Live), but now versatility and customisation has gotten a face, and it's sackboy. ;)
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 09:48
  • Spydy #16 3 years ago

    Moly, like Rare, are now over the hill and passed it.

    I await LBP to define the system (although I think sales will be conservative)
  • menage #17 3 years ago

    Both MGS4 and Halo are not defining, they don't do much new shit compared to their previous versions so they can't define a machine.

    I'm also tired of this rare is over the hill shit because one guy said so.I wonder how many actually played VP or are gonna give Banjo even a try, critics should try first, then talk.

    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 09:57
  • chris_ace #18 3 years ago

    Post deleted at 11:55:13 13-12-2011
  • Hamflank #19 3 years ago

    I still don't believe LBP has the appeal to 'hardcore' gamers to be a system seller. No matter how good it is.
  • KayJay #20 3 years ago

    LBP can be big if Sony Market it.. I have not seen one advert Written or on the TV for it... Its not long before its out is it?
  • Ranger101 #21 3 years ago

    I'd disagree with PS2 not having any defining games. GTA 3 SA, even if it was a limited exclusive, sold a fair amount of PS2's on its own.
  • DrDamn #22 3 years ago

    @Menage
    "Both MGS4 and Halo are not defining, they don't do much new shit compared to their previous versions so they can't define a machine."

    MGS4 set new standards in cut scenes :D. I agree with your point though.
  • rauper Verified Managing Director, Eurogamer Network #23 3 years ago

    He's right I think. MGS and GT5 weren't it. LBP could be.
  • GamesProgrammer Verified Games Team Programmer, Eutechnyx Ltd. #24 3 years ago

    Having a single game that defines a machine is a very bad thing as far as i can see, its about variety, not everyone loves a shooter or an rpg
  • andywilkie35 #25 3 years ago

    I would say that MGS4 WOULD be the defining game of the PS3, if it actually had some competition. I own about 7 games for my PS3 and thats the only one that I've played through to the end. Meanwhile I have a stupid amount for my 360, and would love it if Fable 2 stands above the rest of what is an incredible back catalogue
  • DrDamn #26 3 years ago

    @Hamflank
    "I still don't believe LBP has the appeal to 'hardcore' gamers to be a system seller. No matter how good it is."

    Does it need to? Do Wii Sports and Wii Fit really appeal to 'hardcore' gamers? They are certainly system sellers - they are fun - but I wouldn't say either appeal to the 'hardcore', despite getting lots of enjoyment out of them myself.
  • Widge #27 3 years ago

    yeah, Xbox still = Halo to my head. It IS the flagship title, regardless of whether or not it is doing new shit or no.

    Anyway, this is a less than subtle way for Moly to say "my game is the defining game of this genre, you should all aspire to have it" rather than any informed comment on PS3 game iconic status thangs.
  • bioreit #28 3 years ago

    WipEout HD will define PS3 for me. That series of games will always be associated with the PlayStation brand, I think - fast, furious gameplay, rioutous colours streaming past, sending a quake in front and flipping your opponents, thumping bass (and I *hate* most dance/jungle music, but for WipEout, it's just appropriate), cool Blade Runner-eaque Japanese lettering.

    Awesome. Breathtaking.
  • LHH #29 3 years ago

    Gears of War for the 360 I reckon

    Maybe LBP or Resistence 2 or Killzone 2...
  • Vin #30 3 years ago

    "I wonder what MGS4 is if not a defining game."

    A disappointment.
  • Lutz #31 3 years ago

    Note: He actually says Fable could be A defining title, not THE defining title.

    God of War III could be one such title for PS3. Maybe.

    But both Gears and Halo are 360's, and maybe Fable 2 will be a third one. Certainly it was the Halos and Fables that definied xbox 1 for me personally.
  • menage #32 3 years ago

    Wipeout, Halo, MGS, etc are all outstanding titles, but defining is something else than super awesome or flagship. Defining is giving it a Raison d'etre. Does shit you couldn't do or have not seen on previous machines in my book.

    Dead Rising is more defining than all of the above for instance. LBP looks like that as well. Fable might.

  • Beek4257 #33 3 years ago

    For me personally it was MGS4.

    In the grand scheme of all things PS3 my money's on LBP.
  • Buztafen #34 3 years ago

    Gears was the reason i bought a 360, it defined it as a must have for me.....as did Gran Turismo for PS2 and Resident Evil for PS......and SF2 Turbo for SNES! :)

    I dont buy console until a game comes out i have to play......

    /looks at PS3 next to Wii and 360
    /whistles

    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 10:24
  • DrDamn #35 3 years ago

    @Lutz
    He said "It is always one or two games which define a platform".


  • MKorkia #36 3 years ago

    Wasn't "Resistance: The Fall of Man" exactly that? ;)

    Quote from IGN review:

    Owners of some gaming systems have to wait years before they get a true "killer app," but PlayStation 3 users get theirs on day one. Insomniac's Resistance: Fall of Man is far and away the most impressive title on the console -- delivering on everything that it promised with a strong single-player experience, plenty of kick-ass multiplayer options, and stellar gameplay mechanics that equal those found in other elite shooters.

    Don't get my sarcasm wrong. I enjoyed Resistance a lot when I played it through and I'm waiting to play R2. Even when I'm more X360-man than PS3-man I'd still rather have R2 any day than GoW2. :)
  • woodnotes #37 3 years ago

    "Wasn't "Resistance: The Fall of Man" exactly that? ;) "

    Surprised you didn't quote the EuroGamer 6/10 review.

    I think LBP could be the defining app for PS3, but it has to be successful both critically and commercially for it to be defining, and I have concerns for LBP that it be outstanding in the former, but mediocre in the latter.

  • spammage #38 3 years ago

    Only Peter Molyneux believes Peter Molyneux's hype these days. All promise and not much in the way of delivery for 15 years or so. He has many great ideas which his games regularly fail to bring to fruition only to be better implemented by another dev. If Fable 2 manages to be remembered in years to come as defining the 360 era, I will eat one on toast, with a side order of Fable 2.
  • kangarootoo #39 3 years ago

    Pish and tish.

    Halo and Gears are the defining titles of the 360, not Fable 2. Just as halo was a defining title for the original XB, and Fable 1 wasn't.
  • Beano #40 3 years ago

    "lair2: lairier

    ps3 defining i tells ya! "

    No, I see Lair being retooled or Wii.. sitting in the couch, a wiimote in each hand and flapping our arms... OH THE PAIN!!! :)
  • Fab4 #41 3 years ago

    Halo 3 and GoW certainly are defining games. They define the concept of hype over content.
  • Beano #42 3 years ago

    "Wasn't "Resistance: The Fall of Man" exactly that? ;) "

    It was for me. Not the single player campaign but the online mode which runs circles around Halo and COD4 reg. lag, stability, smoothness (is that a real word?)... and fun :)

    And having played the R2 private beta, I'm really looking forward to R2 now :o
  • DrDamn #43 3 years ago

    @Fab4
    I'm not Gears biggest fan but it does exactly what it set out to do very, very well. Where does it fail exactly?
  • jonsaan #44 3 years ago

    Surely what games define a console is purely down to individual taste. For me 360 is Viva Pinata and Crackdown for example.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 11:00
  • Lutz #45 3 years ago

    kangarootoo: Sorry mate, but I think Fable 1 certainly helped define xbox 1 towards the end.
  • Rash' #46 3 years ago

    menage, that's an interesting comment you made regarding critic's of Rare. you should take your own advice before making ill informed judgements of LBP. i'm sick and frankly bored of such dumb comments. if you don't know what you're talking about then don't make a statement.
  • Fab4 #47 3 years ago

    @DrDamn,

    MP is a joke. And while its very nice to look at, the plotline in SP is so hackneyed it could have been written by the same people who do Neighbours. These ofc are only my opinions, but if I were to believe the hype, then I would have thought it was the 2nd Coming of the games world.
  • menage #48 3 years ago

    @rash

    Oooh touchy

    Adressing doubts about what something could be is something else than saying "this sucks because they made shit I didn't like so the whole studio is crap and everything they make will be crap because of it",

    I never said that. Might be doens't equal fact, just a thought. But seeing as I probably will end up in a fanboy discussion right about now, bye.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 11:09
  • Beano #49 3 years ago

    "Where does it fail exactly? "

    Lenght!

    I enjoyed Gears but it was just waaay to short. Sounds like Gears 2 will be longer though.
  • mcwildcard #50 3 years ago

    If I owned a 360, I'd not bother with Fable 2, I find all this shameless self-promotion really off-putting.
    If the game is that good, shut your mouth and let the reviews/public decide how good it is and word of mouth will do the rest.
  • Rash' #51 3 years ago

    There's an interesting question here about what is a defining game. For me it's game that reinvents the identity of a console for the consumer. But of course what defines that identity is down to personal taste... So I'm with the consensus that console makers shouldn't aim for defining moments, rather focus on a rich catalogue of games that reach a broad demographic.
    Edited by 2 at 18/09/08 @ 11:30
  • menage #52 3 years ago

    @mcwildcard

    And if the reviews public scored it really high?

    This is the same as Jaffe, Kojima, Cliffy B, Dyack,

    Or Spielberg, Cameron, all actors in any movie preview ever (this movie is s much fun and everyone was terrific). Never watch movies again?

    Just ignore it.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 11:23
  • drumbaby #53 3 years ago

    Shut up Pete. Go plug your silly game on GMTV instead.
  • Darren #54 3 years ago

    Hmmm, in my opinion the PS3 already has a defining game in Metal Gear Solid, a strong contender my own personal Game of the Year. As for defining games on the Xbox 360, sorry Fable 2 but I'd say that Halo 3 or Gears of War are likely to remain THE defining games on the platform, I can't see an RPG ever surpassing either of those, no matter how good it is. And that's coming from someone who's apathetic toward shooters but loves RPGs.
  • onyxbox #55 3 years ago

    I interpreted that headline as:

    "I've done it for XBox. Sony, make me an offer"

    :-D
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 11:43
  • assache #56 3 years ago

    Just do not get the LBP thing. A 2D platform game that you can create and share content for? I have to say, so what! Sounds like a glorified XBLA game.

    Oh look at my nice level I have created, you can jump around on it if you like! Sorry, but, just sounds boring.
  • onyxbox #57 3 years ago

    ^^^ @ assache

    Oh Dear
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 11:46
  • DrDamn #58 3 years ago

    @Fab4
    I'm not sure the story was ever hyped up that much - though I suppose you could argue the "Mad World" trailer implied there was a lot more to the story than the crap that it was. I don't really care for the story in shooters to be honest - see my earlier comment on LBP - the gameplay itself is the core component and that has to be right. Gears set exceptional new standards from third person shooters in that regard and has not been surpassed.

    MP I too never got on with, always felt a bit out of control - might be my aging "skillz" mind :). It was very popular and well regarded though. So it obviously worked very well for some.

    Kind of brings me on to the next point. These days as "gamers" we expect to enjoy any game which is supposed to be "good". It's completely unrealistic though due to the diversity even within sub-genres let alone genres. Elements such as story and MP may mean you aren't so impressed with Gears, but for others the overriding factors will be the enjoyment they get from the gunplay and even the MP which you and I fail to enjoy.

    Gaming as a hobby has matured significantly in what can be found to quench our thirsts as gamers. There are no longer single games which every gamer should enjoy or even appreciate - maybe there never were, but the diversity is much greater now than it ever has been. All we need now is for gamers themselves should mature a little and realise this. ;)
  • DrDamn #59 3 years ago

    @assache
    Why do you assume you should like it?
  • menage #60 3 years ago

    @ki09

    Everyone here is a geek, including you, you're on a videogame forum for godsake.




  • andromeda #61 3 years ago

  • RexRunti #62 3 years ago

    If you read the full article there is a lot of talk of Japan and South East Asia, Gears of War, Halo even MGS4 aren't really defining games there, but Fable 2 could be (as could LBP even if I think it's a risky basket to put all your eggs in).
  • Ranger101 #63 3 years ago

    "Definining Games" sell Consoles.

    I retract my earlier suggestion of GTA3 SA, I think the other person who mentioned Gran Turismo / God of War was right.

    God of War just reeks "Playstation".

    As does Gears of War for 360, and Halo for Xbox.

    DS, it's Brain Training ... unfortunately. That's what everyone knows it for... "the brain training thing".

    I can't think of anything for the PS3... I don't think it has one yet... something, that when you mention it's name, conjures "PS3" into mind.

    Unfortunately MGS (as a series) is too multiplatform and a little too niché as well to be defining.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 12:32
  • mcwildcard #64 3 years ago

    @menage
    Kojima doesn't take every conceivable opportunity to shoehorn a plug for his game, he does interviews and answers questions.
    Molyneux comes out with outlandish statements just to grab a bit of limelight for his titles.

    For the record, I watch very little in the way of Hollywood films, I prefer niche stuff that has a bit of originality to it.
    Korean cinema especially.
  • crazyhorse174 #65 3 years ago

    Developer bums up own game...hardly headline news is it?

    He's hardly going to come out and say "I reckon Fable 2 will be shit and people will actually stop buying the 360 because of it" is he?

    Still - I reckon it'll be great and can't wait for my preordered copy to arrive.
  • #66 3 years ago

    Im sick of that cunt and his crap games blowing smoke up his own arse ideas.
  • menage #67 3 years ago

    @mcwildcard

    Fair enough, that's just Japanese humility I guess.

    @ranger1

    So defining means exclusive then? Or first Party?






  • whoslotte #68 3 years ago

    Are people not tired of reading every half-baked comment Pete Molinex utters yet ? I don't understand the presses obsession with him. Is it a slow news day or something...? Move along... nothing to see here.
  • naffers #69 3 years ago

    Little big planet is out the same day as fable2..
  • FrankCannon #70 3 years ago

    I bought a PS3 recently and was quite shocked at the lack of decent games available, come on Son¥ pull your finger out. It is however lovely and quiet, if it wasn't for the XBOX360's cracking game line up i would have sold the noise generator by now but don't want to miss Fable 2. Damn exclusives, I hate them. P.S. Hurry up Fallout 3.
  • menage #71 3 years ago

    @naffers

    Really? Fuck all of them.
  • bonker #72 3 years ago

    "Not to poop on his party, but Gears already defined the 360 I think. "

    To its utter long-term detriment - big picture.

    No doubt at all for me that LBP is going to be the icon for the PS3 - whether it'll be any good is another matter ...
  • menage #73 3 years ago

    "To its utter long-term detriment - big picture. "

    I'm not English, so could you rephrase that in somewhat dumber language. Don't know what it means. "P
  • schnide #74 3 years ago

    "..maybe Fable 2 is a defining title."

    Oh do fuck off, Peter.
  • JonFE #75 3 years ago

    @evilfoxhound, I don't think Pete Molyneux is American, so there's no need for hatred...
  • rprince #76 3 years ago

    Sony are certainly placing all their bets on it being LBP, by the sounds of things.

    He at least admits that he's not in an position to be objective about Fable 2, but these are the sort of hyping comments he makes about all his games. Why does he bother? Wouldn't it be nice if Molyneux secretly worked on a game and kept quiet. Imagine how good it could be if he put his energy into the game rather than hyping it! ;-)
  • DrDamn #77 3 years ago

    @menage
    I think Bonker is implying that Gears being the defining title for the 360 is not a good thing in the long term. If you want to be seriously mass market you need defining titles with more appeal across the spectrum of people you want to sell to. How ever good Gears is as a game it will never appeal to a significant majority of your target audience.
  • DrDamn #78 3 years ago

    @crazyhorse174
    "He's hardly going to come out and say "I reckon Fable 2 will be shit and people will actually stop buying the 360 because of it" is he?"

    He kind of came close ... link.

    :)
  • menage #79 3 years ago

    Ah, thanks

    You're right of course. And MS is def. trying to change it this season. They see that too.

    Sony has the same problem though with PS3. I still think Killzone 2 will be more defining for PS3 than LBP. For the same reason. Young male adapters who are willing to pay money for fancy shit. LBP will be quite big with the hardcore/ gamers over here. Liitle Susy will play Singstar on her brothers PS3., not buy one herself when PS2 is also supplying that need. Or Wii is giving her Cooking Momma. It's just still too expensive.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 14:16
  • iago71 #80 3 years ago

    "Im sick of that cunt and his crap games blowing smoke up his own arse ideas."

    Yes, pithy and to the point.

    I dont necessarily share that view but laughed my arse off when I read it..... Thanks for brightening up an otherwise dull afternoon at work! :)
  • HardCoreGamer999 #81 3 years ago

    playstation never got a defining game.
    never on ps2 , ps1 , will be the same for ps3.
    Molyneux tend to make comparaisons with MS. MS needed to be different. Not Sony.
    Plus :a console doesn't really need a defining game to be successfull , Sony with "playstation" will continu to feed mostly entry customers from its brandrecognition.
    Sony will give LBP just the attention needed , no more.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 15:05
  • menage #82 3 years ago

    Yes it did. GT (and a few more)

    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 15:25
  • adamamosa #83 3 years ago

    I dont think that having a 'defining game' is as important as it once was. In fact, it can harm the system. Look at the effect that gears and Halo 3 have had on the 360. It puts just as many people off buying the console. This is why M$ are trying so hard to remove that hardcore image.
    Edited by 1 at 18/09/08 @ 16:37
  • WinterSnowblind #84 3 years ago

    @hedbog

    Fable failed to live up to many of the promises, but was in no way a flop. It still sold extremely well, recieved excellent reviews and is still generally considered a very good game. It was original, fun and just plain enjoyable, despite the fact that many of the features that were originally promised were dropped before release.

    If you've been paying any attention to the sequel, you'll know this isn't the case, this time around. There's been very little coverage, and what features have been hyped up, have all been domonstrated on screen. And of course, we have a much better idea of what to expect this time around.

    Even with all the hype, I still consider the original Fable to be one of the defining games on the Xbox, and it looks like the sequel will do the same for the 360.
  • mkreku #85 3 years ago

    I think he is right.
  • Xerx3s #86 3 years ago

    "I'd laugh if Fable 2 sucks, because if it does he'll go as silent as Dyack is now. "

    Haven't been reading our local F2 thread then eh? I suggest that you do...
  • Xerx3s #87 3 years ago

    "Halo 3 and GoW certainly are defining games. They define the concept of hype over content. "

    BECAUSE I SAY SO! STOP HAVING SO MUCH FUN WITH THESE GAMES!!!!

    twit.
  • captainrentboy #88 3 years ago

    Crofto, I bloody hope Fable 2 is nothing like Oblivion, because after 2 hours of roaming around a gigantic field with random, badly animated enemies attacking me I was bored shitless.
    And yes, I know I'm in the minority :)
    I'm really looking forward to Fable 2, I think the art style is fooking lovely, and the online and combat system both sound pretty cool. I'm not expecting it to redefine gaming or anything, and it certainly wont shift 360's like Halo and Gears Of War can, but it still looks like one of the better titles this Chrimbo.
    And some of you are clearly feeling a little too much hatred for this guy, it's a bit strange. So he's bigging up his product, big fucking deal.
  • patchbox360 #89 3 years ago

    Lair defines ps3 to perfection - all hype and no substance



  • niteninja #90 3 years ago

    This will end up like every other molyneux game,great concepts that are broken in game.
    He always falls short fable2 will be good until you finish the game in 8 hours and never play it again.
    Fallout is the rpg of the year.
    Molyneux hasnt done a great game since syndicate.
  • DAN.E.B #91 3 years ago

  • AOFanboi #92 3 years ago

    You guys know that if you let Halo 3 and GoW define the 360 then the 360 is truly ShooterBox360...

    Yeah, LBP will be the defining game for PS3 no doubt about it.
  • Vandrius #93 3 years ago

    Molyneux talks way too much, and whenever he talks he amps up his work and craps all over everyone else.

    Why doesn't he find a nice warm box, and crawl into it.
  • canIdoyabombsforya #94 3 years ago

    The PS3 is a media center, it doesn't need a defining game. It folds, wins HD format wars and does Linux n stuff.
  • Mr.Gordons #95 3 years ago

    Fallout 3 will define Everything...