PETA takes on Cooking Mama Comments by Robert Purchese

Selective breeding: Their ancestors, giant Aurochs and the like were far feistier: after we domesticated cattle we set about breeding only the ones with the traits we liked, hence the big fat docile livestock we have today :)

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No, sorry. Cows like being eaten, plain and simple. Even if they can't evolve spines or poison, they could run away, yet they make no attempt to, therefore they enjoy it.

Once again I find myself completely at odds with the opinions of 99% of the worlds 'Gamers'.

All they appear to me to be doing is using the game, something their target audience in this case are familiar with, and parodying it (VERY WELL, might I add!) as a means to get across their message.

And it's worked a treat!

All they appear to me to be doing is using the game, something their target audience in this case are familiar with, and parodying it (VERY WELL, might I add!) as a means to get across their message.

And it's worked a treat!

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When did "work[ing] a treat" and "pissing people off" become synonymous?

And it's worked a treat!

Not really. No-one has quit eating animals because of a shit flash game. If they did, they would be so stupid as to deserve being eaten.

I look forward to PETA giving us a grave desecration flash game, or a nail bomb flash game. They seem to support both of those causes too.

"That word doesn't mean what you think it means, obviously... "

It absolutly means what I think it means. Alive isn't the same as sentient.

As my mate said its stuff like this that devalues any good work they have done.

"I look forward to PETA giving us a grave desecration flash game, or a nail bomb flash game. They seem to support both of those causes too. "

Naked lefty actress game about Fur (or whatever) would also fit the bill, I'd have thought.

The flash game is fab! I'm addicted to ripping out animal organs! Yey PETA!
Now where are the levels where I can club seals, hunt whales and skin foxes?

I ate a steak last night. It was very tasty. Fuck you PETA.

Sheesh.

PETA do a lot of good work, and I agree with a lot of their manifesto, but sometimes I just wish they would think before opening their gobs.

Most people eat meat, and most receipes for main meals therefore contain meat. I've been vege on about off for yonks, but I recognise 2 crucial things;

1. I am in the minority.
2. Preaching about vegetarianism is the ONE thing most likely to cause someone else to abandon any interest in becoming a vege themselves.

PETA's hamfisted references to blood and slaughterhouses is frankly idiotic and stupid. Do you hear me PETA, I am saying whoever issued that statement is stupid and needs retraining.

PR is not easy, and PETA sometimes seem to think that strong beliefs are the most important thing. I tend to think that is you care about a cause, if you REALLY care about it, you will never let the strength of feel that you hold interfere with your ability to actually make change. ACTUALLY make change, not just preach about it, and nag, and feel good about yourself and say "Well at least I did my bit", but act in a way that helps the cause you say you represent.

Lunatic pedantic childish commentary from PETA such as this DOES NOT help animals. Like I said, I support their cause, but I don't always support them and their oft-cackhanded actions.

Cooking Mama is a mass-market game that purports to teach people how to cook (not that many people in this thread prepare their own food). PETA have an interest in reducing the amount of meat that people eat, so this game is a natural target for parody. It's not healthy to eat too much meat. I'm explaining this in short, simple sentences because most of the comments here sound like they have been left by fat wheezing 14 year olds who are unlikely to have killed any animals in their short, indoor lives.

Personally, I don't like the way PETA have made use of women in their campaigns but trying to get people to cut down on meat from factory animals seems like a better use of resources to me than any number of tiger- or whale-saving campaigns.

No, I am not a vegetarian nor have I slaughtered my own meat, etc. The comment threads here get worse all the time.

Oh god. I just played the flash game, and now I am twice as annoyed.

Blood does not come out of a dead turkey when you pluck its feathers. So what I am viewing is basically a lie... and a really obvious one at that.

It all just feels so clichey and elitist. Its like the game was made for people who ALREADY support PETA and their manifesto, so they can laugh and feel superior. It wasn't made for vegetarians who don't agree with PETA all the time, and it certainly wasn't made for meat eaters who are maybe looking for a reason to become a vegatarian.

This sort of thing really makes me angry actually, and its rare I get properly angry, very rare. It reminds me of the may day riots, where middle class white kids chuck bins through the window of McDonalds and say they are doing it in support of the starving in africa. In fact they are doing it because they are bigoted against a another group of human beings, and their actions do more harm than good to those they clame to be helping. But they do it because they cannot control their own anger.

And the same thing is happening here. When I see a game such as this, I see PETA venting its anger and slinging mud and "calling names". It really feels like nobody has sat down and asked the question "is this the best way we can apply our resources to reduce animals cruelty and promote vegetarianism".

Is it just me? Am I losing the plot? I mean, doesn't that seem to anyone else like the most f*cking obvious question, that PETA should be asking themselves every single day? And yet they come out with something like this, and I just think "You don't care enough to control yourself, to actually do what is best. You give in your anger and would rather sling mud that facilitate actual change."

Dickheads.

@wizbob

"but trying to get people to cut down on meat from factory animals"

But this is where my whole attitude hinges. SUCCEEDING is infinitely better than merely trying. "trying" is what people do to salve their own conciences, ACHIEVING is what they do if their cause is more important to them than their own feelings of worth.

I don't want to make this about you, but do you really think this latest action by PETA is going to hold water with anyone other than the already-converted?

@andywilkie35
"dunno if this has been said already (haven't got time to check) but I just wanted to say that vegetarians are shit and for every animal they don't eat, I'll eat three "

No vegeterians are not shit, I'm not a vegetarian but totally understand the perspective of those who are (vegans are fricken crazy though), PETA are mindless middle-class scum trying to drain off their middle-class guilt with allowance from Daddy and they're doing the vegetarian movement (which holds both the ethical and financial high ground - do you know just how inefficient eating meat actually is from an economic perspective?) untold damage.

On the plus side, they're prolly all vegans so will be really easy to beat up. Go get 'em veggies!

I have common ground with Kanagrootoo! :O

Fresh from their success with Samba de Amigo, now they're after Cooking Mama.

Anyone get the idea that PETA have just realised the games industry is the fountain of all of society's ills? Cooking Mama's been out for ages. What are they hoping to achieve, to get the game pulled? And does that mean they've saved an animal? Er, no.

"...but I just wanted to say that vegetarians are shit..."

Oh yeah!? You' momma! :)

I don't want to make this about you, but do you really think this latest action by PETA is going to hold water with anyone other than the already-converted?

I don't think I understand what PETA are trying to do at all. My best guess is that they're taking an extremist position to force people to choose sides, aggravate their opponents and leave the middle ground. Which is really not that different from a Bolshevik or terrorist approach.

You know, I meant sapient. I'm an idiot.

But still clevererer than PETA!

Save the sea kittens! http://www.peta.org/Sea_Kittens/about.asp

...lol

PET An animal then eat it!

@andywilkie35

"dunno if this has been said already (haven't got time to check) but I just wanted to say that vegetarians are shit and for every animal they don't eat, I'll eat three"

Dude, that doesn't even make sense. When I was vege I didn't eat animals... I didn't eat ALL animals. So for ALL the animals I didn't eat, you ate three times ALL animals?

What I can't understand is why anyone would dislike someone just because they are vegetarian. I can understand disliking someone for preaching, and I can understand disliking someone for controlling your life, but a moderate vege does neither of those things. They simply don't eat meat.

"You are shit because you don't eat meat"

Does that not seem kind of unhinged to you? Is there no irony visible to you at, who might dismiss veges as preaching their beliefs in an aggressive way?

Now I completely understand that some vegetarians are militant and annoying. But those are just militant annoying people who also HAPPEN to be vegetarians. If they weren't vege, they would still be c*nts, but they would be flying a different flag.

I know loads of veges, and not one of them preaches to meat eaters, will happily eat in the presence of people eating meat, eat in restaurants that serve meat, and so on. Maybe its just 'cos I don't hang around with annoying twats, vege or otherwise.

Dear PETA,

For every animal you save, I shall consume two.

Fuck you very much.

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WHAT?!

Save the sea kittens! http://www.peta.org/Sea_Kittens/about.asp

Oh dear...

peta is absolutely right! tell that cooking mama not to kill animals - whats wrong with that? someone has to... there was one thing i really really liked about playing fable 2: i was able to only eat vegan food and even had advantages from that (a slim good looking char)...i almost managed to have a vegan diet in fallout 3 but i had to eat one or two ants as well i must admit - otherwise i would have died but i´m not proud of it...well...and lots of booze and drugs...but for fable it worked...

That flash game is awesome! Could have been better though, the turkey was dead by the time I got to it.

This is the SAME peta that kills stray dogs?

Obviously the issue here isn't whether or not someone is vegetarian/vegan (which is a very personal decision), but whether feel the need to take the moral high-ground, regard their own opinion as the one and only true good, and thrust that upon everyone else. It is a concern if people cannot see the difference between a vegetarian/vegan, and PETA who fit very nicely into the latter. Anyone who regards vegetarians/vegans as 'shit' is just as bad as PETA - I say that as a meat-eater.

No PETA no animals are hurt, its a game see?

However 18,967,432,563 lines of code are MURDERED in order to make a single meal in Cooking Mama and I think this is what we should be complaining about as this is obviously amoral and should be stopped immediately. In fact if PETA's game is an almost straight copy think of how many lines of code that Murders everyday.
Bastards.

Wow this is pathetic
When was the last time you broke an egg and blood came out?
When was the last time you put 1g of stuffing in a turkey and it inflated 4 inches?
When was the last time you plucked a bird, thats dead, that bleed?
And when was the last time you saw a cokked turkey with visible veins sticking out of its neck?

My comments will only echo others that have gone before; PETA deserve support for what they do, but really, picking on Cooking Mama? Come off it. Next up will be how Fable II encourages animal abuse as you can kick chickens...

All the PETA bashing makes me warm and happy inside.

@mizcicz

"peta is absolutely right! tell that cooking mama not to kill animals"

Well, Cooking Mama does not kill animals for a start. It uses meat in its receipes, like pretty much every cook book out there.

"whats wrong with that?"

As I said in my previous posts, there are ways and means. I support the same causes as PETA, but their methods are frankly a bit crap at times (this is very much one of those times).

How many vegetarians do you think this game will actually create? All I am seeing in this thread is meat eaters becoming even more certain that they will continue to eat meat. Is that really what PETA were hopinh to achieve? Did they even think about what it was they wanted to achieve?

@kangorootoo: that´s exactly the problem you mention here...of course EVERY cooking mama who prepares meat kills animals, or paid someone to do that bloody business for her. what do you think a steak was before becoming a steak...i give you a hint. it was not a suitcase...you just did not make the connection there (or do not want to)...thats the problem and thats what peta is trying to sell...making a link from the food on your plate that seems to be just some food - to the living, breathing animal it once was..and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion. peta uses a strange ´style´ to get PR sometimes. thats correct. but on the other hand people just seem to ´tick´like that and it works...in the end their efforts still have a good purpose...and i really do believe that small things can really make a change (a vegetarian cooking mama will help a little, a vegan diet in fable 2 for gaining good karma...it´s a start to make people think...nothing more - nothing less)...sorry for bad english i´m not native english speaking

@mizcicz

"and i really do believe that small things can really make a change"

Tbh I really think we agree for the most part. Little things do make a difference, and a vege cooking mama might also be a good thing. I just don't think PETA have made that a more likely outcome with their actions here (but I think we probably agree on that too).

"sorry for bad english i´m not native english speaking"

Hey, don't apologise. You write a better paragraph than some of the native english speakers on here, and you points were quite clear.