PS3: 12 Games of Christmas

By Eurogamer staff Published 2 November, 2007

Tumbling down the chimney.

Another good thing about Christmas is that you can kiss people by holding a twig with leaves above their heads, made all the more likely by the enormous vat of incredibly pungent mulled wine stewing in the kitchen. Similarly smile-worthy is that yes there are games on PS3 to buy this year, despite what James with his rival console says in the comments section while picking his nose and flicking it at his equally spotty friend.

It may be largely thanks to a very alluring cross-platform Christmas line-up, but Sony is not without its exclusives, especially now it has finally clamped SingStar PS3 down for release this side of 2008. There is also the gorgeous-looking Ratchet & Clank to shout about, unique Eye of Judgement to, er, look at, and those timed star-players Unreal Tournament III and Haze.

We will also be telling you about a couple of sumptuous and frankly unmissable PlayStation Network games, too, because we feel we ought to and not because we are trying to make the numbers up a bit, promise. Look out for our unprecedented and enormously enjoyable facts, too.

Eye of Judgement

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Magic attack. Presumably from that chap in the middle.

Novelty is something Eye of Judgement very recognisably has, but underneath it all is a deep, statistical and compelling game that shows why card battling games have stood the test of time.

Each intricately illustrated card brings with it countless advantages and disadvantages you will have to carefully consider for a wide variety of situations. Think of it as a little like chess, only where you scan your lifeless pieces in and watch them come to life majestically on your telly. Options should only increase with time, too, as collecting booster packs and additional decks vastly expands your army.

Another reason to fork out GBP 60 on Eye of Judgement is because it comes bundled with the PlayStation Eye, a freshly created piece of hardware four times more powerful than its predecessor and more keenly supported by Sony. Or is it? Our review should be up soon, at which point you'll know whether it's 12 or really 11.

Dead pixels: Sony claims the Eye has four times the resolution and twice the frame-rate of the original EyeToy. It also looks like the head of a pigeon conjoined with a hair straightener.

Haze

'PS3: 12 Games of Christmas' Screenshot haze

Busy, busy, bumble bees.

Drugs can do all sorts of things, like give make you run faster than everyone else in the Olympics and resign from tennis. But bad things also happen - Ben Johnson had to give back his Gold Medal and was publicly disgraced. Free Radical liked this concept and built a game around it.

You are an ex-soldier of global military company Mantle, who pumps its troops full of Nectar so they are stronger, faster and tougher than anyone else. But, as you know, it also leaves them vulnerable, and you and your rebel forces will have to use your brains to exploit this. While high, a Mantle soldier will let you approach because your audacity confuses them - providing you with an opportunity to steal their weapon and smash it back in their chops. Or you can play dead and they will simply assume that is what you are, until you pop up behind them and shoot their face. Think them dead.

It is an interesting prospect with a strong team behind it, and this self-described "thinking man's game" also has four-player co-operative mode. And it is exclusive. For a while.

Shouting: When we were at UbiDays, Rob Yescombe, Haze's "quite loud" writer man, was blatantly chatting up one of the UbiDays booth girls right in front of us, and seemed to be doing quite well but then had to stop to show off the game.

Assassin's Creed

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"Oh woe is me, I have a weird neck and you are in a dress."

Here we are, perched on a rooftop surveying a crowd of grubby and toothless mongrels ambling about their daily Jerusalem-in-the-middle-ages business, scouring their faces for the person we have to kill. There. Off we go, integrated with the crowd, moving inconspicuously closer. Our blade slips silently into the open, then we spring, muscles exploding familiarly as we brutally and efficiently destroy our target.

Now the real test begins. Our legs pound breathlessly as we plough through unforgiving crowds still numb with the lack of DualShock. Pursuing guards are gaining ground so we turn and face them, anticipating their heavy lunges before replying with a deft and fatal riposte. More appear, so we leap up to beams connecting buildings and launch ourselves like gymnasts further and further skywards. Finally, back where birds make their nests, we relax, preparing ourselves to do it all over again.

Kill me now: The big old secret underpinning Assassin's Creed is that Altair, hay bounding assassin, is actually a 40-something American scientist, trapped in the past, leaping from life to life, putting things right that once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home.

LocoRoco Cocoreccho!

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Drown as many as you can.

Rolling singing blobs around around a level was so fresh, charming and original on PSP that we told you about it with gay abandon while smiling. But none of that stopped us being a little lost for words when the PS3 version was unveiled as an Interactive Screensaver. How very silly (and untrue) that was.

Cocoreccho only has one map and that is all it needs. For all the reasons the original hit the right notes so does this, as you use your Sixaxis to tilt your singing LocoRoco to the end of the beautifully drawn level, avoiding all sorts of obstacles as you go. Even on your fourth go you will discover hidden treats and rarely feel bored, highlighting why this is worth every penny of its GBP 1.99 price tag. Which is so ludicrously little anyway that only a complete miser would turn it down.

Up above, you're in love: Mui Muis can be found in certain areas of the level, and appear to be completely unreachable. But they're not!

Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction

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Soon they will be dancing to a different beat.

This could be the first game to deliver the "you are playing a Pixar movie experience", boasted developer Insomniac in September, and it does look bloody lovely, never grinding to a halt despite ladles of activity being poured into every scene. But nothing much has changed - Ratchet & Clank are still Ratchet & Clank, just with all sorts of next-generation plastic surgery.

But the wheel is still the wheel and it works well because it does what it does. Ratchet & Clank was fun and still is; you can make your enemies disco-dance or turn them into penguins, before smashing them to pieces with your wrench and collecting all the nuts and bolts littered around. Games like LEGO Star Wars took hefty doses of inspiration from Ratchet & Clank, but now Insomniac is ready to show us, once again, how platforming should be done.

Cattish: Ratchet is a fictional animal called a Lombax, which is a bit like a bobcat. Except he can fire guns and talk. And go in space.

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

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Frank had always been worst at hide and seek.

Style can be learnt, but you know when something effortlessly oozes charm that it had it by the bucket-load to begin with. Call of Duty 4 has it; you will notice it when you cower behind cover that your hungry and fearless enemies are blown away bullet-by-bullet, or when you are stalking through believable Middle-Eastern streets amid destroyed buildings and rubble from you most recent negotiations.

You will believe it when you get sucked into a story the designers want to feel like "an entire series of 24", one not afraid to tackle contemporary politics and make each set-piece and action sequence feel like its big-screen counterpart would. Finally you will accept it when you venture online and take on your friends in tactical or free-for-all battles, eventually moving up ranks and being rewarded for your hard work.

Although: You'll probably be rubbish at it.

Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

Being addicted to something can land you in a lot of trouble, in this case with your neighbours. From the first moment I cradled an Xplorer guitar and thundered away to a rock song I never even knew existed I was hooked - not only did I believe I could actually play the instrument, but I had my leg perched on the sofa arm and axe upright as I rung out a pedestrian solo on easy. I was unbelievable, although Jane from next-door didn't agree. Witch.

There is something so instantly enjoyable about Guitar Hero it is hard to put it into words, its ingredients so fresh and unique you want more before you even know what you are tasting. Although this is the third game in the series and original developer Harmonix has toddled off, Activision knows it has a gig to deliver, and to silence Rock Band fans it will have to give the performance of its life.

Any is good: A downloadable demo version of Guitar Hero III that you could burn to CDR ended up on the Internet just before it appeared on Xbox Live Marketplace. Which got them more publicity than otherwise. No wonder Activision didn't seem all that bothered.

The Orange Box

  • Release date: November (hopefully)
  • Gamepage

Although not handled directly by Valve, the PlayStation 3 version of this year's biggest FPS bargain is thought to be in good hands at Electronic Arts' UK studio - with Valve marketing director Doug Lombardi expressing great confidence in it to anyone who asks.

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This one is impossible. Give up now.

If true, that would mean that PlayStation 3 is in line for five of the best console FPS games released this year. PS3 ports of Half-Life 2 and its first episodic companion are exciting prospects, and Episode Two, Portal and Team Fortress 2 can only build on that. The latter, in particular, is more good news for PlayStation Network fans, who up to now have been limited to relatively few games - like MotorStorm, Resistance: Fall of Man and WarHawk.

Assuming it all works out - and the PS3 has had, er, difficulties in this area in the past - this should leapfrog its genre stable-mates into PS3 stockings up and down the country.

Cheaply does it: Valve has previously said that it will never charge for downloadable content. PlayStation Network is a free online game service. Put these things together, and the PS3 Orange Box SKU is actually the second cheapest way to enjoy the top-scoring package after buying it on Steam...

Unreal Tournament III

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Bernard was going the wrong way again. Blind bastard.

The PC demo may have a menu system that doesn't support the British keyboard's @ symbol, but it's certainly very shiny - and with new additions like the "slow bubble" and refined gameplay modes, Epic Games is hoping for a Christmas smash hit on the PC to rival Gears of War's huge opening on Xbox 360 last year when multiplayer FPS Unreal Tournament III launches.

Whether it will achieve that is hard to say, but arguably more interesting is the game's fate on PS3, where it is a console exclusive - and due out before the end of the year. User-designed levels will be downloadable, and it will support keyboard and mouse controls - putting it at odds with a lot of its FPS rivals over on Microsoft's competing hardware, many of which could have done with them. Server admins will be able to specify whether their games support one or other or both control options. Oh, and it supports DualShock 3, even if we can't buy the fancy new rumble pad until spring 2008.

Well done: Nearly all the weapons in UT3 hand out killing awards when you accumulate 15 frags with the same weapon. The Bio-Gun calls you Bio Hazard. Not that you'll ever get it because the Bio-Gun's rubbish.

SingStar PS3

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Britney when her apple was on a higher branch.

We've sung songs from every neck of the woods on PS2, because Sony knows how popular its karaoke series is. And when it sold us on the sharing dream of the PS3 version we hummed eagerly in anticipation as we pegged our eyes open and stared at the release schedule. Finally, now, after months of waiting, we will be able to warble our throats-out this side of Christmas. Probably.

Of course you will also be able to download new songs to enlarge your collection and share videos of you singing them with people around the world - also known as The Dream, the big void in the series to date. It is a very special trump card for Sony (crucially not being offered anywhere else) and is ideally positioned to get us into real trouble for wasting loads of money on downloads when we get home from The Cricketer's Ballbags too sozzled to control ourselves.

Do you believe in life after love? I can feel something inside me say I really don't think we're strong enough no.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

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Hangin' tough.

Uncharted is more like Indiana Jones than Tomb Raider if you ask us. Nathan Drake can't do somersaults and fight like Jackie can, Chan, whatever, but he can swing a meaty right hook like that bloke down the pub, point a gun in the right direction, and call on some almighty luck when he needs it. Like you and us he is also a normal chap you can empathize with, and as Naughty Dog put it, "Nate is extraordinary because he is ordinary".

We are ordinary, too, but we don't get to gallivant around ancient temples in the jungle with lovely sunlight, solve puzzles and find unheard-of treasures. But then we also don't get shot at by mean people with AK-47s who came up with the same idea. Everything looks to be coming together lovingly, and hopefully the Naughty Dog magic from its Jak & Daxter days will be here in abundance.

Ouch: Nathan Drake is supposedly descended from Sir Francis Drake, who died from dysentery, which sounds horrible. Don't drink the water.

WarHawk

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PeacePigeon!

WarHawk managed to confuse us all on more than one occasion. First it looked a bit ropey because no one really knew what was going on and what it was trying to do. Then it was a PSN-only game before being back to a full Blu-Ray offering. Finally, now, we know it is available online and in shops and that it is superb.

Taking the guts of a game like Battlefield and rearranging them to create its own Frankenstein, Incognito has managed to make that rare breed of experience that is different and equally enjoyable each and every time, in a way only online gaming provides. For just GBP 19.99 and with continuous updates and content rolling in, it is a forerunner and golden example to others of how a PSN multiplayer experience should be done.

Obvious question: Why not PeacePigeon?

Look out for more games to buy for Christmas next week. Or in the shops.

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  • Nick261007 #1 4 years ago

    Lots of multi platform games there. You must have found it hard to come up with that list. Good luck with the Wii list, best call it 2 games of Christmas.

    Metroid, Mario, ummm that's it I think.

  • lambtron #2 4 years ago

    Eh? I thought UT3 was pretty much confirmed not to make Xmas (at least not on PS3)?

  • Apologie #3 4 years ago

    Ps3 have good games and personally i think it's catalogue are more balanced and diverse.

    i prefer Haze, Uncharted, R&C: TOD and UT3... then Halo3 and Mass Effect.

    Edited by 3 at 02/11/07 @ 15:42

  • mechamonkey #4 4 years ago

    Thats a great line up, just as I said in the 360 rundown, something for everyone but I dare say there avalanche of moaning will follow - fickle gamers bah.

  • Sebo #5 4 years ago

    The saddos are out already.

    I love the xbox 360, but that machines list had eight multiplatform titles on it so how any xbots can come on here and be smug is beyond me.

    Good PS3 list.

    Wii will have Mario, Metroid, Paper Mario, Mario and Sonic at Olympics, Umbrella Chronicles, Guitar Hero, Manhunt, Bully, Tomb Raider Anniversary off top my head

  • Inspirius #6 4 years ago

    Orange Box and UT3 this year is probably stretching the truth slightly.

  • Xerx3s #7 4 years ago

    Eh? I thought UT3 was pretty much confirmed not to make Xmas (at least not on PS3)?

    Hush you.

    ;p

  • Der_tolle_Emil #8 4 years ago

    Some really interesting titles on that list - already owning a 360 though I don't see much reason to think about getting a PS3 although Eye of Judgement and Little Big Planet (plus Everyday Shooter) look very tempting.

  • Yaster #9 4 years ago

    Was there a Wii article similar to this one?

  • Katsumoto #10 4 years ago

    Sigh. What is with people with Nick at the front of their username anyway. Another one for the ignore list!

  • AZA #11 4 years ago

    A good list with some variation, yea theres a lot of cross platform games in there but I'm surprised see UT 3 in there I thought that was a possible early 08 release on the PS3 now?

    I THINK the orange box may make it in time but I'm not a 100% sure mind you, and *sigh* at you first two posters the whole bash PS3 and Wii routine is getting a bit old now.

  • alimokrane #12 4 years ago

    What the hell is WARHAWK doing in there ? that game is a load of SH*T

  • AZA #13 4 years ago

    @ alimokrane

    I hated it too, suppose its the thing with MP only games though, they are like marmite.

    You either love em or you dont
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 15:47

  • richardiox #14 4 years ago

    Isn't LocoRoco a PSN title? Not a problem if it is but odd that EG specifically needed to mention they weren't including XBLA games in the 360 list yesterday.

  • brooza #15 4 years ago

    Any particular reason you've included PSN games when you didn't include XBLA games?

  • urban #16 4 years ago

    whey

  • myiagros #17 4 years ago

    interesting that kane & lynch is on the 360 list but not on the PS3 list. Why?

    both versions come out on the same day.

  • cyacomini #18 4 years ago

    Well done EG for getting 12 together - fantastic acheivement!

  • Hughes. #19 4 years ago

    UT3 seems unlikely to make it, but the rest is great.

  • richardiox #20 4 years ago

    Or as the article itself says, now I've actually read the intro, they were struglling to make up the numbers. Hopefully for PS3 owners, UT3, Singstar and Orange Box will all get released this year. Still got the LBP and Home betas for those who can get on them too.

  • Trane #21 4 years ago

    And the award for worst Sony fanboy goes to: Apologie, yet again.

  • rhinoxious #22 4 years ago

    apologie - apologist

  • cyacomini #23 4 years ago

    @Richariox

    "Isn't LocoRoco a PSN title?"

    No, It's a PSN 'Screensaver'.

  • GamesConnoisseur #24 4 years ago

    Suprised that Eye of Judgement made the grade as not getting all the good reviews, I got the game myself so dont diss me! Of the list I would get Haze, R&CF (despite low score from GAME mag) and Uncharted. Keeping UT3 for PC.

    Some other already got either on X360 or PS3.

    Would be interesting at the end to work out averaged metacritic score of the top 12 of each platform, that would settle the playground arguments of who got the best 12!! Above list is still going to give PS3 owners a pleasure that things are not as bad as being made out.

  • Gurgeh #25 4 years ago

    Hmm when did Singstar get confirmed for December? Last week it was still in the "no exact date has been set, but assuming all goes well" pile.

    *edit* looks like it still is on the Threespeach Sony site - Decemeber (date TBC) so not definite
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 16:03

  • rhinoxious #26 4 years ago

    It's all about Haze and Uncharted coming through for Sony, everything else is either cross-platform or simply not worth buying £300 hardware for.

  • Triggerhappytel #27 4 years ago

    It's not a bad list at all (although not as strong as the 360's), but I don't really think SingStar or UT3 are gonna hit the PS3 this side of Christmas.

  • MaxiSleep #28 4 years ago

    Apolgie

    Well I think Mass effect looks better then anything forthcoming on the PS3.

  • Scimarad #29 4 years ago

    "Although: You'll probably be rubbish at it."

    lol, so very true;-)

  • philw #30 4 years ago

    @Inspirius - yeah I'm a tad dubious on UT3 for this year, but Orange Box is out in two weeks.

  • Rirekon #31 4 years ago

    I'm surprised you found 12 games for the PS3, let alone 12 actually worth guying ;-)

  • mattigan #32 4 years ago

    Oooh the mighty Katsumoto we bow to your power over the ignore poster button, please keep us all informed of anyone else fool enough to invoke your wrath, as we're all frantically hitting f5 to see who's next on the list of DOOOOOOOOM!

    And while you're at it put me on the list too, cock!
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 16:09

  • Ryze #33 4 years ago

    At least 2 of these games might not even appear until next year, I'm afraid.

  • Katsumoto #34 4 years ago

    Very well, cunt!

  • Scimarad #35 4 years ago

    Honestly, why do these idiots bother? They say things like 'wow you managed to find 12 games?' like it's the very pinnacle of humour and nobody came up with the same moronic comment before.

    Still it makes 'em easier to ignore, I suppose.
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 16:12

  • Katsumoto #36 4 years ago

    Yes, its really quite sad, which is what I was indicating before. Seems I shouldn't have said anything though, because i'm now a cock! As are you! As is anybody who dares to ignore fanboy drivel.

  • crashVoodoo #37 4 years ago

    "Drugs can do all sorts of things, like give make you run faster than everyone else"


    /impressive

  • Pooley #38 4 years ago

    Uncharted looks very good, R&C might be a giggle too. Orange Box is a cert for me, and I'll probably get the PS3 version unless it's much, much worse than the 360 version.

    Seriously though, with all these games coming out before Christmas, especially with Super Mario Galaxy and probably some other titles I can't think of for the Wii, we're not going to have time to do much else than play games!

    Better get the pressie shopping out of the way first...

  • Scimarad #39 4 years ago

    Drugs most certainly weren't helping the composition of that sentence;-)

    Er...not that I'm implying...er...

    /runs

  • Ace_McCloud #40 4 years ago

    In a world where the PS3 is the only next-gen console, this list is okay - although you'd probably be hoping for better next year.... Except it's not the only console, there's a 360 out there, which is cheaper and has better games. So hush now.

  • asharkman #41 4 years ago

    Yea the whole console fan boy thing is a bit boring alright. But i think people are just showing their happiness in choosing the right console. At least for this christmas you can say the 360 has the best line up. Next year might be different, some developers are no longer exclusive like bizarre and bungie so next year might be different.
    MIGHT BE!

  • BM #42 4 years ago

    I wish Loco Roco would come out on 360, I think it looks brill

  • famous_roy #43 4 years ago

    The only stuff mentioning is on multi-platform anyway. Get me PS3 next year then...

  • jonsaan #44 4 years ago

    Warhawk is also available at retail, that's probably why it's in the list.

  • NewYork #45 4 years ago

    "The big old secret underpinning Assassin's Creed is that Altair, hay bounding assassin, is actually a 40-something American scientist, trapped in the past, leaping from life to life, putting things right that once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home."


    Mmmm... Spoilers, cheers!

  • Grogmonkey #46 4 years ago

    @NewYork

    At least they didn't let slip that Altair's only friend is Al, a hologram that only he can see and hear.

    Oops, sorry...

  • Apologie #47 4 years ago

    i think that these year both consoles have good games to offer, Christmas will be good to both sides of the barricade... (still i prefer the Ps3 Exclusives in 2007) by the way, the only REAL exclusive X360 have is Halo 3 and Mass Effect, Bioshok and Gears of War are available for PC, and anyone with a decent computer can play them "...

    .... FANBOYISM aside... we all know Ps3 will be dominant next year.
    Edited by 2 at 02/11/07 @ 16:51

  • Setaro #48 4 years ago

    I thought it was common knowledge that the last level of Assassin's Creed is set in a bar while you have a conversation with God!

    Damn that's another spoiler, can't believe you ruined the bit about Al, Grogmonkey!

  • thepiedpiper #49 4 years ago

    just about 10 games...at a push

  • mattigan #50 4 years ago

    "Yes, its really quite sad, which is what I was indicating before. Seems I shouldn't have said anything though, because i'm now a cock! As are you! As is anybody who dares to ignore fanboy drivel. "

    I've got my fingers in my ears whistling a tune!!! I don't need no stinking button to ignore muppets!

  • mattigan #51 4 years ago

    But teh cell

  • quantumsheep #52 4 years ago

    "The big old secret underpinning Assassin's Creed is that Altair, hay bounding assassin, is actually a 40-something American scientist, trapped in the past, leaping from life to life, putting things right that once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap will be the leap home"

    I love you, eurogamer staff!

  • Katsumoto #53 4 years ago

    I've got my fingers in my ears whistling a tune!!! I don't need no stinking button to ignore muppets!

    ! Well, I guess that's fair enough. Tbh the only point I really wanted to make was I only have 5 people ignored and 3 of their names start with nicky. :p

  • symbiote #54 4 years ago

    My goodness - doesn't the shot of the PS3 look sexy in comparison to the 360 one. Shame on you MS: shoddy design, shoddy construction.

  • Garulon #55 4 years ago

    @Apologie:

    ".... FANBOYISM aside... we all know Ps3 will be dominant next year."

    That's awesome. Never stop posting Apolgie! You're the most entertaining product on Sony's platform!

  • Garulon #56 4 years ago

    By FAR!

  • kangarootoo #57 4 years ago

    "despite what James with his rival console says in the comments section while picking his nose and flicking it at his equally spotty friend"

    Hehehe. Proper lol.

  • Garulon #58 4 years ago

    "My goodness - doesn't the shot of the PS3 look sexy in comparison to the 360 one."

    No, it looks like a bulbous smurf coffin. It looks even less sexy with a GH III dongle dangling off the USB port like some kind of gothic tampon.

  • symbiote #59 4 years ago

    "Any particular reason you've included PSN games when you didn't include XBLA games?"

    Indeed. PSN games are often new, original and have nice graphics. Live Arcacde, well, that's another story.

  • symbiote #60 4 years ago

    "gothic tampon"

    Garulon meet new tag, new tag, meet Garulon.

  • symbiote #61 4 years ago

    "(Im kinda drunk right now as I've had a few pints after work, so I accept no responsibility for what I said just then!) "

    OK, I'll accept it on your behalf.

    I feel ashamed now.
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 17:10

  • Garulon #62 4 years ago

    "Indeed. PSN games are often new, original and have nice graphics. Live Arcacde, well, that's another story."

    Interesting use of the word "often" there. You mean"often" like "one or two new titles every week like XBLA like Exit and Puzzle Quest and Mutant Storm Empire that consitently score 8/10?" Or do you mean "when I switched my PS3 on to watch Casino Royale again Everyday Shooter was available. Oh, and a Firmware update" often?

  • inomine #63 4 years ago

    Well done, thanks for spoiling Assassin's Creed.

  • kangarootoo #64 4 years ago

    @wazzer

    "Im kinda drunk right now as I've had a few pints after work"

    I sincerely hope you don't live in the UK, 'cos its not even half five and you are home from the pub already? Tell me its midnight where you are.

  • symbiote #65 4 years ago

    @Garulon

    Actually no, I meant more like: give me GTHD, flOw, LocoRoco, Tekken 5, Warhawk and Wipeout over Pacman, Pacman 2 and Mrs. Pacman any day of the week.
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 17:16

  • Garulon #66 4 years ago

    "Well done, thanks for spoiling Assassin's Creed. "

    I thought that bird out of Spider-Man did that about two years ago, running her mouth off about ************** and ********?

  • Bertie Verified Senior Staff Writer, Eurogamer.net #67 4 years ago

    It is not an Assassin's Creed spoiler. It is from Quantum Leap.

  • Cheapshot #68 4 years ago

    Nice list, I'll probably pick up a PS3 when MGS4 comes out.

    This word "fanboy", seriously must die. It makes me ill everytime I hear it.

  • Garulon #69 4 years ago

    "and Wipeout over Pacman, Pacman 2 and Mrs. Pacman any day of the week."

    Pfft you missed out Pacman CE, as well as ignoring the obvious "oh look another twinstick shooter on XBLA how original" I practically fed you. You'll never get to Apologie's uber-fanboism at this rate. Tsk.

  • Monkey_Puncher #70 4 years ago

    Yes Symbiote, the only games on XBLA are Pacman....

    *yawns*

  • symbiote #71 4 years ago

    "You'll never get to Apologie's uber-fanboism at this rate"

    Well no, I'd imagine posession of a 360, Wii, PC, PS3 and a degree of objectivity might just get in the way of that. Perhaps you could oblige on my behalf?

  • drumbaby #72 4 years ago

    R&C
    COD4
    UDF
    and the PS3 camera for me.

  • mossychops001 #73 4 years ago

    Yes, Will get
    R&C
    COD4
    Uncharted Drakes Fortune
    SingStar
    Lair
    Haze
    Orange Box PS3
    Time Crisis 4


    May also get:
    Kane & Lynch ( If it get more than a 8/10)
    Assassin's Creed (If it gets more than a 8/10)

  • inomine #74 4 years ago

    Oh, it isn't?

    Damn you for spoiling Quantum Leap!

  • zuljin #75 4 years ago

    @wazzer
    These are twelve games you should look into if you have a PS3. Not twelve games you should look into if you have a 360 and are thinking of a PS3.

    For gods sake, why is it so many people turn around and say "but this is multiplatform - hence doesn't count". That list has a lot of good games in, and so does the 360 version of this page.

    Just because a game is out on more than one system doesn't make it any less fun to play.

  • Monkey_Puncher #76 4 years ago

    "Well no, I'd imagine posession of a 360, Wii, PC, PS3 and a degree of objectivity might just get in the way of that. Perhaps you could oblige on my behalf?"

    So objectivity is naming 3 of the same type of games out of near 100 on XBLA?

    I love it when people use the old "I own all the consoles so I'm not a fanboy" style lines....

  • symbiote #77 4 years ago

    "objectivity is naming 3 of the same type of games out of near 100 on XBLA? "

    No, objectivity is having the distinct feeling that XBLA persists in shovelling me 30yr old shite and then the gaul to offer me several variations of flavour of that shite. What? I'm supposed to like EVERYTHING about EVERY machine I own?

  • miiiguel #78 4 years ago

    fanboyism makes ppl do ridicule stuff indeed, like a m8 (goo chap, though) who loved Exit (and I mean, really really loved the game) then it came out to XBLA now he thinks it's a bad game ans shit...
    Sounds like the guy saying "I prefer anything PSN over XBLA, I don't care which games, I just do! - Castelvania included, I just hate, hate, hate!"

    "And Sonic, and Speedball, and Carcassone, and Puzzle Quest; and JetPac; and Uno; and Feeding Frenzy; and Mirtal Kombat; and Robot Blitz; and Paperboy; and Frogger; TMNT Arcade; and Worms (this the most, because I would love it if it wasn't XBLA, why! oh why!!!??), I hate them all!"
    Edited by 2 at 02/11/07 @ 17:44

  • symbiote #79 4 years ago

    "I prefer anything PSN over XBLA, I don't care which games, I just do!"

    Except I didn't say that dear boy, did I? All it began with was a reply to someone asking why PSN games had made this list wheras XBLA games hadn't made the 360 list. I merely suggested that it might be because things like Warhawk and GTHD are worthier than old tripe like Pacman or Robotron.

    Sony and MS MUST have strategies and visions for their downloadable games, just as Nintendo have. I personaly just happen to prefer Sonys' vision in this respect.

  • reddevil93 #80 4 years ago

    Exit and Puzzle Quest came out on PSP first iirc.

  • miiiguel #81 4 years ago

    symbiote: I'd say it's because PS3 still lacks the big titles, which 360 isn't short of.
    And why you keep mentioning it like XBLA is but Pacman, care to see the whole list? (sorry for the looooong post):
    3D Ultra™ Minigolf
    Aegis Wing
    Alien Hominid HD
    Assault Heroes
    Astropop
    Band of Bugs
    Bankshot Billiards 2
    Battlestar Galactica
    Bejeweled 2
    Big Bumpin
    Bomberman Live
    Boom Boom Rocket
    Carcassonne
    Castlevania: SOTN
    Catan
    Centipede & Millipede
    Cloning Clyde
    Contra
    Crystal Quest
    Cyberball 2072
    Defender
    Dig Dug
    Doom
    Double Dragon
    Ecco the Dolphin
    Eets: Chowdown
    Every Extend Extra Extreme
    Exit
    Fatal Fury Special
    Feeding Frenzy
    Frogger
    Galaga
    Gauntlet
    Geometry Wars Evolved
    GEON
    Golden Axe
    Gyruss
    Hardwood Backgammon
    Hardwood Hearts
    Hardwood Spades
    Heavy Weapon
    Hexic 2
    Hexic HD
    Jetpac Refuelled
    Jewel Quest
    Joust
    LUMINES LIVE!
    Luxor 2
    Mad Tracks
    Marathon: Durandal
    Marble Blast Ultra
    Missile Command
    MS. Pac-Man
    Mutant Storm Empire
    Mutant Storm Reloaded
    NEW RALLY-X
    Novadrome
    Outpost Kaloki X
    Pac-Man
    Pac-Man C.E.
    Paperboy
    Pinball FX
    Pocketbike Racer
    Prince of Persia
    Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
    RoboBlitz
    Robotron: 2084
    Root Beer Tapper
    Rush'n Attack
    Scramble
    Screwjumper!
    Sensible World of Soccer
    Small Arms
    Smash TV
    Sneak King
    Soltrio Solitaire
    Sonic The Hedgehog
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2
    Space Giraffe
    Speedball 2
    Spyglass Board Games
    Street Fighter II Hyper Fighting
    Street Trace: NYC
    Streets of Rage 2
    Super Contra
    Super Puzzle Fighter 2 HD Remix
    Switchball
    Tetris Splash
    Texas Hold'em
    Time Pilot
    TMNT 1989 Arcade
    TotemBall
    Track & Field
    Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3
    Undertow
    Uno
    War World
    Wik: Fable of Souls
    Wing Commander Arena
    Word Puzzle
    Worms
    XEVIOUS
    Yaris
    Yie Ar Kung-Fu
    Zuma
    Edited by 3 at 02/11/07 @ 17:58

  • Monkey_Puncher #82 4 years ago

    Pacman and Robotron are the dregs of XBLA. It would be like me saying "Xbox 360 is much better, call me crazy but I'd much prefer to play Bioshock and Gears of War over Lair and Barbie goes Horse Riding"

    For every retro game on XBLA there's a Geometry Wars or a Puzzle Quest.

  • TONYgr #83 4 years ago

    well from this day i am a ps-3 owner!along with a 360 and a wii!personaly i will get only drake from this line up.all the multiplatform games i will get them on the 360.and for the wii metroid and mario for me.

  • TRUTH #84 4 years ago

    Haze & Unreal III will be coming to 360.

  • miiiguel #85 4 years ago

    if you fancy waiting a year or so, a minor downgrade on the quality, usualy no online..., no rumble.

    And I place my 360 near the rest of the hi-fi components, around 5 meters away from my couch and I can't hear that "very loud" thing you talk about.

  • patchbox360 #86 4 years ago

    bioshock, gears of war, Halo3

  • Apologie #87 4 years ago

    HAZE is exclusive to the PS3... and Bioshok as well as Gears of war are out for Pc so, not exactly exclusive.
    Edited by 2 at 02/11/07 @ 19:13

  • miiiguel #88 4 years ago

    exclusive = good; inclusive = bad

  • Arwin #89 4 years ago

    Too many fps games for my taste! Still, it's obvious that the PS3 isn't exactly lacking in them. And things look bright for the future, with Carmack now making games (Rage) that only fit on 2 DVDs or more ... lol.

    I'll very likely get some of these choices from both the PS3's and 360s list (though faaaaaar more from the PS3's list, which isn't surprising, since I really did just get a 360 because a colleague won one somewhere and he didn't want it :p )

    I'm contemplating Bioshock, and will probably get the PS3 version of CoD4, if the reviews convince me and the single player is fun enough (because I need me some single player ...)

    For me, Tekken Online is the thing I'm looking out for ... VF5 is good, but it lacks charm and it just doesn't make sense. The fluidity of being able to move around is awesome, but the one-button-per-limb setup for Tekken keeps winning me over, and the much greater characters and animations cinch the deal. Still, VF5 online should offer more depth in the end, probably. But how likely is it that I'll get into that level of competition, I wonder? :)

    I also think I'll get my first GH3, not yet sure which version. 360 seems to have the friend's list advantage, but all my friends have PS3s, and most likely it will be played with friends in the living room rather than online, and my PS3 rules the living room all by itself (360 being banned to study for loudness and being a lesser movie player ... oh the irony ;) ). Shame though that GH3 still hasn't caught up with the depth of, say, the DDR games I have for my PS2.

    Singstar is a must buy for me. Can't effing wait! And I wonder if I"ll ever have the nerve to post a song online, lol.

    Which means I'll also get the Eye, though no idea yet if I'll get it with Eye of Judgment or just on its own.

    Unreal I don't know, not really my thing, but then being able to use the keyboard and mouse, that just really, really interests me and I might get it out of sheer principle. If it doesn't make it this year, that'd solve that problem, but it would be a shame anyway. On the other hand, apparently Burnout 5 will have a demo online in december, which is awesome.

    Also will have to try to get my hands on the Japanese GT5 Prologue BluRay disc ...

    UNCHARTED is a no-brainer again! After some initial skepticism about being too much Tomb Raider and Prince of Persia, the charm of the story, the beauty of the environments, and the innovations in animation just really won me over.

    Ratchett & Clank, again, a no-brainer. Good game for giving to visiting kids, it'll also be my first R&C game. I couldn't get through it on PS2 basically because it was too much shooting, but now it just looks so good I don't care what it is (and it seems varied enough!)

    LocoRoco by the way is great, but the PSP game is perfection. Still hope for the second coming of that one on PS3 or PSP, doesn't matter. In general, although 360 has a very healthy lineup of Arcade games, I really prefer the PSN releases. Super Rub-a-Dub, no matter how people have berated that game, all by itself makes it more interesting to me than all the (substantial number of!) Arcade games combined. Some of the best titles on 360 PSN are actually PSP ports, how ironic is that? (Game I personally played most on Live Arcade is Lumines Live ... ). And PSN is looking to get even more original games out there in the future, and hopefully will make more use of its sixaxis features - Velocity Bowling is very very interesting in that respect. What Sony needs now is more 3rd party support for it, maybe some Wii ports even (sixaxis is perfect for Mercury meltdown and similar games, and should look great on PS3)

    All in all, I think I'll go broke this Christmas, and will have games to last until the next (probably longer with a kid coming up!)
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 19:33

  • symbiote #90 4 years ago

    "For every retro game on XBLA there's a Geometry Wars or a Puzzle Quest. "

    Indeed, but there's nothing to equal the scale of GTHD, Warhawk or Tekken 5, is all I was trying to say. XBLA has 8bit retro written all over it dude - face facts.

  • miiiguel #91 4 years ago

    And then there's thing always present, PS3 seems to be the machine of the future, the distant future - every time we hear about what's good about PS3? The future!.

    What about now ?

    And then you have the "brand" thing like a conteporanean brain tatoo, which can be seen through arwin's post. There's always a way to bend it like to "our" side. Either it's friends, or loudness, or the colour, or the shape..., heck! even when it's the exact same game, there's always this je ne sais quois...
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 19:51

  • AZA #92 4 years ago

    Yea the PS3 IS indeed struggling but IIRC so was the 360 in its first Christmas having well NO decent games, seems people forget their history easily eh?

  • miiiguel #93 4 years ago

    "This thing pretty much turns your PS3 into a complete desktop computer, with Office applications, Email, Browsers (Netscape/FireFox, Opera, Links2, whatever), movie players, encoders, decoders (imagine how well they can run if supporting Cell!), and tonnes more."

    arwin, two years ago...

    And, I'm not judging, just saying: don't try to pretend the "brand thing" has no influence where some ppl think it's the right place to waste their time and money.
    Edited by 3 at 02/11/07 @ 20:11

  • captainrentboy #94 4 years ago

    Did anyone actually read Arwin's gigantic post of PS3 love? Bit much really, know when to calm it down slightly, I have a short attenti.......Ohhh look a cat licking itself!!!

  • TRUTH #95 4 years ago

    Actually Haze is timed exclusive for PS3, will come to 360 later in 2008. Here's something for PS3.



    [link url=http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/ game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007101111572 1909057&releaseId=20060321132945404017
    ]http://ww w.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/gam...[/link]

    http://ww w.destructoid.com/ridge-racer-6...

  • AZA #96 4 years ago

    @TRUTH

    Wow Gabe Newell gassing instead of getting things done, suprise suprise prolly explain why his games are always delayed by stupid amounts
    Edited by 1 at 02/11/07 @ 20:30

  • GamesConnoisseur #97 4 years ago

    I personally do think X360 have an edge over PS3 this Christmas, and can easily back this up with stats of Metacritic averaged scores of total 12 games but why bother? Its childish even though I mentioned it in passing!

    I also do own both consoles but it does seem apparent that certain numbers of multi platform owners here favouring one above other for different reasons. Different strokes for different folks!

    X360 and PS3 will have great Christmas run up with the games on both lists, the bickering reminds me of old Speccy vs Commodore plus Amstrad/BBC in the shadows. This time Nintendo looms over both X360 and PS3 but enough substance to challenge the two good lists? Roll on EG choice of 12 for Wii.

  • mattigan #98 4 years ago

    ok ok, best friends forever???

  • Scimarad #99 4 years ago

    The 360 has definitely got the edge over the PS3 this year but that isn't the same as saying the PS3 hasn't got anything going for it. I'm just glad I'm in a position to play games on both machines...and complain bitterly that I can't play Super Mario Galaxy:-(

  • admir #100 4 years ago

    sony has been less then 1 year on the market with the ps3 and i think they did bring some good games warhawk, motorstorm, HS, etc. remember how long it took MS to bring some good games.

    what i am getting sick and tired off are the fucking sequels. to date i think okami, Ico and shadow of colossus are the best games i played

  • Xerx3s #101 4 years ago

    Still it makes 'em easier to ignore, I suppose.

    Makes who easier to ignore? ¬_¬

  • Xerx3s #102 4 years ago

    Learn to be good winners, it's not like you have much to be jealous of, at least not at this point.

    Fortunately I have most of the idiots on ignore but from what I can see from the replies it's not so much the winners but sour losers that spark this nonsense (the like of apologie or whatever his nick is).

  • bonker #103 4 years ago

    "Pacman and ROBOTRON are the dregs of XBLA"

    Bastardo!

  • Xerx3s #104 4 years ago

    Yea the PS3 IS indeed struggling but IIRC so was the 360 in its first Christmas having well NO decent games, seems people forget their history easily eh?

    Surely, don't mean it's first Christmas? It was only out for a couple of days! Still had some smashing titles though. By the time it reached a year in Christmas, it had some really good hits (VP, GoW, RB6 & more for Christmas alone?)

    That aside, it doesn't matter who got what when in their relative lifespan. What matters is: Who has got what now and what's planned for the near future. I seriously don't get the 'relatively' or 'future' arguments.

  • bonker #105 4 years ago

    "That's the aspect of the Playstation i've always liked, in that artistic titles (Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Loco Roco, Odins Sphere, Little Big Planet, Everyday Shooter, etc) do come out for the system.

    Yes the 360 has some excellent titles, but most are all FPS's, driving and third perspective titles like Gears of War and if you don't like whose types of games..then you're totally screwed. "

    +1

    Just going by static screenshots alone, i prefer the look of many more PS3 games than I do 360 games ...

  • Shonuff #106 4 years ago

    Its nice to see the PS3 gamers finally getting something to look forward to.

  • TRUTH #107 4 years ago

    Zero_Cool

    PS3 fans must be really desperate to consider Heavenly Sword a great game!...MGS 4 has been hinted more then several times that it may come to 360. OH! Vina Patna, Beautiful Katamari, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, Football Manager, Oblivion, Dead Rising, Kameo, Bioshock (More then just a fps), Dead Or Alive, Guitar Heroes, VF5 (better then PS3 version), Skate (running better on 360), Command & Conquer, Burnout 5, Enternal Sona, Fight Night...the list goes on, & on. There's so many styles of games for 360 then just fps & driving (though 360 has the best of these). Though some are on PS3 - They play better, look better, and play better online and extra features on 360. Also alot cheaper...The fact is Japanese developers are converting PS3 games to 360 and developing exclusives - the market has changed due to cost of development for next gen console esp PS3 and poor sale performance, also with 360 strong games sale compared to Wii & PS3. Gears Of War, Halo 3, Dead Or Alive 4, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Crackdown, Oblivion, Fight Night, Blue Dragon, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Burnout..etc, all selling between 150,000+ to 1 million+. Also many if not all multiformat games eclipsing PS3 sales if compared.

    To compete for 2008 - Fable 2, Cry-On, Lost Oddysee, Alan Wake, Enternal Darkness 2, Halo Wars, Splinter Cell Convection, Banjoo & Kaizooe, Ninja Gaiden 2, Too Human; not a single fps or racer listed. All games have been getting positive previews, and exclusives to 360.

    AZA:
    [link url=http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/ game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007101111572 1909057&releaseId=20060321132945404017
    ]http://ww w.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/gam...[/link]

    They probably develop some of the best PC and now console games (Half Life 1/2, Portal) - right! I would rather think he has the knowledge to make these comments compared to you.... Also a reminder that the developers of GOW also say the PS3 can't run GOW game if it was to be ever converted to PS3 to the same standard as the 360, due to less available ram-memory, and inferior texture/lighting handling (evidence on most PS3 vs 360 games) and design of GPU problems.

    Eye Of Judgement is crap by the way - check reviews
    Edited by 6 at 02/11/07 @ 23:51

  • muftak #108 4 years ago

    @truth

    you don't speak one word of it do you

    haze is a PS3 exclusive has been now for 3 months was announced at ubi days they stopped all dev of it on the 360.
    have you played heavenly sword what a game it was the intense story yes it was a bit short but the story well made up for it talking shit about HS means that you never played it.

    by the way UT3 has a far more intensive engine than GoW and that is being made lead design on the PS3 ,back in the day they said GoW couldn't be done on the ps3 but it can now that the devs understand the Cell.

    take you 360 fanboi comments else where

    all the machines have pros and cons

  • GamesConnoisseur #109 4 years ago

    [link url=http://uk.gamesp ot.com/news/6177964.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&ta g=latestnews;title;1
    ]http://uk .gamespot.com/news/6177964.html...[/link]

    As a source to support comments that Haze is only confirmed for PS3 and no other version (note ubisfot not saying never, but nearly as good as)

    X360 have plently of FPS as PS3 owners have decries, I am only happy to be able to look forward this to add to my PS3 library to better balance my hefty X360 one.

  • AZA #110 4 years ago

    @ Truth

    TLDR

    :p

  • Arwin #111 4 years ago

    @miiguel: it's true though isn't it? You can do it these days, quite easily. Of course, it would have been nicer if the RSX were available, as I think that's holding the PS3 back from becoming a really good machine for running Linux. Which is a shame (there are some guys at ps2dev.org who seem to have found a way to use the RSX from Linux though, amazingly.) And at the very least there are a lot of students and researchers out there who are using a PS3 with Linux to develop for Cell, as part of their research. So they did do a good thing in that respect - but they really, really should unlock the RSX. It seems to be possible in a safe way.

    @bcalter: maybe just old? (33) :D My younger colleagues all game on PC, and my older colleagues, if they game at all, have a PS3 (that's actually 5 out of 25 in my company). No 360s ...

  • imperial_seal #112 4 years ago

    By the way, people forget PS3 is region free, so I can play any PS3 game from any region, oh look, I can play Winning Eleven 2008 (The much superior version of PES2008) in Nov, and Dynasty Warriors 6 too. That's jus two titles that is out in Japan is Nov, that I can easily purchase online for cheaper price than the UK release too ! Is that possible on 360 ? No ? oh well...

  • SeesThroughAll #113 4 years ago

    TRUTH, everybody's favorite brainless troll! :)

    Eye Of Judgement is crap by the way - check reviews

    Gamerankings.com says:

    Play Magazine 9.5 out of 10 (95.0%)
    PS3 Advanced 8.7 out of 10 (87.0%)
    Gaming Age B+ (85.0%)
    Gametrailers 8.3 out of 10 (83.0%)
    GameZone 8.3 out of 10 (83.0%)
    Electronic Gaming Monthly 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
    Game Informer 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
    TotalVideoGames 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
    1UP 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
    GamingTrend 80 out of 100 (80.0%)
    IGN 8 out of 10 (80.0%)
    PSM3 Magazine UK 79 out of 100 (79.0%)
    Lawrence 7.8 out of 10 (78.0%)
    GameSpot 7.5 out of 10 (75.0%)
    Play UK 65 out of 100 (65.0%)
    Edge Magazine UK 4 out of 10 (40.0%)

    Which averages close to 80%. Doesn't really sound like shit, if you ask me.

    Let me guess, only Edge counts, right? ;)

    PS: Quit that Ridge Racer 6/7 comparison shit, it's tiresome and unlike what you would like to believe, IT SAYS NOTHING ABOUT EITHER HARDWARE. You don't see PS3 fanboys posting links to that gametrailers video showing horrid popups on the 360 version of Oblivion, do you?

    PPS: And please, will you so kindly just fuck off...
    Edited by 1 at 03/11/07 @ 04:30

  • reddevil93 #114 4 years ago

    /hits TRUTH over the head with a mallet

  • mattigan #115 4 years ago

    imperial_seal, well considering that region locking games for 360 is left up to the developer and not imposed by Microsoft, and that a lot of developers don't bother (Ubisoft is one that immediately springs to mind), then er yes it is possible, in fact a lot of my games are imported, and as the 360 is primarily a western console you tend to find that the asian releases are also in english too, and so basically identical to the UK release.

    But then again you don't really need to import games for the 360 as there are enough good ones out over here anyway ;)

  • DjFlex52 #116 4 years ago

    Now I see how I look when I either defend the 360 or the PS3 on different occasions (never have defended the Wii, sorry)...absurd is the word.

    Whenever I read one of the PS3/360 battle threads, I'm not sure if i'm entertained or bored, agitated or amused, surprised or feeling deja vu...

    ....or all of the above!

    Though my guilty pleasure would be a miiiguel/Garulon vs Apologie/symbiote tagteam "who's got the best console" match with the TRUTH and Arwin as alternates :p

    /just came back from a party and i'm wasted

  • miiiguel #117 4 years ago

    Djeeezuz...! Importing games for the 360??? Are you crazy? Must I sell my place or something?

    Arwin: shit, I'm older. Thanks..., now I'm depressed.
    Anyways, maybe that's the problem, I am getting old, I love sleeping more and more, I and really hate coming here because this stupid SAP stoped working, therefor I do not waste my money for the love of a product to (may)be.
    About Linux... m8... I can put Linux on my Zune, If I try hard I think I can find a distro to run on my 50 Eur watch.

    DJ: I don't think I'm up to the fight, I mean... at the first sight that I'mm beeing screwed I "jump out" faster (oh much faster) than I "jumped in", make no mistake. Ink don't stick on old brains, me thinks.
    Edited by 5 at 03/11/07 @ 10:09

  • Fayt #118 4 years ago

    For those who just own a PS3, it's a more than a solid line up. However if you own a 360 too, it's not quite so good, though there is at least still games like Uncharted to look forward to for the remainder of the year.

  • DjFlex52 #119 4 years ago

    DJ: I don't think I'm up to the fight, I mean... at the first sight that I'mm beeing screwed I "jump out" faster (oh much faster) than I "jumped in", make no mistake. Ink don't stick on old brains, me thinks.

    @miiiguel

    That's ok...when you jump out, TRUTH jumps in and confuses them with his technical mumbo jumbo until your wits return. Your wits got you to the finals anyway...lol

  • Atropos #120 4 years ago

    Umm. Stop writing articles whilst under the influence. Just saying.

  • mkreku #121 4 years ago

    Not a single RPG on that list, huh? Maybe next Xmas, PS3, IF you still have a model with PS2 BC by then..

  • Bluetooth #122 4 years ago

    Exclusives are rather underwhelming.

  • Apologie #123 4 years ago

    wait until you guy's see Killzone2, Metal Gear4, Little Big Planet and GT5 on that list... not to mention Home, God of War3 and all the other BIG surprises that will show up in time. the truth is that the Playstation brand will continue to be dominant in the present generation...
    by the way i don't have interest anymore on the X360 because all the good Games, Bioshok, Gears etc..., can be played on my pc with better performance and added content. the only reason i continue to own the system is because of Forza2... and even that will change with the arrival of the new GranTursimo "by far the best Racing Simulator".
    I never felt influenced by the conspiracy theory formed against Sony... and continue to think they are the best at what they do.

  • Arwin #124 4 years ago

    @DJFlex: "Though my guilty pleasure would be a miiiguel/Garulon vs Apologie/symbiote tagteam "who's got the best console" match with the TRUTH and Arwin as alternates :p"

    I can't lose, because I have both the 360 and the PS3. I just like the PS3 better, guess I'm just weird that way! ;)

  • Machetazo #125 4 years ago

    brooza asked: "Any particular reason you've included PSN games when you didn't include XBLA games?"

    No-one has the slightest idea when games will be released to Live Arcade, or really which titles (of note) are coming, that doesn't work in the right level of Microsoft. With PSN at least there's some forward communication. It should also be remembered that PSN titles aren't locked in to cramped size restrictions, so full games can be delivered through the service, and have been to date.

    I agree with disc's comment on the first page. I feel that Folklore is being generally under-rated/overlooked.
    Edited by 1 at 03/11/07 @ 16:52

  • silke #126 4 years ago

    "That's the aspect of the Playstation i've always liked, in that artistic titles (Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Loco Roco, Odins Sphere, Little Big Planet, Everyday Shooter, etc) do come out for the system.

    Yes the 360 has some excellent titles, but most are all FPS's, driving and third perspective titles like Gears of War and if you don't like whose types of games..then you're totally screwed.

    Where are the artistic titles like the ones mentioned above on 360?"

    That's exactly why I just bought one myself. Sony's systems has always had a penchant for and a higher occurrence of games with a more pure artistic flavour and focus, especially regarding their in-house productions.
    A fact that I've always appreciated, greatly.

    So, I'm very satisfied with my PS3, and it looks nice beside the concave whiteness of the 360. Now, there's only one apparent problem; to try to cope with the extreme noise level of the 360 in comparison to my almost whispery quiet 40 gig PS3.

    Ahh, the problems we face in western world....

  • TRUTH #127 4 years ago

    SeesThroughAll...Sorry if I make you cry & hurt your fragile feelings which makes you use naughty language because you so frustrated and probably a vile person in real life!

    I have PS3 & 360 (amongst other older gen consoles) ...HS is not a AAA title: Short, fairly easy, can use same combo most of the time. EOJ is not AAA title: It's only good online and if you like that chess/strg sort stuff in the 1st place, not for most. Both games are not system sellers. Also God Of War is way cheaper and so much better then HS as with Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden (Black), Rygay etc.

    Okay Haze is confirmed for PS3 only, but in the interview it has mentioned only for now!...Probability it will it end up on PC/360. Just like VF5, Unreal III were not coming to 360. Haze doesn't really bother me though, doesn't look a must have title at present.

    Oblivion PS3 had an extra 9+ months development time. Remember Oblivion was originally developed on a PC dev kit, then customed (while being worked on) for the 360...The 360 dev kit was not fully ready when this game went into development for 360, so ended up using PC kits. The PS3 dev kits were ready and had extra 9 months of dev time. Do not forget! it was Sony's own fault that enough blueray parts could not be manufactured in time for PS3 original release date - which was originally the same time asthe 360. The PS3 dev kits were already shipped to game developers at the same time as 360's dev kits. So Sony has had the same or more time to improve development. So far it hasn't. VF5, Sega Rally are 2 more games running better on 360.

    Oh! Just like 99% of all other cross games here's what PS3 games should be doing after a 9+/ year extra of development time:

    http://ww w.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/gam...
    Edited by 4 at 03/11/07 @ 21:56

  • patchbox360 #128 4 years ago



    if u haven't played bioshock ur not a real gamer

  • Smugglarn #129 4 years ago

    Frankenstein was the creator - not the monster. It´s a
    common misconception, held by all truly stupid people.

  • Kryon #130 4 years ago

    "I never felt influenced by the conspiracy theory formed against Sony... and continue to think they are the best at what they do."

    ROFL, no honestly, comedy gold! I actually pissed a bit in my pants XD

  • SeesThroughAll #131 4 years ago

    TRUTH, you really don't get it, do you?

    OK, believe whatever makes your life appear less meaningless...

  • imperial_seal #132 4 years ago

    Whichever machine that will have Shenmue 3 will be the winner, simple as, everything else can just bugger off, apart from GTA4 of course !
    Edited by 1 at 03/11/07 @ 19:41

  • Apologie #133 4 years ago

    @evilfoxhound

    LOL....

  • tonynibbles #134 4 years ago

    @TRUTH

    Stop talking utter shit. Go and troll somewhere else on a thread where people give a shit about your insignificant opinions.

  • Monkey_Puncher #135 4 years ago

    Fantastic 4 Rise of the Silver Surfer?

    hahahaha

  • zendragon #136 4 years ago

    Truly worth buying a playtoy3 for. NOT!

  • captainrentboy #137 4 years ago

    Fantastic Four 4- ROTSS, that unbelievably average super hero flick looks impressive on Blu-Ray huh? Well fuck me, I'm off out to buy a PS3 right now.

  • imperial_seal #138 4 years ago

    I think you guys forgot Jessica Alba's boobs does look very high quality in the blue-ray version of the film, I think that's what sold Xiphos

  • Kryon #139 4 years ago

    I don't think it's got anything to do with Jessica Alba, the average PS3 owner like Apologie is more into men and Emo boys.

  • Xerx3s #140 4 years ago

    TRUTH: Please put a sock in it will you? Or at least stop posting blatant lies and wishful thinking.

    EDIT: Same goes for muftak btw.

    "by the way UT3 has a far more intensive engine than GoW and that is being made lead design on the PS3 ,back in the day they said GoW couldn't be done on the ps3 but it can now that the devs understand the Cell. "

    When did the UE3 become 'lead designed' on the ps3? Wishful thinking at best (or worst if you like). It is, always has and always will have the PC as leading platform. This is proven simply by the fact that epic are diehard pc fanboys and the fact that UE3 will ship on the pc shortly and godknows when on the ps3, delaying the 360 version as well because of a exclusivity contract.
    Edited by 1 at 04/11/07 @ 10:01

  • Xerx3s #141 4 years ago

    "By the way, people forget PS3 is region free, so I can play any PS3 game from any region, oh look, I can play Winning Eleven 2008 (The much superior version of PES2008) in Nov, and Dynasty Warriors 6 too. That's jus two titles that is out in Japan is Nov, that I can easily purchase online for cheaper price than the UK release too ! Is that possible on 360 ? No ? oh well..."

    Actually, yes it is. Get your facts right. i.e. all of the MSG published titles are region free.

  • SlackMaster #142 4 years ago

    Just in passing, you can pick up region free 360 games by the way. Just need to check out the list on Play-Asia.

    All consoles will have a good line up leading up to Xmas... for me it's just the games I'm looking forward to the most rather than which console they're coming out on.

    Mass Effect and Assassins Creed are the two games I'm psyched about the most.

    As for next year probably Super Smash Bros... I've kinda gone off the Next gen Super Mario and MGS games.
    Edited by 2 at 04/11/07 @ 10:27

  • imperial_seal #143 4 years ago

    right, so where are the Japanese titles for 360 ? Cos I can't find any...

    Don't get me wrong, I have both 360 and PS3, and sure 360 was very strong this year with lots of AAA titles, though too many FPS, which personally I don't particular enjoy. But being a fan of Japanese developed games, I think PS3 wins that hands down, nobody wants to develope for 360 in Japan, considering the very poor sales over there.

  • Xerx3s #144 4 years ago

    So when did this fanboy war turn into a HD format cum fest? :/

  • morriss #145 4 years ago

    imperial_seal: Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Infinite Undiscovery, Lost Odyssey.

    Not a great deal but there're some to be going on with.

  • Kenshin001 #146 4 years ago

    "Just in passing, you can pick up region free 360 games by the way. Just need to check out the list on Play-Asia."

    I don't think they are all region free though that's why you have to check the list. I was under the impression all PS3 games are region free.

  • TRUTH #147 4 years ago

    tonynibbles: YOU TWAT!...Don't read my opinions if you don't like them...I can write on PS3 threads because I do have a PS3 and think the Christmas line up is not so great, & it comes second best to multi format conversions, also all the hype by Sony has not been justified. Also some of my points might be responding to other people points!

    So I don't really care what you think, but I'm glad I get on your nervous you Idiot!
    Edited by 2 at 04/11/07 @ 15:50

  • symbiote #148 4 years ago

    Switched the PS3 on last night for the first time in a week or so after a glut of Halo and Half-Life and, yes, whilst the 360 has more games to offer at the moment, the PS3 is head-and-shoulders the better designed, built, functional and more stylish piece of kit. No regrets in purchasing it and great to see so much quality and variety on the immediate horizon.
    Edited by 1 at 04/11/07 @ 13:57

  • Kryon #149 4 years ago

    "Switched the PS3 on last night for the first time in a week or so"

    Sorry but this is reason enough for a gamer to have little interest in the system imo. I've already got a Wii gathering dust and don't want another waste of space in my front room, atleast the Wii is 'pretty' looking...

  • drumm23 #150 4 years ago

    funniest thing ever is somebody claiming fantastic picture quality ... ON AN LCD television. Erm, ok... as long as it's not an actual movie that moves....

  • captainrentboy #151 4 years ago

    PS3, stylish? Really? I've always thought it was rediculously large, ugly, and has too many sections jutting out all over the place, not to mention if you breathe on its, rather cheapy feeling, plastic cover too heavily it's instantly covered in 1000 noticeable scratch marks :/
    A PS3 might be a lot of things, but an attractive piece of kit it isn't.

  • SeesThroughAll #152 4 years ago

    Glad to have you back with your irrational All-things-Sony-hatred back, Xiphos :)

  • pjmaybe #153 4 years ago

    You guys did well to find 12 games on the PS3 that were worth playing.

    Peej

  • symbiote #154 4 years ago

    "funniest thing ever is somebody claiming fantastic picture quality ... ON AN LCD television. Erm, ok... as long as it's not an actual movie that moves.... "

    Where have you been the last few years? My LCD is 18 months old now but still has a response time of 5ms and a 180 viewing angle. You're not telling me you're THAT anal...

    In fact, what IS your idea of a fantastic picture? Plasma typically has lower resolutions and rectangular pixels, rear projection is dire other than sat head on and projectors are nice but hardly practical for day-to-day use. You've either got an SEDTV (and a very large bank balance) or out of date knowledge.
    Edited by 1 at 04/11/07 @ 18:40

  • SleepyMagpie #155 4 years ago

    Did well... Well, a couple of those aren't even certain to be released for Christmas yet, or?

    And for the games in question: Many of them can be played, possibly in a better state, on the 360. The PS3 vs. 360 comparisons run throughout the year have posted smoother, more saturated images for the 360 on the same games consecutively, and often better framerates as well.

    I also feel no attraction whatsoever to a knock-off male Lara Croft with no charisma, and Sing-Star - puhh-lease! LocoRoco Cocoreccho looks interesting, and I would like to check it out, but 1 game is not enough to warrant a purchase of a VERY EXPENSIVE machine with an uncertain future and backing. UT3 will get to us 360 owners in it's sweet time, it's not like I am severely wanting for a FPS anyway!

    ^^

    I would buy a PS3 if the games spoke to me, but they don't.

    I cannot deny an interest in INTERESTING games such as Bioshock and Mass Effect, and games with a degree of polish and utility like Halo 3 make it a sure thing as well.

    When (admittedly loud-mouthed) very tech-savvy developers such as Valve's Gabe Newell speak out against the PS3 - and you can be fairly sure it's his own, unbought opinion - it does raise a need for concern.

    [link url=http://www.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/ game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=2007101111572 1909057&releaseId=20060321132945404017
    ]http://ww w.gamesradar.com/gb/xbox360/gam...[/link]

    Adopters of Sony's latest platform may ignore all this at their wont, and head back iside The Church of Praystation - Yuletide will come anyhoo.

    Just some of us will be playing better games, and cheaper.

    OK - I'll give you that we'll be having a noisier time - but Christmas is noisy anyhow.

  • SeesThroughAll #156 4 years ago

    Digging up old news to try to prove that despite the quality games PS3 owners will be getting and enjoying, the PS3 sucks because "someone important said so" shows a lot of insecurity on your part.

    Just be glad EVERYBODY will be enjoying the season regardless of hardware of choice (yes, including the Wii), enjoy it yourself and grow up.

  • TriggerHippie #157 4 years ago

    360 is pretty quiet when the fucking thing wont switch on :(

  • SleepyMagpie #158 4 years ago

    SeesThroughAll - I didn't SEE that.

    I give up. You guys are right. The PS3 is sooo much better than the 360.

    Merry Christmas!

  • SeesThroughAll #159 4 years ago

    "I give up. You guys are right. The PS3 is sooo much better than the 360."

    You have just proven how childish you are.

    Good riddance.

  • Kryon #160 4 years ago

    Calling the PS3 crap isn't childish, just true. The console is about as enticing as an Atari Jaguar with a steaming monkey dropping on top of it, but hey, whatever floats your boats...

  • Sebo #161 4 years ago

    It is childish Kryon, because you are only doing it to get a reaction.

  • Kryon #162 4 years ago

    So if the truth is controversial/causes reaction or you simply don't like it then it's somehow 'childish'?

  • AZA #163 4 years ago

    @ Kryon

    I didn't know you were the oracle? You seem to know the "truth" about the PS3 regardless of the fact you don't own one?

    Anyway, I myself think that the PS3 may not edge out THIS Christmas, but its definitely improving slowly I don't understand why everyone has expected this thing be god like in its first year its very rare for ANY console be good in its first year.

    But that Christmas line up aint THAT bad, Drakes could well be a sleeper hit IMHO


    Edited by 2 at 04/11/07 @ 22:04

  • Diomedes #164 4 years ago

    When all is said and done the PS3 will be the console with a wider and more diverse software ;beat them all (Ninja Gaiden Sigma ,Heavenly Sword ,Conan ,God of War 3 ,Devil May Cry 4 ),,beat them up (Virtua Fighter 5 ,Tekken 5 ) ,party games (buzz ,singstar ) ,innovative things (Eye of Judgement ,Nob Nob Boy,Afrika ) ,plattformers (Ratchet and Clank ,Jak and Daxter ) ,racing games (Motorstorm ,Gran Turismo 5 ,Need for Speed ) ,FPS (Resistence ,Killzone 2 ,Unreal 3 ,Haze ) ,online games (Warhawk ,Socom Confrontation ) ,arcade (Wipeout HD ,Everyday Shooter ,Stardust HD ),RPG (Final Fantasy XIII ,XIII Versus ,White Knight ,Eternal Sonata,Disgaea 3 ,Oblivion ,Fallout 3) ,sports games (all the 2K ,Sony and EA franchises ) ,adventure (Uncharted ,Metal Gear Solid 4 ),survival horror (Resident Evil 5 ,Silent Hill 5 ,Alone in the Dark ) .......the rival consoles we will see .Right now the Wii has mostly crap games and the 360 has good sports ,racing and FPS games but little else .

  • AZA #165 4 years ago

    @ mem

    The 360 cant beat he Wii either, or do you blinker wearing Xbox lemmings ignore such facts?

  • AZA #166 4 years ago

    lol

    Anyways, I'll be interested see what is recommended for the Wii
    Edited by 1 at 04/11/07 @ 22:52

  • Xerx3s #167 4 years ago

    I've always thought it was ridiculously large, ugly...

    I've always found this quite interesting. The sony 'loyalists' never left an opportunity unused to point out how fricking huge the xbx was. It is interesting that you don't hear these people about the ps3.

    Calling the PS3 crap isn't childish, just true. The console is about as enticing as an Atari Jaguar with a steaming monkey dropping on top of it, but hey, whatever floats your boats...

    I resent that statement. I have a jaguar (2 in fact for systemlink, which was an awesome innovation) and it had some really great games.

    A lot of people in this thread seriously need to get laid.

    Aye you paying? \0/

    /suddenly realises that the other is standing behind him
    /death by bitchslap

    Diomedes: I'm not even going to bother with dick swinging but seriously, if you want to impress, you really should leave out ports, games over a year old/away (some of the titles you mentioned are not even officially announced) and titles that are multiplatform titles. Then compare them with lists of other machines.

    A short list with only titles such as rachet & c and uncharted is much more impressive than a list that needs to look big but turns out to have a lot of filler content.

    Seriously, since when did we start including multi platform in this williewaving? And when did EA titles become platform demonstrators?!

  • figaro7 #168 4 years ago

    I could start a wii list right now

    Mario Galaxy
    Metroid Prime 3
    Zak and Wiki
    Rayman 2
    Endless Ocean
    Nights Journey of Dreams
    Medal of Honor Heroes 2
    Res Evil Umbrella Chronicles
    Geometry Wars
    Wii Zapper + Zelda crossbow
    Ghost Squad
    Guitar Hero 3

  • JDub #169 4 years ago

    I have a ZX81 and I can tell you Mazogs and Ant Attack are the best game ev4rZZ!! I'm still waiting for my 16K expansion pack to be delivered, but the company won't answer the phone for some reason. ;)

    Let's fact it, the PS3 is a nice and stylish bit of kit, but until recently was expensive - It does also play films very nicely in HD. I use it a lot. The 360 has been out longer so has a better selection of games, but may peak sooner. Bioshock was excellent...

    You pays yer money and you takes yer pick. Each platform has different strengths and is at differing times in it's life-cycle, IMO. Fini.

    /grabs coat
    Edited by 1 at 04/11/07 @ 23:16

  • quantumsheep #170 4 years ago

    "I have a ZX81 and I can tell you Mazogs and Ant Attack are the best game ev4rZZ!! I'm still waiting for my 16K expansion pack to be delivered, but the company won't answer the phone for some reason. ;) "

    I can tell you right now that you'll never see Ant Attack for ZX81 - maybe for whatever Sinclair has lined up for its next gen machine (ZX82? Maybe if they add colour they could code-name it 'Rainbow' or something?)

    Best stick to 3d Monster Maze till then ;)

  • drumm23 #171 4 years ago

    you also mentioned "black" level on your LCD symbiote...
    that's **GREY** - have a look.

    Sony Bravia & Picture Quality --- you are having a laugh.
    Go and have a look at a Pio/Panny/Fuji plasma and cry blooooooooood.

  • JDub #172 4 years ago

    @Quantumsheep - Damn, some wetware memory fragmentation there - My bad!! :)

  • Apologie #173 4 years ago

    All i can say to X360 fanboy's is that your missing the best system on the market... stop beign narrowminded and just enjoy the fact that the PS3 have already great games to offer... and many more to come in the future. Or at least stop saying shit like "PS3 Suck's, don't have games, it's doomed etc..." make you guy's sound retarded.
    Ps3 had, in my opinion, a good 1st year with some exclusive top of the line titles like Ratchet, Resistance, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Motorstorm, Heavenly Sword, Drakes Fortune, Folklore and Warhawk... UT3, that outstanding title, appears to be in stores these year as well, and, at least for some time, only for PS3.

    Not to mention the great exclusives that will appear next year so, nothing to worry about, Ps3 is a safe and good investment... anyone can see it..., but, nontheless, if you guy's are on a mission of stupidity and loyalty to Microsoft, continue. who gives a shit.

  • drumm23 #174 4 years ago

    Evidently - you.
    Duh.

  • Kryon #175 4 years ago

    Apologie were you infused with the brain of spasticated ferret at birth or something?

  • imperial_seal #176 4 years ago

    360 is great if you are into FPS and Racing games developed by Western games companies. I just prefer the PS3 as there are much more Jap Developed games on it and they seem to handle the PS3 dev kit perfectly well, maybe Valve need to better programmers for console not just PC ones.

  • Trane #177 4 years ago

    "Apologie were you infused with the brain of spasticated ferret at birth or something? "

    Harsh on the ferret tbh.

    Apologie - the whole "anyone can see the PS3 is teh best" tilt from you is wearing so thin I could floss my bloody teeth with it. Your complaining about the 360 fanboys is hypocritical beyond belief.

    You sir are a clownboat of the highest order.

  • symbiote #178 4 years ago

    "you also mentioned "black" level on your LCD symbiote...
    that's **GREY** - have a look"

    Again, your comments are somewhat out of date. I spent a considerable amount of time researching TVs when I purchased mine and yes, whilst cheaper LCDs struggle to produce black, better ones do not.

    Like I said, SEDTV is the way forward but in recent years the gap between LCD and Plasma has not just narrowed, it's vanished. The only reason to buy a Plasma is if you want a 50"+ set.

  • Xerx3s #179 4 years ago

    360 is great if you are into FPS and Racing games developed by Western games companies.

    Yup, it has delivered very well in those respects. Fortunately, it also excels at the other genres I like such as RPG, 3rd person action, Fighting games, small indy/budget/casual games, etc.

    I just prefer the PS3 as there are much more Jap Developed games on it and they seem to handle the PS3 dev kit perfectly well, maybe Valve need to better programmers for console not just PC ones.

    Valve has ps3 coders and iirc, EA handles the ps3 port. Porting code from one language to another can be very problematic. Certain concepts work on one language and not in another. It all comes down to the knowhow.
    Considering that the source code has already been used on the xbox and that the 360 libraries are similar if not the same to a lot of the Dx stuff it would be easier to port it to the 360 because they already have more experience on that field than to the ps3 because they have to get the knowhow and the experience.

    It can be a problematic experience even for a ps3 coding specialist not because of the technical capacity of the ps3 but simply because structural coding philosophy differences.

    I.e. with Ms C# you have access to an automatic garbage collector (detects stuff in memory that is unused and throws it away) it could be possible that another language doesn't have this, forcing you to write one yourself (I'm not a ps3 programmer and this is just a hypothetical example). This would increase development time.

  • Killerbee #180 4 years ago

    Hmmm.

    Whilst I'd put Haze, Assassin's Creed, Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted on my watch list, I can't say there's a huge amount else that makes me really covet a PS3. At least, I'm pretty comfortable waiting until the Dualshock 3 gets a proper launch over here and MGS4 arrives.

  • SeesThroughAll #181 4 years ago

    I.e. with Ms C# you have access to an automatic garbage collector (detects stuff in memory that is unused and throws it away) it could be possible that another language doesn't have this, forcing you to write one yourself (I'm not a ps3 programmer and this is just a hypothetical example). This would increase development time.

    Garbage collection is the worst heritage brought about by Java. It gives developers bad habits that result in poor code when working with standard C++.

  • drumm23 #182 4 years ago

    yep symbiote - it MUST be true because Sony said so, and all their coloured balls........ mmmmmmm.........

    Not an LCD in the world that comes near a Pio/Panny plasma for picture quality. NOTAONE. Go and ask a specialist installer. Then go and ask all the coloured balls. Then suck some.

  • symbiote #183 4 years ago

    @drumm23

    Look, dude, I get it, you're proud of your Plasma. Good for you. I'm sure the picture IS excellent. Here's my story:

    I wanted a 37" HDTV. No bigger as I live in a small house. Sony only do 32 or 40. Scratch that. I bought an LG LCD and yes, it fell foul of many of the things you point out: refresh rate, black levels, viewing angle. Sent it back in exchange for a Panasonic Vierra Plasma. Better, but not as sharp (1024x768 resolution on Widescreen!!??), had ghosting from minor screen burn after playing Hexic for an hour and also had a fault which resulted in solarising dark greys. Engineer came out, agreed and that went back. I realised I needed to spend more cash, did my research and ended up with a Philips Ambilight, 180 viewing angle, blacks blacker than my fucking PS3 below it, 5ms response time, 1080 resolution, no screen burn, brighter and more vivid colours than a Plasma (you do know that Plasma struggle to produce white as cheap LCDs struggle to produce black, don't you?) and a sharper PROPER widescreen resolution as it has SQUARE pixels. Sure, it can be a bit too bright at times (say, watching a movie) but it has a wonderful Eco setting that turns off some of it's bulbs. The end result is very much like a Plasma picture. Perfect. Added to that it has PixelPlus which makes any SD signal look near as damn it HD. Pop a DVD into the PS3, upscale it, HDMI it, PixelPlus it...fucking awseome.

    I have a great TV, you have a great TV. The end.

    Oh, and I wouldn't trust a 'specialist' anyway: Plasma have seen RAPID decline in sales over recent years (rightly or wrongly, just fact) so why WOULDN'T they want to shift stock and tell me how wonderful it is?
    Edited by 1 at 05/11/07 @ 12:08

  • imperial_seal #184 4 years ago

    Plasma is so last year, UK is at least a year behind Japan in television technology, and you can't even buy a plasma TV over there, its all LCDs.

    Anyway this is thread going a bit off topic, which is the PS3 games list for Xmas !

  • Kenshin001 #185 4 years ago

    And what a great list it is. This is just Christmas too, next year it has a stellar line up. Can't say the same for the 360 though, all the games on that console look a bit crap for 2008.

  • TRUTH #186 4 years ago

    Diomedes:
    Look at your list then compare game consoles for gaming: Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox can be played on 360 with it HD upgrade and with more levels and extra and so much cheaper. HS - come on! you call this a great game (It's easy, short, the combos never really come into much use as you can use same one most of the time..) and Conan is on 360 and DMC4 is coming to 360. Don't forget Ninja gaiden 2 is exclusive to 360.

    FPS: Resistance you call this a great game - it's average, nothing more. Killzone 1 was shit and you can't comment on 2 not seeing it; watching in preview it already looked fairy liner experience and lets not forget the 1st one hype was totally different to the what the game delivered ..Unreal 3 is coming to 360..Haze may come to 360 at a later date, but nothing amazing about game at the moment. As for 360 fps Vs PS3: F.E.A.R (ruined on PS3 but quality on 360), Call Of Duty 3 (better on 360), Call Of Duty 2(360), Halo 3(360), Bioshock (360), Condemned (360), Half Life 2 The Orange Box (360 at present), The Darkness (again better on 360), and every game listed is better then Resistance:FOM.

    Driving on 360: Forza 2, PGR 4, Burnout 5, Flatout:UC, Moto GP 07, Sega Rally (runs 1080p on 360 not PS3 and also rumble function not on PS3), Test Drive, Need For Speed (looks better on 360).

    Arcade on 360: Lost Planet, Stranglehold, Ninty Nine Nights, NBA Street (colors/lighting better on 360), and those online games: Jet-Pac, Mutant Storm HD, Street Fighter II, and a whole host of other arcade games. Oh! Street Fighter III Third Strike can also be played on 360.

    RPG on 360: Oblivion, Enternal Sonata, Blue Dragon and to come: Mass Effect, Cry-On, Lost Oddysee, Too Human (adv-rpg-action), Fable 2 - all exclusives to 360. Also: Fallout 3, Black & White 2, The Craft..etc.

    Fighting: Virtua Fighter 5(runs and looks better on 360 with also new modes & online), Dead Or Alive 4 and soon 5, and online SNK 2d beat em ups soon. Street Fighter III.

    I can go on & on, but your point of stating 'rival consoles will see' is totally crap!...Adv, Racing, Arcade, RTS, RPGs, Survival Horror, Inovation gaming..etc etc. 360 is simply ahead now and there's more to come.

    Online right now on 360 is the best possible experience. The future it will evolve and continue to push forward. I suggest you do your research before simply commenting as a fanboy. You can call me a 360 fanboy - but having both systems I can compare the 2 and see which is best for gaming. Lets not forget the cross format
    games are mainly better and alot cheaper to get hold of then PS3 versions. The promise the PS3 by Sony hype
    has not been delivered. They boast about how they'll crush the Wii/360 at most opportunities and now must take the flack simply it's been for a year now nothing but hot-air.

    Edited by 3 at 05/11/07 @ 22:20

  • imperial_seal #187 4 years ago

    The truth is TRUTH has too much time on his hands, are you paid by MS per word ? I told you what though, good thing about the 360 is that you can chip it and get pirate games for 50p in China, that's one big advantage I suppose. One could buy all the 360 games ever released for less than £100 :)
    Edited by 1 at 06/11/07 @ 06:17

  • TRUTH #188 4 years ago

    imperial_seal

    I have well paid job - which is no business of yours. Can't take the comments DON'T READ!