PS3 Slim for autumn - report Comments by Robert Purchese

"the ps3 is doing just as well as the 360 over the same period" oh how the mighty SONY have fallen given their domination last gen they should be absolutly crushing microsoft.instead they are having to make a last roll of the dice with a ps3 SLIM. To EL DEV in regards to sonys new ips replacing the ones they have lost.although the new games are decent their sales figures have been well below par compared to a gta or MS halo/gears and none are associated with playstation by the general public unlike halo/mario etc.thats what the pstation brand is lacking nothing to do with the size or price as most(SDF?) people think.

wait till they are evenly priced, then see whos crushing who.

if the ps3 wasnt holding its own (against the 360) they'd have dropped it ages ago. but it is - at a much greater price.

the 360 is done for once the ps3's price comes down.

as i said, many people are anticipating buying a ps3 when the price is right - none are holding out for a 360. no matter what the price. anyone who wanted one, has one.

PLUS do people really think sony who recently reported record losses can afford to give the ps3 the price drop it needs to stimulate growth.in the uk it is selling for 299 british pounds rrp at most i think sony will knock off 50 ,is it really going to make a big difference to sales?i doubt it regardless of blu ray or game quality which imo i think the machine is well worth the money but if you just want games the 360 is a better choice and when you consider a premium 360 a game wireless 12m live isnt far of the price of a ps3 anyway PRICE is clearly not the main thing people consider when buying a new console for their children(or themselves)i certainly didnt (within reason)

yes price isnt everything. thats why the ps3 is selling evenly with the 360. so whats gonna happen when the price comes down?!

people want a stronger more reliable console. blu-ray and free network are not to be scoffed at either. then theres the ps3's exclusives and rockstars agent incoming.

the ps2 cost more than a 360 (arcade) thats pathetic. devalued 360 due to the rush job they done on it to 1-up sony, backfired in their face... now they have a bad rep.

SVD GRASSHOPPER i do not believe there are that many former ps2 owners and others waiting for a price drop.the fickle joe public have moved on(to WII/360) and sonys so behind with the times now.didnt the ps2 have about the same price as the ps3 does but it had still sold more than triple the amount in the same time frame(WITHOUT A SLIM) thats what you should compare PS3s sucess(or lack of) too not the 360 which has allready by 7million passed last gens figures

didnt say they were ps2 owners waiting to upgrade...

they are 360 owners waiting to upgrade (if you will) as soon as the price drops.

look around. how many 360 owners here have said so? loads.

ps3's lack of success? pull your head out your arse. in the same time frame, it has sold about the same as the 360. remember the 360's headstart - and remember they have already price cutted the 360 to fuck. sony has the upper hand. MS ejaculated prematurely.

ps3 has more buzz.

"how many 360 owners here have said so" this is a "hardcore" gaming site where you are much more likely to get people who want another console mr joe average only wants one and it looks like they are choosing wii/360 and the more people that do this the harder it gets for sony as lots of people talking at work/school is the best advertising you can get

FACTIMUS MAXIMUS if your out there brother i need some help sorting out this sony fanboy grasshopper.GIVE ME A SIGN

most people arent lemmings.

if you need to rely on school kids for your 'win' so be it.


but if you look at the facts. the base 360 is £97 - £3 CHEAPER than a ps2, and the ps2 sold shit loads at a much higher price than £100.

so why isnt the 360 flying off the shelves?! its selling well. but nothing like the "mainstream" ps2. and not even much better than the ps3.

sony has more to gain from a price cut than microsoft.

fuckin right you need help.

the facts are staring you in the face, so you need a known trash talking clueless fanboy to prop you up - silly cunt!

The reason the 360 isn't flying off the shelf is because of the major mistake MS made which is the RROD. Sony came out very lucky and MS made a complete blunder. If not for the RROD, I truly believe MS would be crushing Sony at this point. The RROD killed MS momentum. Even today people still experience the problem and this lack of confidence in MS hardware is what has slowed the 360 from selling like it could have.

Also, I highly doubt we will ever see the PS3 sell at the same price as the 360. MS will make sure there is always a price difference because there is a hardware difference between the two system. MS knows they cannot compete with the PS3 on hardware features so they will make sure their price is always below the PS3. During the big holiday push, you can believe MS will have a pick up and forget price point for the Arcade that will ensure they continue to lead for consoles sold for the year and the holiday period. Drop another 50 bones on the arcade and its an impulse buy.

There are a lot more buyers out there then the hardcore that frequent sites like this one. Those people do go on price and word of mouth. 8 million lead is a lot and it continues to grow not shrink. As more 360s get into people hands thats sells taken away from the PS3. The PS2 sold better than the Xbox and Gamecube because so many people had it by the time those two systems came out that momentum continued to grow. People bought the system because their friends bought the system and thus their friends bought the system even though the Xbox and Gamecube had the better hardware. The better hardware means nothing if you can get the same type of games for a cheaper price. Bells and whistle are only good to compliment a gaming system but usually not a system seller.

I still wonder can Sony take a huge hit if they drop the PS3 by 100. Would Sony really be able to recoup the loses they will have to stomach just to gain marketshare.

Monsieur Grasshopper, Microsoft had to, as you so eloquently put it, ‘ejaculate prematurely’ to get any foothold in the market, due to the fact Sony always had the upper hand. The massive success from the PS2 means that MS would have been grateful for any market share larger than the one the previous XBOX had, I’m sure they were very pleasantly surprised with he market lead they have over the PS3.

I’m sure that will dwindle if Sony do cut the price though, and yes the PS3 does have more buzz, several of them in fact, the 360 only has Scene It, not really got the same ring to it does it.

i have said that in the past - not that the 360 would be crushing the ps3 if it werent for RROD - but they would been in a MUCH better position. they sweeped all the problems under the rug and kept going, because it was cheaper and easier, but there is major unseen damage to their rep. thats part of the reason i think the 360 is so low in price.

if they stopped production, fixed the problem and started again. they'd have noticably lost profit, but they have unnoticably lost much more than that by treating the customer like fools. would have been ten times easier to fix the problem at the start instead of ignoring it and rolling out litteraly millions of faulty systems. they went all rabid in an attempt to beat sony at all costs. blew up in yer face microsoft man. now your selling systems cheaper than a 10 year old last gen rival.

"Sony came out very lucky"

Are they very lucky because they used more rigorous testing protocols, or lucky because MS were in such a hurry they didn't really care what was wrong with the machine as long as everyone bought one?

MS didn't really make that much of a blunder did they? PC's with Windows always crash and for whatever reason that's become an accepted part of owning one, although none of my friends that own Macs have ever spoke about it crashing.
So a console from Microsoft that crashes was simply par for the course was it not?

How many of you would buy a car if your mates told you that the particular model you were after was likely to fail completely whilst you were driving? Warranty or no warranty you would think twice.

@Machiavellian

There are a lot more buyers out there then the hardcore that frequent sites like this one. Those people do go on price and word of mouth. 8 million lead is a lot and it continues to grow not shrink. As more 360s get into people hands thats sells taken away from the PS3. The PS3 sold better than the Xbox and Gamecube because so many people had it by the time those two systems came out that momentum continued to grow. People bought the system because their friends bought the system and thus their friends bought the system even though the Xbox and Gamecube had the better hardware. The better hardware means nothing if you can get the same type of games for a cheaper price. Bells and whistle are only good to compliment a gaming system but usually not a system seller.

What you say holds true more so in this Gen due to online gaming. You're more likely to get a console your mates have got so that you can play them online. Someone mentioned a domino effect somewhere and I personally think this is what can make it swing either way.
That said, I don't think Sony are looking to get the lead now. They've got a lot of work to do for that. a price cut will, however, help them claw back a large part of that margin. At what loss? I guess you have to wait and see what they can recoup in software sales.

but if you just want games the 360 is a better choice

It isn't though is it, that's only your opinion. I have a 360 but I don't particularly want to play Halo, Gears, Forza, Mass Effect or Fable etc (just Alan Wake I'm waiting for). What I really want to play God of War, Uncharted, Gran Turismo, The Last Guardian, amongst others. I can only do that on my PS3.

GOODFELLA i wasnt speaking about me but the general gaming buying public who going of sales figures want the new cod gta,need for speed fifa etc etc..for these people the 360 is the superior choice because of price/online game performance/graphics

No, you said but if you just want games the 360 is a better choice. How is it?

The PS3 also has all the most popular games like CoD, GTA, etc. Free online as already mentionend, Blu Ray, whether you like it or not is irrelevant, and just better hardware in general.

@donnie: the fickle joe public have moved on(to WII/360) and sonys so behind with the times now.

if that were true, then how can you explain the numbers PS2 is still doing?

fickle joe public has moved on, but only a part of it. the part consisting of ms jeane public buying Wii. mr. daddy joe buying wii for the kids.

Mr. 16y old bought 360 (daddy wouldn't buy PS3 because of price). The americans bought american. The lower class "hardcore" bought 360 because of price. The loyal Xbox1 owners bought 360 because MS abandoned their first. There is an immense amount of people on the fence - a lot of which waiting for PS3's price to come down, since they were happy with PS2.

imHo.

FACTIMUS MAXIMUS if your out there brother i need some help

Hilight of this year's EG commenting history. Pure comedy gold.

"FACTIMUS MAXIMUS if your out there brother i need some help"

I'm quite enjoying the fantard-free forums these days. God bless you EG and all who sail in you, for Karma has hidden the stupids and I no longer feel compelled to stoop to their level.

Strangely some grasshopper posts breached the retard barrier, but the ignore button works a treat on warts like him.

a faster drive would be perfect for game installs, and to cut loading times.

I'm afraid I completely disagree with GamesConnoisseur comment. It's meaningless.

Faster drive equals faster data transfer, and that's it. There's nothing to really break by adding one. Games would be designed for the slow drive obviously, but any times where a load depends on waiting while a set amount of data is transferred from the BD to the RAM or HDD will benefit immensely.

@schnide

Some people will absolutely buy the "big fat ugly" PS3 and be pleased to have saved £100.

Its a games console, not a hat. For all the steam that internet posters might vent, most people don't really care what it looks like once it is stuffed inside their TV cabinet thing.

New slimline versions of consoles are for early adopters and hardcore fans who care about that sort of thing. Many gamers simply don't.

KANGARROO agree with that and thankyou to factimus for his grasshopper put down.articulate wit at its best