Pro Evo 2008 unveiled News

great news and licensed brazil!

visually it looks the same as the 360-

Any news on no lag internet mode or not the same scripted deflection and the usual 8 direction CPU controlled passes?

It looks the bloody same! Jesus, I love th gameplay but they can surely add to it graphically for the next gen generation. I don't wanna feel like I'm playing a dated game!

Er, is EG saying there isn't going to be a Wii version; cause I though it was confirmed ages ago.

Should be a good fight this time around I think...

I'm currently very unexcited about this game. PES6 was a farce and Konami have got a lot to make up to me before I forgive them. Heck, I could even turn to the dark side this generation.

Hmm I got stung with the half arsed game they released on the 360 in 2006 so i'm not going to get too excited about it just yet.

Good stuff. I don't really care about the graphics, they look decent, and as long as the animation is good with a rock solid framerate I'll be happy. These "artistic" shots are never representative of what you'll be looking at during gameplay anyway.

yay

PE6 good on ps2, shit on 360. hopefully its better this time around.

if someone told me these screenshots were from pes4 i would believe them...

looks exactly the same as pro 6. early days though

whoa, talk about resting our your laurels! i'm thinking the "its all about the gameplay" stuff won't cut it on the next gen consoles anymore. i'm all for great gameplay, but as your man said, no-one wants to be playing a dated looking game, and paying full whack for it to boot. (pun very much intended). say what you want about FIFA and EA, but they look like they are really trying recently.

I don't like the fact that they have a name for their new feature... Sounds like an EA gimmick.
The whole thing looks ok but since most people play this game multiplayer rather than solo, improved AI is not the most important news. As long as the AI stops tackle in the penalty area I'm fine with it.
I think Konami makes enough money a year to offer us at last a fully licensed game with great commentaries. Come on, we're on a New Gen now!

The graphics do look better than Pro Evolution Soccer 6, there's a lot more detail.

the graphics dont look the same, they look better. the detail is better and there is way less crappy bloom than the 360 version

better, but still not what you would call "next gen" surely? lets hope its better than PES 6 at least, fingers crossed...

Sort out the DS version this time please.

I feel underwhelmed.

Looks ok, but not next-gen in my book.

Whats the screenshot with the player talking in the microphones all about then?

About time we had some news on this! So an Autumn release would October as usual then? Can't wait.

Sounds promising... but will they fix the things that have been inherently broken since PES1 (rubbish throw-ins, penalties etc.)

and no, I'm not a FIFA fanboy, quite the opposite in fact. I just want what's right for my PES!

I also don't care much for the graphics. I just want old ridiculous problems fixed for good this time. The slow evolution of the gameplay along the series, and the failure to get inspiration from things that other football games did right a decade ago is starting to get on my nerves...if you don't agree, answer these questions:

1- Why can't you select the defender you want to control in corner and free kicks?(i'm so sick and tired of having to chalenge my opponent's tallest player with Leo Messi and other similar dwarves)
2- Why has the throw in system been the same crap for 20 diferent versions (look into ISS98 on the Nintendo 64)
3- Why do keepers still run out of the goal in the wrong line to meet the attacker (this was almost 100% fixed back in PES5)
4- Why do the players teleport (the formations reset themselves)when there is a throw in or a goal kick
5- Why isnt there an option to cycle through diferent offensive/defensive team positions in set pieces (eg: in a corner kick press L1 to make your player shuffle around, and even call CB to the attacking area...or keep them back)
6-Why do we have to wait for a stupid keeper animation to end before we can start a counter attack
7-why does the keeper kick the ball in the opposite direction of the one we press?
8-Why does AI sometimes prevent you from passing the ball from the keeper to that guy just in front of him...
9- why are we forced to push 2 diferent buttons simultaneously and pull back on the stick just to make our player not go where he wants to go!? (Super cancel shouldnt have to exist)
10-why do we keep having players chase through balls in a predetermined "on rails" path!?
11-why are penalties a simple matter of pushing one of eight directions...and wait for the AI to calculate if your going to score or not. In real life penalties take skill and mental control (look into ISS 98, the best penalty system ever in a football game)
12-Why on earth do we have to put up with a 8 directions control system in an era of analog control???!!!! I want to pass the ball THAT way not to where you just forced me to ...

i could go on and on... PES needs a gameplay revolution...not another flimsy evolution...it needs new minds and ideas behind it...not the same "afraid to break somthing" people that have been producing it over and over again. Either that or Konami should consider rebranching the series on 2 diferent paths, like it once did.

Teamvision AI? o_O

Who are they EA or something. ¬_¬

Agree with above (pfm) the PES series has become stale and needs a total overhaul not just tweaking.

Whatever you say, pes still has the best feel for a football game

pfm, I feel your pain too.

The last decent pes for me, was pes4. At least the f'kin players wernt scripted everytime you go for a 50/50 ball. I've seen my striker clear threw on goal, only to be intercepted by a defender going double the speed, cuz the AI cheats.

The game (especially online) has become a right shambles over the past few years.

I think Konami makes enough money a year to offer us at last a fully licensed game with great commentaries. Come on, we're on a New Gen now!

It doesn't matter if Konami have more money than Microsoft, it's basically down to who Fifa will give the contractual Liscence to, in this case the Fifa liscence is contracted for EA to use till 2012 or something along those lines. :(

No news on which Premiership teams will be licensed this time round, I take it?

Looks horrible, Fifa 08 will kill it in gameplay, graphics, online.

Just horrible...

Quoting:
superdelphinus
18-Jun-07 14:15:53
"Whatever you say, pes still has the best feel for a football game "

Exactly! Thats what makes all the more frustrating...sometimes it seems that the easy bits to pull off right ...are being completely overlooked by the dev team

" why do we keep having players chase through balls in a predetermined "on rails" path!? "

pfm ..(nice name lo)...by holding r1 and r2 (aka cancel) u can move "off the rails" to grab a through ball before the defender does...infact its in the control videos in the training section...try to learn the full game before ur criticise it mate

keano,

mate, i do know the game i've played every version since ISS Pro Evolution on the PS1 (and previously coming from sensible soccer on Amiga , fifa94 and ISS Deluxe on SNES, ISS 64, 98 and 2000 on the N64, Fifa 96 to 2000 on the PC)...so i do know what im talking about. What i was questioning is the mere existence of the Super Cancel "move". The design of the game should have evolved to make the Super Cancel (which should only have been a temporary fix) obsolete.

try to read and understand what you read before criticising it mate...

This new "Team AI" isn't new at all - EA published a paper about it years ago, in conjunction with a Canadian uni (Alberta?). Also, being able to choose how many defenders you have in a wall - that was in Kick Off 2 on the Amiga! Does that also mean we dont have to have a defensive wall for a free kick pracitally on the half way line anymore?

Frankly, as other posters have said, there are far more things to fix before they start adding new features. Super Cancel being a prime contender, but I would also like to add free kicks (I have *never* scored from one, no matter what skill level/person I'm controlling - and yes, mock if you wish), some sort of corner tactics, etc etc.

PES stopped "evolving" at PES4, as others have said. From now on, come on Konami, hire a new artist at least!

But I would also like to add free kicks (I have *never* scored from one, no matter what skill level/person I'm controlling - and yes, mock if you wish), some sort of corner tactics, etc etc.

*mock* *mock* *mock*

I don't know what they could do with Freekicks to make them easier other than making a cursour that tells you exactly where you're going to kick *shudders*

Pro Evo 6 has made scoring direct from free kicks harder, and i blame that down to the extra buttons you have to press to even make a threatening free kick in the first place.

I passed on PES 6. It will be interesting to see if they sort out:

"...And Cristiano Ronaldo skips past the chronically obese, asthmatic right back and races down the wing. What's this ? The right back - who has been nursing a broken leg - has managed to catch him up and make the tackle ! "

they could also spend time on a UI that is consistently inconsistent, ugly, ungainly, and counterintuitive.

but they won't

Wonder if Bundesliga will feature this time...if not I may give it a miss.

Oh you can SUPER CANCEL to get a through-ball then Keano.

Ooooh, oh that makes all the difference.

You see when I have a controller in my hand and it's plugged in, I stupidly thought that I was controlling the player on the screen. Every other game has always fooled me into thinking that. But PES has shown me the light.

Out of these two options:

1) the player actually does what you tell it to

2) the player is actually half-controlled by the AI

I'd obviously always go for option 2.

That's why when I choose to shoot in the top right hand corner but instead it goes down the middle of the goal straight at the keeper. It's the AI assisting me.

Oh man, nothing to criticise there. Absolutely nothing at all.

Super cancel ftfw!!!

(quite why something where you have to press two buttons to actually gain control of it is "SUPER" I'll never bloody know!)

If they don't fix the slowdown in wide view for the 360, they can go and jump off a cliff

In honour of my boys' recent promotion, I propose they change the name "Master League" to "Sophia's Boobies"

All I need to know is which is the lead version, 360 or PS3?

I would have thought the PS3 version will be the main focus and MS's console will just get the scraps. Isn't that how Konami usually work?

PS2 will be the lead console at this rate.

Pro Evo feels like a cheat now where as it required skill, imagination and strategy in it's glory days

If you don't think the game requires skill or strategy then may I ask, what game does?

I can honestly say I think each version has been better than the previous. I don't doubt that this version will be the best either.

I don't even like football and I could make a better control system tham PES's using both analogue sticks and the shoulder buttons.

it is worrying that the single most important control mechanism remains the super cancel. you're basically giving the player the chance to break the game's animation/ai because they won't do the job if left to their own devices.

I've never understood supercancel. Why not just let the player move where they want when the ball is in flight? Ok it might take some getting used to, but isnt that one of the things people like about PES anyway?

I'm not getting into the FIFA/PES debate, but one of the nice features of the "current" gen versions of 06 and 07 was that on the whole it lets you move the player where you wanted when the ball was in the air. I dont understand why the PES/nexgen FIFA engines feel they need to move your player for you.

graphics are appalling

i have always swayed to PES, but the annual clone is getting too much

Fifa anyone?

And the music. Oh sweet lord the music.

Wanky japanese electro-jazz FTUMFL.