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PlayStation 3 News by Tom Bramwell

3 April, 2009

Sony has released a free update for PlayTV that introduces an SD upscaler among other new features.

Perhaps most exciting (relatively speaking) is the new ability to go directly to watching TV from the XMB, rather than having to click through menus.

Producer Mark Bunting announced the new features in a Three Speech video blog, adding that there are also new fast-forward and rewind speeds, and new volume controls.

The SD upscaler is "basically magic with maths", he said, providing "sharper pictures" and "improved contrast" to normal TV images.

"One day we want PlayTV to work in high definition," he added, "but we can only do that when free digital TV comes in HD, which at the moment only happens in France and Spain."

To get the update, PlayTV users who haven't done so before should scroll down to the "About" button in the Settings menu and click through to download. Those of you who have previously updated should have a Software Update button on the main menu carousel.

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degville
03/04/09 @ 08:47
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How about a freesat version of PlayTv?
AusFreelancer
03/04/09 @ 09:00
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How about an Australian version of PlayTV?
Ornithophobe
03/04/09 @ 09:01
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Still no series record, without that I will never be able to justify it as a replacement for WMCE box + 360.
bodypopper
03/04/09 @ 09:09
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The bit about France and Spain is misleading. When Freeview HD arrives the current Play TV box won't be compatible. Considering any new box will need new DVB-T2 chips for Freeview HD, it will probably be a bit pricey too.
BillPoon
03/04/09 @ 09:18
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Useless without a Conditional Access Module.
TheWretched
03/04/09 @ 09:22
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What about a cable or satellite version? Then I'd be interested
valli
03/04/09 @ 09:28
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I must be thick or something, unless the update isn't up yet.
neilka
03/04/09 @ 09:30
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They really should shut up about the HD thing or UK customers are going to be pretty upset when it completely fails to work, for the reason stated above.
dr.glyndwr
03/04/09 @ 09:39
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@bodypopper, @neilka: "When Freeview HD arrives the current Play TV box won't be compatible."

We don't know that's true, actually. The signal reception bits of DVB-T and DVB-T2 don't differ very much, the main difference is the encoding standard of the bitstream inside the signal. As Sony are probably doing the decode in software, rather than hardware (god knows the PS3 has enough stream processing power), it's possible that a new firmware for the relatively dumb tuner box and new software for the PS3 side will allow PlayTV to receive FTA HD.

It's the only explanation I can think of for Sony's confidence; they clearly pushed PlayTV as being HD capable and will pretty much have to issue refunds to everyone if it can't.
MaliceMajorE15
03/04/09 @ 09:45
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i dont think this update is out yet cos i cant get it. im anxious to see what this access to live tv from the xmb is, because i thought thats what i was doing, if it means in-game then i will be over the moon
Wyrm
03/04/09 @ 10:08
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Yeah, it's not up yet.
X201
03/04/09 @ 10:10
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@dr.glyndwr The points that go against the upgrade the firmware option are that programmable turner chips cost loads more than hard coded ones, which wouldn't be economical for a consumer product like PlayTV. The other point is that their were no flashable chips on the market when Play TV was launched.

The simple answer is that Sony know what chips they've put in the device, they know the DVB-T2 standards so they could very easily announce whether or not Play TV can be upgraded and shut the likes of bodypopper, neilka, the numerous other people saying "its not possible" and myself up once and for all. But they haven't.
mcwildcard
03/04/09 @ 10:17
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Wow, well I already have PlayTV, so this is great news.
Sorry for disturbing all the moaners out there, most of whom probably don't even own it, you can continue now.
bodypopper
03/04/09 @ 10:17
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There are countless tuners for PCs etc on the market touting HD compatibility when what they really mean is in a general Euro sense (eg it works in France and Spain). It's just confusing people.
Being in the industry I was told only last week that Sony is closely involved in the development of DVB-T2 chips as it wants to get products out quickly. I would say a new box is the way to go.
X201
03/04/09 @ 10:34
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@mcwildcard

Had it since day of release knew that it wouldn't do HD when I bought it. Not bothered about lack of HD and would buy a HD version. Just wish Sony would come clean and be done with it
Vistrix
03/04/09 @ 10:55
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Awesome update.

PlayTV is incredible, I use it every day. It by far has the best TV guide system Ive ever used.
septimus
03/04/09 @ 10:57
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Good news. It is nice to have as a quick replacement for each and every time my Sky HD fucks up.

That and it was only £40 for PlayTV, I don't mind getting another if they release a HD compatible one at the same price.
Mark0605
03/04/09 @ 11:38
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not up yet aghh!
PrivateJoker
03/04/09 @ 12:08
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Good news, love my playtv.
redlander
03/04/09 @ 13:00
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How about they release and update to get mine to fracking work!

/grumble grumble
tonynibbles
03/04/09 @ 13:33
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Nice. The image quality is already very good, this should push it well in to awesome.
valli
03/04/09 @ 13:34
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So is it out yet?
onyxbox
03/04/09 @ 13:42
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it still needs Series Linking tho'... c'mon can't be that difficult surely.
MaliceMajorE15
03/04/09 @ 13:56
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come on already!!!
BraveArse
03/04/09 @ 14:41
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Has series link even been implemented by freeview broadcasters yet? Last time I read about it ( admittedly a while ago ), it was mooted as part of a new standard but was yet to be implemented.
Greebo
03/04/09 @ 15:00
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Any PVR with the Freeview+ symbol will have a series link capability
drxym
03/04/09 @ 15:19
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Does the PlayTV have AVC support? Ireland is adopting DVB-T with AVC encoded content there are even test broadcasts happening around my region right now. It would be nice to buy the adapter and be able to watch them.
drxym
03/04/09 @ 15:29
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Concerning DVB-T vs DVB-T2, my understanding is that the way the channels are transmitted is different. Channel data is interleaved within one digital stream rather than being split into separate streams. If the device is just some braindead dongle that tunes to some frequency and lets the software do the rest then yes it may be that the PlayTV can do T2. If however, there is substantial functionality on the chip then it probably won't. I assume for example that the USB is returning raw stream data so it may be that the PS3 lets the the device tune into the data and it simply cannot work with T2.

Still, I think Sony should be in a position to say whether it would work or not. I'd also wish that Sony would make a satellite version, and perhaps even a hybrid version too. In some countries, not all channels are going to be the same through satellite and aerial and it would be nice if a single unified device could handle them all.
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03/04/09 @ 15:54
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@drxym: If it did just dump signal data to the HD and decode it in the PS3, then they could just update the software. But if this was possible, why haven't they jumped at the chance to shout from the rooftops that PlayTV is future proof?


MrNyarlathotep
03/04/09 @ 17:02
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"But if this was possible, why haven't they jumped at the chance to shout from the rooftops that PlayTV is future proof? "

Because if anything prevented it happening it would be "OMG SONY YOU PROMISED HD TV, MORE LIES 4TH DIMENSION GIANT ENEMY CRAB" again probably.
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03/04/09 @ 17:06
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God damn it, why is this still not up yet? Bloody Eurogamer, you made it sound as if the update was live now.
MaliceMajorE15
03/04/09 @ 17:19
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i always wondered how sites get access to updates b4 us. if indeed they do. on second reading of the article it doesnt say wether they tried it just that it was announced on three speech.
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Rash'
03/04/09 @ 19:28
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personally i think sony aren't shouting it's future proof because it isn't (by current expected UK standards). i think they decided to release the kit rather than wait for a global standard in HD as there are at present no guarantees where the technology is heading. UK are gunning for one standard while the rest of europe has another. personally i think they were right to go ahead. my PS3 has transformed since i got the kit.
chanandler
03/04/09 @ 20:05
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Update still not there..... maybe it's a late April Fool :)
napalm68
03/04/09 @ 22:10
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AusFreelancer - the UK PlayTV works fine here in Australia, with the exception of SBS. Works with HD too.

I'll probably get the Aus one if they sort that out and ever release it here.

The update isn't there yet. Still 1.02.
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drxym
03/04/09 @ 22:24
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I don't think anybody really thinks Sony should say its future proof. At the moment the device is interesting but there are far too many open questions that need answers. The PlayTV website hosts an annoying flash app and an extremely vague FAQ. How about some adding some technical meat and potatoes for people who just want to know what it can and can't do, and what its capable of doing?
AusFreelancer
03/04/09 @ 22:58
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napalm68 - the UK PlayTV works fine here in Australia, with the exception of SBS. Works with HD too.

Yeah, that's the thing, I'd get it mainly to record Top Gear, and that's on SBS...till that's sorted, I doubt we'll see it released here. I'm sure our version will be the exact same hardware as the UK's.
Retroid [mod]
04/04/09 @ 13:09
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I would've thought it would have an upscaler anyway. But nice that it *does* do that.
Vesuri
04/04/09 @ 13:49
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Still no update. How about announcing releases when they are actually released?
wayneh
04/04/09 @ 16:51
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How does everyone know it's not DVB-T2 compatible? My Bravia manual states it's DVB-T but it contains a DVB-T2 decoder but for some reason Sony don't advertise this in the UK.
fiddie
04/04/09 @ 17:31
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why doesnty sum1 just open the play tv box up and see what chips arstalled dunno if u could tell anything from this just a thaught tho...
X201
04/04/09 @ 21:21
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@wayneh
There were no commercial use DVB-T2 tuner chips in existence anywhere in the World when PlayTV was released. The only ones that existed were expensive programmable ones being used for transmitter tests.
X201
04/04/09 @ 21:22
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@fiddie
I'm going to one day. As long as the chip numbers haven't been scrubbed it might point to an answer.
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04/04/09 @ 22:01
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Right then.

Have opened up PlayTV box (4 screws hidden under sticky feet if you want to have a look yourself)

Inside is a circuit board with 3 chips on it.

One of the chips is a USB controller chip the other two are tuner chips manufactured by a company called DibCom

The two chips are labelled as 7070PB1
A quick look on DibCom's website (Here) reveals that the 7070P (in fact everything in the 7070 chip range) is a DVB-T tuner.

EDIT:Will take and post photos tomorrow.
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napalm68
04/04/09 @ 22:50
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Has the update shown up yet?
red_shift
05/04/09 @ 19:10
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Nope, its still not up.
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EarlBassett
05/04/09 @ 19:29
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Jesus, how about reporting on something that actually exists?
napalm68
05/04/09 @ 22:06
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Yeah, so it isn't just me, noone has found this so called update...

This ticks me off. If it was a day off the original announcement that would be ok. But this is ridiculous.
YobRenoops
06/04/09 @ 11:03
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Where's the update then EG? Anyone?
EarlBassett
07/04/09 @ 12:08
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its live now

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