PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted Preview

By Simon Parkin Published 3 August, 2007

The PS3 comes of age?

Of all PlayStation 3's forthcoming releases, the most interesting and significant is neither a game nor for sale. Home, Sony's more structured, sanitised and solid attempt at a Second Life world might seem innocuous enough but with the screenshots of its cinema space and the implied possibility of fully downloadable movies, there's the chance it might eventually outgrow even its host platform in significance.

Of course, 360 is kind of there already. With game demos on Microsoft's console oftentimes upwards of 1GB in download size, the first dual high street and virtual major game release is surely only just around the corner. But Home, with its customisable avatars, apartments and achievements looks to be providing a more personal and tactile way to access the future than Microsoft's colourful but dry menus. Whether the platform can grow and develop in kilter with Sony's aspirations remains to be seen but, come launch in October, it might prove to be a secret weapon of unexpected magnitude.

Anyway, there's a lot more than just a new social networking world to look forward to in PlayStation 3's run-up to Christmas - and not all of it is 360's sloppy seconds. Here Eurogamer performs that thankless task of looking over the games that stand to deliver the best experiences of the latter portion of the year. Of course, until we actually sit down with each game's final build it's all consumer frottage and speculation but at least you'll know what to put on your Christmas list.

(Note: here is our Most Wanted list for 360 titles - you'll notice several of the games on that list are also present here, so we've tried to give more weight to titles that are either PS3 exclusives or weren't mentioned in the 360 list. Several appear on both lists - by necessity, as they're simply too good to ignore.)

Call of Duty IV: Modern Warfare

"There are too many videogames set in World War II," cried the masses, and, in response, Infinity Ward has set its sights upon the contemporary war-game instead. Much of what has defined the previous titles in the series appears to have been dropped here. A cinematic plot will thread together the lives of numerous soldiers playing various roles for different countries.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot cod4

One minute you'll be the pilot of a Cobra helicopter offering air support to ground troops, while the next you'll be pairing up with a sniper as a marksmen unit. Such disparate experiences (albeit united under the wide theme of 'Modern Warfare') could mean the game lacks focus and mastery in its tackling of all war trades. Nevertheless, it's rare for a developer to respond to consumer cries for something different, especially when it means shifting the direction of a hugely successful IP, and for that its bravery is to be applauded.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune

Despite the historical overtones (protagonist Nathan Drake is supposedly a descendant of the famous namesake explorer) the undertones are decidedly low culture. Drake's plot synopsis has something of the Lost about it: a group of companions stranded on a remote island while being hunted by mysterious mercenaries.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot drake

Even so, the game's pedigree is solid, developer Naughty Dog being the hands behind Crash Bandicoot and Jak and Daxter. With an overarching mission to discover the fabled treasure of El Dorado, this is looking like one of the PS3's most intriguing new IPs.

The developer is promising clues, puzzles and danger, a combination that has served Lara Croft well in similar climes. Whether Drake can command its influences rather than be driven by them remains to be seen. But doing so will be the key to delivering a fresh, new and distinct game with its own soul.

Rock Band

The videos 'leaked' onto the Internet earlier this summer allayed what slim fears gamers might have had that publisher EA's Midas touch might have drained Harmonix of its rhythm and style. The sight of four players, cramped into a rehearsal room, singing, plucking and drumming their way through Guns n' Roses' Welcome to the Jungle in glorious harmony was enough to prove Guitar Hero's natural evolution is near complete.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot rock

With so much GUI splayed over the screen much of the cod-rock style of the Guitar Hero series is diminished - a good thing for those tired of that wearying parody. Big free-for-all outro sections allow room for some much needed user creativity in an otherwise immovable rhythm action framework. The chance to form and compete in bands online seems a feature too grand to be true - especially for a genre where lag and latency spell out-of-time nightmare. But with all of these considerations in the hands of the most competent rhythm action developer currently at work, the only question mark really hangs over the final cost of the thing.

Lair

Lair was ill-served by those over-ambitious staged sky battles that promoted the game ahead of the system's launch. Gamers never look favourably upon pre-rendered footage that is passed off as being in-game and, as such, Lair suffered something of a backlash before it had even begun.

But now, in the wake of some more realistic and fun-looking videos, popular opinion seems to have swung back onto this, the latest title from Rogue Squadron's Factor 5. Playing as dragon-riding knight Rohn, Lair promises to provide gamers with the kind of fast-paced combat that delights fans of the Panzer Dragoon series, with none of the on-rails framework that put many off. As one of the few games which seems to be championing Sixaxis controls as a core aspect to the game it will be interesting to see whether Lair will silence or justify the cynicism that it met with upon its original unveiling [early US reviews suggest not - Ed].

Heavenly Sword

Heavenly Sword's lead character Nariko has long served as poster girl for the kinds of visually arresting and, crucially platform-monogamous new titles Sony wants to showcase on their system.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot sword

This high-profile take on the hack-and-slash genre has been hotly anticipated since long before the PS3's launch but, with the recent PlayStation store demo, some of that enthusiasm has been dampened. In truth, many of the criticisms are unfair. The Shenmue-style Quicktime Events integrate well with the game's cinematic leanings while the freeform combat mechanics are rich and textured.

Nevertheless, if the game positions itself as an evolution to the PS2's God of War II (something many fans have been eager to do) it might have a harder time convincing the genre faithful - 1000 characters simultaneously on screen at once or not.

Haze

That ex-Rare team members created Free Radical Design holds less sway today than it did in 1999. While the company's Timesplitters series found many staunch fans, for some its fast pace and frantic execution was a step too far from the games which earned these designers their name.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot haze

With Haze, FRD is clearly looking to re-establish the studio as being at the forefront of FPS design and innovation, with a more weighty and serious tone pinning its aspirations down.

Set over a three-day period in 2048 you're cast as Sergeant Shane Carpenter, a member of the Mantel Global Industries army fighting South America rebels.

The Nectar system, a kind of injection that imbues your character and his team members with various upgrades (at the cost of being able to distinguish friend from foe) appears to ring introduce some interesting mechanics to what initially looks like a fairly orthodox modern FPS. However the game uses a bespoke graphical engine apparently to allow for FRD's various design ideas to be implemented more smoothly and as such is of compelling interest.

Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction

The Ratchet and Clank series has always fared well in front of critics but has traditionally found a younger platforming audience. This, the sixth title under the name will be hoping to convince the older, early-adopting PS3 demographic of its worth.

That said, the plot details so far are pure Saturday morning kid's TV. The titular protagonists face an alien invasion from a species known as Cragmites. During a huge battle over the streets of Metropolis the duo manage to steal a warship in which to make a getaway and begin an adventure to find out the origins of the attack.

The game mechanics appear to focus strongly on the platforming elements that defined the earlier games eschewing much of the weapon-based combat of more recent iterations. This is accompanied by a more light-hearted approach to both gameplay (the Groovitron grenade is a glitterball weapon which immobalises enemies by playing irresistible disco music at them) and storyline.

Unreal Tournament 3

An Unreal Tournament game with a single player storyline? If that's not a surprising enough feature for a series that has traditionally sidestepped even the most fleeting brush with narrative, then the huge reduction of multiplayer modes will surely stop fans in their tracks.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot ut3

While the game, the latest title in a run-and-gun FPS series that has outlived most of its id Software rivals, does include Deathmatch, Team Deathmatch, Capture the Flag and Warfare mode, that's almost it. This more streamlined approach is intended to distil the series most successful achievements into a compelling package.

While the game is exclusive to PC and PS3 for 2007, it will launch on 360 early next year. Players concerned about how well the lightning-paced battles will play out on a Sixaxis controller have been told to rest assured that Epic's Gears of War team has been working "day and night" to get them just right ahead of launch.

GT5 Prologue

With both Project Gotham and Forza now firmly established racing brand successes for the 360, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue has a heavy burden of expectation and responsibility to bear as Sony's flagship racing title.

Numerous new features help propel the series deeper into sim territory. Speedometers and odometers as well as rear and side view mirrors are now visible from the in-car view. Reportedly, it will even be possible to turn your driver's head within the car to look around you using the d-pad.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot gt5

However, the series has, in more recent times, attracted criticism for being too dry and too sim-like to really connect with a wide console audience. Prologue looks to be addressing some of the issues by promising to integrate fully with Home (the PS3's new social networking environment) as well as providing on-line voice chat. Nevertheless, most of these features are already present in Forza 2 so GT5 Prologue really needs to provide something over and above that excellent game if it's to maintain its position at the forefront of the console racing world.

Singstar PS3

Sony Studio London's clean and inviting menus and user interface reflect the game's modern, mainstream and graphic design-savvy awareness. Indeed, the well-ordered and sleek screenshots of the Singstore put most other videogame front ends to shame.

And it's the Singstore that most clearly communicates the game's evolution from its current interminable mix-tape treadmill of PS2 releases. In addition to the 30 tracks included on the disc you'll be able to download new songs quickly and easily from myriad artists in diverse genres and styles. This propels the game into iTunes territory allowing users to construct their own game from a gigantic catalogue of musical options (350 at launch with 50 a month added thereafter).

Online high-score tables are a fantastic development for players who want to compete but prefer to sing alone while Singstar's established mechanics will provide the all-important bedrock for these ideas and inventions to build upon.

Eye of Judgment

Sony's Eyetoy camera promised so much upon release in 2003 but it has mostly failed to deliver anything important or indispensable to the gaming canon. The PlayStation Eye, Eyetoy's PS3 update is looking to break out of the passable mini-game monotony that plagued its forbear with the Eye of Judgement.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot eye

The game comes bundled with a tablemat upon which players place and move cards to carry out their moves on screen. By holding cards up to the camera health points, attack points, special abilities and effects can all be checked and the game will ship with a starter pack of 30 cards.

This style if gaming has recently become wildly popular in Japanese arcades but this will be the first time it's been used in a console game. The game's producers have said that they spent a full two years working on the game mechanics and Eye technology before they started on implementing the graphics. With that in mind, one can only hope that such a hefty investment of time and energy ensures the game is more than just a cute curio with a neat gimmick.

Half Life Episode 2

The game opens with idiosyncratic geek protagonist Gordon riding the very same train carriage that took him and Alyx off into the end credits of Episode 1. This feeling of continuity and uninterrupted narrative defines Half Life Episode 2, the second game in a trilogy of episodic releases now spread across PC, PlayStation 3 and 360.

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Boasting a new 'cinematic physics system' which presumably improves on the astounding physics system which saw items bouncing and flying around so gracefully in its predecessor, Episode 2 promises to build an as yet unrivalled suspension of disbelief in players' minds. New enemies, such as the tripod walking 'Hunter' can be defeated with new weaponry and Valve is promising more emphasis on the puzzles which were so scarce in Episode 1. As a counterpoint to Halo, the Half-Life games offer a different weight and flavour of First Person Shooter but one which is no less enthralling in style or substance.

LEGO Batman

  • Release Date: TBA

In all likelihood, of all the games on this list Lego Batman is the least likely to make it out this year. But that won't stop us from slipping it in here in the hope that kind of announcing it might make arive sooner. In their approach to the Lego Star Wars franchise, Traveller's Tales demonstrated that, with time and freedom, they could make an astonishingly robust, appealing and successful movie-tie-in videogame.

The move to Gotham seems perfectly natural, with the Batman mythology providing just as many opportunities for the developer to take the gameplay in the creative and compelling ways that so characterise the Lego Star Wars games. Brilliantly, for a hands-on preview of the characters, vehicles and environments to expect you need only pop into your local Lego store.

Assassin's Creed

Despite flutters of concern following Ubisoft's clunky demonstration at E3 earlier this month, fears that this was all Unkle-soundtracked style over substance were dampened once we spent some time playing Assassin's Creed ourselves. For a setting Ubisoft Montreal has settled upon the cities of Jerusalem, Acre and Damascus at the time of the Third Crusade. You play as Altaïr, a member of the Hashshashin sect who is working towards eliminating the nine western figures driving the crusades.

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As well as introducing some new game-speak in the form of 'social stealth' (a.k.a. walking around in crowds) the game is also championing a context sensitive control scheme. Here buttons generally map to the character's limbs and perform actions appropriate to situation and environment at any given time. While the game's themes and setting might seem a little incendiary right now, numerous clues as to a possible heavy science-fiction reveal as well as the fact Altair is, conveniently enough the son of a Christian mother and a Muslim father might seek to take any sting out of this tale.

Sega Rally

Ostensibly this is a long way from Tetsuya Mizuguchi's original 1995 white-knuckle arcade rally game with which it shares a name. Developed in Solihull under the watchful eye of a man named Guy (Wilday - Director of SEGA Racing Studio) the circumstances surrounding its development hardly echo those of its neon-blinking, tub-thumping Japanese ancestor. But while the game is aimed at a western audience for whom the realism and range of automotive geekery in the likes of Forza and Gran Turismo is key, Sega Rally has a lot more in common with Sega Rally than you might expect.

'PlayStation 3: 2007's Most Wanted' Screenshot rally

The emphasis is again on accessibility and fun, that combination of Sega blue skies, streaking snow capped hills and fifty metre gravelly powerslides. For gamers concerned that this will just be a paper thin, five minute arcade-a-thon there will be thirty vehicles, 6-player competitive racing online (possible between 360 and Vista players) and, more importantly, the kind of accessible but deep racing that made the original so very inspirational.

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  • Uncle_Fishboy #1 5 years ago

    dog poo

  • Tonka #2 5 years ago

    Uncharted looks like a bundle of joy.

  • SomaticSense #3 5 years ago

    Reminds me of one of the main reasons why I haven't bought a PS3......

  • drumbaby #4 5 years ago

    Very good line up....just a little too long to wait for most of it still.

  • teabagger #5 5 years ago

    Not looking too shabby at all I reckon.

    (edit)
    What, a console that's been out for much longer has a longer list of forthcoming titles? I'd never have believed it!
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 13:32

  • mattigan #6 5 years ago

    With the exception of Haze, they all seem a bit, "not very good" to me.

  • ecureuil #7 5 years ago

    That's quite an impressive lineup for the PS3, definitely not bad at all. It looks like it's finally found its stride.

  • caligari #8 5 years ago

    Good stuff. More reasons to buy a PS3 than a 360, me thinks.

    /runs for cover

  • speedjack #9 5 years ago

    Looks okay(ish) - but will it make me fork out for one ?

    Sadly, no.



  • Les #10 5 years ago

    "As one of the few games which seems to be championing Sixaxis controls as a core aspect to the game it will be interesting to see whether Lair will silence or justify the cynicism that it met with upon its original unveiling [early US reviews suggest not - Ed]."

    I'd rather you lot formed your own opinions after playing the game...

  • thedaveeyres #11 5 years ago

    Zzzzzzzzz

  • Darren #12 5 years ago

    PS3's most wanted...?

    Some games would be nice? ;)

  • Xerx3s #13 5 years ago

    So where are all those people storming in to point out that a lot of them aren't exclusives?

    huh? HUH?!


    ...


    oh.

    /builds bridge
    /crawls under it

  • drunkymonkey #14 5 years ago

    I don't see 90 percent being a "not" anyway.

    [link url=ht tp://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/lair
    ]http://ww w.metacritic.com/games/platform...[/link]

  • Gurgeh #15 5 years ago

    Your view of Lair will depend upon how well you adapt to the Sixaxis controls

  • DUFFKING #16 5 years ago

    Looks nice, some good exclusives, some multiplatforms but I don't really see the problem. I'll stick with my 360 for now, but should the PS3 go down in price significantly enough to justify owning 2 consoles I'll be buying one just for heavenly sword.

  • menage #17 5 years ago

    For a console which had nothing to show expcept Lair and HS I think this is pretty good.

    But Singstar, GT Prologue Batman and rally are stretching it a little.

    Who the hell is going to buy Eye of... ?

    HS looks great, butr if I had a PS3 I would buy R&C. I enjoyed previous titles immensly (excpet for the last one)

  • RedPanda #18 5 years ago

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  • Darren #19 5 years ago

    With every other PS3 game seemingly slipping for some reason or other, I wonder how many of those games will actually be released this side of 2007?

  • lambtron #20 5 years ago

    Lair and Haze.

  • lennon #21 5 years ago

    Oh! So depending on the final outcome of HS and Lair the only game I will definatley be getting is Ratchett and Clank.

  • Markusdragon #22 5 years ago

    Looks good. The pictures line up nicely and the overall article is aesthetically pleasing.


    Pity about the PS3 lineup.

  • steoc4 #23 5 years ago

    They forgot to mention the big downloadable games like Warhawk, SOCOM, Everyday Shooter, Pain and Echochrome. Although I'm not sure any of those have confirmed release dates, I'm hoping we see them all this year.

    Very strong list though. Everything on it except Eye of Judgement and Singstar is a possible buy for me, most of them probables.

    Plus there's all the mainstay games like Pro Evo and Burnout coming too that I hope will show a genuine step forward for next gen. It's going to be an expensive few months!

  • SomaticSense #24 5 years ago

    "What, a console that's been out for much longer has a longer list of forthcoming titles? I'd never have believed it!"

    And the 360's 'upcoming' list this time last year was fuck loads better as well (well, if you liked shooters....).

    edit: Plus at that time, there were also a lot more decent games already out.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 13:52

  • krudster #25 5 years ago

    Burnout is 2008.

    Good call on the downloadable stuff, but that's probably a feature unto itself.

  • Monkey_Puncher #26 5 years ago

    Uncharted looked pretty decent at E3. Strangely though the developer had the nerve to suggest that other than the main character being a treasure hunter, there were no other simularities to Tomb Raider....

  • Santino #27 5 years ago

    Have you really punched a monkey before?!!!

  • menage #28 5 years ago

    "
    And the 360's 'upcoming' list this time last year was fuck loads better as well (well, if you liked shooters....).
    "

    No it didn't.

  • Darren #29 5 years ago

    One thing multiple platform owners should consider when deciding whether to buy the Xbox 360 or PS3 version is how much power the machines use. The Xbox 360 uses around 160W compared with the PS3's 280W so if you don't want uber-large electric bills it really does pay to go for the Xbox 360 version. My electric usage has gone up by over 15% since owning the PS3 and there aren't even that many decent games out for it yet. Lord help me when Final Fantasy XIII or White Knight Story are released, I'll have to take out a second mortgage or something! LOL

    P.S. I'm being serious by the way!

  • richardiox #30 5 years ago

    These "Most Wanted" lists per platform only really work with exclusives. Games like Lego Batman and Call Of Duty 4 will be out on the 360 and as such for people who havent yet invested in a next gen console can be played for £200 less than the PS3 version. I also think it's quite telling that a portion of the PS3 2007 most wanted list wont actually see release here in 2007 at all eg GT5.

  • glaeken #31 5 years ago

    Still poor in my view. Really only 2 games I like the look of that are exclusive which are Heavanly sword and Lair. Anything else on the list is either multi platform or meh.

  • RedPanda #32 5 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • GrandpaUlrira #33 5 years ago

    Shane Carpenter (from Haze) sounds like it's the name of a character from Neighbours. Out of those only Assassin's Creed and Gran Turismo interest me.

  • Pike #34 5 years ago

    What a dire list.

  • richardiox #35 5 years ago

    Less multi-platform games (including Haze and UT as they are multi even if not til early next year) and likely 2008 slippages we are left with;

    Lair - which has been getting mediocre reviews so far
    Heavenly Sword - demo has got mixed reactions, still an unkown quantity
    Ratchet & Clank - potentially good
    Uncharted - potentially good
    Singstar - not really a gamers game...sold thousands of PS2s but then that console is £300 cheaper than PS3.
    Eye Of Judgement - card game? again, not really a gamers title.

    And that's it. Up against the MS exclusives of Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect and PGR4

  • krudster #36 5 years ago

    Regarding electricity bills, mine have been utterly ridiculous of late. But that's partly my own stupid fault for not bothering to unplug stuff from the wall when I'm not using them.

    Think about it:
    PS3
    360
    Wii
    Xbox
    PS2
    TV box
    Wireless router
    Cable modem
    Amp
    Various chargers -phone, DS, PSP, laptop etc
    PC
    Turntable
    Media server
    Cordless phone

    Gawd knows how much wastage there is from leaving them all plugged in on standby....

  • LeD #37 5 years ago

    Come on guys, stop it. Even as die-hard Xbox 360 fan, there are at least half a dozen titles I look forward to. My personal top 5:
    -Uncharted
    -GT5 Prologue
    -Heavenly Sword
    -Haze
    -Lair
    -Eye Of Judgment (I'm an old Magic head, me)
    Depending on whether they're any good or not, obviously.
    Add to that a few cross-platform titles that I may get on 360 or PS3 depending on which is the better version.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 14:24

  • jonsaan #38 5 years ago

    What a strange article. The focus is on mainly multiformat stuff after that intro about sloppy seconds.

  • krudster #39 5 years ago

    9 PS3 exclusives on there for 2007. Hardly "mostly multiformat".

    Also, the remainder are simultaneous releases, rather than sloppy second ports, which has been the story of the PS3 to date.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 14:32

  • Les #40 5 years ago

    Like that of the 360, this line-up will definitely not halt the unstoppable progress of the Wii.

    The Console War is over, what’s left is a skirmish for second place…

  • Santino #41 5 years ago

    oh les, what in the hell were you thinking? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU HAVE JUST STARTED?

  • jonsaan #42 5 years ago

    Well lets see, EG talks about 27 games, of which 9 are PS3 exclusive (33.3%) and the rest are multi platform. I'd call that 'mostly multiformat'.

    I just found it a bit odd that the article starts off with 'and not all of them are 360 sloppy seconds' and then lists 18 games that clearly are:)

    /runs back to forums..

    Just seen Krudsters edit. Ok. You win.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 14:34

  • Les #43 5 years ago

    "Come on guys, stop it."

    That would imply the people you're addressing being capable of reasoning...

    If people feel better about themselves for supporting one console brand over the other, and want others to know how good and cool, etc. their favourite machine is and how shit the opposition, let them. Except for a lot of poorly written and logically inconsistent posts, it’ll do little damage. Who knows, if these kids couldn’t let off steam in this way, they might do something worse, like vandalise your neighbourhood…

  • MrGilder #44 5 years ago

    Your bit on SingStar has this as TBA, but its being advertised as an August 24th release in Game.. Can anyone confirm this?

  • Les #45 5 years ago

    "Also, the remainder are simultaneous releases, rather than sloppy second ports, which has been the story of the PS3 to date."

    Who got the first ports up till now then? ;)

  • Ace_McCloud #46 5 years ago

    Better than I expected... although probably not better than the 360's lineup imo, and certainly not worth the asking price of the console.

  • SeesThroughAll #47 5 years ago

    Come on guys, stop it. Even as die-hard Xbox 360 fan, there are at least half a dozen titles I look forward to. My personal top 5:
    -Uncharted
    -GT5 Prologue
    -Heavenly Sword
    -Haze
    -Lair
    -Eye Of Judgment (I'm an old Magic head, me)

    I'm gonna add you to my list just for that one. :)

  • LeD #48 5 years ago

    :)

  • krudster #49 5 years ago

    From a personal point of view, I'm certainly looking forward to Heavenly Sword, Ratchet, Drake's and Haze out of the 'exclusives'. Singstar should be ace too, and I'm always fond of a bit of UT. I'll be getting review dibs on most of those :)

    As for the multiformat stuff, admittedly I'd rather play some of them on 360 (controller preference, vibration, achievement points whoreage), but add HL2 Ep 2, Assassin's Creed, CoD IV, Rock Band, Kane & Lynch, The Club, Stranglehold, and it's not exactly a bad way to end the year for the PS3.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 14:48

  • Caimbeul #50 5 years ago

    So not much then. . .

    Uncharted & Heavenly Sword look to be about the only decent ones that are not available on 360

  • Xerx3s #51 5 years ago

    Regarding electricity bills, mine have been utterly ridiculous of late. But that's partly my own stupid fault for not bothering to unplug stuff from the wall when I'm not using them.

    My wall sockets have switches on them. One flick and about a dozen devices are no longer devouring standby powa! \0/

  • PearOfAnguish #52 5 years ago

    It's a shame the PS3 itself isn't 'most wanted'.

  • FlamingCarrot #53 5 years ago

    Crysis gets my November vote. As an old PC FPS player i still struggle a bit with the gamepads. Saying that i'll still get Halo 3 and finish the fight etc....

  • JediMasterMalik #54 5 years ago

    Nice line up, I'll be getting quite a few of those games.

  • FlamingCarrot #55 5 years ago

    I see Play has Heavenly Sword on preorder at £32.99. I've preordered it as enjoyed the brief demo. Not a bad PS3 line up but agree that HOME really has me interested. Reminded me of Snow Crash....

  • afghan_jones #56 5 years ago

    With the exception of the multiformat titles only singstar and LBP really interest me at the minute on PS3.

  • Eighthours #57 5 years ago

    Four pages for the 360, and five for the PS3? ;)

  • Azazel #58 5 years ago

    ZOMGPS360LOL!

  • krudster #59 5 years ago

    We're going to update the 360 list shortly. Wii, PC, DS and more to come.

  • BillyBrush #60 5 years ago

    How can a line up of great looking games leave me still unmoved...something's wrong Sony just get some fing screens of the next ICO

  • BillyBrush #61 5 years ago

    erm

    ICO team game, that can cut through any PS malaise surely??

  • groovychainsaw #62 5 years ago

    Why are people getting excited about that uncharted game? It just looks like a tomb raider clone to me? Genuinely, does anyone know why its exciting? Hopefully not trolling, just not seeing what some other people seem to be...

  • krudster #63 5 years ago

    It's called trust. Naughty Dog has one of the most unblemished track records around, that's why.

  • groovychainsaw #64 5 years ago

    Fair enough krudster, only watched the videos myself to get a feel for it, obviously haven't played it, but couldn't see the appeal from that (apart from more adventure platforming, which isnt bad in itself, just a little bit... bland?). Will be a review I look for with relish! ;-)

  • Triggerhappytel #65 5 years ago

    Very not bad, despite the fact there's a few games there that probably won't be out this year (Ratchet - it's only the fifth instalment, by the way, Uncharted, Sega Rally), it's a strong line-up, although 2008 should be better still.

    Maybe not quite as strong as the 360's line-up, but that's largely because of Mass Effect and Bioshock. Good stuff either way, the PS3 is finally beginning to find it's stride.

  • JYM60 #66 5 years ago

    I think Warhawk deserved a mention, but great article anyway.

    Warhawk, R&C, Haze and GT for me.

  • Les #67 5 years ago

    The more I read about Assassin's Creed, the more I'm convinced it will suck.

  • krudster #68 5 years ago

    Ratchet is the 6th instalment - you're not counting the ace PSP version that just came out.

    What games do you suspect won't make 2007? As far as our info is concerned, all will make it.

  • lambtron #69 5 years ago

    I'd be surprised if delay-o-masters Polyphony ever release a game on time.

    When is GT PSP released again?

  • Triggerhappytel #70 5 years ago

    Krudster - "Ratchet is the 6th instalment - you're not counting the ace PSP version that just came out."

    Gotcha, I did forget about that one.

  • patchbox360 #71 5 years ago

    Halo 3

  • JYM60 #72 5 years ago

    I think they should all make there dates, needless to say I will be praying (well not really) that PD get GT:5P out.

    Cannot wait for R&C, the series and Insomniac (6/10 ?!!!? ;) ) for that matter have always been awesome. Same goes for FRD.

  • Dire #73 5 years ago

    well that list was such a bundle of joy. I'm so going out to buy a PS3 now!

    I would say launch year blues, but we're coming upto it's first birthday in november.

  • Cloudane #74 5 years ago

    I must admit that I AM interested in several of the first party games such as Heavenly Sword, Lair, SingStar, Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted but it isn't quite enough to make me hand over the £425 or whatever the PS3 currently costs.

    On the other hand, the PS3 list does show some variety that is lacking in the Xbox 360 most wanted article to be fair.

  • smelly #75 5 years ago

    HANG ON!!!

    That's just the 360's line up with ratchet and clank...

    (so therefor that makes the ps3 the winner imho)

  • Les #76 5 years ago

    "On the other hand, the PS3 list does show some variety that is lacking in the Xbox 360 most wanted article to be fair."

    Because each is aimed at a different demographic.

  • Emth #77 5 years ago

    I think Warhawk definitely deserves a mention in this list. And yes it's exclusive (because that really matters apparently).

  • TRUTH #78 5 years ago

    10 of the 15 are also coming to the 360. There doesn't seem a exclusive to compete with: Halo 3, Fable 2, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Too Human, Blue Dragon...all coming this year (except Fable 2). Most cross format games probably play better on 360 (Seems always the case)...PS3 has to do better.

    Crackdown, Oblivion, Lost Planet, Gears Of War, Vina Patna, Dead Rising, PGR3, Forza Racing, Dead Or Alive 4, Table Tennis, Condemned, Kameo, Command And Conquer:TW, Guitar Hero, Burnout Revenge, Flatout:Ultimate Carnage, Virtua Tennis, Final Fight Boxing..etc...360 does not have variety! Get the facts right.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 18:50

  • Cloudane #79 5 years ago

    TRUTH, I hope you realise that the Xbox 360 has had a 12 month head start over the PS3 and Wii.

    I am talking about the variety on the Xbox 360 most wanted list and several of the games you have mentioned will not be coming out in 2007 either.

  • evild_edd #80 5 years ago

    @ Smelly "HANG ON!!!

    That's just the 360's line up with ratchet and clank...

    (so therefor that makes the ps3 the winner imho)"

    LOL.... Ratchet & Clank or Halo 3...

    Ratchet & Clank of Mass Effect...

    Ratchet & Clank or watching paint dry....

    Mmmmm... I love the smell of a fresh coat of paint!!! ;0)

    Let's face it amigos - 360 has a stronger 2007 hands-down. It picks up the PS3s shooters in 2008 (a wise choice by the publishers as they fear Halo) in Haze and UT2008, and then throws Lost Odyssee, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, and Banjo in to the mix.

    Don't get me wrong, if you've the cash to get a 360 and PS3 go for it (I would!!!), but if you've the choice of one (and I imagine most Eurogamer readers already have one of the next-gen consoles), the 360 seems the better choice at present. If that doesn't convince I'll say this - waht would you rather play CoD4 online on? Xbox Live everytime ladies and gentlemen.

  • evild_edd #81 5 years ago

    Oh, and general rant/confusion on my part here - I don't get Nintendo fans' cockyness (probably not a word) at the mo'. Yes, your console is selling well and, yes, Nintendo should be applauded for trying something new!

    ///applaudes

    But, really, you do realise that there are no good games on your console... right? Oh... you hadn't!?!?!? :/

    (starting to wonder if I 'get' Nintendo games like Animal Crossing... am I missing something, or do they just not feel like games at all?)

  • JYM60 #82 5 years ago

    Mass effect is way too overhyped.

  • EmiliasHorse #83 5 years ago

    No it isn't.

  • Kryon #84 5 years ago

    @ evild_edd

    "But, really, you do realise that there are no good games on your console... right?"

    I totally agree, Why do you think smelly is on EG every minute of every day trying to put the 360 down, some people regret their Wii purchase and now come to troll here day in, day out, because they have no games, did you lot know that smelly is a grown man in his 30's who had to leave the UK because his mummy and daddy moved to America and smelly couldn't afford his own place (hence him only having a Wii) so he got dragged along and had to leave all his (imaginary) mates behind in Skegness, now he spends his days in some backwater settling in his mums attic in the dark drinking cheap tequila and trolling games sites. Sometimes he gets bored of EG and scans faceparty for youngsters to talk to as they have the same mind set as him but more often than not his mother catches him and threatens to call the FBI on him so he returns to EG to continue his pathetic clown show of a trolling attempt ...

  • TRUTH #85 5 years ago

    'Haze' and 'Unreal' are both coming to the 360.

  • Les #86 5 years ago

    "But, really, you do realise that there are no good games on your console... right? Oh... you hadn't!?!?!? :/ "

    I understand your frustration. Even without decent games the Wii simply trashes your console of choice. But with sales numbers like these, it's only a matter of time before the AAA titles will come first and foremost to the Wii. Had the gaming world not been so stupid to believe in Sony and MS's ridiculous vision of HD gaming, they would have shifted their top resources to Wii development sooner. Wii owns this generation.

  • Les #87 5 years ago

    "'Haze' and 'Unreal' are both coming to the 360."

    Yep, timed exclusives. Just like Bioshock. And probably that Sam Fisher guy. Oh, those damned NDA's...
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 19:58

  • Scimarad #88 5 years ago

    I think the "nothing in there I like" comments say more about some posters lack of taste than anything...

    -edit-

    Still nothing on there I want quite as much as Mass Effect;-)
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 20:02

  • RedPanda #89 5 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • Les #90 5 years ago

    Kryon has a bit of a personality problem. Something you see quite often with angry young fanboys...

  • RedPanda #91 5 years ago

    Post deleted at 14:31:59 28-01-2012

  • Les #92 5 years ago

    "If that doesn't convince I'll say this - waht would you rather play CoD4 online on?"

    I for one would rather play CoD4 not all. Don't know what all these "look at these great games on platform X!" type of posts are meant to achieve. Different people, different tastes. I got a PS3 because it allowed me to play the best baseball game ever (Pro Yakyu Spirits 4) as well as the latest versions of the MLB franchises. For me that alone was worth the Euro 600 investment. I bet you care as little for those games as I do for Mass Effect, Alan Wake or Halo Wars. But that doesn't bother me, nor should it bother you.

  • Les #93 5 years ago

    "like football."

    If Van Persie stays healthy, Arsenal have practically won the Championship already... ;)

  • JYM60 #94 5 years ago

    Yes it is.

  • some1 #95 5 years ago

    Hey, krudster! How about a PS2 Most Wanted, since it's the console people actually own already? The only upcoming game I'm excited about is GH3, but it can't really be that dire... can it?

  • Dire #96 5 years ago

    where has it been said that Bioshock is coming to the ps3?

  • mkreku #97 5 years ago

    No word on White Knight Story? I thought that game looked very interesting. Might not be a PS3 exclusive though..

  • Kryon #98 5 years ago

    @Les

    "Something you see quite often with angry young fanboys"

    Coming from someone who freely admits he suffers with severe anti Microsoft syndrome, that comment means little but feel free to try harder next time son ;)

  • Kryon #99 5 years ago

    "I understand your frustration. Even without decent games the Wii simply trashes your console of choice"

    No Les, (unbiased) people have a so called 'console of choice' because of the games they can play on it, your statement just shows what an imbecile you truly are :(

    Nevermind eh...

  • Les #100 5 years ago

    "Coming from someone who freely admits he suffers with severe anti Microsoft syndrome"

    There we go again... Standard fanboy defense mode: Blame the other side of bias. Try something original, will you?

    "No Les, (unbiased) people have a so called 'console of choice' because of the games they can play on it"

    Yes, which is the point I'm making, if you actually read my posts. Different people, different preferences, which is what the idiots posting exclusives lists here don't get. Consumers clearly prefer the Wii and it's games. Hard for most people on this site to accept, apparently. Leading to childish behaviour like gloating and accusations. I must admit I occasionally strike back, which isn't the most mature thing to do, but hey, turning the other cheek isn't that easy.

  • Les #101 5 years ago

    "where has it been said that Bioshock is coming to the ps3?"

    EGM mentioned it 1 or two months ago in their preview feature of the title. But because of the NDA clauses in the exclusivity agreement nobody at Irrational is going to confirm or deny it of course. MS is smarter than Sony (or has deeper pockets) and signs these exclusivity deals at an early stage, instead of 2-3 months before release.

  • muftak #102 5 years ago

    @ Truth

    you need to get your facts right mate

    Alan wake , too human are NOT coming this year either

    lair , HS and R&C my top 3 i cant wait for

  • AOFanboi #103 5 years ago

    The difference between the PS3 version and the 360 version of a multiplatform title:

    PS3 owner: Buys game, goes home, plops it into console, plays.

    360 owner: Buys game, forgot he sent in the RRoD-crashed beast for repairs, looks at purty box art for a week or two.

    And there was no Home or LBP there - why? How can EG not look forward to those?

  • pancho #104 5 years ago

    Dude, the first three paragraphs are ONLY about Home. And they've already said these articles are only about boxed retail games...

  • Xerx3s #105 5 years ago

    Because each is aimed at a different demographic.

    Really? You could have fooled me. These days it's all indentikit games on both platforms. :/

  • Xerx3s #106 5 years ago

    Mass effect is way too overhyped.

    It's bioware. It's not possible.

  • JediMasterMalik #107 5 years ago

    I was going to complain about the general lack of sense and meaning in most of these comments, and then realised where I was.
    Edited by 1 at 03/08/07 @ 23:25

  • Xerx3s #108 5 years ago

    Muftak: Actually, I think Too Human has been confirmed for this year on the last E3. Nitpicking of course.

  • Xerx3s #109 5 years ago

    I was going to complain about the general lack of sense and meaning in most of these comments, and then realised where I was.

    I wish I realised where I was sometimes. Would make life a whole lot easier. ;_;



  • JediMasterMalik #110 5 years ago

    Late, is usually the answer to that question for you. ;)

  • TRUTH #111 5 years ago

    "Mass Effect way over hyped"...Yhea right! It's only produced by some of the best RPG developers around. Was voted one of the best games for development/innovation by game journalist. Looks fantastic too.

    Oh! 'Liar' hasn't really impressed from 1st impressions from various rports. That's the reason they've delayed a month or two. But don't expect somthing great like Bioshock,
    Mass Effect.

  • Brianstorm #112 5 years ago

    to be honest i can't wait for advance wars 2 on ds with wi fi... game of the year! 2007 that is not between '08 and '10

  • Vic #113 5 years ago

    Why is everyone bigging up Mass Effect? It looks like garbage. As for Blue Dragon, Edge describes it as a generic, bland, rpg and only gave it 6/10. I wouldnt hold up my hopes for Lost Odessey...

  • evild_edd #114 5 years ago

    Bleugh… coming back to look at this thread this morning (Tried to have a proper lie-in today but my mind is racing for some reason :p). Looks like a few things I maybe wasn’t too clear on:

    1. Errm… 360 is my console of choice AT THE MOMENT. I intend to, hopefully, have justification to buy the other 2 consoles at some point over the next year or 2. TBH, there just aren’t the games there to justify a purchase of either the PS3 or Wii (don’t say Wii Sports - One game doth not a console make)

    2. @Les - I do appreciate that the Wii is selling more but that’s not what frustrates me, it’s the Nintendo fans’ attitude of late. Nintendo used to make great titles (pre game cube) that pushed GAMING boundaries in terms of playability. Their console sold fewer in numbers (SNES onwards) but their fans kept a dignity in getting to play the few classics that they received (and they were few in number) . Now Nintendo make games that aren’t to my taste (fair enough), but also aren’t to the tastes of many established gamers (most Eurogamer readers, surely). Yet Nintendo fans have had something of a personality change and think everything’s about sales figures. When was gaming (as a player) ever about sales? I thought it was about games….

    3. I’m not saying the PS3 should not be bought, just that I don’t see the point (YET!!!) for those already owning a 360.

    For the record:

    4. @ Les (again) re: Bioshock PS3... I’m pretty sure that EGM and many other mags said, if not suggested, we could expect Gears to appear on PS3... And Dead Rising…. And Lost Planet…. Think you get my point!

    5. ///shakes head at AOFanboi

    6. Mass Effect will be great because it’s Bioware! If Krudster can trust Naughty Dog to deliver, then surely a little trust can be afforded for this title.

    7. I would actually like to play Heavenly Sword and possibly Uncharted…. Just not enough for a PS3 purchase.

    8. I’d love to RVP raise the cup for the Gooners…. But I’m a pessimistic Arsenal fan. I fear for our season :/

    Right…. It’s half 9 on a Saturday and I haven’t had a beer yet!?!?!? Time to sort that one out \o/

  • Kryon #115 5 years ago

    @Les

    "There we go again... Standard fanboy defense mode: Blame the other side of bias"

    Not at all Les, as I said, you have freely and blatently admitted your bias in the past, (at times it almost seemed that you hated MS so much that you were almost in tears over it) and please don't deny it as I'm sure others have seen your posts.

    All I can say is that your childish attitude just means you've missed out on some great games of late, sad for you but hey...

    "I must admit I occasionally strike back, which isn't the most mature thing to do, but hey, turning the other cheek isn't that easy."

    You more than occasionally start the flaming yourself too, a little snide comment here, a little dig there, etc..

    I don't like to generalise but PS fans have always been the worst of the fanboys imo . Perhaps because many XBox owners are slightly more mature PC gamers who've converted or perhaps it's just because 360 owners have nothing to be jealous of, who knows eh.... ;)

  • WillTheSecond #116 5 years ago

    "One thing multiple platform owners should consider when deciding whether to buy the Xbox 360 or PS3 version is how much power the machines use. The Xbox 360 uses around 160W compared with the PS3's 280W so if you don't want uber-large electric bills it really does pay to go for the Xbox 360 version. My electric usage has gone up by over 15% since owning the PS3 and there aren't even that many decent games out for it yet. Lord help me when Final Fantasy XIII or White Knight Story are released, I'll have to take out a second mortgage or something! LOL

    P.S. I'm being serious by the way!"

    Environmentally that's also an issue (also be serious). But of course then the Wii is the best option (unless you factor in WiiConnect24, oops). PS3 still seems the worst offender in that department though.

    This selection does look decent, but pales compared to the combined Wii/360 lineup (either one of those lines ups is pretty good on its own).

    Wait a minute...

    Sega Rally – multiplatform.
    Assassins Creed – multiplatform.
    Lego Batman – multiplatform.
    Half Life Episode 2 – multiplatform.
    Unreal Tournament 3 – will probably be on 360.
    Haze – will almost certainly be PC/360.
    Call of Duty IV – multiplatform.
    Rock Band – multiplatform.

    And of the actual exclusive games, only Lair really has my attention, and maybe Heavenly Sword. Those two definitely don't add up to enough to make me fork out £425 though. (Hopefully the 15 Wii titles you choose will actually all be exclusives - or at least only shared with the DS.)
    Edited by 3 at 04/08/07 @ 10:15

  • TRUTH #117 5 years ago

    Haze and Unreal are coming to 360...LES: If you read the various reviews of Blue Dragon, it has received many good marks (Avg 8+/10) inc Japanese infamous Fatuasi games magazine.

  • Vin #118 5 years ago

    This thread is shit.

    BUY A 360.

    (and Blue Dragon cos Edge are talking toss.)

  • deaner #119 5 years ago

    Half-Life 2: Episode 2?

    Don't you mean Half-Life 2: The Orange Box?

  • Kryon #120 5 years ago

    @rdexter

    My comment in no way implied that every single person who's ever owned a 360 is mature or non biased.

    "in a discussion on PS3 games 70 percent of the posts seem to come from 'mature' 360 owners trying yet again to convince others about how great their platform of choice is"

    No not really, there are the extremists ofcourse but this is nothing compared to the idiocy that comes from PS groupies in every and any Halo thread. Most of the comments here have been quite civil (bar a few). Most people are just genuinely pretty unimpressed with what the PS3 has to offer (exclusive-wise) that includes some of the folks who own one in many cases.

  • JYM60 #121 5 years ago

    /Writes on thread
    Sad bunch of twat, especially TRUTH who froths when someone suggests Mass effect is overhyped.

    It's a good, maybe great PS3 line-up.

  • TRUTH #122 5 years ago

    Maybe you need to know that I to own a PS2 and 3. The problem is everytime I give some true criticism over PS,you say I'm a fanboy. The fact is for online: 360 is better then PS3. For multimedia: 360 is better then PS3. For gaming: 360 is better then PS3. For game exclusives: 360 is better then PS3. For graphics: 360 multiformat games (Rainbow Six, The Darkness, Fight Night, Call Of Duty 3...etc) look/play better then PS3, and nothing has shown me on PS3 that is better then Gears Of War,
    and anything that has the carnage/explosions/on screen action and still look sweet without dropping framerates (..PS3 seems to have choppy frame rates at time like these) then games like: Lost Planet, Flatout, Dead Rising, Crackdown etc.

    Oh! I can go on PS3 threads , because I do have one.
    JYM60: Maybe you can't accept that it could be one of the most exciting RPG games to hit a home console...many game reports agree with me.

    The biggest fact is that PS3 is almost double the price of a 360, which does a better job then PS3 - So I'm going to criticize the PS3 untill it does what Sony's hype promised (like they tried with Artec, Betamax, Minidisx, Super Cd, video Cd, and by saying LCD's are better then Plasma - where they were proved embarrassingly wrong by Pioneer, Phillips, Toshiba, Hatachi electronic Japanese 2006 show).
    justified it's price.

    Edited by 2 at 04/08/07 @ 21:56

  • reddevil93 #123 5 years ago

    @ TRUTH

    Do you look at what your typing or just get a keyboard and let your obvious bias towards the 360 go crazy?

    'For multimedia: 360 is better then PS3'.What does the 360 do that the PS3 dosn't here.Even the most avid fanboys will say the PS3 is better for multimedia than 360 because it is a hi-def movie player out of the box.

    'For online: 360 is better then PS3'.This i debatable because you have to pay for live whereas psn is all free(atm) and I would prefer thi than having to pay for it even if it is a worse service(atm).

    'For gaming: 360 is better then PS3'.What a generalised statement that is.Care to expand?

    'For exclusives: 360 is better then PS3'.All depends on choice.And I think that after Christmas there will be lots of great exclusive games available on PS3.

    As for graphics,framerate etc. this isin't the machines fault really its just developers making lazy ports.And you seem to be forgeting that the PS3 is out less than a year and developers are still getting used to the hardware.

    Sorry for the rant just got a bit annoyed.Hope I didn't come off sounding like a fanboy myself :)

  • QotSAfan #124 5 years ago

    Don't worry lads, Arsenals season is going to be fantastic. The amount of options we have upfront and with Hleb actually scoring goals is good news.

    By the way, what the hell is Alan Wake? I've only ever seen hype about this game.

  • Atropos #125 5 years ago

    I've tried an early build of Uncharted and even though it was a slightly buggy version with unfinished fight mechanics, it was an immensely satisfying experience. Trust me, this'll be the sleeper hit of the year.

  • DjFlex52 #126 5 years ago

    I've tried an early build of Uncharted and even though it was a slightly buggy version with unfinished fight mechanics, it was an immensely satisfying experience. Trust me, this'll be the sleeper hit of the year.

    @Atropos

    How can Uncharted be called a sleeper hit if it's being called a AAA title on most game sites and touted a system seller by a selected few?

    hey reddevil93....not to defend the TRUTH but your post is a bunch of crock.

    /shakes head in disbelief

    I guess you'd take free food from a homeless shelter than pay for a great meal...well, you can eat sh*t but I'll pay for my meal :)

    BTW, can you see any South Park season, Deja Vu, loads of game trailers...etc in HD on the PS3? right now?

  • JYM60 #127 5 years ago

    Good post Devil can't see anything wrong with your post.

    Oh TRUTH, when we have seen practically fuck all of a game being touted as the second coming I see no reason why it can't be called overhyped.

    If you do own a PS3 I feel sorry for you and it after that bile post. Rarely do you see that much hate for a console especially when you claim you like sony stuff previously. I don't get it.

  • Kryon #128 5 years ago

    @reddevil93

    Although I can see what you're trying to say, may I just ask you to read your post back, now doesn't it kinda strike you as a barrage of excuses and side-steps? "Its not PS3's fault that the games are choppy and pants, psn ain't really all that but atleast it's free, exclusives depend on choice (even though MS seem to have bought out 90% of them)" etc, etc...

    Sorry but why should you have to make excuses for a piece of kit costing nearly half a grand?

    "'For gaming: 360 is better then PS3'.What a generalised statement that is.Care to expand? "

    All games so far (bar oblivion) that have appeared on both systems are noticeably better on the 360, the 360 is even getting many of Sonys 'flagship' exclusives, DMC4 anyone?
    I don't think the PS3 is crap (my lil bro has one) but even he is a bit disparaged as he got the thing to play VF5 and he was so excited...Only for a few days though as it came to light that a superior version of the game is on it's way to 360. I'm afraid that it's incredibly hard not to sound like an MS fanboy while comparing the PS3 and 360 at the moment as imo one is clearly a better choice for the gamer but hey if you're a movie buff after a cheap Bluray player, PS3 all the way ;)

  • DjFlex52 #129 5 years ago

    Good post Devil can't see anything wrong with your post.

    @JYM60

    then you're as blind as a bat or you spill sony blood when poked.
    well, why don't you try sidestepping and making excuses too, JYM?

    Uh...You don't get it?
    TRUTH and many others paid mucho money for a game system that claimed so much ("next generation starts when Sony says so";) and (SO FAR) has delivered not much.

    Good post, Kryon can't see anything wrong with your post.
    Edited by 1 at 05/08/07 @ 08:00

  • Xerx3s #130 5 years ago

    2. @Les - I do appreciate that the Wii is selling more but that’s not what frustrates me, it’s the Nintendo fans’ attitude of late. Nintendo used to make great titles (pre game cube) that pushed GAMING boundaries in terms of playability. Their console sold fewer in numbers (SNES onwards) but their fans kept a dignity in getting to play the few classics that they received (and they were few in number) . Now Nintendo make games that aren’t to my taste (fair enough), but also aren’t to the tastes of many established gamers (most Eurogamer readers, surely). Yet Nintendo fans have had something of a personality change and think everything’s about sales figures. When was gaming (as a player) ever about sales? I thought it was about games….

    Has some truth to it. Although I wouldn't know, turned my back on the sales wanking in the wii section some time ago.

  • TRUTH #131 5 years ago

    We may have a small subscription that anyone can afford, but the online for 360 is so more developed for online gaming. How you possibly say the PS3 service is better - That's pure bullSh*t. I bet you probably never experienced both console's online and seen the advantages the 360 has and in muiltimedia.

    To say the PS3 had arrived later is simply because of the delay PS3 in manufacturing enough Blu-ray parts for the machine, this delaying it for a year. It is in fact the same age as the 360. PS3 development kits were already with main Sony developers who made MotorStorm & Resisrance (absolute crap!). These were in development for 2yrs: Remember there previews of PS3 graphics power back in 2005. Developers have had extra time, approx 8+ months on cross conversions games (360 to PS3). Also when 360 Elder Scrolls came to the 360, this was a cross sync development with the PC - this was due to dev kits for the 360 being uncomplete. Though the very minor improvements on PS3 is hardly noticable, unlike 360 games that come to PS3 almost a year later, and come our worse..

    As for choice of games!...What system has the most game NOW and most exclusives COMING ? It's not the PS3 or the Wii is it ! And please don't pretend there's no great games on 360. You only be lying to yourself.
    Edited by 2 at 06/08/07 @ 21:54

  • reddevil93 #132 5 years ago

    @ 'djflex'

    if you acctually read my post you would notice i said high def movie player 'out of the box' which the 360 isin't and if your talking about video marketplace thats not out in europe so i dont see your point.

    @ kyron

    i get what your saying and i do come off just making excuses but the truth is i bought a ps3 and i get daily use out of it and it annoys the hell out of me when idiots like TRUTH start criticising it.

    @ TRUTH

    you just convinced me you don't have a ps3 because i dont know 1 person who played them who thought motorstorm and resistance(resisrance?) were crap so go have fun on your 360 which i never said didnt have great games(it does) but you seem to think i did in your crazy fanboy mind.

    @ 'djflex' & 'TRUTH'

    all i was saying about online was i would prefer an extra game per year than better online services.just my opinion but im sure yous will criticise it anyway.

    sorry about another rant :)

  • Les #133 5 years ago

    "Not at all Les, as I said, you have freely and blatently admitted your bias in the past, (at times it almost seemed that you hated MS so much that you were almost in tears over it) and please don't deny it as I'm sure others have seen your posts."

    That's more a problem of you projecting your silly fanboy mindset onto my comments than of said comments themselves. I look at products, not companies. I don't care about companies (unless I've bought their stock of course). Like I've said before, there are few MS products that I like (the original Xbox being one of the few). If that in your puny mind means that I hate MS, well there's little that I can do about it.

    "You more than occasionally start the flaming yourself too, a little snide comment here, a little dig there, etc.."

    Never start, always react. But like I said, not something I'm very proud of.

    "I don't like to generalise but PS fans have always been the worst of the fanboys imo . Perhaps because many XBox owners are slightly more mature PC gamers who've converted or perhaps it's just because 360 owners have nothing to be jealous of, who knows eh.... ;)"

    Fanboy banter at its finest. I think fanboy psychology is the only true explanation: You like your own and hate the others. I'd hardly call what you do mature. Try to use some real arguments for once instead of taking the easy way out and branding everyone not agreeing with your POV a fanboy.

  • Les #134 5 years ago

    "When was gaming (as a player) ever about sales? I thought it was about games…"

    Fully agree. My point is that apparently a lot of people get enjoyment out of the Wii even if, from the POV of a traditional gamer, the games so far are pants. A "good game" is not an equivalent of "good graphics", which Sony and MS seem to think. I applaud Nintendo's dare to break out of the pointless "more pixels"-loop. I don't need a PS3/360 if all it does is take a PS2/Xbox game and adds some pixels and cuts some content. And apparently there are more people that feel that way.

    What the DS and Wii' s success combined with relatively low development cost means is that publishers are able to take chances. Which eventually will be translated into innovative and good games. Look at PS2. Strong sales and good games strengthen each other.

  • Les #135 5 years ago

    "If you do own a PS3 I feel sorry for you and it after that bile post. Rarely do you see that much hate for a console especially when you claim you like sony stuff previously. I don't get it."

    TRUTH is probably an MS-paid viral marketeer (or otherwise just a sad person) that starts to mix up his stories. TRUTH didn't have a PS3 but knew it was crap. When he realised that took credit away from his attacking PS3, his brother got a PS3. After a while, his brother lended him the machine but TRUTH hated it so much that now apparently he got his own one. Just so that he can let it gather dust...

  • Kryon #136 5 years ago

    @Les

    "That's more a problem of you projecting your silly fanboy mindset onto my comments than of said comments themselves"

    Utter bollocks Les and you know it, you have on more than one occasion expressed your blatant and strong dislike for MS as a company. If you want to sit their and lie to yourself, that's fine but we've all read your past comments. Atleast by you denying you ever said these things it proves you believe your past comments to be of such a pathetic nature that you now feel the need to pretend you never said them....

    Oh and you never start flame wars eh Les? Honestly mate you're either full of crap or deluded.

    Anyway, carry on denying it, it just makes you look silly and further depletes any credibility you had in the first place..

  • TRUTH #137 5 years ago

    I meant Resistance was crap, esp compared to Halo, Call Of Duty 3, F.E.A.R, Half Life 2, The Darkness, Quack 4; But I didn't mean Motor Storm was crap. It's a 8/10 for me.

    LES: My brother leant me his PS3 and still is with me as I have a 50' plasma HD. I compare the 2 as I can, so I will.

    To say that Sony & MS only pump more pixels is simply crap. Games evolve...can Elder Scrols, Dead Rising, Motor Storm, Crack Down, Vina Patna, Flatout: Ultimate Carnage...etc be done Wii - Probably to some extent. Though this will have major edits everything from: graphics, AI, draw distance, sound, physics, characters onscreen, special effects, speech..etc, etc all being cut or removed to run on a inferior powered system.

    To also say that Wii has a variety is 'BULL'. So-far everything is either a mini-game collection, or another fun for a few minutes game. Though Zelda was a fine game, it's still the same game with a new lick of paint and added control - which does the same function as previous Zelda games.

    To be honest games like: Elder Scrolls, Ghost Racon, The Darkness (360 version), Motor Storm, Virtua Fighter 5, Dead Rising, Vina Patna, Forza Racing, Crackdown, Gears Of War, kameo, Guitar Heros, Command & Conquer..etc, have way more variety and gameplay then any Wii game, and last more alooooooooot longer with depth then any Wii game. Simply more choice on 360/PS3 (2nd).

    With games like Bioshock, Half Life 2, Mass Effect, Assassin Creed, Fable 2, Fallout..etc, coming soon. It will futher prove that MS & Sony's machines are more then just 'More Pixels'. Ai, physics, memory, graphics, sound, playing area, on screen characters, animation etc is just some of the reason Wii won't be seeing some of the best games coming.
    Edited by 2 at 05/08/07 @ 14:44

  • reddevil93 #138 5 years ago

    if you keep playing resistance its a lot of fun.it really improves as it goes on an co-op and online are great fun.

  • grandmaster Verified Director, Digital Foundry #139 5 years ago

    Burnout Paradise (winner of the E3 'best racing game' award, first open world game to run at 60fps, cross-format project with PS3 as the lead platform) appears to be curiously absent.

  • Kryon #140 5 years ago

    @reddevil93

    "it annoys the hell out of me when idiots like TRUTH start criticising it."

    Yeah, I get you mate, I guess you get extremist fanboys on all sides of the fence, Smelly for Nintendo, Les for Sony and TRUTH for MS, the lot of them are a tad embarrassing and at worst just rather tedious.

  • JYM60 #141 5 years ago

    I guess I just wan't to play games online, I don't give fuck about gamerscores or achievements, PSN does online gaming perfectly and will only get better. It's free and does what I want.

    How this sounds like I'm making excuses is beyond me, then again when we have people like TRUTH clearly talking shit you never know who to believe.

    TRUTH, don't know what you are on about Motorstorm is excellent as is resistance. And I hope you're not talking about me calling mass effect overhyped when you say people are calling 360 games crap. I'll def be getting a 360 for halol and bioshock.
    Edited by 1 at 05/08/07 @ 17:07

  • DjFlex52 #142 5 years ago

    @ 'djflex'
    if you acctually read my post you would notice i said high def movie player 'out of the box' which the 360 isin't and if your talking about video marketplace thats not out in europe so i dont see your point.

    @reddevil93

    I did read your post again and I missed (yes, I can admit it) that you said that the PS3 is "better for" multimedia not better than...

    @ 'djflex' & 'TRUTH'
    all i was saying about online was i would prefer an extra game per year than better online services.just my opinion but im sure yous will criticise it anyway.

    ok...this answer doesn't need criticism though, you started it all by ranting/criticizing on the TRUTH. But.....reddevil93...think about what you posted....what extra game a year?? You need games, period. Even your and JYM's arguments with TRUTH is only about 2 games in 9 months of PS3 ownership. See, thats a question not a critique :) You can afford to buy an expensive multimedia game system but moan over paying pennies a month for a great online package? That's another question
    Edited by 1 at 05/08/07 @ 18:02

  • TRUTH #143 5 years ago

    JYM60:...I said Resistance is crap not Motor Storm...Resistance is nothing but a sub-standard fps. I played to the end and it just started to drag and hardly had the freedom to explore, as the game never allowed you. This game may be fine for FPS on PS3, but, if this was on 360/PC it would been ignored - its just plain crap!... And how am I speaking Shit - I'm not lying or making bull up am I about the PS3, am I ?...Or is it that you can't take the criticism, or may be your PS fanboy! - Probably
    Edited by 2 at 06/08/07 @ 22:02

  • JYM60 #144 5 years ago

    Well online is where it's at with Resistance. The 1p wasn't the greatest but I breezed through it and have been playing online since launch. So many good game modes and maps and guns.

  • Overlush #145 5 years ago

    Now this thread has exactly as much bullshit in it as the 360 one did

  • Overlush #146 5 years ago

    Huzzah! Now it has more. The PS3 MUST be the more important console. Fact.

  • JediMasterMalik #147 5 years ago

    Halol is gonna be loleriffic

  • JYM60 #148 5 years ago

    You lol fanboy you!

  • Kryon #149 5 years ago

    Halol is looking good but according to TRUTH us 360 owners also have Ghost Racon, and Vina Patna to be getting on with! Great stuff

    What have you PS3 fans got eh? Oh, resisrance and Quak 4 ( some kind of sequel to that stupid duck game you lot have I assume) ;)

    (check TRUTHS second to last post to learn more about these amazing games)

  • JYM60 #150 5 years ago

    Ghost Recon amazing? Joke right?

    Next on TRUTH's list of totally awesome games is splinter cell and MoH is suppose.

    X )

  • Vandrius #151 5 years ago

    PS3 article means go hug your 360's elsewhere, kthx.

    Muppets.

  • Kryon #152 5 years ago

    Vandrius, this is a PS3 thread, we're not here to discuss your favourite TV show.

    KTHNXBYE.

  • afghan_jones #153 5 years ago

    fraggles.

  • TRUTH #154 5 years ago

    JYM60 - No but: Bioshock, Halo 3, Fable 2, PGR4, Project Impact (makers of Ninja Gaiden), Mass Effect, Splinter Cell Convection, Left 4 Dead are.

    ...Along with PS3 ex-exclusives: Resident Evil 5, Assassin Creed, Unreal 3.
    Edited by 1 at 07/08/07 @ 22:08

  • JYM60 #155 5 years ago

    Shh. And TRUTH the only ones of them I care about are Bioshock and halol, and I WILL be getting a 360. I just think you need to cut the ps3 list some slack, it's a pretty good list.

  • caligari #156 5 years ago

    If TRUTH'S family tarmacked more driveways, then maybe they could afford a PS3. :p

    Edited by 1 at 12/08/07 @ 14:09

  • JYM60 #157 5 years ago

    :-D

  • TRUTH #158 5 years ago

    caligari: I do have a PS3 and a PS2, Xbox, XBox 360...Maybe your family can sell themselves to get you a 360.

  • JYM60 #159 5 years ago

    Thought the PS3 was your brother's girlfriend's dog's mother's goldfish's?

  • TRUTH #160 5 years ago

    Yeah! the PS3 is, but stays with me as he is not so concerned with it, lost interest.
    Edited by 1 at 13/08/07 @ 00:23

  • reddevil93 #161 5 years ago

    So the goldfish is a he.

    /wonders how he found out

  • JYM60 #162 5 years ago

    So someone buys a ps3, doesn't like it. So decides to give it to someone else who hates it. Riiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggght.

  • TRUTH #163 5 years ago

    Well my brother is the sort who thinks of brand names when buying electronics, and Sony is a brand name. He wanted a gaming console & was convinced by Sony that SOny is the best in everything (Reality this is not true!) by the sales team at Sony shop. Bought the PS3 with Motor Storm & VF5. Wanted to play on my HD 50' Plasma so he bought it around and played it a few times; It's been with me since & that's how I ended up with it (so-far)...I borrowed & hired games to compare difference betwwen 360 & PS3 and that's the reason why I criticize PS3, as Sony hype has not lived up to their claims and yet PS3 failed to impress me over a console half it's price and of less hype has surpassed the PS3. To me a 'console' main reason is for 'games' - This where the 360 ROCKS!...Managed to convince a few other people who fell under the Sony hype too, simply by showing them side by side the 360 vs PS3...Taught them there's more to gaming then PS3 and saving them a few dollars.
    Edited by 3 at 14/08/07 @ 00:02