PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer

Back from injury.

You have to feel for Konami. Even when it was the critics' favourite football game, Pro Evolution Soccer was still the plucky underdog - the Havant and Waterlooville of the games industry's FA Cup third round, scoring a couple of goals in front of the Kop and leaving with its head held high, even after getting pasted in the salesy second half. But things change, and they certainly have. PES 2009 was by no means a bad game, but its angular, sped-up one-dimensionality felt like a throwback next to the increased realism of EA's improving FIFA series, and the world gave it the hairdryer treatment. Back to the drawing board?

Our first, brief hands-on may not have suggested as much on the surface, but by the typically conservative standards of the PES series, the new Team Style and Player Card systems, not to mention the expanded range of directional control, were and are blue-sky, helicopter thinking. They've even removed the forcefield around throw-ins, allowing you to jostle and compete in a more natural manner. Imagine! Extended play on near-finished builds of the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions suggests these changes make a big difference. But all the same, the boys at EA Canada are anything but complacent. Will it be enough?

'PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer' Screenshot 1

We love preview code. In the one we've got the players' shorts flap in the wind at insane speed. It's mesmerising. Goalkeepers are very slow to take goal kicks, too.

We won't be able to answer that for a while, but in the meantime we can give you a better sense of how Konami's revisions stack up. On the pitch, the developer is touting something akin to FIFA 10's 360-degree directional control, which would be about 45 times better than PES 2009's (or whatever 360 divided by eight actually is). In practice it doesn't feel as though you get that many degrees of response from the analogue stick when dribbling or playing the ball, but there's no denying that it's a dramatic departure from the fixed lines and diagonals of the past, and much closer to the effect achieved by EA Canada with last year's FIFA.

The vastly improved graphics engine helps here too, restoring humanity to the faces of the players thanks to something as simple as realistic lighting, and expanding the diversity and nature of animations considerably to accommodate the freer range of movement. There are still some work-in-progress horror shows (stand up Adebayor - actually, better sit back down again), but most players are suitably recognisable, and animations continue to reflect distinctive running and movement styles - one of PES' historical strengths. Overall the improvement is considerable, and 2009 is almost unrecognisable in contrast.

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The final game will also allow you to manually request the ball when running into space alongside a team-mate.

With the pace more measured, PES has crept back up from an abstract game derived from football to something more directly resembling what we see on TV. A lot of the little flicks and feints that used to require complex contortions of various sticks and button combos are now performed in-line too, and prove easier to commit to muscle memory. The result is a strong footballing foundation that respects intelligent use of space and tactical imagination on the pitch, and makes for a more deliberate, precarious feeling in control, punishing slips and spillages swiftly but seldom falling into predictable patterns.

Elsewhere Konami has tightened the AI, particularly goalkeepers, who can't be rounded so easily, with manual control returning for them as well. Keepers can also be unsighted, which helps you make more of free kicks and players with an aptitude for long-range drives. The overall first impression is that PES 2010 plays out like FIFA 09 without the bias towards pacy attackers, making for tight, competitive multiplayer matches.

Potentially just as worthy of applause is the increased transparency off the pitch, with a number of structural changes that allow you to understand and adjust players, positions and tactics without the need for laborious trial-and-error. Player Cards are individual characteristics, some of which highlight strengths such as reactions, touch and particular types of turn, while active cards can be switched on or off, or between several settings. Every player has a card for changing their attitude between defence-minded, attack-minded and balanced, but some of the better ones have adjustable specialties. Frank Lampard has a long-range shot toggle, for instance, which sees him moving into better positions to line himself up, while Luca Toni has a fox-in-the-box card and others can be encouraged to poach and set themselves for eye-of-a-needle passes. You ultimately need to step up to take advantage of their skills, but the cards work to help you.

Player Cards may be the most eye-catching element of the new PES - the kind of trademarkable bullet-point concept more typically associated with the old EA Sports - but Team Style is arguably the more broadly impactful, allowing you to fine-tune things like a team's compactness, how much support the team provides players advancing into the opposition half, the style of your defensive line and whether players will instinctively swap positions to mix it up. Superficially similar to FIFA's Custom Tactics, Team Style allows you to transform a team's behaviour in concert with the Player Cards, and this is likely to ease progress considerably when you're forced to withstand assaults from tougher teams by pressing harder and holding your ground in possession, for instance.

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Online isn't something we can test right now, but having ditched Konami ID, the company's representatives are promising a significant change.

One of the quirks of our preview version is that a lot of the line-ups and formations have yet to be calibrated for release, so you fire up almost any team and discover players wildly out of position. This will be fixed by the time you can buy the game, but in the meantime it helps to highlight another significant change - the loss of the occasionally ambiguous skill pentagon in favour of a 1-100 player rating more akin, again, to FIFA. Individual players have a peak potential rating - Buffon is 95, for instance - but if you put them in a role they're not comfortable with, that drops off, so it's important to keep an eye on their preferred positions, highlighted on the same screen.

All of this is likely to help you back into the revitalised Master League, where there's a new Youth Team section for managing younger players and fast-tracking the best. Konami reckons the new menus should be easier for players to deal with, despite the volume of new options for things like sponsorship negotiations. Veterans of the Master League system may also be pleased to hear that you can qualify for and take part in the Europa League and Champions League, forcing you to deal with fixture congestion and other issues, although we didn't get that far during a week of testing (mostly because of my bitter, ongoing feud with the Eurogamer Expo's Tom Champion).

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The menus and music are still, er, an acquired taste, but you'll have a lot of fun on this one, the Team Style page.

For all the game's seeming improvements, however, Konami must know that it has work to do to win back the core fans who finally took the plunge on FIFA last year, and PES 2010 will struggle to do so in one swoop no matter how much it reduces the quality gap. After a week at the controls, PES 2010 appears to play a game much closer to FIFA 09, with less of the latter's polish but a more quantifiable relationship between decisions on and off the pitch. However it stacks up in the final reckoning though, there's no question Konami has turned sharply away from the cul-de-sac into which the series appeared to be disappearing last year, and if nothing else PES 2010 looks like it will serve as a decent manifesto for the Japanese developer's future plans. The difficult question is whether it will be enough to see off EA Canada's own efforts, which we'll be considering in a thorough hands-on with a near-finished build tomorrow.

Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 is due out for PC, PS2, PS3, PSP, Wii and Xbox 360 this autumn.

Comments (54) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • TheHammerite #1 3 years ago

    First!

    Hope this beats fifa this year
  • Skoptsie #2 3 years ago

    Has the demo for this been given a date yet, assuming there's going to be one at all?
  • DrJarak #3 3 years ago

    Its like hoping an old friend sorts themselves out if they've gone off the rails...c'mon PES2010 you can do it ;)
  • BM #4 3 years ago

    Can you confirm that 360 movement is for PS3 only? Just read about this on PESFan, shocking if it's true.
  • wizlon #5 3 years ago

    why, at the bottom of the article, does it say "Are you excited about FIFA 10 on Xbox 360? " is this some kind of trap?
  • andywilkie35 #6 3 years ago

    This year I've got FIFA2010 on preorder - this'll be the first time I buy a FIFA game since FIFA2000. Pro's been going downhill for years, if this has indeed improved however then I might just pick up both...
  • TheHammerite #7 3 years ago

    Fifa has the presentation, PES has the gameplay
  • Darren #8 3 years ago

    @wizlon - It wouldn't be EG without at least one mistake per article! ;)
  • Darren #9 3 years ago

    Hahaha... clicking on one of the article screenshots take you a gallery that is called NHL 10 and has a mixture of PES 2010 and NHL 10 screenshots!!! Or are those Madden NHL 10 screenshots, EG? ;)
  • Zomoniac #10 3 years ago

    So the article basically says "this year all PES's improvements have been lifted straight from FIFA"? How times have entertainingly changed. Interesting preview, given the trailer demonstrated that the tactics didn't work at all (showed arrows demonstrating where players would move as soon as he unpaused it, and every time they failed to do what they were supposed to), and from the trailer it looked like the lock-on 8-way rails running and PS1 animations were still there. Have you been playing a much newer build?
  • Zomoniac #11 3 years ago

    Fifa has the presentation, PES has the gameplay

    Perhaps this year (though I doubt it), but based on the 2009 games FIFA has everything and PES has nothing.
  • Aretak #12 3 years ago

    "Fifa has the presentation, PES has the gameplay"

    I imagine you on the floor in the foetal position, rocking slowly backwards and forwards whilst repeating this mantra.
  • ILOVEU #13 3 years ago

    So its still crap then? I mean I'm sorry but I've seen nothing there that suggests Pro Evo has done enough to narrow the increasing gulf in quality between this and Fifa. Oh at lets at this stage point out I used to be a Pro Evo fan, but after years of sloppy updates that have barely improved, infact in many ways even been worse than older versions I can't stand the game. Good on EA for finally putting Barely Evolved Soccer where it belongs.

    Look at the quality (and mainly money) that Konami put into their other games namely Metal Gear ($70million), why aren't they spending huge sums of money to get this back on track? Why aren't I seeing radical improvements in graphics and gameplay-not just another minor whitewash of the same stinking rotten collapsing house? They should totally scrap the old engine and build a true next gen game from scratch with totally new controls, that actually takes football games to a new level.

    I'm sick of the gaming press that all seem to be Pro Evo fanboys and just can't accept their pet game has stunk for years. I'm sick of hearing the old tired line of people talking like Konami are a small litte cottage industry next to EA's corporate machine. Konami are just as much a Multi National as EA are. They don't spend the cash on this game because when it still sells over a million copies in Europe alone why should they. Lazy, lazy Konami.
  • El-Dev #14 3 years ago

    Anyone notice on the PES2010 ad to the right that Messi is wearing a number 9 on the back of his shirt, most likely 19, yet he changed to number 10 last season. Pes is behind the times in every way. He's also had a haircut.
    Edited by 2 at 17/08/09 @ 11:32
  • dpb135 #15 3 years ago

    So its builidng up to be like fifa 09 last year while fifa 10 has moved on again.....oh how i miss the PES ps2 games, all gone pete tong on current gen
  • stevetuck #16 3 years ago

    AY MATE, FEEEERNANDO TORRES, HES A LASTA

    BBC adverts ftw!
  • TheMoonRat #17 3 years ago

  • Mortey #18 3 years ago

    Torres???? I thought this was Eurogamer and in that case by law any football related story must include a Villa player....

    Although judging by the weekends performance the picture probably tripped over on itself on the way to the scanner!

    Oh and the game, bugger PES 2009 just give me ISS '98 still the best footy game ever!
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/09 @ 11:06
  • KrissAkabusi #19 3 years ago

    @MiniAmin

    No way have you ever had one girlfriend let alone two on the evidence of that little diatribe of yours.
  • skillian #20 3 years ago

    Torres???? I thought this was Eurogamer and in that case by law any football related story must include a Villa player....

    It always used to be "People's Hero Peter Crouch", but now he's moved to a decent side :p
  • NotSoSlim #21 3 years ago

    @ El-Dev

    In game pic Messi is number 10
  • El-Dev #22 3 years ago

    NotSoSlim, it's still an old picture of him on the advert.
  • Tomo #23 3 years ago

    "The difficult question is whether it will be enough to see off EA Canada's own efforts, which we'll be considering in a thorough hands-on with a near-finished build tomo"

    Wow, an entire sentence dedicated just to me. Thanks!

    But seriously, I'm not convinced again after reading this. Proof is in the firmly lodged in the pudding with this one.
  • Lionheart #24 3 years ago

    His armband proved he was a red Torres Torres
    You'll never walk alone it said Torres Torres
    We got the lad from sunny Spain, he'll get the ball, he'll score again
    Fer-nan-do Torr-es Liverpool's number 9!!!
  • MiniAmin #25 3 years ago

    @ KrissAkabusi

    I wasn't serious. Fair enough if you thought it was a poor, facetious attempt at allegory (it was). But don't call it a diatribe. There was nothing misogynous about that post. If you think there was, point it out to me and i'll be happy to edit/delete as required.
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/09 @ 11:45
  • JensonJet #26 3 years ago

    This year will be my first without a Pro Evo. Not that I'm fed up with the laziest developer in history giving away just enough of an update to bearly warrant a new game. No. Later this year, and early next there are enough games coming that are likely to keep me busy for a long time. So I'll save a bit of money, or more importantly end up spending it on another game instead of paying my 'Konami-tax' this year.
  • Mortey #27 3 years ago

    It always used to be "People's Hero Peter Crouch", but now he's moved to a decent side :p

    I thought he had left Portsmouth....... :p
  • Eurolamer #28 3 years ago

    He's a Spud now, hence he's now irrelevant.
  • Burkey123 #29 3 years ago

    After playing both Fifa and Pro Evo last year, I've decided not to buy any footy game this year. They have gone downhill since 2005. Pro Evo 5 will always be the best imo. What a game!
  • KrissAkabusi #30 3 years ago

    @MiniAmin

    The last few lines certainly make it sound like you think women should be running around after your sorry ass, but I accept if it is merely an offset of a very poor allegory.
  • solidSnake04 #31 3 years ago

    here we go again PES. The thing is we all know how much of a good game PES can be if konami doesn't screw it up. But only a fool can even imagine that in this iteration PES will be miles better than FIFA, like in the years gone. I bought PES2009, only to realize i was going nowhere with it and traded it with FIFA a couple of days later...But there's hope you know...
  • M_of_the_sys #32 3 years ago

    Too true Burkey123.
  • El-Dev #33 3 years ago

  • MiniAmin #34 3 years ago

    @ KrissAkabusi

    It wasn't necessary to call me a "sorry ass". I deleted the post because you took offence at my poor attempt to make a joke. By deleting that post, order has been restored in "La Mancha" the magical land where you and other white knights* enforce your protection of vulnerable internet women and their concomitant honour. Hypersensitive idiot.

    ** http://ww w.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...
  • Zebula77 #35 3 years ago

    I'm still playing PES09 and loving that, but I seriously hope this year's version will revitalize the series. No doubt that this has to happen, since the series has stagnated as of the last two titles.

    I still love you PES, but you're gonna have to impress me this time. :p

    looking forward to the demo (1st of October perhaps?)
  • theiceman #36 3 years ago

    PES 5 was and is the best pes since ISS98. I was caught in the hype and got PES09. What a load of rubbish, and i for one will not buy another PES this decade. Besides i won't have the time with MW2 this year!
  • frycrayola #37 3 years ago

    What the deuce? Why get rid of the skills pentagon? An overall rating gives you one piece of information about a player - how good he is. The pentagon gave you five easy to access pieces of very useful information, and coupled that with not being so numerically precise that often you used your own judgement regarding who was the better player, based on what he actually did for you on the pitch.

    On FIFA, trying to find out what type of player someone is becomes a chore. "Is he strong? Quick? Dangerous? Solid at the back? Hang on, I'll just scroll through this list of pointlessly meticulate attributes until I find out."

    Even stat-happy FM uses a polygon these days, and I'm not referring to its match engine.
  • Synthesis #38 3 years ago

    I don't want Pro Evo to play like FIFA anything, I want it to play like Pro Evo, that's why it's so good.
  • Paulie_P #39 3 years ago

    Everybody says FIFA has better presentation. I don't like it to be honest - I think its too busy and in your face.
  • Lemming81 #40 3 years ago

    It's been a while since I've played a Pro Evo game. Have they got proper player and team names yet?
  • chiz #41 3 years ago

    No matter how good the game is, if they don't fix their abysmal netcode, the series is doomed.
  • WillyWanka #42 3 years ago

    marronthered, I resent that. Nothing beats a cheeky bit of J-pop!
  • Rodchenko #43 3 years ago

    I like the new graphics and based on the first vids I have the feeling they increased the pitch size (good, if true). PES has also been pretty much unmatched in player likenesses and overall physiognomy. But after 3 very forgettable years, especially the arcadey BS that was last year's 'effort', I am still skeptical of going back. At the core, it'll still be a repackaging of a 10 year old engine with all its quirks and shortcomings, no matter what fancy shite they are coming up with. Player cards... wtf?
  • MinerWilly #44 3 years ago

    Always been a PES fan since international superstar soccer on the SNES but I decided FIFA 09 was better last year and anyway this sounds promising . I wont be getting FIFA 10 (why bother when FIFA 09 plays such a good game) . So i could be up for this iteration of PES depending on reviews .
  • Power_n_Glory #45 3 years ago

    Look how the tide has changed. Now Konami are copying Fifa. Last year it was the Be A Pro mode, now it's the 360 degree dribbling and custom tactics. I won't touch another Pro Evo. Konami were taking liberties for years. The gameplay was always solid but they couldn't be bothered to improve the Master League, online play or anything else. They are lazy and never put a full years work into a game.

    Tarting up the menus and swapping the special ability star stat for some card system isn't going to cut it. They should have added real currency to the Master League years ago, should have added more features to the Master League years ago and they should have been pushing the gameplay and online features. They've stood still and now they're on the ropes.

    Even if they match Fifa's gameplay innovations, they've still got a long way to go with the online modes. Fifa has Ultimate Team mode, 10 v 10 Be A pro mode, Club games, Interactive League games, Addidas Live Season update...all innovations added in the past two years. What the hell has Konami be doing all this time?
  • davey_wells #46 3 years ago

    Only the PES series can 'get away' with having 3 awful years and still give people hope that things will be OK this time round.

    As far as I'm concerned, the Pro Evo series at its best (which for me is either ISS Pro Evolution 2 on the PS1 or Pro Evo 4 on the Xbox) exceeds how good Fifa 09 is, and I really like Fifa 09. But its still not quite right.

    Its too floaty, shots don't feel right, by default you end up scoring goals in the same ways, crossing still feels a bit wrong at times, hitting the woodwork doesn't feel right, all the players look quite good but not good enough and no way of editing them... I could go on, but I'm just listing things that PES seems to get right.

    PES-love is in the blood. Its like a woman who you used to love like crazy, who went a bit ropey and treated you like crap (but always had 'that certain something'), and then they've come out of rehab and are potentially back to their best. Or at least I hope it is. It could all be a massive mess still.

    One thing is essential though for me to like PES2010 - an excellent editor.
  • EuroStalker #47 3 years ago

    ^ Agreed. FIFA has improved big time but the shots feel floaty. It just doesn't play right.

    I hope PES2010 has enough changes to warrant a purchase. I didn't bother buying last years version. Give it a miss for one year.
  • freedumb #48 3 years ago

    I think Konami are entitled to pinch a few ideas from EA after years and years of EA doing the same from them, I could name a huge huge list of stuff taken from pes over the years.

    Even BAP is from PES, Fifa copied Winning Eleven's Fantastista mode in the Japanese version, then they took it online. Fantastista came out the summer before Fifa 08, then lo and behold EA add 5v5 BAP as DLC content, missing the release because they hadn't planned for it until they saw Konami's game.
  • frycrayola #49 3 years ago

    Freedumb, the Be A Pro mode was already in the game. EA just added 5v5 online support to the existing single player, single match offering.

    Which is not to say that either game was the first to offer the ability to play as just one player (whether in the game, or for a career), or that such an elementary option should ever be considered the subject of theft. It's football, the idea of playing a match as just one player is pretty straightforward.
  • KrissAkabusi #50 3 years ago

    @MiniAmin

    You totally missed my point. I was saying you have never had a girlfriend, that's not the same as being an internet white knight. Seems to be you that's the idiot.
  • OnlyMe #51 3 years ago

    Well, I personally don't mind having two great football games in the same year. I will probably pick up the first that comes out, and then dip in for the other game later when I want something new. That said, PES2010 more like FIFA09 is a good thing, if it still feels like a PES game - 'cause that's the only thing that was missing from FIFA 09 in my opinion.
  • Master09 #52 3 years ago

    Konami seems to have listened to the fans. PES2010 looks set to take back it's throne as the king of football. Manual goalkeepers, more indepth ML, slower paced game, harder to dribble, 360 movement. Sweet! Not disappointed about the graphics not being par with FIFA 09. PES has always had inferior graphics to FIFA. Its all about gameplay. Can't wait for Gamescon where Konami will announce the release date and hopefully the demo too.
  • MiniAmin #53 3 years ago

    @ KrissAkabusi

    I don't see why it matters if I've had a girlfriend or not. "Davey Wells" posted a much better analogy than mine anyway.

    I apologise for calling you an idiot.
  • KrissAkabusi #54 3 years ago

    Apology accepted Mini.