PlayStation Home
No place like.
Charity may begin at Home, but if you listen to certain vocal sections of the PS3 community the promise of Sony's shared virtual space is starting to sound a lot like an old collection tin with a few coins rattling around inside. Release dates shift, functions and features remain vague, and there's a persistent assumption from the conspiracy-minded that the whole enterprise may yet prove to be nothing but vapourware. Across the wild frontier of the internet, the same question rings out from doubters and wide-eyed hopefuls alike: Does PlayStation Home even exist in a workable form?
Well, yes, of course it does. For one thing, David Reeves has once again promised that you grubby lot will be able to try the open beta trial "this autumn" and your ever-loving Eurogamer can now confirm Home's existence with the cocksure certainty of first hand experience, having spent the best part of a day freely wandering around Home in its current beta state. The occasion, of course, is E3 and Sony decided to allow us lowly writers left behind in Europe, with our stale cheese sandwiches and umbrellas, to share some of the LA glitz and glamour by attending a special press event with developers from Insomniac and Sucker Punch, all inside the virtual cocoon of Home.
Things didn't quite work out that way for this humble reporter, although the fault for that lies with a flaky internet service provider and not Sony. While this means that you'll have to rely on Tom and Ellie's missives from the frontline to learn more about Resistance 2, Ratchet & Clank and Infamous, it does mean that I got to put Home through its paces under extremely testing circumstances and the result was...impressive.
The current Home client clocks in as a 200MB download, and you're prompted to download each new area the first time you visit, in chunks of around 20 to 30MB. There's then a short loading time whenever you walk, or warp, from one place to another but nothing beyond a few seconds.

The first thing you do is create your avatar, choosing from a selection of preset models or tweaking your character using the thumb-sticks to align and alter the different face and body features. As everything is still in beta testing, and changing radically with each update if the latest release notes are any indication, it's hard to pin down just how flexible these tools will end up being. At the moment it's decent, but not quite as comprehensive as the character-creation elements found in, say, Tiger Woods or The Sims. Once you're happy with your virtual appearance, you can finally move into your Home away from home.
You appear in your swanky Harbour Studio, an achingly lifestyle living space made up of one large room with a balcony overlooking a Mediterranean seafront. You can tell it's been designed to death, with the sort of sweeping lines and carefully measured spaces that would make Sarah Beeny blush. Wandering out onto the balcony to admire the view, you're assailed with a symphony of relaxing sounds - waves gently crashing, seagulls crowing high above. The effect is slightly marred by the fact that these sounds instantly stop the second you step through the open patio door back into your apartment, but there's an undeniable appeal to the place.

Pressing the Start button calls up your in-game PSP, which acts as your menu hub within Home. From here you can alter your appearance or wardrobe at any time, and decorate your Home space - or spaces plural, should you invest in additional living areas. Everything is free in the Beta, so I was able to add a rustic summer house to my property portfolio as well. Larger in size than the studio apartment, with a roaring log fire and a two-tier layout, it's another impressively attractive place to hang your virtual hat.
Decorating and arranging furniture is done in a style that calls to mind a simplified Sims. Select the item you want to place from the menu - broken down into self-explanatory sub-sections like chairs, ornaments and appliances - and then simply move it into position with the left stick, rotate it with the top shoulder buttons, and plonk it down. Items have a certain amount of physics, so if you drop a lamp on a table from a great height, chances are it'll fall over. Wallpaper can be cycled through various options with a single button press. There was even a bubble machine tucked away as a special surprise in the PSP inventory.
Not available in this beta build, sadly, were the electronic gadgets and multimedia features that most people will want to play with first. No TV, no music player, no picture frames. This means I can't offer any more illumination as to how Home will integrate with the media files on your hard drive, or how you'll be able to plaster your own photo files over your cyber-walls.
The release notes for this build suggest that the current wardrobe and furniture options will be the default when Home is released, which seems rather stingy. The clothing options are generic and limited, while furniture is restricted to a couple of chairs, a sofa, a few tables and some lamps and knick-knacks. There's a slightly larger selection available from a shop in Home's Marketplace, but it's unclear if these will still be free on release, or if new residents really all be forced to decorate their luxurious living quarters with the same small handful of items. It doesn't quite match up to the aspirational atmosphere Home promotes, and if you need to start forking out micropayments just to make your place even a little bit different to everyone else, I predict loud grumbles.
Your apartment is only part of the Home experience though, so walk over to the door and you're transported to Home Square - the central area where you can mingle with strangers and access the various entertainment options. Your PSP can be used to automatically jump to a particular area, and you can also warp to the location of people on your Friends List. Certain areas can be added to a favourites list, much like bookmarking a website, making the act of getting around even easier.

As with the apartment, the Home Square is all very lovely. Twittering birdsong soundtracks your strolls, while waterfalls and fountains continue the ambient water theme. You can see other people wandering about as well - beta testers and fellow journalists in my case - and communication is varied and simple. If you have a headset, just hold down R2 and talk and anyone within earshot will hear you. If you have a USB keyboard, just type what you want to say and it appears in a speech bubble over your head. With around twenty people clustered in one spot, these speech balloons soon became a bit of a muddle, while the on-screen chat log struggled to keep up. Move to a more secluded spot, however, and it's a fine system.
If you don't have either of those options, you can use the R1 button to open up a menu of preset animations to express everything from approval to anger. It's no way to hold a conversation, but at least you'll be able to join in as a mute commentator. There's even a generous selection of dance moves, and for those who witnessed the awesome sight of the IGN UK, Official PlayStation Magazine and Eurogamer three-way formation robot dance routine, I can only apologise for any feelings of social or sexual inadequacy caused.

There are posters dotted around Home Square, any of which can be viewed in more detail by pressing X while nearby, and large video screens automatically buffer content as you enter. Soundtracks only kick in when you approach, so ambient noise won't drown out conversations, and as with the posters you can press a button to shift the view to something approaching full-screen. Of course, it's really just a fancy way of delivering advertising, but it's hard to deny there's something cool about spotting the Killzone 2 trailer from across the square, and wandering across for a closer look.
Opening onto Home Square are the Game Space, Home Theatre and Marketplace. Game Space is a curious little area, a bowling alley that also houses pool tables and a handful of arcade machine mini-games. You can bowl or shoot pool with friends, but neither is particularly compelling. During bowling, for instance, your avatars simply sit rigid on the bench and the only way you know the other player is taking their shot is because a bowling ball mysteriously flies down the lane by itself. Given the communal nature of Home, this whole area feels curiously slim. Surely, at the very least, the rudimentary arcade games could be replaced with some retro two-player fighting games?
The Home Theatre is where you'll head to watch trailers and other specific video footage. It's a multiplex cinema, with ten screens. During our visit, five were featuring trailers for flicks like Indiana Jones, Kung Fu Panda and the painfully awesome R-rated trailer for Pineapple Express, while the other five hosted E3 trailers for upcoming Sony releases. Unlike the outdoor screens, Home Theatre videos only load as you enter each auditorium. Inside each screen there's no way of moving around or chatting, you're simply presented with a static view of a cinema, and the option to zoom in closer. Even then, the trailers play very small in the middle of the screen and obviously suffer from compression artefacts. They're obviously still finding a balance between loading speed and quality - and these may even be placeholder trailers dropped in for the sake of the beta - but once again it feels like a strangely solitary way of viewing content in such a populated space.
Finally there's the Marketplace, or the Home shopping mall. At the moment there are stores selling (or rather "giving away") new clothes, new furniture and the aforementioned summer house. There are empty shop fronts, which suggests you'll be able to purchase more than just things for inside Home.

And what of the press event? It's here that my fluctuating broadband finally crapped out - thanks BT! - leaving me hanging while downloading the final file for the Events Space. Wandering around the eerily deserted space when the internet data flow finally creaked back into life, it's easy to see how Home has the potential to play host to some pretty cool events. With private rooms, each with their own video screen, and concept art decorating the walls it's easy to see how the old web-chat formula could be livened up no end. It's game developers now, but in few years we could see stars making virtual appearances to promote new movies or TV shows, or virtual conventions to run alongside things like the San Diego Comic Con.
While my aggravating internet problems proved frustrating, they also proved rather enlightening. Running a speed test, I discovered that for a long time I'd been wandering around Home at dial-up speeds. While this obviously had an impact on media elements like the video buffering, I'd still been able to wander around and converse with a large crowd of people, all moving about in real time and doing robot dances, without any lag or stuttering. Okay, so it's not exactly Call of Duty 4, but it's a good illustration of how accessible the service can be.

I'll admit, I was far from convinced about Home. I've never felt the compulsion to have a Second Life, I routinely ignore my withering Facebook and MySpace accounts and I'm quite happy to manage my online gaming friends as names on a list. But after exploring Home for the best part of a day, I'm starting to see the appeal. Sony needs to work out exactly what features like Home Theatre and Game Space are actually going to offer in the long term, and much will depend on how much customisation you get in the initial download, but I can definitely see how this service could become incredibly addictive to those with lots of online PS3 contacts. Hanging out in a personalised room, launching multiplayer games through the PSP and then coming back for some post-match banter? Home certainly won't be for everyone, but for those who value such features, it might just be indispensable.
PlayStation Home is due to launch in open beta form on PS3 this autumn.
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lol. Although Dan seems to have quite enjoyed the experience.
I can see this being excellent for the HDD based PSN games, a bunch of people gathering together with a "lets play Warhawk!" or "lets play Fat Princess!" and just kicking into it.
I'm a sucker for collecting houses in GTA games :s so will probably spend more on a virtual house than my actual one.
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/ dreams of days when video games are what mattered
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It's polished features like this which make the delays all worthwhile, truly, this is what the PS3 audience have been crying out for.
Sorry, but the amount of poo that gets flung around against the 360 and Wii, and this is the thing PS3 owners have been touting as the second coming? Geez.
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"Hanging out in a personalised room, launching multiplayer games...and then coming back for some post-match banter?"
I still don't get why you need a virual arena to do this. You can do it all already on Live/PSN. Seems all rather pointless to me.
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I kind of imagine Sony can do both.
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But...
""I'm just so glad Sony is spending its game development budget on this instead of on building up a library of killer exclusives. I'm really bored of turning on my PS3 and playing games, I want to spend my time walking around a virtual world watching poor quality game trailers instead."
I kind of imagine Sony can do both. "
Can they (a game anounced at PS3 launch!) ?:
"There is a specific technical problem with WipEout that we have to solve. I can't go into details but it is a really, really tricky technical problem that no region has been able to solve at the moment," Sony Europe boss David Reeves told us when we hassled him about the game's progress this week at LA."
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If they start charging lots of micropayments for stuff, that will completely kill it imho. There's no way I'd actually pay money for a new bit of wallpaper for a virtual flat. Premium content for the sad and lonely people who like that sort of thing, yeah, fine, but if they make the default, free setup too rudimentary, it'll get boring far quicker than the sceptic that I am already fears.
I hesitate to suggest advertisement-based funding, but really I can't see any other way of making this work.
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I have a feeling this will be like myspace/facebook/second life, if social networking is your thing this will be great. And the fact that you have an avatar will be the awesome.
For everyone else, I think they wil play with it a bit and then get bored and not use unless for a special occasion.
I just dont see anything that will hold onto me and keep me coming back regularly. Trailers are nice but nothing new. What about full movies? What if your friend has a new movie and you all go his 'home' and watch it?
The fact that it is free is nice and I cant criticise until I used it. So wait and see
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So, whilst I imagine it'll be fun, I agree with Killerbee that if I had it, I'd probably hardly use it. Although I don't actually have a PS3 anyway, so I guess I won't ever use it regardless!
Although I must admit, this preview was rather more positive than I imagined. Fair play to Sony for trying something new, but like I say, it seems a bit... random.
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will it sell systems? no idea, I suppose it depends on whether or not Sony advertise it well... probably in an apple style with "we have invested mp3 players"/"we have invented the internet on the phone" with a "why have you not bought this already you technology retarded spack" feel of scorn to the adverts.
I love apple advertising.
So yeah, anyway, I like it, have from day 1 announcement. Just a shame I have no games to play on my ps3 outside my physical stack of 10 games, and the ones on my hard drive. Hopefully some will come out some day.
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/bragging mode on/
well... I have 70 (seven-zero) 360 games.
/bagging mode off/
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I agree with you on this one now. It was never going to be my thing but thought there was some merit in it for others. It has taken too much time/resource and doesn't even look that great / fun. All of the possible good bits MS has in the new dashboard update in a simpler and better looking way (Party system & Avatars). The Home avatar stuff looks stuffy and awkward in comparison.
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but still... I reckon I'll give it a pass. All I want is to be able to listen to MY OWN music while playing my 2 games!!! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK SONY!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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omg...! how do you know?
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At least it's optional and they haven't plastered casual crap and avatars over the dashboard, unlike a certain someone.........
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The fact all the multimedia features are missing is a bit worrying as well. Whats the point?
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On a commercial basis, it would interesting to include renders based on real tourism destinations in Home in order to get people to visit them. For example you could visit a version of a room in the Science museum or part of an art gallery. The implication is that if you like it you might want to visit the real thing.
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So after all the fuss you PS3 fanboys have been making about this it turns out to be a fucking shit rip-off of the Sims! Oh. My. God. Sony, you are so far stuck up your big fat arse it makes me sick to think I've actually paid you money for stuff.
Don't mean to be angry but I was expecting something good and you've given me this steaming pile. Just hurry the fuck up and get LBP published you cocks.
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Other worry is that after all the delays the content has remained the same, a cinema, bowling, pool and some half arsed arcade machines? These were all "in use" in the first screen shots ages ago.
Heres hoping to a huge news blackout on something to wow us with.
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For example, press conferences in game - why not just use a live video feed? Going to the cinema to watch trailers - why not just go to apple.com/trailers? Virtual chat rooms - instead of a linear list of messages I now have to look at everyone standing near me to figure out what's going on?
IMHO Sony would be better off streamlining the XMB interface and implementing features like cross-game voice chat before they bother with Home.
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For instance, an Indiana Jones game may unlock a whip or a hat or even an entire Indiana Jones outfit etc. that's a bit more interesting than hiring piss easy kids games to make your Gamerscore higher. Soul Calibur swords adorning the wall of your Playstation Home, Disgaea 3 character portraits on your wall. It's generally quite pointless but potentially fun if there are obscure unlockables to find which personalise your space.
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Well well well, you are on Eurogamers again oh and look you are moaning about the ps3 again.
Quit Whining!
Seriously though it's only a preview and it could still go either way.
All I know is that it does take off I shall expect xbox to create their own version of this soon after.
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18-Jul-08 12:49:47
Why are 90% of the people commenting in here confirmed XBOX owners who dont have a PS3?
I'm not a home fan and never will be and it's the same reason I hate The Sims. Would you like my PSN username?
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@Cappy - Just because the game is easy doesn't make the achievments easy, I believe LEGO Star Wars was fairly hard to get a good gamerscore on.
And games on the 360 already unlock user content, so that's nothing new.
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What are you trying to say Zander?
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that would be fun, ms would be done in 8 months
this could be good, but at the core it still should be all about the games. i miss that part. that's why i think this will fail.
if sony manages to put the gaming central in home it could be nice.
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Well if they made the PS3 good I wouldn't have to moan about it.
I really can't see what they can make of this that will actually be good. I hope I can still use the normal dashboard.
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Just as well there were actual exclusives at Sony's event then, rather than "Mii too" bull.
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Yeah, after all they are GAMES consoles. Gaming should be the focal point, but as this website shows people are not just passionate about playing them. People love to talk (and bitch) about them too. Maybe this will be another medium for that.
@Bobsuncle
Yeah maybe they need some new (better) programmers over at sony to sort that out, but come on, i know you bum your xbox!
Personally I can't wait to buy my virtual sofa... Or I could go and play CoD4.
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Er... GoW2? Halo Wars?
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Anyway, I would rather have this than some desperate crap Mii knockoff any day of the week. Robot dances sound fun. It'd be good if it had guns though.
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2 games? Impressive.
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Gives new meaning to Red Ring of Death.
Anyway, I've been playing MGS lately, not switched my 360 on for ages apart from to try and get the media center working. I'll be downloading Elephunk tonight too.
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Isn't there a problem that the vast majority of gamers are not cool in the slightest? (sorry, guys, but we're not). You can't pull off the trick of hiring Designers' Republic and putting Wipeout pods in nightclubs again, that crowd has games machines already. And besides, wipeout was a game.
It's not as if the legions of under-12-and-over-40 new Wii owners are lifestyle conscious loft-dwellers, or even desire to be.
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So what did Sony have that was so good then?
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PS2 games......
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LBP, Resistnace 2, Killzone 2, MAG, GOW3, Infamous and Ratchet&Clank(not my thing). Also Home. Plus probably others I have forgotten.
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As opposed the witless "games will sell consoles" remark...
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/lights touchpaper
/retires to safe distance =D
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Probably but the key word here being 'soon', not fucking 18 months later ...
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PS Eye hooked up, lounging in one of my mate's virtual apartment and just chatting away. But with a much bigger feeling of actually BEING in the same room.
I'm guessing your friends friends will become your friends much faster with Home, which is a good thing. Social gaming is what it's all about. Throw in some cool online arcadegames, and few PS3 users will want to miss this.
All you MS fanboys trying to bash this into the ground, I got one thing to say to you:
I really hope MS does something similar in the future, 'cause stuff like this seems like a blessing for every gamer.
And that goes for you Nintendo peeps as well.
Peace out.
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Err.. Rash now you are being a bit of a Troll.
MS had plenty of exclusives for 360 and XBLA.. You seem to filter out everything except the avatars and FF13. Don't make me list them. The best thing is that these games will almost all be out in 2008.
Anyway.. back to home. TBH maybe the "collecting and modifying your room" will work. But events? Sorry... I prefer to just open my browser and go to a streaming site for that. Some things in Home will work, some will not. I guess if Sony manages to provide stuff to do, a reasonable amount of people will "play" it.
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I like! That was actually pretty much my impression as well
Mind you the other two were just as bad.....
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As has been proved by this preview, Home is shit. Resistance and Killzone are both overshadowed by GoW2. I'm sure there were more from the 360 camp too, but like you I can't remember.
God of War 3 might be good, LBP was one of the three reasons I bought my PS3 (+ MGS + BluRay). R&C, meh.
Thing is, Sony can do it right when they want to, but when they don't you shouldn't make excuses and point fingers at MS and Nintendo saying "But, but, but..".
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Are you including me in the Playstation haters group? Because I fucking hate mine sometimes. Nah, that's a lie, the PS is ok just the service Sony give along with it is shit. By service I mean PSN, PS Store, shitty games and soon Home.
I'm glad I pay £40 per year for Live, you really do get what you pay for.
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just read the UK resistance thing. nice.
still. don't get the banner of the site. It says : Spiel Macht Frei (obviously one might think it's derived from "Arbeit Macht Frei", the infamous slogan of a concentration camp in Germany). however I would have opted for: Spielen Macht Frei.
makes more sense to me
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And yes, I do look like that much of a cunt.
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you shouldn't make excuses and point fingers at MS and Nintendo saying "But, but, but..".
Where did I make an excuse!?
I got to put Home through its paces under extremely testing circumstances and the result was...impressive.
Yes, I can see where you got that this article thinks home is shit from.
both overshadowed by GoW2.
purely subjective, if I say Killzone 2 overshadows GOW2 does that make it so?
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Ill be interested in how Sony uses Home in the future with future developments.
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Cast your mind back to Killzone, now tell me you actually think Killzone 2 will be better than GoW2. Killzone scored 1 higher than Haze on this site. Did you like Haze too?
You are right, it's all subjective. But from the looks and sounds of it, Home would appear to be a Sims clone with all the gameplay and fun taken out.
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He points out the good and bad, like any good reviewer, then goes on to leave an overall impression. Which is that he is 'very impressed'. Or do I need to put my xbox specs on and read it again?
Never played Killzone so I can't comment, the general impression of its sequel is however very good on numerous sites. We will have to wait and see if it is better than GOW2. GOW absolutely rocked by the way (as did Bioshock), I cant believe neither of them didnt sell more than average game-on-ified, Halo 3 (what a limitless advertising budget will do I suppose).
Haze was not great, distinctly average in fact. Drop in 4 player co-op being its only redeeming feature.
Home being like Sims isn't really an insult, Sims is one of the best selling games of all time. Over 100 million I think by last count. Add into that social networking, ability to strategise with your clan in a sandbox, watch films together (virtually) and Sony looks like it is on to a winner.
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Just to answer earlier post re why 90 percent of comments from the 'outsiders'!
Home does have it potential and can see that it can work well but cant see myself arsed wading round the scenery before launching a game or movies! That is a long way to go about to get to the gaming meats to satisfy my cravings! Instead the real purpose/use would be more as a community thing, where you can hang out and mess around with your avatar/room and play a casual group games.
I can certainly see me launching games such as Buzz via Home to play off against people, but not too sure about MGO, Killzone 2 or Resistance 2 as would already have their own effective lobbies!
Yet to see how after a period of novelty have worn off, what PS3 owners will be using Home mostly for, I cannot see this edging out the more practical and ease of using PSN and XMB. Still I am not much of a Animal Crossing/Sim player and these games sell very well and thus would certainly appeal more to that sort of audience?
Can certainly suprise me and become an essential feature and a system seller, and leaving me isolated as an ignored and distated wino lying on the bench in middle of the plaza at Home!
/Mmm ponders if Sony would allow me to become a Wino in Home and harrass ladies for a peek?!
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mmm..let's see, it's obviously costing Sony a fortune and one can still play online and game without it, which we do anyway. So it's obviously going to be an OPTIONAL download. And you all think this HOME download that's cost millions to develop will be handed out free?
And don't say 'Sony says it's free, so it's free'. Sony is a serial promise-breaker and isnt going to roll this out without some immediate cash coming back. And fast.
Sony, Like MS, make a loss on the hardware, and recoup on the software. Why on heaven and earth does everyone assume HOME will be free???? Like Xbox Live is??
I reckon £19.99 a year subscription - minimum.
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Its going to be paid for by people buying things for their virtual space (why anyone would do this is beyond me, but they do) also by un-obtrusive advertisements. Like a company logo on a poster or a wall etc.
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interesting that you never even thought of adverts/microtransactions before accusing the rest of the world of being dunces...
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To think that Home was one of the things which made me consider a PS3 in the first place, and yet it's hardly moved on at all. After MS' unveiling of the dash revamp (I FUCKING HATE THOSE AVATARS) a lot of the features will provide some of the 'upgrades' Home vaunted over a year ago, and what's more, probably arrive sooner too.
Avatars are gimmicks but Home just takes that concept up to 11.
DO NOT WANT (apart from the virtual apartment, that'll be a bit of fun)
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Now, back to disagreeing with mcbi4kh2
When I compared it to the sims, I did say it was like the sims with all the fun taken out, so not really a great thing to be compared to.
And I don't get what you mean by watching a movie together, you all meet up in a virtual cinema and watch some little screen on your TV? Or it goes fullscreen but you can talk to your mates? So you have to sit with a headset on so people can interrupt the movie with chit-chat. That sounds rubbish! I don't see how it'll offer any more to your clan than a in-game lobby either.
Being a wino on the park bench sounds fun though, can you throw up on cue?
And back to agreeing..
Yes GoW and Bioshock was better than the distinctly average Halo3, if ever there was a EG score I disagree with more it was that one. I'm currently finding MGS4 so much better than the coma inducing Halo3. But that's fuel for another fire...
Anyway, looks like you want Home and I can't see any merits in it whatsoever, we'll just have to wait and see I suppose, maybe Sony will surprise me....
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I remember reading that a while ago somewhere, hopefully it will still happen. I have a long distance relationship so it would be nice to watch something like that 'together'.
To be honest Sims bores the shit out of me aswell, the only features I want from this are the afformentioned video feature, facebook integration(which hopefully will happen) and the clan meetings in Warhawk (there is a scale model of the map on a table and you can move things around to tell your clan where to go etc).
Read this http://ko taku.com/361562/how-warhawk-mak... offers far, far more than a lobby.
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ohhhhh i forgotl you MIGHT like home if your a total fag and like to play dress-up.....
Gears of war 2 GOTY ftw.
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Oh well...
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well done sir (unless your a fag haha)
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@JSPOOLE
....cause they spend their money too, you idiot!
Every dollar/euro adds up.
No, I haven't done it yet, SeesThroughAll
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(1) Face the nearest brick wall.
(2) Back up around, oh, fifty metres.
(3) Put head down.
(4) Sprint.
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GEORS OF WAR 2 GOTY 2008
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Do they have pirate memory games as well??
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My ignore list is empty, as I am always up for a debate, or at the very least a shit slinging match, and while I cannot argue with your Sony facts (and they damn well are facts), I'd rather have the morons and n00bs and gamer pricks have the options available to them to flood the Sony and Nintendo spaces rather than the space I'm on. Choice is after all the cornerstone of freedom, and the fact that MS are constantly fighting the empty promises of Sony's vapourware has forced them into creating the best hardcore gamers machine with the right software to match. if Sony hadn't bullshitted all the time, our system of choice may well have taken the easy lazy approach and coasted by on the bare minimum.
So really Microsoft should be thanking Sony for the approach they took, for forcing them to step up their game. I mean as opposed to Home, not only are MS bringing us some decent games, but they are coming out this year. i know which i'd rather have.
what we should really be worried about is this casual gamer crowd, as MS sets its sights on getting Nintendo's fanbase, of essentially non gamers. that could be disastrous if they forget about their core fanbase in favour of the grandma's and kiddywinks and the kinds of vapid morons that love to spend micro transactions on trinkets for useless avatars.
that and the ever present RROD of course.
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Seriously, if we were all the same then there would be only one console.
For people that own a PS3 like myself, it's all about personal choice, and i dont really see how you have the right to accuse people on if they have made a good or bad decision.
Each to their own at the end of the day.
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dude i see you're point, and it is a valid one.
BUT i own a 360, a friend of mine ownes a PS3 and i do see value there.
the hardware...
i don't meen bloatwhere cell, no build quality is the deal breaker for most of my friends buying into ps3
the machine is silent, does not have disc read error's has a blue ray player, and is sexy looking.
this is where ms has done wrong. re-design the f*cking box and make it a quality peace of hardware.
the games are great though. i love the xbox games, and they do need to make live free. then.... ps3 fans would really be out of arguments.
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man read the vs articles, why would you ever buy the ps3 version of any multi format game....
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He loves the PS3!
He goes in each thread,
That he can see!
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but if you already own a battery recharger and rechargeble batterys and don't need wireless .....
but you have a valid point. online multiplayer should be free.
but you could also say, you would have to re-buy you're ps3 controllers for rumble. so please add euro 59 for ps3 ;p
we can continue this debate all day, but it will be pointless, so if you're happy with you're ps3, i'm happy for you
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you use exactly the arguments my friends buying ps3 use.(and the ones i mentioned earlyer) 360 build quality. they are all valid arguments and if they apply for you, you've made the right choice.
i don't need wireless and the xbox is back in a cabinet under the telly, so for me i'm happy to.
i'm off doing the dishes
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I too am a former Sony acolyte, back in the days when they actually provided the best entertainment around, PSone and PS2 , but after my thumb wanted to fall off from cramp on the badly designed awkwardly positioned and wrong sided thumb stick slide switch thingy on the PSP, and looking at the sorry games catalogue i started to sense something was off within the company. cut a long story short, i did my research, looked everywhere i could on the internet and saw a big shakeup coming what with the delays, the promises, the CGI fake trailers being sold as in game and the exorbitant price. needless to say the actual results of the 360 converted me, and i felt the need to explain to my fellow gamers how i came to that position, lest they all fall for the lies, and the real gamers machine falls to the hype.
I was at a stage where i was vehemently defending the console of my choice, as you are now, but honestly mate, you are either preaching to the converted 360 masses, or hitting your head against a brick wall of the blind sony fanboys. you cant expect something as trivial as the 'truth' or 'facts' to turn the lemming faithful away from the edge.
Besides, MS are big enough and ugly enough to throw money at the system no matter what the whole planet thinks of it, and its not the early days where it could have gone either way, enough people have woken up to see the state of the industry for what it is, who is all talk, and who is making shit happen. MS are not going anywhere now, so we can sit back, relax and play games, laughing at the desperate fanbois who desperately try to bend the truth to fit their blinkered little reality tunnels.
Basically mate, you should relax. after looking at this years E3, i really can't see Sony being that big of a threat anymore, which is reflected in MS press conference. They obviously have their sights set on Ninty now, which is a whole other ball game.
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This topic is about Sony Home, not how crap you think the PS3 is... I love my PS3 and have no problems with people buying an Xbox... get over it, they are just stupid consoles.
As for home, Im not convinced it will be something that I want to use, Im not a big fan of online games, I mean I love Grid and that is easy enough to play online, why would i need an additional 200MB install and a large world to walk around in... but still Im sure some people will love it and it might pull in some other users.
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thank god for the xbox and all the great GAMES on it
to put it bluntly: fuck all the sony fangirls and other faggots who support sony (or any other jap company for that matter..)
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go eat shit you anime faggot
you ps3 fangirls really piss me off and for good reason, YOU ARE RUINING GAMING by supporting a shitty deceitfull asian company like sony, so go away and DIE
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Gran Turismo 5 is dated for 2010!!!! whipout has just been delayed AGAIN!
only the pay for demo for GT5 is available.... so please shut the... up.
i'm not a fanboy and usually don't get into this kind of stupid rants.
but you just keep on repeating yourself with the same bullshit arguments.
so this is my last offtopic post.
sorry all readers actually wanting to read about home.. i do appologise.
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No, i didn't imply MS were trustworthy, they are a huge multi national corporation and would like to set fire to babies and rape grannies if they could make an extra dollar just like any other multi national corporation, Sony included, or Sony especially depends on which side of the fence you are on.
You put words in my mouth in order to make a counter argument, because what you have to argue and make valid points with is so very sparse. bringing out the Vista guns just reeks of desperation, and i can't honestly comment on that, as i use an aged pc with XP and firefox in order to browse the web, and thats about it. I'm all about the GAMES, see, and that i can proffer up an honest opinion on (and would also be why i don't own a PS3 yet. i say yet, cause i never say never). oh and you do realise that MS were forced into different divisions, like a multi headed hydra, because of some monopoly laws right? the people that run the gaming section have little to do with the other stuff and vice versa.
I mentioned the RROD as one of the only things MS fans have to fear, and i acknowledge it as i have suffered 4 personally myself. its a big issue when i don't have an xbox to play on, but its out of sight out of mind when its working. I came up with a workaround for it however, unique only to myself. it was to collectively purchase 3 more 360's in order to play online matches with housemates, all in one room with regular LAN nights, in a sort of house clan. there has never been a stage where more than 2 have been broken at one time, thus i no longer have to worry about going without my fix. not an ideal solution, but its not an ideal world. go figure.
however, unlike Sony, MS may well be slow to act, but ultimately they did act. 3 year warranty, with money back to all those who had to pay in the first place, providing they kept receipts of course. its not an ideal solution to the problem, but we don't live in the aforementioned ideal world, and short of a fucking time machine to go back and fix it before it happened, I'm not sure how anyone would deal with it otherwise. if you recall every single xbox for a few months or longer, it looks terrible in the media, and on the internet, some people who won the RROD lottery and got a stable machine that didn't break, would voice their disapproval most loudly on every forum and message board the world over. still it would have been better than the solutions sony choose with the disc read error on the ps2, or every time an update bricks a console, or a game doesn't work when it should, or a small company demands payment for their vibration pad technology, or if a PSP screen has dead lines, which is to sweep it under the carpet.
and i would pass you the puke bucket, were it not already in use by you, being worn as a relatively attractive, if smelly hat.
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360 = the most games, higher scoring games in every genre and better third party games
ps3 = none of the above
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The 360 could be dumbed-down more than it already is???
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Difference being O wise one, all my house mates agreed that a house clan would be an excellent idea for games like battlefield etc, taking the social level to new heights within the house, giving a whole new dimension again to the games we were playing (4D gaming mayhap?) and from the basis of showing them game quality on one xbox, they decided to purchase their own machines. admittedly it was a hard sell at first with ums and ahhs, but the fact that we would never own four PS3's, let alone one of them, speaks volumes to the game selection and quality doesn't it?
and i have always been about the games you Sony Semen receptacle, you have always tried to put words into my mouth, cause Sony's sticking something else in yours.
and if you happened to be a millionaire i could easily see you spending you fortune on some magic beans, so long as they had SONY on the side eh?
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i can't believe i share a hobby with you people.
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JSPOOLE
I have a PS3, does that make me a "cockmuncher"?
Sad pathetic hate filled homophobe, probably due to his mother not hugging him enough and little latent homosexuality. Who actually cares WHAT you think or remembers when Eurogamer forums were free from this fanboi crap.
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So SONY i want more games not your no-life magnet crap.
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/Highfives
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sony MS or ninty fanboy, a thousand times this.
Leave this sort of stuff to the PC, where that sort of thing is accepted.
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"psyche"
No defense of the latent homosexuality then? You are an angry boy aren't you?
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It might just be me, but personally I wouldn't buy a £300 console without finding out if I would use it much beforehand...