PES 2010 demo now on Live, PSN
PC sampler out there as well.
Konami has thumped a PES 2010 demo onto the PlayStation Store and Xbox Live Marketplace.
There's a PC sampler, too, that can be found on the Gaming Access site.
The demo offers a taste of both single- and multiplayer, plus a chance to put the tactical sliders and settings into use.
And with public demos of both FIFA 10 and PES 2010 available, the Eurogamer forum is predictably ablaze with opinion. Join in. They're a welcoming bunch.
PES 2010 arrives on 23rd October for PC, PS3 and Xbox 360.
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Also, is it just me or is PES2010 a lot easier than FIFA on the hardest difficulty setting?
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Cant really say much has changed. Seems like another lazy effort. Will we ever have another PES3!!
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Ibrahimovic is at Barca though...how do Konami work?
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its just not on the front page
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Year after year after year Fifa was in the shadow of ISS and PES - two years on the bouce now (going by the two demo's) it's the other way around.
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Just hope you can set online matches to professional or top player difficulty, unlike the horror show of last year being stuck at beginner, where the goalkeeper and defensive AI was awaful and too easy for the speed merchants.
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Way to easy.
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THE GOOD:
- Occasionally in PES 2009, a player would simply waltz off in a direction of his choosing, rather than obey your input with the left stick. This no longer seems to happen.
- Though I'll have to play more to check this fully, it also seems the AI no longer performs tackles of its own accord. The number of penalties I conceded in last year's version because of tackles I had no say over was ridiculous. It always felt totally unfair.
- 'Keepers are less easy to dribble around in one-on-one situations. I tried a few times with Master of One-on-Ones(TM) Fernando Torres, yet the 'keeper was always pretty sharp.
- For once, the menus are quite nice.
THE CACK:
- Free-kicks in the middle third are still utter rubbish and difficult to make much from. They need to address this; I'd use the two arrow system seen in the N64 ISS games.
- They've STILL not reassigned tricks to the right stick. Like last year, the right stick is used to pass the ball. NOBODY uses an analogue stick to perform passes when the buttons do a far more reliable job.
- I couldn't see Auto-Sort in the team selection menu, but may have missed it. I liked that option, because I'm lazy.
- Refs are still way too strict.
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Passing on PES 2010 still feels too automatic for me also. I still get the feeling the CPU is dictating how I should play. FIFA 10 is the game for me people.
I use to be a Winning Eleven mega fan back in the day. bought every japanese PS2 version but WE/PES doesnt do it for me these days.
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This'll be my first FIFA year since FIFA2000
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Why do players run like they are hunchbacks?
Why do they STILL put a 1 man wall infront of a free-kick near the halfway line?
The passing is still dreadful.
The speed of the game is far too fast.
The A.I still suck.
The CPU are far too easy to beat.
For the 2nd year running, PES is a let-down again.
I think the gap between FIFA 10 and PES is at the widest it's ever been.
Goodbye PES, you are dead to me.
FIFA 10 FTW
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It is quite amusing though seeing comments on FIFA and PES being the opposite of what they were four years ago, i.e. that FIFA was arcade-like and terrible and PES was more realistic and great. Who'd have thought so much could change in such a short span of time?
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@Darren
You don't have to keep telling us. I think we can safely assume you'll be getting it on the PC.
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I found the PES10 demo to be quite good, but not as good & fluid as Fifa. I also like the way the ball acts in FIFA better than PES, although the tactical aspects of PES seems to have some potential
Gameplay aside, I only hope that the managermode in FIFA will not disappoint me....
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Both are excellent though. I'll probably wait and see what the reviews say before buying.
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I found the PES demo to faster than FIFA.
I feel on FIFA I can build my play up more slowly and accurately.
I wonder if both games will allow to you alter the game speed?
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Arbeloa too, with Johnson on the bench and Voronin not back (not that he's much of a loss). Can't imagine it'll be fixed by release, as PES 09 was heavily outdated when that came out. However, I imagine they'll do a free patch come November.
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Still lacks the shine of Fifa, but the graphics are excellent. Shame the licenced teams are still out of date.
Considering i already own Fifa09, might consider getting this
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I have yet to experience a football game where this didn't turn out to be a hopelessly optimistic expectation, at least as far as final gameplay is concerned.
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crowd is awful but that is only minor. soundtrack seems as bad as ever but easy to put own tracks on. interface seems plush and player likeness is better than fifa. i played fifa- lampard was doing tricks thta ronaldinho would do- so stupid. i scored 10 goals in my second game in pes on easy mode- didn't take long to adjust.
grass looks great, goals look very god.
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Good problem to have though.
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pes however is brill. jamie carragher plays like how he should- his touch is awful, movement is slow and on the ball also. in pes you won't have carragher doing tricks.
in fifa it appears too easy to score. there isn't really evidence on individual abilities, they all seem to be the same pace.
fifa is always slick, branded and well appeals to those that prefer gloss to play. pes is a true simulation. i just hope online is improved somewhat. never touched the previous online due to lag issues. the fifa live update is just a gimmic.
one thing i liked about fifa is the commentary- though this isn't why i would get one. pes player representation not only visually but in play is way better than fifa.
"realistic gameplay" all these idiots think by having john terry doing flip flaps is realistic???? on release odviously the major player updates are sorted out. problem with pes is the liciences- this can be easily sorted with online unofficial downloads which means latest teams, right kits etc...
fifa have always compromised on the gameplay and focussed on stats, gloss. we all the leagues possible yet player ability is awful. why would the majority play a division 1 team. no doubt those players will be doing tricks aka ronaldinho style.
ppl say pes is playing awful- but its realistic. the players can't just pass because you say so. its like reality- like when you are running- its in the stride. also player abilities also affect touch, controll etc.... gerrad plays like he does in life- charging in the box pass numerous players, toe poking the winner. the number of times he charges intot the box is so reminisent of him is so untrue. even torres - slow of the mark but has pace, plays and looks like himself. the way he shoots, runs is truly the same.
you can tell who the palyer is by the way he moves, runs which fifa doesn't compare.
all those pretentious people should buy fifa. those who like realism, like great football and not the gloss buy pes. i will definitely get pes. the goals are incrediable. ai is good too. how players movement can drag players away is so like reality. players will intelligently do diagonal runs at the right time, no stupid runs to no mans land. good example is one- two where the "two" in the "one- two pass" player can drag the defence away fromthe initail passer by doing a run across the box so the eventual through ball goes through more succesfully and space for him to shoot etc....
on watching replays- a simple pes trick of long pass- cancel trick gives you a extra yard from the nearest defender because he stutters his run- this attention to detail is awesome
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