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PGR 1 and 2 now 360 compatible News

Xbox 360 Xbox News by Kristan Reed

13 July, 2007

Admist all the E3 hype and fluff, Microsoft snuck out the latest of its Backward Compatibility updates, with some of the very best Xbox games ever made now fully compatible with the Xbox 360.

Top of a lot of people's (i.e. Tom's) list will be OutRun 2 and its delightful follow-up OutRun 2006: Coast To Coast, but even better (in my opinion) is the news that Project Gotham Racing and Project Gotham Racing 2 have finally joined the BC list. About time too. Really.

Elsewhere on the list, Oblivion fans looking for another Xbox RPG fix might want to check out The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. We gave it a respectable 8/10 upon its PC release five years ago, and many RPG fans rate it extremely highly. I picked up a copy on Xbox for £3 recently, so have a poke around in the bargain buckets and see what you reckon.

Also worth checking out is the original Burnout - but maybe only to remind yourself just how far the series has come. Other items of interest are Doom III: Resurrection of Evil, Full Spectrum Warrior: 10 Hammers, Jet Set Radio Future (which was supposed to work last time around, but didn't), Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders, Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Mech Assault 2, MotoGP 2, Silent Hill 2, and Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2X and 3.

In total, the list has grown by almost 70 titles, although, to be honest, most of these newly compatible games are ones you'd never want to darken your doorstep ever again. Blinx 2? Without Warning? Rogue Ops? Bloodrayne 2? Auto Modelista? Nurse!

For the full list, head to the official site, though bear in mind this is the US list. No-one's bothered to update the UK list yet, but they're generally identical from our experience.

We really do wish someone from the BC team would finally sort out Project Zero for Europe, though. Are you reading Microsoft? What about Rallisport Challenge 2? Psi Ops? Kung Fu Chaos? Freedom Fighters? Oddworld Stranger's Wrath? Otogi? Midtown Madness 3? Galleon? Indiana Jones? Voodoo Vince? Deus Ex Invisible War? TOCA Race Driver 2 or 3? [Explodes]

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Xerx3s
13/07/07 @ 08:37
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Morrowind ftw! \0/

Loading times haven't improved though. :(
S.J.Rogers
13/07/07 @ 08:37
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Bugger....

Sold them..!
themagicaltaz
13/07/07 @ 08:38
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Will I get to download Paris and Long Beach again for free ?

Not thatI can test it since my 360 had a nice ROD after 30 minutes of Forza2 after just being back from repair...
kangarootoo
13/07/07 @ 08:38
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Morrowind?! \o/

/heads off to ebay to find a goty version. Never did check out those werewolves and loved them in Daggerfall.
Merefield
13/07/07 @ 08:39
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Is there generally any improvement in the visuals on these things?
Eighthours
13/07/07 @ 08:40
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Yes! PGR2!
jonsaan
13/07/07 @ 08:41
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"Not thatI can test it since my 360 had a nice ROD after 30 minutes of Forza2 after just being back from repair... "

Oh, but I thought MS now know what the problem is and can actually fix the ROD.

/smacks forehead..
Machetazo
13/07/07 @ 08:42
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Guilty Gear X2:Reload works, now. But, the fact they added Morrowind also is tops, along with KuF: Crusaders - the first console one.
speedjack
13/07/07 @ 08:42
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Cool.

Just picked up outrun 2 on Amazon marketplace for £2.22 !
trav
13/07/07 @ 08:47
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JET SET RAAAAAAAAAAADIO!

\o/
ccfb
13/07/07 @ 08:47
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"We gave it a respectable 8/10 upon its PC release five years ago, but many RPG fans rate it extremely highly."

The implication being an 8/10 isn't high?
brooza
13/07/07 @ 08:47
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WHERE'S PRINCE OF PERSIA?!?
pinchofsalt
13/07/07 @ 08:50
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Nowt wrong with the Blinx games - they keep my 3 yr old amused so they're worth every penny.
kangarootoo
13/07/07 @ 08:51
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@Merefield

Generally not. I think the option is there (as in, supported by the bc tech) for devs to update textures and so on, but I wouldn't expect it as the budget for such things won't exist in the majority of cases.

I would see BC as simply a way of being able to put your old XB in a cupboard somewhere AND play the older games in a higher res (not sure if the 360 does any smoothing though).

One thing I have found about 360 bc that is a bit annoying is the lack of widescreen support from most games. The originals ran fine in widescreen, but on the 360 they mostly run in 4:3 only. Not a big issue though and I've still been happy with the BC support (except Sniper Elite, which doesn't work despite being on the list; booting to the menu but freezing on level launch does not count imo).
lambtron
13/07/07 @ 08:53
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errr Galleon? Why would you care if that worked or not ;)
onyxbox
13/07/07 @ 08:57
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Oh, but I thought MS now know what the problem is and can actually fix the ROD.

Despite the 3 year warranty thing, these things will still break, it's still going to spend more time in the garage as it gets older.

I reckon the *only* true fix will be to buy the 65nm 360 next year (god help them is they screw that one up too).

mazzl
13/07/07 @ 08:57
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PGR2 YESSS :)
was about to give all my xbox games away, now i get to keep pgr2 just untill 4 comes out
kangarootoo
13/07/07 @ 08:58
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Galleon is good fun. Not as great as the hype suggested, but for the manhours invested its very good (the history of that project is many things, but lack of talent is not one of them).
krudster [mod]
13/07/07 @ 09:00
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From ancedotal chats, many of my Morrowind loving friends thought it was a 10, a 9 minimum. 8 is by no means a low score...
kangarootoo
13/07/07 @ 09:00
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@onyxbox

I think the later 360s have much better reliability. The 65nm version is not the first version to get a lot of the problems ironed out. IIRC any systems dated after June 06 have a much healthier failure rate.
kangarootoo
13/07/07 @ 09:03
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@ccfb

8/10 is high, but not extremely so. Extreme technically means something along the lines of "furthest removed from the average".

Regardless, I think Morrowind definitely qualifies for the old "add 1 to the score if you like this sort of thing".
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13/07/07 @ 09:10
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Couldn't they fix Panzer Dragoon, it keeps locking up at level 4.
ostrasized
13/07/07 @ 09:10
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Ha. Try playing Thief III on your Xbox 360. It claims to be backwards compatible, but what's this? Oh look, every transparent particle is drawn over the top of the world.

Destroys the game, to see the glimmering candle flames and fires through the world, like you've got specific x-ray vision (but nowhere near as cool).

Unless it works perfectly it doesn't work, Microsoft - take it off your list ;-)
2099net
13/07/07 @ 09:11
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Well I was excited: Justice League Heroes and Evil Dead: Regeneration! Wow! But, sadly, neither will work on a VGA lead.

Sort it out Microsoft! Sort it out!
fiery_jackass
13/07/07 @ 09:12
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(pointless snipe)
Outrun 2 is undoubtedly top of the list? A list with PGR1 & 2?

nope.
Yossarian
13/07/07 @ 09:19
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still no BG&E :'(
SBfistfun
13/07/07 @ 09:19
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Outrun Coast to Coast was dogshit
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13/07/07 @ 09:20
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@kangarootoo:

My comment refers to the use of the word "but" instead of "and", but nevermind.

Also, lol @ "a much healthier failure rate." MS's marketting dept have nothing to fear! :)
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Singularity
13/07/07 @ 09:29
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errr Galleon? Why would you care if that worked or not ;)

Yep, 'cos it was awesome. ;P
Caimbeul
13/07/07 @ 09:29
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"Is there generally any improvement in the visuals on these things?"
There most certainly is! upscaling and Anti-Aliasing!

Outrun and Jet Set Radio Future! Yummy
TheRealBadabing
13/07/07 @ 09:30
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Anyone know if there is a list of 50hz only BC games? Tried Thief 3, Psychonauts and some other stuff and they don't play through a VGA cable because of this.
bioreit
13/07/07 @ 09:33
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So where's all the PS3 guyys who were saying "at least the software PS3 BC still gets updated, unlike the crappy old 360 one. hur hur hur."?

Come on, out you come, so I may mock thee.
krudster [mod]
13/07/07 @ 09:44
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At this point, apart from the few odds and ends I listed, most of the great Xbox exclusives are now covered off. For the multi platform stuff that doesn't work, most of them were developed for the PS2 and ported to Xbox lazily anyway, so I think I might finally be able to retire the old black box soon...
Carpathian
13/07/07 @ 09:44
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JSRF !!!! Finally !!!!!!!!

(sorry for the enthusiasm - I've been waiting for ages)

(thinks)

(actually, just remember my brick is ROD'd in a Prague repair centre so enthusiasm = 0)
DerFlange
13/07/07 @ 10:01
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Chronicles of Riddick! pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
dr_swin
13/07/07 @ 10:13
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I think it is a travesty that they have not made strangers wrath compatible. that game looked such a labour of love.
dave06
13/07/07 @ 10:13
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aw man what about metal gear solid 2 and soldier of fortune 2, i wanna play em bad. you do know there re -releasing chronicles of riddick with like 50% new game play and better graphics don't you?
Toothball
13/07/07 @ 10:18
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Outrun! So happy! I think I'll buy another copy and run link games between the Xbox and 360.
Gurgeh
13/07/07 @ 10:19
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Ahh Jet Set Radio Future. All I can say is

"Extra sugar, extra salt
Extra oil and msg"
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13/07/07 @ 10:34
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cant see them doing chronicles of riddick seeing as the rehash is coming out.
Khanivor
13/07/07 @ 10:49
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Good to see you put Voodoo Vince in amongst the titles still badly needing to be b/c. Such a fine, fine game.
neuroniky
13/07/07 @ 10:52
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Finally Outrun 2! If only my 360 wasn't dead in Germany...
Vin
13/07/07 @ 10:58
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Christ, how did they manage Morrowind?

Major props due, there.
DUFFKING
13/07/07 @ 11:08
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GIVE ME RALLISPORT CHALLENGE 2 DARNIT!
Malek86
13/07/07 @ 11:20
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JSRF! It finally works! Oh, how I longed for this moment,i it's been since my original Xbox broke down in July 2005... two years from now, how peculiar.

Some starting: JSRF works fine, even with the VGA cable (I was afraid it didn't..). Morrowind would apparently work fine, and even the GOTY Edition doesn't get the "incompatibility" message. However, I couldn't start it because it doesn't work with the VGA cable. Too bad, but I already have it for PC. What matters is that JSRF works even with VGA. Lookin' sharp, too, if a bit pixelated.
neil_likes_bums
13/07/07 @ 11:23
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\o/ OutRun 2 \o/ I knew I kept it all this time for a reason.
alasdairm
13/07/07 @ 11:24
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Mashed Fully Loaded works - its on the list as Drive to Survive - the US title

Also - Shadow Ops is not recognised and won't play at all - no major loss

Doom 3: RofE won't let me access the content download
TheStranger
13/07/07 @ 11:30
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"Morrowind ftw! \0/

Loading times haven't improved though. :("

Agreed on both counts.
Penguinzoot
13/07/07 @ 11:38
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Great news about JSR. Riddick would be nice (although unlikely suppose), but RSC2 is now my most wanted.
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13/07/07 @ 11:40
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\o/ YEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

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