PS3 has "no chance of making money" Comments by Robert Purchese

^ btw, what do you know about Pandora? Is is for real? I didn't know it until one of my Sun buddies, who are always trying to preach the anti-MS pro-open-every-thing bible, but I didn't pay much attention or given much credibility due to his pedigree... (I think that's the problem when someone "over do" it).

hehehe.

Ok, we're getting too off-topic here, so I'll just PM you.

And no, It ain't vapour-ware.

@SeesThroughAll

Just to be clear, I'm not knocking the sixxaxis just because.. well, just because. It's still a perfectly serviceable controller after all, even if it needs a bit of modernising ;). I just think that half a solution to a problem often only presents more problems.

If Sony announced a full motion controller (which they surely must at some point?) then I would be amongst the 'thats more like it' crowd rather than the 'lol, copycatz' crowd.


I really wanted the PS3 to deliver this gen, and despite personally considering the PS3 the biggest gaming dissapointment in history, I hope Sony return to form with the PS4.

megastar - You heard me..... YOU HEARD ME!!! :)

In the grand scheme of sales or even shipped....worldwide 360 has shifted more....hence in a real world 'ive sold more than youve sold' sense, this generation (as i said in my initial post) between the High Def gaming consoles (PS3, 360) is being led by Micro$oft.

Whether it'll stay like that is any jeb's guess though :)

they harp on about blu ray storage capacity etc then force you to install your games to the HDD and release downloadable movies.

That's just them betting on two horses... What else did you expect? ;)

The bloke who said all current consoles are lacklustre wins most insightful comment so far. The rest of humanity doesn't care what you lot think and will continue to buy into Wii for months to come. Yay!

PS3 provides great games that are not on PC. Xbox 360 is just a trojan horse for Windows.

Confounder, you win the prize for the dumbest post of the day.

As a result of the 360, millions of xbox owners are now using Vista. Lol ;)

you guys know that's why the 360 has had 2 price cuts(well one and the other in september). plus they have been making money on the 360 for about 2 years now. see microsoft made sony do things they shouldn't have done. obviosly the sku matter....now if you can replace your hard drive in the ps3 why did they need a 60 gb model, then a 40 gb model, and now finally a 80 gb model.

see the og xbox was late to the game on top of that not to long after they came out the ps2 had a price drop, so xbox had to cut price. then the ps2 had another price drop, so again the xbox had to cut its price again....to top it all off they couldn't get subsided components. now your selling a box that cost 350 to make and and your selling at 199.99.

sony fans keep it real with yourselves, ps3 didn't need to 2 different sku's. also is backwards compatibility really necessary? how's the motion controller working? oh yeah let's not forget that rumble was so last gen, thats why we didn't include it, oh wait now we need a rumble six axis controller. wait we are pushing blu-ray, but xbox is doing video downloads damn we need that too. you guys do have free online, but hey it just means that you have no money going into the online division.

oh and since it's microsoft windows and microsoft xbox 360 they are supporting 2 gaming divisions so if you don't have a 360 but a windows pc then you can play a microsoft published game.....does it make since now? is it sinking in? microsoft xbox 360, microsoft windows = 2 microsoft products. so whether its on 360 or pc it's still exclusive to microsoft.

"I've said it countless times already, I sure would hate to see Microsoft get the same kind of grip on gaming that they already have on PC software..."

This. The games industry, may surprise fanboys but technically true, needs competition and machines of diffferent specification. From cheap and cheerful to powerful and expensive, from first-party to third-party, from control pads to joysticks to the wii remote. It all diversifies, keeps companies pushing, keeps them advertising, buying new talent, investing in new games etc.

It's when a company dominates a market almost by default that you see issues. And Nintendo are just as much guilty of this as Microsoft is, as they had a 95% domination of the handheld market for so long and the GBA, despite selling tons of machines, had a despairingly barren and sporadic release pattern. This is not healthy for a market. With no rush, no urgency, no competitors - companies get complacent and start to treat their customers with contempt. There's no reason to push for quality, or push to a release date.

All companies in the games market are guilty of anti-competative practices. Microsoft have done it with PC Software. Nintendo did it with the handheld market. Sony hve done it numerous times but more recently of note, buying up things to make Bluray the HD media format standard. If given a chance, of course they'd all stranglehold a market. That is why competition is desperately needed, and why we need this kind of three-way fight. As long as they're all battling, each generation one will come out on top but the fight is still strong, the market will remain strong.

Sony may seem in trouble but let's not ring out a death-knell yet. Sony are clearly positioning themselves to be the leaders in an inevitably-coming HD conversion. The price they're paying now may be recouped in future. Spend money to make money. There may be method to the madness, and yes they may be out of pocket for a few years but it never hurt Microsoft and the X-Box,and despite being the little guy Nintendo have had enough big names to sustain themselves, so will Sony.

In short, PS3 is not "teh doomed". In a few years we may all convert to HD in a space of a few months and Sony, as media format leader and their hands firmly in the HD market, will reap what they've sewn. It's a plausible scenario and Nintendo and Microsoft will play catch-up. The industry swings around so much, it's never a good idea to write anything off...

So PS3 gets another feature,money eater

...if ever there was a pointless console Xbox 360 is it... If I own a PC and a PS3, I can play the best of PC (therefore Xbox 360) and PS3.

And if I don't own\want a PC capable of playing games I.....

Sony's catalogue is just not diverse. They make games for Japanese / 14 year old girls... which is the wrong market when the price is so high. Blu-ray is just a pfad that has come and will go. The next-gen-gen will all be downloadable and/or mini-flash disk. Optical drives just buffer too slowly. No changing that. Most cross platform games are sub-par on the PS3 because the hardware architecture is not dev and release date-friendly. Sony's one chance at targeting hardcore gamers... MSG4, did about as good as BF:BC... far below expectations for a wannabe AAA exclusive. Their 10 year plan was a BIG mistake in these gaming days. You want something that plays games now... not in the summer of 2009. The fact that they struggle to compete against a Microsoft product that breaks all the time is a perfect example of their terrible brand positioning.

@luvbeer
The 'return' key is your friend, walls of text are hard to read.

@hitman42
What has amount of sku's got to do with anything? Has Xbox only got one?

sony fans keep it real with yourselves
What does that mean?

how's the motion controller working?
Quite well thanks, Flying a Warhawk with it is awesome.

lol! hitman42 really hitting the FURY there!

@mcbi4kh2....

microsoft put out a product to compete with sony and nintendo. hence the arcade model, and the 20 gb model to compete with the ps3....but all playstation had to do was come out with say the 60 gb and since you can switch harddrives there was no need to come out with multiple sku's.

now the reason they dropped the price is because the ps2 hardware isn't in there right?

so like i say keep it real with yourselves, the only thing the ps3 has going for it is the blu-ray.

but even if that's the case, we are about to switch from analog to digital broadcasting in feb 09, so that's more hd stations, with more hd content, why buy a $30 blu-ray disc when i should be able to stream....bottom line sony fed you this bullshit it's not tru hd unless it's 1080p and blu-ray will be the only way to experience it....blah blah blah blah. i'm no videophile but a upconverted dvd looks just as good as a blu-ray and it's cheaper.....they talk about 7.1 surround sound but bose manages to get full surround sound from 3 speakers go figure.

i'm no videophile but a upconverted dvd looks just as good as a blu-ray and it's cheape
You're quite right, you're not.

so like i say keep it real with yourselves
like I say, what does 'keep it real with yourself' mean?

now the reason they dropped the price is because the ps2 hardware isn't in there right?
Wrong. 60gb pal ps3 had software emulation.

Your main argument seems to be that the PS3 is rubbish becasue blu-ray is un-necessary. It can also deal with media in all the ways the 360 can so I dont really see your argument?

dude just face it blu-ray is not needed. sony is pushing it. people don't want it. see you guys are still caught up in the hype of what media it can play. that point is moot, the reason the xbox 360 is exception is because it was made for games first all that other stuff is just extra.....and what i mean by keeping it real with yourselves is that the ps3 is much more a blu-ray player then it is a actual game machine.

also if a upconverting dvd doesn't look as good as a blu-ray why do people still buy them? since, well blu-ray is so much better. "well with blu ray you'll be able to put more deleted scenes and directors comments, you know more interactivity." why do you think bootlegs movies sell so damn good? because people don't care about all that extra bull. dvd was and still is a bigger impact then blu ray

wrong???the 60 had software emulation because they dropped the ps2 hardware which allowed the price to come down a lil.(u just made yourself look stupid)

Confounder, and what about my case - I don't want a Windows in my home, huh?

wrong???the 60 had software emulation because they dropped the ps2 hardware which allowed the price to come down a lil.(u just made yourself look stupid)

The pal 60gb never had hardware emulation, it was always software. So yes, wrong.

dude just face it blu-ray is not needed
Please point to the post where I said it was.
It most likely isnt, but is a great feature pretty much for free.
(Price up a 360 with a hdd, wireless, online (for 2 years) a controller charger and rechargeable batteries, hdmi output and it will be pretty close. The ps3 however comes with blu-ray, so in that sense it is free)

also if a upconverting dvd doesn't look as good as a blu-ray why do people still buy them?
This is so obvious I cant believe I have to answer. Becasue it is cheaper and not everyone has a 1080p (or even 720p /1080i) tv.

why do you think bootlegs movies sell so damn good?
You buy bootleg movies? Strange, I get them for free.

so they went from what a 40 with the ps2 hardware inside higher price, to the 60 with software emulation. now they finally settled on the 80 gb model sku.(remember i said they dropped the hardware so you have a lower price with the 60, so yes you look stupid)

lets see the 360 doesn't need hd dvd or wireless..(to enjoy it as gaming device)..the newer models come with hdmi..(does the ps3 even come with component cables?)..the batteries and charger have plenty options the plug and charge kit, or like me since i have lots of remotes i bought a energizer 15 minute charger....online, yes where would we be without online, well seeing as my 50 goes into research and development to further the growth of the service whereas you get free online, and HOME will be out sometime.

so by the time every one converts to hd sets resolutions with be beyond 1080p....

yeah you download movies from torrents good for you....


confinder you must not know cuz you are also a dumb fuck.....microsoft windows, microsoft xbox 360 essentially they have 2 major platforms and if it's published by microsoft game studios more the likely it'll be on both platforms with a short period of exlusiveness to to one system....so whether it's the pc or the 360 it's on a microsoft system....won't be no halo, or gears of war etc on a mac or linux based computer.....

Why does Perry think hes such a know it all, hes a nobody. It seems these game guys keep wanting to get sound bites, perhaps hes after a job.. cause it doesnt seem like hes doing very well himself. I do laugh at the sudden rise of the "PR yourself" brigade.

"PS3 has been a disaster, shit games for the West, nothing for Japanese gamers, massive losses, no chanve of making a profit.

Time to release the PS4 and forget about this failed console. It will be talked about in the same way as the Jaguar and 3DO in a few years time.

A total flop."

It's the you of home consoles.

total dissapointment with so many broken promises
its a total flop as far as im concerned
wish i never bothered.

LOL at acclaim using Sony for hype.

LMAO how about talking about its crap games oh wait they are crap.

"Talking of pointless, if ever there was a pointless console Xbox 360 is it. Where are the great games for it? The top 5 games on Xbox 360 are available on PC. Only Xbox fanboys would try and deny it. "

Halo 3, Project Gotham Racing 4, Forza 2 and Crackdown are out on PC?

What was the big PS3 exclusive last christmas, Unreal Tournament 3? Oh wait that's not only out on the PC but the 360 as well now :)

Dave Perry's main point is regarding the cost of making PS3 as a games console, and that '10 year plan'

With a Wii 2 and Xbox 720 on the shelves well before Sony's halfway stage, not to mention generic £50 'do everything' media centers, what gamer in his right mind will buy a PS3? By 2017 I have great expectations for gaming, something Sony havn't had since 1993.

To Stevens and SOLO maybe in your minds its a failure, but certainly not in mine. I am using it every day, got lots of games, in fact its great. From a financial point of view they are selling more and more, its slowly catching up with the Xbox, and more and more games are coming out for it.