PS3 3D firmware "available shortly"

By Tom Bramwell Published 22 April, 2010

Includes new Trophy sorting options.

The next PlayStation 3 firmware will pave the way for 3D stereoscopic gaming ahead of the launch of new Bravia TVs, and will be "available shortly".

That's according to the PlayStation Blog. Last week Sony announced that new 3DTVs would go on sale in June and be preceded by 3D firmware for PS3. (Buyers also get three free 3D games - WipEout HD, Super Stardust HD and PAIN - and a 3D demo of MotorStorm: Pacific Rift.)

The upcoming 3.30 firmware will be mandatory and also introduces new sorting options for Trophies, which are detailed on the blog. (We'd recount them here but frankly can't make head nor tail of them.)

For more on PlayStation 3's 3D revolution, check out The Making of PlayStation 3D, which explains how games are adapted for 3D on PS3.

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About Tom Bramwell

Tom is Operations director of Eurogamer Network and Editor-at-Large of Eurogamer.net. He joined the company in February 2000.

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  • CaptainQuint #1 2 years ago

    I'm not gonna hold my breath, but here's hoping they've come up with a better (less cluttered) menu layout for the dashboard.

    -1
    -2
    -3
    -4
    etc

  • Goodfella #2 2 years ago

    Less cluttered? it couldn't be more simple, could it?

  • laharl80 #3 2 years ago

    This update also fixes the youtube not working issue so i assume the flash player was updated.
    The xmb doesn't need fixing.

  • idle_thumbs #4 2 years ago

    The update has been live a few hours.

  • Beano #5 2 years ago

    "Less cluttered? it couldn't be more simple, could it? "

    I agree... XMB cluttered? Could not be much more elegant IMO. Many features but still fast and simple to navigate.

  • Goodfella #6 2 years ago

    And it seems you can't say anything positive anymore about the PS3 anymore on Eurogamer. Are we that brand attached nowadays?

  • wizlon #7 2 years ago

    XMB is ace, loads better than the NXE, I can't find my games for adverts on that atrocity.

  • laharl80 #8 2 years ago

    @Biker_Bob
    Well we all have different tastes but as far as i'm concerned its still a classy interface.
    Maybe they could remove a couple of the extra PS store portals but other than that its great.
    Look at how much has been added since launch.
    I think Sony have been pretty good to us.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 08:49

  • CaptainQuint #9 2 years ago

    I think the dashboard proves that one can have too many options. For a less than hardcore user such as myself, it can be annoying trying to remember where things are.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 08:47

  • IonOnion #10 2 years ago

    A hidden feature that wasn't mention was that they updated the version of Flash used in the PS3’s browser.
    Which means Youtube is working again.

  • StevilKnevil #11 2 years ago

    I agree, the dashboard is all over the place. Its a nightmare to find anything on it sometimes. Still love my 360 though.. Surprised anyone that finds the XMB "cluttered" can successfully navigate the comments section of a website IMO.

  • Beano #12 2 years ago

    @Biker_Bob : Which XMB features have been cut away?

    I agree that the XMB is slightly less elegant now since some features have been added (like the panel in top-right side of the screen). Not perfect (nothing is!) but overall it's by far the best and most feature-rich interface when compared to 360 and Wii.

  • onyxbox #13 2 years ago

    @CaptainQuint

    I'll take XMB over NXE any-day... the NXE is a mess, a pretty one but still a mess... and I have to learn 2 sets of interface for the 360 (NXE & blades). I seem to remember that some settings aren't even available in the NXE but *are* available in the mini blades... what's that all about?

    And don't get me started on Avatars... horrible... things... I wish I could turn them off.

    People confuse good design with familiarity IMO. NXE is familiar to 360 players so XMB feels overwhelming and confusing but looking at it objectively I'd say the XMB is clean and consistent and all the options are in logical places. I also happen to think the Wii dashboard is better structured than NXE for similar reasons.

  • karooo #14 2 years ago


    "Last one just removed a feature, this one adds one noone will use. Whoop-dee-fucking-do."

    ya everyone used otheros.

  • Beano #15 2 years ago

    @designerheadache: Agreed :)

  • Beano #16 2 years ago

    ...and... It doesn't get much prettier than this :)

    [link url=http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=lrA5DhHJT78
    ]http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=lrA5DhHJT78
    [/link]

  • CaptainQuint #17 2 years ago

    Stevil: "Surprised anyone that finds the XMB "cluttered" can successfully navigate the comments section of a website"

    I don't know what you're using, but it takes me about two clicks of the mouse to post a comment here...

    One can only assume you're using the PS3's intergrated web browser to contribute, since it sounds like you find the comment posting process rather awkward.

  • Markitron #18 2 years ago

    update is live now, at least there was no wait.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 09:34

  • StevilKnevil #19 2 years ago

    @CQ. Touched a nerve there did I? Sorry if I offended you in some bizzare way. Or in any other way. It does make you come across as a bit of a fanboy when you describe the XMB as the Dashboard though...

  • dubdivision #20 2 years ago

    I'd be interested if anyone has a compatible 3d screen and glasses and if there's any content available now?

  • CaptainQuint #21 2 years ago

    Yeah Stevil, I'm enraged right now. Fuming. I might go downstairs and take it out on the missus.

    I hope you're pleased with yourself, upsetting people on the internet.

  • BabyJesus #22 2 years ago

    Appear offline function please.

    And the browsers flash needs updating.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 09:47

  • Beano #23 2 years ago

    "XMB is still missing a substantial number of useful features than NXE has..."

    Like?

    Besides cross-game chat, the XMB is far superiour way to navigate, arrange and play/view pictures, music and videoes.

    Buy I would like some privacy settings like the 360 has. That my number one wish for PS3 :)
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 09:51

  • Goodfella #24 2 years ago

    @ teh9182

    I think you'll find you're being negged purely for posting like a childish arsehole.

  • lukaz #25 2 years ago

    Worthless for many without OtherOS.

  • ChuckNorris #26 2 years ago

    Teh, it's been too long since last you spoke... We eagerly await another 50-comment rant about how much better live is. Please inform us!

  • Beano #27 2 years ago

    "Appear offline option please."

    Agreed. I really don't like that my info like trophies is visible to everyone... even to people not even owning a PS3!

  • StevilKnevil #28 2 years ago

    /logs in to PSN to look up Beanos trophy collection

  • AllenSpawn #29 2 years ago

    Not at home at the moment, so I can't check...... But I think there is an appear offline option.
    I think you press triangle over your profile to select options and go from there. Pretty sure I've used it.

  • CaptainQuint #30 2 years ago

    In the eloquent words of Oscar Wilde: "Any man who expresses a sense of disappointment, or dissatisfaction, or indeed a desire for improvement, with regards to their PS3's user interface is by default, a fucking twat-faced xbot cunt."

  • Beano #31 2 years ago

    "logs in to PSN to look up Beanos trophy collection"

    No need to log into PSN to see them :o

  • Goodfella #32 2 years ago

    I think most will agree there is room for improvement on both the XMB and the 360 dashboard. Personally I think the dashboard is a garish mess but that's probably because I'm a PS3 fanboy, apparently.

    @AllenSpawn, there has been (for a long time) the option to set your status as 'not available', which I guess means' show as offline'.

  • Beano #33 2 years ago

    "People have been asking where the fuck cross-game chat is since the PS3 launched and that still hasn't been added. Mind you, that doesn't help them sell their new, really expensive 3D TVs. "

    So true - but it could be far worse : Some useless Facebook or Twitter integration in the XMB which could not be turned off :(

  • Retroid #34 2 years ago

    Apparently, if you get a Platinum Trophy you can actually lamp someone in the room with it. In 3D.

  • Chupakun #35 2 years ago

    According to this site, the update is 'brick'-ing consoles? I wonder if this is true. I suppose if a 3.31 is released it might confirm such but let's hope those cases are unrelated to the update. I want to play some Uncharted 2 Siege!
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 10:41

  • laharl80 #36 2 years ago

    @teh9182
    Its strange that you keep banging on about the evils of Sony fanboys because the only fanboy comments i can see in this entire comment section are the xbot ones coming from you.

  • Beano #37 2 years ago

    @teh9182 : "but hey, you keep defending Sony regardless! "

    Are you completely retarded??

    For example I wrote :

    "...I would like some privacy settings like the 360 has. That my number one wish for PS3 :) "

    ...and later...

    "Agreed. I really don't like that my info like trophies is visible to everyone... even to people not even owning a PS3! "

    I think you are seeing PS3-fanboys everywhere or mistake nuanced opinions as fanboyism!

    EDIT: What laharl80 said!
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 10:29

  • el_pollo_diablo #38 2 years ago

    I'd love them to get rid of that annoying orange "new and recent" panel that does nothing, but other than that I'm happy with the XMB.

    Trophy sorting does seem a little pointless though, I'd much rather have a couple more options to hide my rarely played downloads (Super Rub-a-dub says hello).

  • Beano #39 2 years ago

    "Trophy sorting does seem a little pointless though, I'd much rather have a couple more options to hide my rarely played downloads (Super Rub-a-dub says hello)."

    May I give a constructive suggestion?

    Use the "album" tag to group your PSN games. I have 4-5 groups personally. Not as useful as a "real" folder feature would be, but it's possible to do and works :)

  • ChuckNorris #40 2 years ago

    @teh
    I am not an idiot. I wouldn't get thrown into this discussion with you even if my life depended on it. You have been abrasive in all arguments and completely unwilling to accept that not everyone shares your priorities regarding what is "good value". My complaint against this update is that it should have been released together with the last one.

    Even if you post hundreds of flickers of your ps3 collection i will always doubt that they are yours. As a gamer who actually owns both consoles and pays for a gold subscription, i really don't understand your pathos. The online services are different but both have their own merits and depending on preference will appeal to different people. There is no big truth behind this. Also, relax. As farty you will eventually come to accept that no intelligent soul cares about your "scientificly quantifiable" arguments.
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 10:38

  • CaptainQuint #41 2 years ago

    ^QFT

  • el_pollo_diablo #42 2 years ago

    @Beano

    I did try that a while back but for some reason I wasn't happy with it. I'll give it another go.
    What would be awesome would be the ability to sort by type (PS1, PS3, MINI, DEMO etc) but also by Genre.
    I wont hold my breath :)

  • Beano #43 2 years ago

    "I use my PS3 more than my 360, but agree that the XMB was spoiled by the 3.0 update. "

    How was it spoiled?

    I'm not markeing you down btw, but just curious since you give no details.

  • Beano #44 2 years ago

    @el_pollo_diablo: Yes try again :) ... Enter the desired group name as Album (in Information for each game) and then press square button to group the games. Good luck :)

  • CaptainQuint #45 2 years ago

    "I'm not markeing you down btw, but just curious since you give no details."

    Leave the dirty business to the hot and bothered crowd.

    If you type it, they will come...

  • Beano #46 2 years ago

    He he he :)

  • rubbery #47 2 years ago

    So we still have browser issues, DLNA issues, iplayer issues, no cross game chat but we at last can sort our trophies, what a relief.

    It will also be nice to have another update to see what Sony has managed to break this time round!

  • Collymilad #48 2 years ago

    Ah great, another extremely slow update, cheers Sony (not internet connection, speedtest says 7.5Mbps, and XBL is quick)

    Also, NXE > XMB. If you think NXE is hard to navigate, don't reproduce.

  • Beano #49 2 years ago

    "It used to look lovely, but then they blew it up with big type like an early learning centre toy. "

    I don't understand what you mean?... are you talking about the font?

    Looks identically to me (on my 1080p display), but I belive you can change the XMB font type. You can also change the theme back to classic if you don't like the new sparkly default theme.

    @Collymilad: Wireless user?
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 11:22

  • ChuckNorris #50 2 years ago

    Wow, once again teh, you're totally missing the point.

    Earl, pardon my english. I'm a swede. And that's how we roll.

  • Widge #51 2 years ago

    I hope they put cross game chat it, not so I can use it, so it just SHUTS PEOPLE UP ON WEBSITES.

  • sfp_noodle #52 2 years ago

    @teh9182

    u know, i respect everyones opinions on this website, providing they are constructive and backed up by reasonable fact or theory. but u are the first, and i mean first user who ive had to log in and post this - SHUT THE FUCK UP! i think i speak for everyone on this site, regardless of what platform their loyalties lean towards. u constantly post on threads to masterbate over the 360 and piss on ANY news PS3 related be it good or bad. and no, dont use ur ridiculous arguement of 'if u dnt like what im saying dont read it.' i think its pretty obvious tht NO-ONE here likes what u say. its not about whether u are right or wrong, its coz u are quite simply, an arrogant prick. and thts incredible ironic because u actually mentioned u dont like arrogant ppl in the PSN vs XBOX thread a few days ago.

    u criticise every member on this site unless they agree with u completely, but i have to say, there are not many tht do. and every member tht shares a different opinion to u, u feel the need to call them childish names. ur actually worse than a member called donnie who used to troll these threads not so long ago. but whilst his comments were mildly amusing, urs are written with such agression tht i wonder if ur an actual MS employee who jus got denied ur annual bonus and is working towards earning next years cash

    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 11:20

  • CaptainQuint #53 2 years ago

    @widge

    Are you a registered blind? If not you could just disable Windows Text-to-Speech. Problem solved.

  • ChuckNorris #54 2 years ago

    Watch out noodle! You are being a complete ps3 fanboy and teh will call you on it. Agree or perish!

  • sfp_noodle #55 2 years ago

    ^^

    see even if he calls me a ps3 fanboy hes making himself out to be an even bigger idiot. i invite everyone to check out my games collection and reach their own conclusion. but one thing u will all find consistent is tht, if anything, i game more on my 360 than my ps3. i jus call bullshit when i see, but teh extends far beyond the realms of bullshit

  • BabyJesus #56 2 years ago

    Just checked they have updated the flash.

    Excellent.

  • CaptainQuint #57 2 years ago

    I don't actually mind teh, I think his posts are entertaining. He does go overboard, but I'm inclined to agree with the sentiment that it almost seems like a criminal offense for someone to even suggest that Sony's dashboard isn't as good as it could/should be. Even if one thinks it the bees knees, it shouldn't be jumped all over if someone else states that they aren't as happy with it as they are. There seems to be handful of Sony paramilitaries who rather zealously won't accept any criticism of their sacred machine, turning everything into a console war.

    The mass downrating of comments alone is friggin' hilarious.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 11:33

  • laharl80 #58 2 years ago

    I think he's probably norwegian

  • ChuckNorris #59 2 years ago

    I tend to agree with you captain on this matter, but it goes both ways. It's unfair to assume that one population of rabid retards is more retarded than the other when all evidence points to them being equally retarded. The console hatred wars have harvested their fair share of casualties on both sides.

    Edit: @earl lol, you smug guy you
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 11:49

  • laharl80 #60 2 years ago

    @teh9182
    Actually the PS3 has the highest rated library in console history.
    Google it or copy and paste.
    http://ww w.nowgamer.com/news/2801/ps3-ha...
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 12:02

  • ChuckNorris #61 2 years ago

    And that's exactly why everybody hates you teh. Because, as you say, you don't care about what anybody says. Your arguments have nothing to do with the actual conversation people are having with you. You completely disregard EVERYONE.

  • kangarootoo #62 2 years ago

    @teh9182

    Look, we get it, you only own one console and as such you feel the need to battle any suggestion it is not perfect. As otherwise you might sometimes feel envy, and that is not an emotion you handle well.

    You aren't the first, its not your fault, you have our pity.


    And if you yourself are older than 14... I hate to tell you, but that simply means you have no excuse.

  • Beano #63 2 years ago

    @teh: "...their machine is lacking lots of features of its nearest rival..."

    Sure, PS3 is lacking some 360 features and some features can be better, but you totally disregard or downplay features and advantages PS3 have over 360 - and when Sony is adding new features to prepare for new tech like 3D TVs, you bash them for it and call is totally useless. But that's PS3 fanboyims to point that out I guess - everybody not agreeing 100% with you are 14 year old PS3 fanboys. No middleground allowed.
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 12:09

  • ignatiusjreilly #64 2 years ago

    teh1982 has almost single-handedly taken 3 threads past a comment-count of 100 in the past few days. EG should give him a special hat or something, they must love him.

  • ChuckNorris #65 2 years ago

    A tin foil hat.

  • ignatiusjreilly #66 2 years ago

    Or one with a big D on it.

  • kangarootoo #67 2 years ago

    Lol at you guys :)

  • Acrid #68 2 years ago

    The people bitching and moaning about the frequency of updates would be bitching and moaning just the same if the updates were every month. Personally I appreciate Sony updating the firmware frequently I'd rather have my system as up to date as possible, plus those of us on an ADSL connection need small updates rather than having to wait while a several-hundred MB update downloads at the end of the month.

    In short, shut the fuck up.

  • laharl80 #69 2 years ago

    Metacritic includes ratings from official console mags,edge and just about anyone else who claims to be a game critic.
    I think i'll stick with non-partisan famitsu.

  • ChuckNorris #70 2 years ago

    "I own all of the current consoles, including handhelds, and a gaming PC. It's nice when you don't have to rely on mummy and daddy to buy you things, you see."

    Yeah it's nice isn't it? When your so totally great and everyone totally thinks that you're awesome.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 12:25

  • ChuckNorris #71 2 years ago

    Lahar, i would give that famitsu zero notice. It is in a best case scenario only applicable to the japanese market. Also refrain from feeding the troll.

  • kangarootoo #72 2 years ago

    @teh9182

    "I own all of the current consoles, including handhelds, and a gaming PC"

    Then what in the name of all that is remotely sensible is your f*cking problem?!?


    All that quoting of review scores is lost on me, as it was never part of a discussion i was involved in.

    To summarise what me and pretty much everyone has been saying in this thread. WE aren't saying the PS3 is perfect in every way over the 360, WE are just saying that it is nonsense for you to suggest the same of the 360.

    Do you get it? In your fury you have completely missed or ignored everyone else's opinions. You have instead created opinions for all of us, in direct opposition to your own mad opinions, seemingly so that you can remain at odds with us.

    There is clearly something in your psyche that makes you crave conflict? Or maybe you need the conflict because you need a situation in which you can feel you are right, and showing everyone else that they are wrong?

    "A little tip for you - In your next reply, you should say "but the 360 has been out longer, so it would have a better catalogue!"."

    You are even giving me lines in order than I can fill the role you need to me to fill in your little drama! :)



    There is clearly some history going on here. I hope it isn't the result of you getting bullied at school, I mean that very sincerely. I don't understand why you are so angry, why you need to show everyone how right you are and how wrong they are, and I'm not sure anybody else here does either.

    We can't give you what you want, so we just end up laughing at you, and its starting to feel a little cruel. It would save you time to just accept that and chase a fanboy fight somewhere else. Or maybe just try and pause for thought, and think about why the only thing that seems to matter to you is disagreeing with people.

  • Goodfella #73 2 years ago

    A little tip for you - In your next reply, you should say "but the 360 has been out longer, so it would have a better catalogue!". A bit of goalpost shifting, lol. I wonder who will be first to do that........

    Me, if you want to play that little game, teh, how about the 360 being out longer than the PS3, so it will always be playing catchup? Ok, it's only 6 months behind for the US and Japanese market (1 year for Europe) but 6 months is a long time in the world of gaming. :D
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 12:38

  • laharl80 #74 2 years ago

    @teh9182
    Surely its better to use a highly respected mag with no bias like famitsu as a source than a joke site like metacritic.
    Also don't forget that the 360 had a headstart and consequently has more games which would drive up its average.
    I don't understand what sort of deviant thrill an xbot like you would get from spending his morning criticising a firmware update for a console you probably don't even own.

  • Goodfella #75 2 years ago

    Oh no, teh predicted and he was right, even though I read your post and said I'd respond to it. Genius.

    Kangaroo is right, you just disregard everyones opinions as insignificant and stamp your own as fact, all thw while seemingly craving conflict, it's quite amusing. Surely if a console is out longer then it will have more games, simple logistics, but apparently it doesn't count in your world, it's called 'goalpost shifting'.

  • makeamazing #76 2 years ago

    Ah every so often a muppet comes along, this month its Teh... oh well kids have been off school and such (perhaps hes been excluded for being a naughty child or something)...

    As someone else said, i would rather have the ability to remove certain trophies that i dont want to see on the list. I remember i downloaded a demo for one game and played it for 5 mins, and it added a trophy list for it... 0% forever for that game.

  • Goodfella #77 2 years ago

    String of people insulting you? Haha.

    I guess you've conveniently forgotten all the insults you've been throwing around.

  • kangarootoo #78 2 years ago

    Delusional.

    Right down the crazy laugh at the end of the sentence.

  • kangarootoo #79 2 years ago

    "cos they'd all say "but we love you Sony and it's perfect just as it is!!!". "

    Utterly, completely delusional.

  • Goodfella #80 2 years ago

    Once again just making stuff up, has anyone here said they wouldn't like those features? I don't think so, I know I haven't but apparently all the comments are from raving PS3 fanboys and you seem to have forgotten the whole point of the discussion to begin with, it was about the layout of the XMB and it's supposed 'clutter', not which console has the better online service and related features.

  • Goodfella #81 2 years ago

    Debating? Laugh, I nearly cried!

  • kangarootoo #82 2 years ago

    "You're not up to the task of debating with me. :)"


    Now I can be known to have a bit of a high opinion of myself when it comes to some things, but THAT is the single, without equal, funniest thing I've EVER read on these pages in all the years I've been posting here.

    Of ALL the people that might have ever said that to me, it had to be you. Just. Amazing.

  • makeamazing #83 2 years ago

    Well i like Sony and i like the PS3, so get over it Teh... any little childish spat you might have in your fanboy brain what change my mind one iota.

  • kangarootoo #84 2 years ago

    "Try saying something that actually has some substance for a change!"

    You are a cock.

  • ChuckNorris #85 2 years ago

    Kangaroo has a point. It's getting to the point where i'm starting to feel like a bully. Teh is obviously unable to understand the basics of conversation and any attempt to enlighten him to the errors of his thought process is a fool's crusade. I'm one semester short of a medical degree and my professional opinion is that there is no cure for what teh is suffering from.

  • Beano #86 2 years ago

    "Not according to Metacritic it doesn't. Of course, your link uses only Famitsu scores as the metric for judging which console has the best library, but picking one source - particularly a Japanese one, where the 360 isn't a major player - is somewhat flawed."

    For once I actually agree with you.

    Out of intrest, I did a quick search for the number of exclusive PS3 & 360 titles rated 90% or above on metacritic...

    2010
    PS3: 1
    360: 1

    2009
    PS3: 3
    360: 1

    2008
    PS3: 2
    360: 1

    2007
    PS3: 0
    360: 2

    Yes it's only titles rates 90% or better, but the numbers seem to support my own observation and taste: that the last two years have been better on PS3 while 2007 (and 2006 duh!) was better on 360. 2010 looks 50/50 based on what has been release and announced so far. Just another (and unscientific) way to look at the numbers.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 13:10

  • kangarootoo #87 2 years ago

    I'm sorry, but its just too easy.

    I am chuckling away here to myself at my own wit, fully entertained by how funny I am being at your expense. And that is never a good place for anyone to be, not if one wants to retain a humane level of modesty.

    But its like you are giving out Xmas presents every time you write something.

  • kangarootoo #88 2 years ago

    @ChuckNorris

    I agree. I am starting to think there is something actually wrong. It stops being funny when you think it might be a condition.

  • makeamazing #89 2 years ago

    Chuck, there is a fix, its called growing up... unfortunately he is probably very young... you see it alot on the internet, these kiddies thinking they are being "cool"... sooner or later he will realise that he is on a pointless crusade... defending a peice of electronic equipment/plastic which has just as many flaws as any other electronic device. Unfortunately we have to wait until after he has gone through pubity... and probably a few more years.... so it may be a while :)

  • Beano #90 2 years ago

    "Every comment in this thread that has remotely painted the PS3 in a negative light has been neg voted multiple times. Any comment that defends Sony, puts the 360 down, or attacks me, has been voted up multiple times. It's a proper little Sony fanboy circle jerk in here. "

    It's not what you say (your opinion) that make people marking your posts down - it's the name calling, attitude and black-or-white approach you have.

  • ChuckNorris #91 2 years ago

    Being crazy is not a laughing matter as you point out kanga, but they do say the darnest things. The crazies i mean.

  • laharl80 #92 2 years ago

    If the 360 is such a superior machine why not just sell the PS3 you supposedly own and be happy?
    Last time i checked there was only one sure cure for rabies.

  • makeamazing #93 2 years ago

    This guy reminds me of CountMuppet... ah whatever happend to that guy, he was only about 16... perhaps its teh is him.

  • ChuckNorris #94 2 years ago

    Makeamazing, i'm am well aware of that. But some children grow up to become insane.

  • Beano #95 2 years ago

    "It's a shame that there's nobody here to have a debate with apart from horribly inept teenagers and retards."

    Yes, I have not idea either why people are marking your posts down.... no idea... very strange indeed.

  • Goodfella #96 2 years ago

    Nothing you say to me changes the fact that the PS3 is last in sales, last in features and last in terms of games catalogues, but you vent that frustration how you see fit. lol.

    But you're the only one ranting about these things, until you enter the 'room' it seemed to be quite a rational place.

  • Beano #97 2 years ago

    "It is an objectively inferior machine and that can be backed up by looking at games catalogues and gaming related features."

    No, it's still just your opinion.

  • ChuckNorris #98 2 years ago

    Beano, Teh is a fundamentalist. The ol' "opinions aren't facts" argument has no bearing in his mind.

  • el_pollo_diablo #99 2 years ago

    Hi commenters,

    I'm confused. Perhaps you can help me out here. The thing is I own a PS3 and I really like it. I mean, not all the games are good but some are. I can watch Mad Men on it. That's nice. I do wish I could play Gears of War and Alan Wake on it but I can't. It's not the end of the world though. It's just one of those things.

    The thing is I don't really care what's happening on other machines because I'm happy with what I have. Does this make me an idiot?

  • king2001 #100 2 years ago

    But who is better? teh9182 or kangarootoo?

    There's only one way to find out...

  • GamesConnoisseur #101 2 years ago

    This was just a firmware update article and now another battleground being used for console fanboys!

    I was just reading earlier comments and struck dumb literally by fans saying that there is no need for anything to improve and that Sony has been good.

    PLEASE WAKE UP you idiots!

    Those comments just reinforce opinions of fanboys who cannot see anything wrong with their favourite console and yet throwing all muds the other way. Doing so would only ilicit the same idiot responses from the other side of the fence!!

    Look... I would not sell PS3 even if at a profit, but I can darned well see that Sony arent always doing PS3 owners favours.

    PSN Europe store contents compared to other regions AND yet we are also supposedly the most important advantage region for Sony worldwide... what gives?!

    Promises pre launch still not always matched, SixAxis supposedly advantages arent really much used and quite forgotten nowdays in 2010.

    Yes Sony are the one pushing 3D and Move as the next big thing and that is good, but please ensure that the current important PS3 features that was promised to serves gamers well are doing so. Such as Home, PSN Store, ideal firmware updates (listed by others above) are all properly supported and delivered.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 13:36

  • Beano #102 2 years ago

    @teh9182 : I will think about you the next time I play a 256 player MAG match without lag on dedicated lines and servers and with crisp voice chat - 100% free. Very inferior online service that PSN is, yes.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 13:42

  • ChuckNorris #103 2 years ago

    Yes devil chicken. It makes you an idiot. Now please go to the xbox corner and scream at the top of your lungs how xbox is inferior because of: rrod, noise level, gold fee, m$, brown shooter fetish, too human failing, etc. Then, maybe, you'll be as awesome as teh

  • ChuckNorris #104 2 years ago

    @ GamesConnoisseur

    i hope that you do not get negged for that as you are completely right about sony, features that are missing and fanboys unwillingness to admit this. But never has this thread been about that.

  • M_of_the_sys #105 2 years ago

    Wow. Looks like teh9182 has done it again. It's quite funny because Kangarootoo is the most sensible, non-biased poster I've ever seen and is being called a blind fanboy. Oh dear.

  • Beano #106 2 years ago

    @teh9182 : I just picked the one Im playing right now, enjoy a lot and haven't seen anything like it on Live. I can easily mention 5-6 other great online PSN titles with 32-64 players on dedicated lines which offers zero lag and great voice chat - all for free. But you will just disregard any other opinion than "Live is the best and PSN is pure crap" as fanboyism. All you do is reverting to namecalling when you have no real arguments - sad.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 14:00

  • ChuckNorris #107 2 years ago

    You have convinced me teh.

    /off to throw my ps3 into the fireplace

    ps. Kangarootoo has merely been making us laugh at your expense as previous threads have shown that you have zero interest in having a healthy conversation.
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 14:05

  • mkreku #108 2 years ago

    You'd think a person getting exactly ALL of his comments in a comment section downrated to take a hint, but nooo. Good job there, teh3457376456.

  • jefranklin18 #109 2 years ago

    So anyway, how about that 3D then? ;)

  • ChuckNorris #110 2 years ago

    He's a bot! I've finally managed to understand it. He's not a proper person!

  • ChuckNorris #111 2 years ago

    Don't answer it...

  • onyxbox #112 2 years ago

    @teh9182

    Dude, you need help... seriously. You're getting such a reputation around these parts that people *are* just f'ing with you :D

  • M_of_the_sys #113 2 years ago

    Does this FW update run in sub-HD?

  • Beano #114 2 years ago

    @teh9182 : My point was the two services have different advantages and disadvanages. I don't see one service much better than the other : they both allow users to play online games and the level of "fun" depends on the game and the players - not the underlying service alone. Sure Live have some nice features than PSN is missing (like cross-game chat) and has uniform features, while PSN is more open towards dedicated servers for example - something like MAG use to do something different in the genre. A shame you are dissing great PSN games like MAG - but that's your loss, not mine.

  • laharl80 #115 2 years ago

    @PatAU
    The flash player upgrade was worth an update.

  • rprince #116 2 years ago

    3D TVs are out today:
    http://ww w.johnlewis.com/230943972/Produ...

  • Beano #117 2 years ago

    "I'm the one that's fucking with them."

    Sound more like you are the one yelling a screaming like a little exited girl by calling people names and accusing them of being 14 year old fanboys. No?
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 14:26

  • Beano #118 2 years ago

    @teh: You are the pot calling the kettle black.

  • jefranklin18 #119 2 years ago

    @teh:

    Any reasonable points you may make are lost in the diatribes.

    I have a PS3 but not an Xbox but that does not make me a fan boy. I do not live "mommy" and daddy - my wife would object at a 40 year old still shacked up with his parents. I do not blindly agree with everything Sony do, and I am not interested in 3D - the reason being I have just invested in a home theatre set up more than anything - but I accept that any features that I want may not align with Sony's strategy.

  • dubdivision #120 2 years ago

    All the people on here slagging off a 3d update for the ps3 - I find that scary. Personally I think that 3d gaming is a fantastic bit of technology and as soon as it's affordable I'll be in there.

    P.s. Sony are probs waiting to charge you for xgame chat after claiming that all current features will remain in PSN ("silver";).

  • Graftonator #121 2 years ago

    Teh, I agree that there are still features to be added to PSN (cross game chat as we all keep going on about) but think about it. If you'd just spent £1500+ on a new 3DTV and got it home and wanted to use your PS3 on it, in glorious 3D, as you have been promised. But, horror of horrors, Sony have released a new firmare that does not enable 3D but instead some other "useless" feature (PS2 backwards compatibility for example?). A feature as a 3DTV owner, you are not bothered about. I imagine you'd be pretty annoyed, I know I would be.

    Unless you think that new things shouldn't come out. Maybe we should all be playing SNES on our 14" CRTs and recording cassette tapes for long car journeys... Damn Sony, Microsoft or any other company for trying to help sell any of their new products!!

    And saying you'd say the same thing about Microsoft loses it's meaning when you refer to them releasing 3DTVs, a market I am yet to notice their involvement. I have noticed recently that Office 2010 won't work on Windows XP but I'm sure that's TOTALLY different! ;)

  • kangarootoo #122 2 years ago

    @teh918


    "Yes, this is probably the best you can do"

    God, are you still going?

    Let me explain the situation to you, regards your post above.

    1. You mistakenly assume that debating with you is my intention. It is not. Your inability to engage in debate prohibits that, and I know when my time is wasted.

    What sort of fool would persist in trying to explain physics to a park bench? Its not my fault you are the park bench, any more than it is yours - it WOULD however be fault if I kept trying to reason with you with you are so clearly lost to your padded room. I am neither a nursery nurse, nor am I psychologist, so I freely admit I lack the skills to break through to you.


    2. My ACTUAL intention at this stage is amuse myself and others by insulting you. And I actually thought my "you are a cock" comment was pretty snappy, given it took less than a second to think of.

    And for the record, in my efforts to insult you and amuse myself, I am not even close to the best I can do. You provide so much ammunition all by yourself, I've pretty much been on auto-pilot. Cue your extraordinarily witty "it shows" riposte, after which we shall no doubt fall about laughing.... but not for the reasons you would like.


    And after scanning through the rest of the posts that have accumulated in my absence, I see you have started bandying the term ad hominem about the place. You haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. Ad hominem is attempting to undermine a point of view by attacking the speaker. You HAVE no point of view, and when I call you a cock, I am not attacking your opinion I am attacking you (for fun, as previously stated)



    I wonder if a park bench can be blamed for not realising it is a park bench?

  • sfp_noodle #123 2 years ago

    *waves at teh*

    hey buddy im back, remember me?! :D

    now see, ive been going thru ur post history, and u actually come accross as an intelligent chap who makes constructive, thoughtful comments. but for some reason, over the past week, uve been acting...now how do i put it...hopelessly insane. thts the one! what happened buddy? MS not give u ur bonus? sony didnt let uncharted or heavy rain appear on 360? ur boyfriend left u? tell us teh, we're all here for u. let it allllllllllll out :)
    Edited by 2 at 22/04/10 @ 15:26

  • sfp_noodle #124 2 years ago

    teh says -

    'But I'm debating people's points constantly. You, on the other hand, are trying to carry out some kind of amateur personality analysis on me or something. Stop wasting your time and just fuck off. You've added nothing to this thread and you continue to type huge posts that are complete wastes of space. Hop on out of here, Skippy.'

    take a deep breath...now laugh out hysterically at the irony ppl.

  • laharl80 #125 2 years ago

    @teh9182
    "You've added nothing to this thread and you continue to type huge posts that are complete wastes of space. Hop on out of here, Skippy."
    Before you came along with your 360 fanboy bullshit this thread was relatively sensible and even handed.
    You've even admitted that your intention is to piss people off so maybe you should take your own advice.

  • StevilKnevil #126 2 years ago

    Its a lovely day outside, nice and sunny. Its in 3d too!
    +6 hours on the internet arguing about a firmware update...

  • kangarootoo #127 2 years ago

    "Only to piss off the fanboys"

    Hmmmm.



    Just then they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that rise from that plain. And no sooner did Don Quixote see them that he said to his squire, "Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless."

    "What giants?" asked Sancho Panza.

    "Those you see over there," replied his master, "with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length."

    "Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills. Those things that seem to be their arms are sails which, when they are whirled around by the wind, turn the millstone."

  • Ducklord #128 2 years ago

    I love it when nerdy retards come online and decide to declare how others are fanboys/nerds/etc, just so they can make themselves feel better :)

  • ChuckNorris #129 2 years ago

    This whole situation reminds of of a great scene from South Park, where Cartmans mom gets help from cesar milan to get him to behave.

    Cesar:So tell me what are the problems you are having with the child?
    Liane:Well, he's just... out of control. I mean, he never listens to me, and he pretty much runs my life.
    Cesar:So the child needs to learn that he's not the most important person in the house.
    Cartman:You can stop talkin' behind my back; I'm right here, fruitcake.
    Cesar:See I'm not looking at the child, I'm not acknowledging the child, I'm just letting the child know I'm not interested in him.
    Cartman:Not interested im me?
    Cesar:See the child thinks your world revolves around him, because it does. Because everything he does gets a response from you.
    Cartman:Yeah, well I don't see why-
    Cesar:[pinches him on the neck]Tsst.
    Cartman:Hey!
    Cesar:Don't look at the child; just keep looking at me. Let, let him know we are having a conversation
    Edited by 1 at 22/04/10 @ 20:24

  • Darren #130 2 years ago

    Oh joy, I'm sure this new firmware update will be of interest to the 1,000 or so PS3 owners worldwide that'll be buying these new Bravia HDTVs. Well I do want a new HDTV but certainly not a 3D one...

  • Goodfella #131 2 years ago

    Its a lovely day outside, nice and sunny.

    Yes it's beautiful, I've been out to a country pub and a meal for the last few hours and had a great time, meanwhile tehfailure is still talking bollocks, sorry I mean 'debating'. Hilarious.

  • CaptainQuint #132 2 years ago

    Personally, I think you're all a bunch of twats!

  • jefranklin18 #133 2 years ago

    @Goodfella

    I hate you* - I have been stuck at work.

    * Naturally, all feelings of "hate" are purely out of jealousyat not being in a pub and not in anyway representative of fanboy loyalties that may or not be perceived by the recipient or any other party. In fact, I don't even hate Goodfella...

  • BritishBlue1 #134 2 years ago

    I can't wait till we come to a point, in the future, where consoles become a thing of the past. Maybe then, comment sections like this will become a thing of the past too. It's depressing to read.

  • alcides #135 2 years ago

    @teh

    I would feel sorry for you, but I have hit the "ignore poster" long, loooong ago.
    It baffles me that you can STILL poison threads with your obnoxious trolling through the answers you are getting.

    Don't feed the obvious troll.
    Edited by 1 at 23/04/10 @ 01:04

  • man.the.king #136 2 years ago

    For whatever reason, teh9182 seems to have gone insane. As far as I know (from the content of his past posts anyway), although he never was a fan of the PS3, he wasn't always like this. What happened - did he get laid off or fired or dumped or divorced or expelled or evicted or something equally unsavoury?
    Edited by 3 at 23/04/10 @ 04:52

  • laharl80 #137 2 years ago

    At the risk of being on topic i notice the flash update still hasn't made zshare work again which is annoying.