Prince of Persia: Rival Swords Comments by James Lyon

From GOW2, to even Tomb radier anniversary, have all moved the expected goalpost.

I haven't played GoW2, but I did play the first one, and that is in all relevant respects born of the same design ethos as Ocarina of Time and Ninja Gaiden. Nothing wrong with that, but it's not "moving the goalposts".

Tomb Raider Anniversary isn't out, but if it's Tomb Raider Legend you mean, it's quite a stretch to think of it as a relevant game in this regard. Tomb Raider Legend did some things competently, but designwise the most innovative thing it did was to use physics in its puzzles. Which, again, was common in much earlier games.

The point here is if the moving og goalposts actually makes The Two Thrones/Rival Swords feel dated (and thereby "less fun"). I don't think so - I think TTT/RS feels just about as dated now as it did then.

Even if this game had improved graphics and the Wii controls enhanced the game-play; it sill wouldn't justify the asking price. I'm sure this game was released as a budget title over the pond; I know that Mercury Meltdown and Resident Evil 4 are budget titles in the US. Game has reduced most of their PS3 titles to £39.99 and they expect us to pay the same price for Wii ports of old games?

Bust a Move and Cooking Mama are both £39.99 at Game; but these games aren't full price titles. I'd appreciate paying £39.99 for a title that has been years in the making and even if the game doesn’t cut the mustard; you can see the effort that has been put into the development of the project.

Britney Spears could grow her hair long enough to touch her arse before I'd contemplate buying a Ubisoft title on a Nintendo console again.

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I'm sure this game was released as a budget title over the pond

GameStop has it listed for $49.99 US (about 25.00 GBP).

>Does anyone think that re-releases such as POP, Godfather

I like Godfather wii.. it's ace.

Never played the original, but the wii version is great (love aiming with the wiimote - feels like a playing a fps on a pc)

"GameStop has it listed for $49.99 US (about 25.00 GBP). "

Plus tax - so about 30 quid.

I think it's fair to mark the game down for the price and given the fact it's old and not an enhanced version at all (except 480p and widescreen which doesn't count if you owned the xbox version) IF there is some hint in the closing section. I often have reviews that read like an 8 and then the game gets a 6 so it would be nice to add a sentence that the game was marked down for being a 'cheap' port. Nothing wrong with that but a bit confusing for people who haven't played it yet.

I agree actually. Ports like this need to be judged on their own merits, with a note at the end saying "but if you've already played this, then dont bother".

For example godfather on the wii i like (but then i never played the other versions). But I prolly wont bother with Re4 wii (because i've played it to death on the cube, and still own the cube version - which works in the wii).

I agree actually. Ports like this need to be judged on their own merits, with a note at the end saying "but if you've already played this, then dont bother".

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I just read the review and I think the 6 is fair, I mean look at the PSP version which got some new content and the Wii version didn't! Unbelievable.

But oh wait it's Ubisoft when it comes to Nintendo platforms any old crap seems to do according to them.

There's a rumour that Rockstar's Table Tennis is heading to the Wii; now there's a port I would like. I couldn't give a monkeys toss about the graphics; if the game works and your own moves are generated by the Wii-mote, then this would be perfect. I want it on-line too.

There are people in this thread expressing opinions that are not the same as my opinions and that makes them TROLLS.

Trolls intend to wreck threads. Nothing here seems like that. For fuck's sake get over the fact that people's opinions differ.

@YourMessageHere: While i agree this thread isnt half as bad as usual.. there are clear trolly comments - such as:

"Another twiiumph. "
and
"Why complain about this being last-gen?"

or indeed:

"For every crappy game released with barely functioning controls, the Wii feels more and more like the gimmick"

When the review even praises said controls.


Added to that the comments thread says 66 comments in total, but i can only see 43 - so that's at 23 comments from trolls which i've blocked (have no idea what they've posted though)

"oh just do the sequel to Beyond Good & Evil will you"

Too bl**dy right. Slipped BG&E into my George Forman grill last week just to check the backwards compatability (plays perfectly as far as I played), and didn't put the controller down for couple of hours. Still looks and plays beautifully. How Ubi can waste time on the recent tripe and let this classic molder in the back of the cubboard is Beyond me (see what I did there).

What? Didn't sell you say? Pfft. Philistines! 'Tis Art, darling. It's not meant to make tawdry money.

But I'm sure that it's legend (and Ebay price) has now grown to the point that, like Shadow of the Colossus, a sequel would do decent sales this time around.

Beyond Good & Evil was a cutesy-poo button-masher.

It would be hard to judge the game on its own merits simply because, journos who run sites would have played the game before or any of the trilogy, because its there job. Its hard to have an objective view on something youve played before. Someone else entirely who hasnt played any of the pops would be the only one able to judge it on its own merits. Then again, youd have to get that with every sequel ever made and i dont see that happening any time soon.

Some leway, would have the reviewer give 2 scores, those who have played it before and those who havent, but how would the reviewer themselves give an objective review?

But surely those that have played the game before are therefor more objective.

If the game isnt as good the 2nd time around, then maybe it wasnt THAT good to start with?

Halo2 got high(ish) scores the first time around, do you really think it'd get the same now - if it was reviewed again without the tinted specs?

Come on, play this: http://s2.bitefight.ro/c.php?uid=25305