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7 August, 2008

Tempting.

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nick_f
07/08/08 @ 14:58
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I really like this game, I think it's good fun between meaty slices of Braid and Geo Wars 2.

I would give it.... *drumroll* 7/10

I haven't played a disc-based game for 2 weeks.
MrCrun
07/08/08 @ 15:00
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Okay then. Why is it retarded? I said it was true FOR ME. Hell of a qualifier that. It make my statement wholly subjective and therefore any critisism of it also wholly subjective. Calling me an idiot is harsh and not true. I allow everyone to have an opinion (bigotry not withstanding) but seriously lay off the personal attacks just 'cause I have an opinion.
And no this is not hypocritical calling someone on blatent bigotry is another ball game. Not to mention he wasn't being subjective.
mikeck
07/08/08 @ 15:00
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"7/10 Whyyyyyyyyy? ;_; "

Ellie hates you Razz - it's the truth ;)
mcbi4kh2
07/08/08 @ 15:02
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@MrCrun
I allow everyone to have an opinion (bigotry not withstanding)

Is it just me or is that a paradoxical statement?

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bad09
07/08/08 @ 15:08
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I think Ellie should be punished for upsetting the PS3 boys, how about uploading the Games Night (RIP) Rock Band footage EG?

Come Ellie smile for the camera! ;)
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Weezer
07/08/08 @ 15:08
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Well if Ellie's entertaining review was specifically designed to elicit page hits, job done!

/click

EDIT: Removed 'fanboy' phrase on Arbiter's advice.
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darc
07/08/08 @ 15:21
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...advertising agency. One of those ones with a name like "Pants" or "Sandwich" or "Twat".'

LOL! How can so many people complain about a review that features a line like that one? :)
ElNino9
07/08/08 @ 15:23
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7/10 is extremly harsh. Yeah, it's frustrating, but it has that something about it which makes it a 9 for me.
mcbi4kh2
07/08/08 @ 15:23
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@darc
Because its immature, irelevant and unprofessional.
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David W
07/08/08 @ 15:24
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The author of a text as awkward as that Eden review, clearly has lost all rights to ever again call anything or anyone pretentious.

I really enjoy Eden. Haven't given it that much time yet, cleared the first garden and poked around a bit in the others. I find the controls easy enough but my girlfriend won't touch it because she finds it too difficult to control. So although I don't agree with the reviewer about the controls, I can see where she comes from.

I really didn't find this review helpful, informative or even honest. And please tell of you were being ironic while flinging "pretentious" around.
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Moonprince
07/08/08 @ 15:24
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darc - You're missing the point though. Her comments and approach are one of the few reasons worth reading the site, however -

If she can't review for shit, she can't review for shit.
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Rash'
07/08/08 @ 15:24
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peterfll, It's the first tab on the bloody store! Like I said you don't know what you're talking about, "love". ;o)
mingster
07/08/08 @ 15:25
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Arbiter do you 'honestly' think EG have a platform of choice.

Platforms are exactly what they sound like a way of reaching something,
in this case a way of playing a certain game.

Therefore a platform is generic and it matters not what one you use to play a game.
Just what game is available on what system.

if you enjoy games in general then you should own 'all' platforms.
urban
07/08/08 @ 15:26
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knob of a review.
dylan_cuthbert
07/08/08 @ 15:29
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As the creator of this "pretentious" and "confusing" game, reading this review disappointed me. With this kind of pretentious attention seeking tabloid journalism I might as well give up trying to do anything that's a little different.

Thanks to all the commentors who stood up for Eden, you are all brilliant and the team loves you all!

squarejawhero
07/08/08 @ 15:30
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"As the creator of this "pretentious" and "confusing" game, reading this review disappointed me. With this kind of pretentious attention seeking tabloid journalism I might as well give up trying to do anything that's a little different.

Thanks to all the commentors who stood up for Eden, you are all brilliant and the team loves you all! "

Oh dear.
mingster
07/08/08 @ 15:31
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your not brian .. i am!
squarejawhero
07/08/08 @ 15:32
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I'm Dylan Cuthbert.
bad09
07/08/08 @ 15:33
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I'm Sparta..er...Dylan Cuthbert!
Rash'
07/08/08 @ 15:34
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I don't care whether it's a man or woman, if you spend you're whole time complaining about a game and then conclude with "I don't why, but it's still compelling", then you've failed as a reviewer.

7/10 is well above average so tell us why it's well above average. Complaining for a good 1 and half pages to then spare a few paragraphs for why it's good isn't coherant writing.

Those posting here saying "I thought it was shit, but I couldn't put it down" have fundamentally missed the point. If you can't put it down then the game clearly is doing something right.

As I said before shockingly inarticulate review.
mingster
07/08/08 @ 15:37
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I dunno.... i don't particularly like wine gums but i can't just have one or two and end up eating the whole pack then wondering why i bothered.
ronuds
07/08/08 @ 15:37
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People complain about reviews being too kind these days, but when one comes out that isn't, everyone complains that it's not high enough.

Accept the score and move on. If you don't agree, then it's your opinion. But to call the reviewer names and talk about his mother is going a bit far.

It's some funny stuff, though!
Rash'
07/08/08 @ 15:40
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"Accept the score and move on."

Ah, kind of defeats the point of the comments section, mate.

Oh, and the reviewers a she.
DanWhitehead
07/08/08 @ 15:46
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For an example, the massive fact that Braid is incredibly short was missing from the glowing review, indeed only after being questioned did Dan come on and say it was quite possible (if you were good enough) to beat the game in a hour!

I didn't mention it because the length of the game really wasn't an issue for me. The length of a game only really warrants a mention if its too long or too short. Braid was exactly the right length for what it was trying to do. 200 levels would have ruined it, whereas that sort of size was perfect for N+.

The speed run time limit is 45 minutes so, like most 2D platformers, the game can be completed incredibly quickly - once you know what to do. First playthrough, most people will take at least four or five hours getting all the last puzzle pieces. Even then, I'll take quality over quantity every time.

We now return you to Everybody Loves Ellie...
squarejawhero
07/08/08 @ 15:49
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I love comments tards complaining about how a review is written whilst simultaneously mis-spelling everything and screwing up teh grammar. Brilliant!

/munches toenail clippings
Rash'
07/08/08 @ 15:53
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squarejawhero, I don't get paid to review and I certainly don't have a responsibility to be grammatically sound, so pIsS oFF. :)
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squarejawhero
07/08/08 @ 15:55
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I'm quite comfy here with my toenail clippings and high horse, thank you very much. In fact it's the highest horse here, so risk is it might chuffing well piss on the nearest comment tard tha...

Ooops! Sorry down there. Er, red wine is good for horse piss.
Rash'
07/08/08 @ 15:57
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squarejawhero, Ah, no. Away with you because you don't have a high horse to sit on.
squarejawhero
07/08/08 @ 15:57
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Shit. I thought it looked like a donkey when I bought it.
Rash'
07/08/08 @ 15:58
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squarejawhero, If you look again you'll see it is...

;)

OK. Enough of this dick waving.
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squarejawhero
07/08/08 @ 16:00
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I'll never trust a welshman again.
Eighthours
07/08/08 @ 16:01
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You can't complete Braid in an hour. There's more to do after all the puzzle pieces have been collected, you know. Really, really fiendish stuff.
superted
07/08/08 @ 16:03
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honestly the worst review i've read on this site

comes across as really naive and arrogant
illusiondance
07/08/08 @ 16:06
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ha ha, you seem to have upset a number of sony fan-boys Ellie.
Anyway really good review, it has mysteriously made me want to play this game despite the awful name.
ChadSexington
07/08/08 @ 16:12
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Jesus, give it a rest you lot.

This was a well written review, regardless of whether you agree with Ellie's opinions or not. She's dead wrong about the physics - they're annoyingly CONSISTENT, if anything - but she should be applauded for being honest and writing a review from the heart.
illusiondance
07/08/08 @ 16:12
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(P.S. to Gibson - your blase attitude to gaming is a valued element of balance as far as im concerned, cheers.)
IronCladChicken
07/08/08 @ 16:20
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Wow - PS3 owners really are the whinest little pissants.
I hadn't realised how much worse you guys are than the 360 fan bois.
rodpad
07/08/08 @ 16:20
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P45 Achievement unlocked
darc
07/08/08 @ 16:26
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@mcbi and Moonprince:

You're taking my comment (and arguably this entire topic) way too seriously.

I don't envy the EG staff. The readers are a fickle bunch. We fill up these comment threads with words of praise, addressing the writers - whom most of us have never met - on a first name basis and commending them on their senses of humor. Then when same writers get a little familiar with their tone, we bash them for being too casual, and therefore unprofessional.

Again, all way too serious.
Landmaster
07/08/08 @ 16:27
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I thought it was shit to be honest.

Nearly as shit as this review.
But Ellie's sound so it's ok :)
bad09
07/08/08 @ 16:35
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@ DanWhitehead

Fair enough mate and I do agree with quality over quantity (although a few hours is taking the piss a little!), I just think such a short length should be at the very least be mentioned especially with the 10/10 score. don't get me wrong I very much enjoyed your review just a little more detail on the game would have helped.

I wasn't picking on you BTW, just using an example :)
menage
07/08/08 @ 16:40
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Pfff. You just suck at it.

Let someone else review it. This just reeks of bias.

TASTYRYAN
07/08/08 @ 16:41
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Wow looks good but i play The last guy instead of this. Looks repetitive.
ronuds
07/08/08 @ 16:42
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@ Rash

"Ah, kind of defeats the point of the comments section, mate."

Fair enough, there are certainly room for comments. It just seems whenever a game (particularly PS3 titles) are rated lower than what certain people expect, it suddenly becomes an issue of incompetence from the reviewer rather than being more accepting of their opinion.

"Oh, and the reviewers a she."

Maybe that's the problem! ;)
jamespo
07/08/08 @ 16:45
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got exciting reading about this game

downloaded the demo

yyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn

the score is generous
Moonprince
07/08/08 @ 16:46
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darc buddy, you misunderstand. I couldn't really care less about what you say. I saw something you wrote as silly and took 5 seconds out to reply. Simple as that - I think it's you that's taking it all a bit serious really - reviews still shit though.
trebell
07/08/08 @ 16:46
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@confounder: of course it might be that it's justnot very good.

They are actually able to enjoy and rate fairly both 360 and PS3 games and those of us who aren't (for god knows what reason) tied to a brand are able to enjoy them all too.
Gaol
07/08/08 @ 16:53
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Can't disagree with anything in that review and 7 seems fair.

Doesn't matter on your skill level, you WILL be totally frustrated at certain points while playing. The game has a relaxing look and chilled out music, I'm surprised they didn't make it a bit more forgiving.

Well worth a fiver though. And I like the pretentiousness of many PSN titles, almost like a format identity now.
Katsumoto
07/08/08 @ 17:03
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To be honest, the fact that this review doesn't entirely, one hundred percent, mirror my own feelings, leads only to one inescapable conclusion. EG is being bought off by every company ever and is a completely shit site and i hate it OH GOD I HATE IT.
RedSparrows
07/08/08 @ 17:07
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Pretentiousness is often a very misused insult.

People call something pretentious if it involves anything slightly more abstract than what they like - at any level. Of course, some things ARE pretentious, no doubt.

But let's look at the word:

It means to make a claim of importance or of great merit. Usually associated with speaking of things 'it doesn't understand'. If a game such as Braid (not played PixelJunk, but Braid has been accused of it too, and I'll use the similarities to cover both) is pretentious, it should make claims about itself (it doesn't, it just is, and is very good), or it should, in its story, be unbearable because of its pretense.

But it isn't. Not that I'm going to put in spoilz, but beyond some slightly poetic (any poetry is deemed by some as pretentious) language, why is it pretentious?

THIS post IS pretentious, as it's attempting to make an important point on the internet, which is doomed to fail. But one mans pretentious is another man's passion. They're not mutually exclusive of course, but neither does it mean the former is automatically 'right', simply because they can be more cynical than the latter. Apparently, cynicism and a rejection of any attachment is the 'best' way, because it avoids all chance of damage - hence everything is pretentious, because it is not exactly like ones life, which must surely be very dull without some colour....

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