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PS3 gets firmware update 2.41 News
PlayStation 3 News by Ellie Gibson
PS3 firmware update 2.41 is now available for download.
Last week, you may remember, Sony was forced to withdraw update 2.4 after some people reported it had busted their consoles.
Now, in a post on the US PlayStation blog, PSN boss Eric Lempel has stated the update was recalled "because, for a limited number of users, the XMB wouldn't display after the update was installed".
The problem has been fixed, according to Lempel, and Sony's jolly sorry about the whole thing. "We want to extend our apologies to the PlayStation community for any inconvenience," he wrote.
"Now we’ll be looking forward to seeing everyone online and racking up those trophies!"
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HiddenAway
08/07/08 @ 08:16
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Not being a PS3 user, I'm a bit confused here. If your XMB has disappeared during the last upgrade (I assume that is what happened), how can you get the new one?
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sickpuppysoftware
08/07/08 @ 08:37
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Just updated and the system is still working*
*mind you 2.4 worked fine for me too. |
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This 2.4 fiasco showed a lot of die hard fanboys in th worst possible light. Lot's were in flat out denial, claiming that it was all made up by XBots. What they didn't seem to notice (maybe shows how much they actually use their PS3s instead of going onto forums to defend it) was that music and trophies didn't work properly in 2.4 either. It was broken no matter whether your console still booted after installing it.
Like most here I suspect I'll be waiting for a few days before I install 2.41 |
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3william56
08/07/08 @ 08:57
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@HiddenAway/Killerbee
Apparently, if 2.4 did brick the PS3, there's no real physical damage damage a la RROD, you just need to reformat the hard drive. So easily DIY fixable if you happen to have a 2.5" USB HDD enclosure and minor screwdriver skillz (pull the HDD from the PS3, put it in the enclosure, attach HDD to PC, format drive, return to PS3, job done). No return to shop needed, and no effect on warranty. The bummer is you lose all of your saved stuff (inc. game saves). Or you can take the excuse to upgrade the PS3 hard drive, and slam in a new monster hard drive anyway. If you don't know what that means or how to do it (plenty of guides if you Google), then a short visit to your local computer or game shop should do - faster than posting it back to Sony. Bummer that it happened (especially on such an anticipated upgrade - blushes all round I reckon), though from the rarity of the incidence it sounds like it would have been difficult to predict in advance. But otherwise, pretty good job done by Sony on this - no waiting a year and denying failures or FUDding; immediately pull the update, apologise and sort it within a week. Redmond, are you watching? Though I'm just glad my ISP doubled my download allowance this week. Would have been growing old on throttled downloads otherwise. |
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@Penhalion: This i really odd, nowhere has i seen anyone claim what you do, music is ofcourse clear to everyone if they bothered to read the releasenotes in the 2.40 archive (games will have to be patched to make use of the new custom music feature) , trophies worked exellent the first 2 days for me atleast, i have them all except for SSDHD multiplayer pack which is not out in europe yet (only Solo pack is (4.00) and that was pulled too, they removed that the same time as 2.40 was removed. so either stop wanking or just run to the thread you belong in. PS: i have over 60 friends in my friends list and i'd say 80% of them has atleast unlocked 1 or 2 trophies out of the 16 available atm (well more to come today i guess). BTW: since youre such a wiseguy , you seem to forget that every trophy is recorded via PSN with a date stamp and time stamp and by that i can prove your trolling in a single comment.
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So I presume that this v2.41 firmware I installed (rather quickly) this morning is in fact absolutely IDENTICAL to the v2.40 one I successfully downloaded last week? I presume the version number change is only so that every PS3 owner is running the same version of the firmware?
It is kind of annoying to have to do these vX.X1 bug fix updates, mostly because firmware updates carry with them a small element of risk of something going wrong, so they should be kept to an absolute minimum but the PS3 has at least one every six weeks!!! Still at least Sony resolved the issue (presumably) quickly and they can now get on with improving the ingame XMB, i.e. hiding the unused stuff to make it run quicker and moving the controller battery charge overlay somewhere where it doesn't obscure the clock!!! But, please, can we go more than two months without doing a firmware update, Sony? Please... plus it'll give you more time to test them so things like the v2.40 fiasco don't happen in the first place! :P |
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@MossyMos - I've come across someone else who had the same problem as you. Like you they were using a 250 GB HDD. What model is it? I've used a 160 GB 5,400 rpm 8 MB buffered Western Digital Scorpio HDD in my PS3 for a year with no problems with updating the firmware and two months ago upgraded to a 320 GB version of the same model, again with no problem. Could certain models of HDD cause incompatibility issues, say, if it's a 7,200 rpm model or one with a 16 MB buffer?
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@Darren , ofcourse its more or less identical. 2.41 is a bug fix for everyone who managed to not get it 2.40 installed. There was some minor glitches and problems with 2.40 (web browser used too much memory , InGame XMB used to much memory etc) time will tell if thoose have been solved too. anyway this is not 2.41 as in a new feature list , this is as in 2.41 (as a developer myself i would have called it 2.4.1) as in a bugfix for 2.40. , Now , Gimme proof that there has been an update every 6th week. I ran all dates now since launch day and nope' its not every 6th week so you should bring some dates and news item as a source to your rant.
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This 2.4 fiasco showed a lot of die hard fanboys in th worst possible light. Lot's were in flat out denial, claiming that it was all made up by XBots. What they didn't seem to notice (maybe shows how much they actually use their PS3s instead of going onto forums to defend it) was that music and trophies didn't work properly in 2.4 either. It was broken no matter whether your console still booted after installing it.
This post puts YOU in a bad light (maybe shows how much you actually use your PS3 instead of going onto forums to attack it :-P ), because it DID work for me and I didn't have any problems and it was working perfectly for me, and Sony have stated during the 2.4 firmwire video's that the games would need a patch for custom soundtracks to work, and i've been able to compare my level 2 e-penis for a whole week, infact no-one on my friendslist has had a problem with the firmwire except those who couldn't download it because it was taken down before they turned their PS3 on.
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@ Nosbod
Oh yeah! I get that, I mean I'm getting WELL hacked off with a BAD_POOL_CALLER BSOD I'm getting at the moment on XP, and its not handy that the industry standard mastering VSTi Waves doesn't work with Vista ... but more driving at the fact that the buggers have been running the OS game since the 80's and are a wee bit adept at it. Having said that, Sony are doing alright I have to say. Grinding out the additions and updates (which is remarkably Windows in its approach). The OS could have been utterly horrific ala their DAP software, plus I suppose, 2nd to Nokia, their phone OS's are the nicest to use. |
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@ToAks - You're a bit of a delicate soul, aren't you, if you thought I was having a "rant"! LOL
And if you want proof of the number of updates and their dates then look at this *link*. With odd exception, like the three months between v2.10 and v2.17, it does show that the PS3 has at least one firmware update every month, never mind every six weeks!!! ;) Like others I'm sure, I'm just concerned about the chance of something going wrong during these updates so, IMO, they should be kept to a minimum like on the 360, where it typically gets just two major updates per year (although it seems in 2008 it will get just one). |
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@MossyMos I occasionally get the same Hard drive error message on my launch day 60Gb upgraded to 320Gb.
A reboot fixes it. I'm guessing that some HD's are just marginally slower then the original drive at spinning up and presenting themselves to the OS as ready for use. If they're a second or two later then expected, the PS3 will display this error. A soft reboot fixes it because the drive is still spinning when the PS3 is reset, so the drive is found straight away. |
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@Darren , well done research and for that you get REP +1 :) , as for the other points you have, ofcourse i would also want to see updates like rarely but with more stuff in them but Sony is playing catchup and they have to make all the whiners happy, just look at the official forums... its crazy. i agree that every 4th or 6th month we should have a update although i do think they still need to catch up on a few other minor things first (Flash 8 among others , i doubt we will see flash 9 soon but i hope we atleast get 8). cheers
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@Darren. It is a Western Digital 250 gig drive at 5400rpm. Cannot remember the model number or cache size. Knowing my wallet it is probably an 8 meg cache ; ) Going to change it at some time as it likes to do a clicke-de-click sound once in awhile, like my laptop drive, during which it cannot read. Lasts all but 1-1.5 seconds but games that stream from the harddrive freeze during this (only affected Warhawk and Heavenly Sword).
@Oreillymj. Thanks. Just figured resetting the power would make the PS3 check extra hard : ) Could be the startup time of the harddrive that is at fault but I was also thinking of the Other OS I have installed (in this case Yellow Dog Linux). Who knows. And right now I don't give a damn as it is working. The PS3 had me shouting for a moment when it did not boot properly. Just received my 50" screen this morning and the first thing the PS3 does when I connect it to the screen is update to 2.41..... and then not boot. Aaargh!! Three years of saving and researching HDTVs and I am foiled at the last minute (well the first minute of turning on the TV). Have to say that these HD TV thingies look absolutely beautiful with a BluRay movie (or HD-DVD if that is what you want ; ) ) |
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So Sony is saying it only affected a "limited" number of PS3s?
How does that work then? Are they all like PCs, different from the next one?! Doubt that, except for the odd model change, but surely they all accept the same firmware. Want to know how come it was "limited"? It WASN'T! Sony just withdrew it quick enough, before everyone else bricked their units. They were plain lucky... Just like how lucky they are that no matter how much they delayed the PS3 launch, charged a fortune for it, had crap release games, still have crap games, are always late with PSN and want to charge £40 for the DualShock3 - people (especially in UK) still forgive them and buy blindly. No thanks...I'm sticking with my PS2 and PSP...I'm skipping this round. Might even defect to XBot! Over & Out. |
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@Zeedee , maybe you didn't see the playstation blog post or maybe youre just trolling`? , it happened only to thoose who had certain settings set (ie a debug version installed or some very old firmware) , keep in mind that there is probably still people who has a ps3 who yet have to go online with it.
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@des
"PS3 is like sinking ship,needs to be patched every couple days to stay afloat lol" A cheap shot if ever I heard one. The vast majority of the regular PS3 firmware updates are in fact primarily new features and functionality (and include fixes for very minor issues). And at least we got a sincere apology. So let me respond with an all-too-easy cheapshot of my own: because, of course, Microsoft have never had problems with failing hardware, or patch rollouts that break consoles... or PCs, for that matter. |
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@zedzee
Well done sir, I think every scenetence in that post was utter rubbish. surely they all accept the same firmware. surely PC's can all accept the same OS? Therefore using your amazing logic one broken PC = all PC's broke. before everyone else bricked their units They werent bricked, a reformat and job done. they delayed the PS3 launch Microsoft RUSHED the 360 launch to try and get a stronger foothold in the market. Their hardware simply wasn't ready, over 30% faliure rate is a disgrace. still have crap games Why is this argument still going? There are loads of games! want to charge £40 for the DualShock3 Yes, I'd prefer to pay £30 for an xbox controller plus £10 for a charger. |
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@m0thr4
What makes you think that i approve MS shitty practice of releasing unfinished OS and patching it on the go?So now that Sony has over-adopted it,its a good thing?This 2.40 fiasco proves how good they are,lets put unfinished firmware and patch it on the go. Besides comparing PC patches and consoles is pointless,PC hardware is constantly evolving and OS has to maintain compatibility with thousands of different components. |
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