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PlayStation 3 News by Robert Purchese
Sony has told Eurogamer that PlayTV will not allow saved video files be transferred to PSP, PC or Memory Stick.
Instead, the PS3 TV recorder will only be able to stream live or recorded content to your PSP using Remote Play functionality.
Sony Cambridge, the studio making the software for PlayTV, had told us there was no copy protection or time restrictions on the standard format recordings, which could be moved freely onto all manner of storage devices.
No reason for the change of heart was given.
We were also told that PlayTV will not record HD signals at launch, and that Sony is working on making this feature possible in the future.
PlayTV will launch on 19th September for GBP 69.99.
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dazrichards
13/08/08 @ 16:00
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Oh brilliant. So, if you are runnnig low on hard disk space you can't transfer anything to burn to disk? Next, they will say that you can only record the Eastenders omnibus
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Mattattattatt
13/08/08 @ 16:17
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I bet their legal department got scared of a test case like the (failed) one against them when they brought out the Betamax VCR in the 80s. If you read up on that it goes into stuff not deliberately there to infringe and mainly having non-infringing uses... the law with copying stuff for personal use is a bit cloudy so maybe the copying and transferring feature in isolation was a bit risky to keep in.
Which is a great shame and some other PVRs let you do it - just not straight out to a nice neat Mpeg afaik |
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dazrichards
13/08/08 @ 16:22
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Meanwhile, I will use my DVD recorder to record from the built-in freeview tuner before transferring them to DVD-RW disks which can therefore be easily copied using a PC. I don't understand why Sony is doing this when there isn't any copy protection elsewhere (i.e. in rival products)
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soundtrack
13/08/08 @ 16:28
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I take it the same goes for external HDDs? I almost regret having bothered to buy a 320gb one now, will have to find summat else to fill it with. Balderdash! And poppycock!
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Well there goes my purchase.
+1 sony...wtf are you doing AGAIN??? Apple kicked your ass with the ipod and itunes. they gave a flying fuck about all those copyright-whiners. Now you are pissing your pants again because of copies??? is it sony films? fuck you - no sale.
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FireworkUK
13/08/08 @ 16:31
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Yet another decision that provides more evidence of Sony really not having a clue what they are doing or what their customers want. This functionality is already widely available in other products. Sony really don't deserve to be successful at the moment.
I was looking forward to PlayTV. Like many others, I'm now no longer interested. The moment the price of standalone blu-ray players drop below the 2nd hand value of my 60GB PS3, I'll sell it. It's only a matter of time. I expect many others will do the same. My 360 is far more fun. |
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dazrichards
13/08/08 @ 16:32
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I think Sony should first stop companies from using mandatory installs for their games. Not doing so could destroy all the PS3's multi media capabilities because there wont be enough room on the hard drive to make any worthwhile
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michaelius
13/08/08 @ 16:36
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I'd say it should sold at 20 pounds price point now.
Altrough probably once 1TB 2.5" get popular it will be more or less moot point if you can copy it or not. |
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seasidebaz
13/08/08 @ 16:40
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I'm going to bring up the whole HD thing again, cos I was right but the other thread is too old...
Viewers who want to watch the new channels will have to buy a new set-top box incorporating the superior MPEG-4 rather than MPEG-2 compression technology. MPEG-4 is twice as efficient as the MPEG-2 standard , while a new European transmission standard (DVB-T2) will increase capacity by 30%. taken from here The whole HD thing DOESN'T require a new box, it requires a new CODEC. And seeing as older freeview boxes have MPEG2 on a non-flashable chip, they can't be updated. PlayTV can, as can BT Vision. Sony messed up with this one. |
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LeeroyJenkins
13/08/08 @ 16:45
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This is a let down, but they are both things I do not need at the moment. I don't have a PSP (and never will), would not have copied files anyway..... and at the moment I do not have HD TV signals, and when I do, I imagine this feature would have been added/enabled.
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Mattattattatt
13/08/08 @ 16:47
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A bit of research later, this might be the reason... The part of the law that lets you tape telly is an exemption to normal copyright law called "time shifting" - so you can watch it at a more convenient time. This is only legal when done in your own home when made from the original television broadcast. When you transferred the file to something else, you could then be making a further copy of the time shifted, mpeg encoded recording, not the original broadcast, even though it's still arguably for personal use, and technically breaking the law.
http://www.copyrightaware.co.uk/protecti... (near the bottom) I'm sure lots of other set-ups let you do it though :( |
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I was actually considering trading in my Wii for a PS3 based partially on Play TV allowing recordings to be transfered. It was perfect for me in that they could be easily archived to the media centre PC and used anywhere in the house. Taking it out has made Play TV utterly useless to me (especially as the largest hard drive in a PS3 is 80Gb leaving very little storage capacity for TV shows after games etc have taken their bite) and thus the PS3 purchase is now much less likely.
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BlueHaze_Sean
13/08/08 @ 17:28
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B*****, fell for it again
Had my expectations raised only for them to be crushed so close to the finish line Sony - Please take course in expectation management |
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RESIDENT_nEVILe
13/08/08 @ 17:35
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Sony are so annoyingly indescicive these days.
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White_Westie
13/08/08 @ 17:39
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I Cant believe it!
I've had this on preorder for ages (even at £99 price point at first). Now they say you cant move recordings to your media pc. I've just cancelled my preorder... well done sony, from my readings everyone is cancelling.... Stop changing the goalposts.... |
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