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PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer Hands On

Xbox 360 PlayStation 2 PlayStation 3 Hands On by Tom Bramwell

17 August, 2009

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You have to feel for Konami. Even when it was the critics' favourite football game, Pro Evolution Soccer was still the plucky underdog - the Havant and Waterlooville of the games industry's FA Cup third round, scoring a couple of goals in front of the Kop and leaving with its head held high, even after getting pasted in the salesy second half. But things change, and they certainly have. PES 2009 was by no means a bad game, but its angular, sped-up one-dimensionality felt like a throwback next to the increased realism of EA's improving FIFA series, and the world gave it the hairdryer treatment. Back to the drawing board?

Our first, brief hands-on may not have suggested as much on the surface, but by the typically conservative standards of the PES series, the new Team Style and Player Card systems, not to mention the expanded range of directional control, were and are blue-sky, helicopter thinking. They've even removed the forcefield around throw-ins, allowing you to jostle and compete in a more natural manner. Imagine! Extended play on near-finished builds of the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions suggests these changes make a big difference. But all the same, the boys at EA Canada are anything but complacent. Will it be enough?

'PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer' Screenshot 1

We love preview code. In the one we've got the players' shorts flap in the wind at insane speed. It's mesmerising. Goalkeepers are very slow to take goal kicks, too.

We won't be able to answer that for a while, but in the meantime we can give you a better sense of how Konami's revisions stack up. On the pitch, the developer is touting something akin to FIFA 10's 360-degree directional control, which would be about 45 times better than PES 2009's (or whatever 360 divided by eight actually is). In practice it doesn't feel as though you get that many degrees of response from the analogue stick when dribbling or playing the ball, but there's no denying that it's a dramatic departure from the fixed lines and diagonals of the past, and much closer to the effect achieved by EA Canada with last year's FIFA.

The vastly improved graphics engine helps here too, restoring humanity to the faces of the players thanks to something as simple as realistic lighting, and expanding the diversity and nature of animations considerably to accommodate the freer range of movement. There are still some work-in-progress horror shows (stand up Adebayor - actually, better sit back down again), but most players are suitably recognisable, and animations continue to reflect distinctive running and movement styles - one of PES' historical strengths. Overall the improvement is considerable, and 2009 is almost unrecognisable in contrast.

'PES 2010: Pro Evolution Soccer' Screenshot 2

The final game will also allow you to manually request the ball when running into space alongside a team-mate.

With the pace more measured, PES has crept back up from an abstract game derived from football to something more directly resembling what we see on TV. A lot of the little flicks and feints that used to require complex contortions of various sticks and button combos are now performed in-line too, and prove easier to commit to muscle memory. The result is a strong footballing foundation that respects intelligent use of space and tactical imagination on the pitch, and makes for a more deliberate, precarious feeling in control, punishing slips and spillages swiftly but seldom falling into predictable patterns.

Elsewhere Konami has tightened the AI, particularly goalkeepers, who can't be rounded so easily, with manual control returning for them as well. Keepers can also be unsighted, which helps you make more of free kicks and players with an aptitude for long-range drives. The overall first impression is that PES 2010 plays out like FIFA 09 without the bias towards pacy attackers, making for tight, competitive multiplayer matches.

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Skoptsie
17/08/09 @ 09:15
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Has the demo for this been given a date yet, assuming there's going to be one at all?
DrJarak
17/08/09 @ 09:15
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Its like hoping an old friend sorts themselves out if they've gone off the rails...c'mon PES2010 you can do it ;)
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17/08/09 @ 09:19
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Can you confirm that 360 movement is for PS3 only? Just read about this on PESFan, shocking if it's true.
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17/08/09 @ 09:19
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why, at the bottom of the article, does it say "Are you excited about FIFA 10 on Xbox 360? " is this some kind of trap?
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17/08/09 @ 09:20
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This year I've got FIFA2010 on preorder - this'll be the first time I buy a FIFA game since FIFA2000. Pro's been going downhill for years, if this has indeed improved however then I might just pick up both...
Darren
17/08/09 @ 09:28
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@wizlon - It wouldn't be EG without at least one mistake per article! ;)
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17/08/09 @ 09:35
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Hahaha... clicking on one of the article screenshots take you a gallery that is called NHL 10 and has a mixture of PES 2010 and NHL 10 screenshots!!! Or are those Madden NHL 10 screenshots, EG? ;)
Zomoniac
17/08/09 @ 09:35
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So the article basically says "this year all PES's improvements have been lifted straight from FIFA"? How times have entertainingly changed. Interesting preview, given the trailer demonstrated that the tactics didn't work at all (showed arrows demonstrating where players would move as soon as he unpaused it, and every time they failed to do what they were supposed to), and from the trailer it looked like the lock-on 8-way rails running and PS1 animations were still there. Have you been playing a much newer build?
Zomoniac
17/08/09 @ 09:36
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Fifa has the presentation, PES has the gameplay

Perhaps this year (though I doubt it), but based on the 2009 games FIFA has everything and PES has nothing.
Aretak
17/08/09 @ 09:36
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"Fifa has the presentation, PES has the gameplay"

I imagine you on the floor in the foetal position, rocking slowly backwards and forwards whilst repeating this mantra.
ILOVEU
17/08/09 @ 09:37
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So its still crap then? I mean I'm sorry but I've seen nothing there that suggests Pro Evo has done enough to narrow the increasing gulf in quality between this and Fifa. Oh at lets at this stage point out I used to be a Pro Evo fan, but after years of sloppy updates that have barely improved, infact in many ways even been worse than older versions I can't stand the game. Good on EA for finally putting Barely Evolved Soccer where it belongs.

Look at the quality (and mainly money) that Konami put into their other games namely Metal Gear ($70million), why aren't they spending huge sums of money to get this back on track? Why aren't I seeing radical improvements in graphics and gameplay-not just another minor whitewash of the same stinking rotten collapsing house? They should totally scrap the old engine and build a true next gen game from scratch with totally new controls, that actually takes football games to a new level.

I'm sick of the gaming press that all seem to be Pro Evo fanboys and just can't accept their pet game has stunk for years. I'm sick of hearing the old tired line of people talking like Konami are a small litte cottage industry next to EA's corporate machine. Konami are just as much a Multi National as EA are. They don't spend the cash on this game because when it still sells over a million copies in Europe alone why should they. Lazy, lazy Konami.
donnie080208
17/08/09 @ 09:39
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dont understand why pes2009 was given such a hard time while fifa was regarded as the second coming.i prefered pes09 larger players, arcadey faster gameplay than fifas more measured affair.the only area i think that needs improving this year are the graphics and the net code but ill always take pes gameplay over fifas polish anyday
dpb135
17/08/09 @ 09:49
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So its builidng up to be like fifa 09 last year while fifa 10 has moved on again.....oh how i miss the PES ps2 games, all gone pete tong on current gen
stevetuck
17/08/09 @ 09:55
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AY MATE, FEEEERNANDO TORRES, HES A LASTA

BBC adverts ftw!
TheMoonRat
17/08/09 @ 09:59
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fix. the. netcode
Mortey
17/08/09 @ 10:05
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Torres???? I thought this was Eurogamer and in that case by law any football related story must include a Villa player....

Although judging by the weekends performance the picture probably tripped over on itself on the way to the scanner!

Oh and the game, bugger PES 2009 just give me ISS '98 still the best footy game ever!
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KrissAkabusi
17/08/09 @ 10:17
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@MiniAmin

No way have you ever had one girlfriend let alone two on the evidence of that little diatribe of yours.
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17/08/09 @ 10:19
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Torres???? I thought this was Eurogamer and in that case by law any football related story must include a Villa player....

It always used to be "People's Hero Peter Crouch", but now he's moved to a decent side :P
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17/08/09 @ 10:20
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@ El-Dev

In game pic Messi is number 10
El-Dev
17/08/09 @ 10:32
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NotSoSlim, it's still an old picture of him on the advert.
Tomo
17/08/09 @ 10:33
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"The difficult question is whether it will be enough to see off EA Canada's own efforts, which we'll be considering in a thorough hands-on with a near-finished build tomo"

Wow, an entire sentence dedicated just to me. Thanks!

But seriously, I'm not convinced again after reading this. Proof is in the firmly lodged in the pudding with this one.
Lionheart
17/08/09 @ 10:40
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His armband proved he was a red Torres Torres
You'll never walk alone it said Torres Torres
We got the lad from sunny Spain, he'll get the ball, he'll score again
Fer-nan-do Torr-es Liverpool's number 9!!!
MiniAmin
17/08/09 @ 10:44
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@ KrissAkabusi

I wasn't serious. Fair enough if you thought it was a poor, facetious attempt at allegory (it was). But don't call it a diatribe. There was nothing misogynous about that post. If you think there was, point it out to me and i'll be happy to edit/delete as required.
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JensonJet
17/08/09 @ 10:51
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This year will be my first without a Pro Evo. Not that I'm fed up with the laziest developer in history giving away just enough of an update to bearly warrant a new game. No. Later this year, and early next there are enough games coming that are likely to keep me busy for a long time. So I'll save a bit of money, or more importantly end up spending it on another game instead of paying my 'Konami-tax' this year.
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17/08/09 @ 10:53
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It always used to be "People's Hero Peter Crouch", but now he's moved to a decent side :P

I thought he had left Portsmouth....... :p
Eurolamer
17/08/09 @ 10:57
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He's a Spud now, hence he's now irrelevant.
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17/08/09 @ 11:02
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After playing both Fifa and Pro Evo last year, I've decided not to buy any footy game this year. They have gone downhill since 2005. Pro Evo 5 will always be the best imo. What a game!
KrissAkabusi
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@MiniAmin

The last few lines certainly make it sound like you think women should be running around after your sorry ass, but I accept if it is merely an offset of a very poor allegory.
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17/08/09 @ 11:15
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here we go again PES. The thing is we all know how much of a good game PES can be if konami doesn't screw it up. But only a fool can even imagine that in this iteration PES will be miles better than FIFA, like in the years gone. I bought PES2009, only to realize i was going nowhere with it and traded it with FIFA a couple of days later...But there's hope you know...
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Too true Burkey123.
El-Dev
17/08/09 @ 11:27
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Some good has come out of PES for this gen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVLFqlhGos
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@ KrissAkabusi

It wasn't necessary to call me a "sorry ass". I deleted the post because you took offence at my poor attempt to make a joke. By deleting that post, order has been restored in "La Mancha" the magical land where you and other white knights* enforce your protection of vulnerable internet women and their concomitant honour. Hypersensitive idiot.

** http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.ph...
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17/08/09 @ 11:57
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I'm still playing PES09 and loving that, but I seriously hope this year's version will revitalize the series. No doubt that this has to happen, since the series has stagnated as of the last two titles.

I still love you PES, but you're gonna have to impress me this time. :P

looking forward to the demo (1st of October perhaps?)
theiceman
17/08/09 @ 12:12
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PES 5 was and is the best pes since ISS98. I was caught in the hype and got PES09. What a load of rubbish, and i for one will not buy another PES this decade. Besides i won't have the time with MW2 this year!
frycrayola
17/08/09 @ 12:23
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What the deuce? Why get rid of the skills pentagon? An overall rating gives you one piece of information about a player - how good he is. The pentagon gave you five easy to access pieces of very useful information, and coupled that with not being so numerically precise that often you used your own judgement regarding who was the better player, based on what he actually did for you on the pitch.

On FIFA, trying to find out what type of player someone is becomes a chore. "Is he strong? Quick? Dangerous? Solid at the back? Hang on, I'll just scroll through this list of pointlessly meticulate attributes until I find out."

Even stat-happy FM uses a polygon these days, and I'm not referring to its match engine.
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17/08/09 @ 12:29
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I don't want Pro Evo to play like FIFA anything, I want it to play like Pro Evo, that's why it's so good.
Paulie_P
17/08/09 @ 12:41
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Everybody says FIFA has better presentation. I don't like it to be honest - I think its too busy and in your face.
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17/08/09 @ 13:06
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It's been a while since I've played a Pro Evo game. Have they got proper player and team names yet?
chiz
17/08/09 @ 13:51
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No matter how good the game is, if they don't fix their abysmal netcode, the series is doomed.
marronthered
17/08/09 @ 14:54
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sort out the cheesy menu music, dont go down the brash fifa road though konami.
WillyWanka
17/08/09 @ 16:19
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marronthered, I resent that. Nothing beats a cheeky bit of J-pop!
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17/08/09 @ 16:28
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I like the new graphics and based on the first vids I have the feeling they increased the pitch size (good, if true). PES has also been pretty much unmatched in player likenesses and overall physiognomy. But after 3 very forgettable years, especially the arcadey BS that was last year's 'effort', I am still skeptical of going back. At the core, it'll still be a repackaging of a 10 year old engine with all its quirks and shortcomings, no matter what fancy shite they are coming up with. Player cards... wtf?
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17/08/09 @ 18:20
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Always been a PES fan since international superstar soccer on the SNES but I decided FIFA 09 was better last year and anyway this sounds promising . I wont be getting FIFA 10 (why bother when FIFA 09 plays such a good game) . So i could be up for this iteration of PES depending on reviews .
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17/08/09 @ 18:39
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Look how the tide has changed. Now Konami are copying Fifa. Last year it was the Be A Pro mode, now it's the 360 degree dribbling and custom tactics. I won't touch another Pro Evo. Konami were taking liberties for years. The gameplay was always solid but they couldn't be bothered to improve the Master League, online play or anything else. They are lazy and never put a full years work into a game.

Tarting up the menus and swapping the special ability star stat for some card system isn't going to cut it. They should have added real currency to the Master League years ago, should have added more features to the Master League years ago and they should have been pushing the gameplay and online features. They've stood still and now they're on the ropes.

Even if they match Fifa's gameplay innovations, they've still got a long way to go with the online modes. Fifa has Ultimate Team mode, 10 v 10 Be A pro mode, Club games, Interactive League games, Addidas Live Season update...all innovations added in the past two years. What the hell has Konami be doing all this time?
davey_wells
17/08/09 @ 19:57
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Only the PES series can 'get away' with having 3 awful years and still give people hope that things will be OK this time round.

As far as I'm concerned, the Pro Evo series at its best (which for me is either ISS Pro Evolution 2 on the PS1 or Pro Evo 4 on the Xbox) exceeds how good Fifa 09 is, and I really like Fifa 09. But its still not quite right.

Its too floaty, shots don't feel right, by default you end up scoring goals in the same ways, crossing still feels a bit wrong at times, hitting the woodwork doesn't feel right, all the players look quite good but not good enough and no way of editing them... I could go on, but I'm just listing things that PES seems to get right.

PES-love is in the blood. Its like a woman who you used to love like crazy, who went a bit ropey and treated you like crap (but always had 'that certain something'), and then they've come out of rehab and are potentially back to their best. Or at least I hope it is. It could all be a massive mess still.

One thing is essential though for me to like PES2010 - an excellent editor.
EuroStalker
17/08/09 @ 20:55
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^ Agreed. FIFA has improved big time but the shots feel floaty. It just doesn't play right.

I hope PES2010 has enough changes to warrant a purchase. I didn't bother buying last years version. Give it a miss for one year.
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17/08/09 @ 21:53
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I think Konami are entitled to pinch a few ideas from EA after years and years of EA doing the same from them, I could name a huge huge list of stuff taken from pes over the years.

Even BAP is from PES, Fifa copied Winning Eleven's Fantastista mode in the Japanese version, then they took it online. Fantastista came out the summer before Fifa 08, then lo and behold EA add 5v5 BAP as DLC content, missing the release because they hadn't planned for it until they saw Konami's game.

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