PES 2008 dated News

i luv ps3

WOOHOOO!!!!

Where's the demo.....!? Mungo want's a taste!

@ Batamana: Great first comment, would read again.

Well I've been playing the FIFA 08 demo for the last few hours and I still think pro evo will trash it. Yes it has great graphics again and looks so polished. But it still doesn't move smoothly and you really notice the non silky movement when you watch a replay. What i've always loved about pro evo is the smoothness and realism of the way the match can go. Fifa has made leaps forward but I want to be proud when I watch my goals back and not have my attention drawn to the wooden direction changes that fifa offers.
Pro evo is still for the true hardcores but foifa serves graphics slags well.

A shame the competitors won't launch at the same time, as that would force buyers to actually, you know, make a decision?

As it is, FIFA will sell more just because it came out first.

@SeesThroughAll

Maybe, but I think fifa and PES have many dedicated fans which will buy only their respective favourites. The Christmas market may establish the most popular.

Then again, many people (parents) will just buy the game depending who is on the box.

Will it finally get rid of the annoying scripted bollocks?

Probably not :(.

According to IGN's preview, diving is an option in this game? And that the ref may make some dodgy decisions? I thought there's a collective effort to get rid of these things? I wouldn't want anybody to consider them as a staple of the modern game. Certainly not in PES. Can you imagine how frustrating it would be if the opposition dived in the penalty box at the last minute to go on and win the match?

Don't want to knock Eurogamer for reporting a Konami "announcement", but every store, physical and online, has had Pro Evo 7 dated as October 26 for at least the last month.

@Tuffty

I'd actually like that, as long as there was the option to turn it on and off as you please.

Indeed, there is already enough randomness in Pro Evo especially with the shooting. More randomness is NOT what's needed

To knock eurogamer gamer further pro evo as far as I can remember always comes out on the last Friday in October. I just hope they get rid of cheating scumbag AI, nothing is worse than playing a match and seeing none of your players make runs or be able to hit the broadside of a barn, then see the AI run through all your players with none of your defenders running towards them and scoring.

Sorry PESFAN boys FIFA is way better this year

anamenos: And you're able to gauge this how, exactly? Played both yet?

*waits for more info on both titles*

I played the Fifa 08 demo and I thought it was crap, build up play doesn't hold a candle to last years Pro Evo on the PS2 hell I couldn't tell the difference between playing as Barcelona or Red Bull.

And since when did Fifa ditch the D-pad and use triggers for sprint I was so pissed off at the demo and people were saying this is Fifa's year HA.

@anamenos

Fool

I played the FIFA demo and couldn't believe people were raving about it.
If Pro Evo 08 is merely a marginal improvement over PES6 on PS2 then it will piss all over FIFA.

The FIFA demo (on 360) is very good (PS3 version's a bit dodgy, apparently). I wonder whether PES7 will deliver, given the laziness shown over the past couple of years...

@KILLA "If Pro Evo 08 is merely a marginal improvement over PES6 on PS2... "

Having your shots go where you point them would be a good place to start.

The FIFA demo (on 360) is very good (PS3 version's a bit dodgy, apparently). I wonder whether PES7 will deliver, given the laziness shown over the past couple of years...

Dodgy in what way?

FIFA 08 for the 360 and Pro Evo Soccer 2008 for the PS3 for me since Konami claim the latter is "three times better than the 360 version"! ;)

Darren, and when exactly did they claim this?

@jackB

What they claimed was that this year's version on PS3 was three times better than last year's one on xbox360 (not this year's 360 one). It was a very confusing quote, but sounded promising.

Is the PS3 versh going to get more content or not?

I'm roughly 3 times bigger than I was when I was 4

@JackyB - I'm not exactly sure but I definitely recall reading an interview in one of the PS3 magazines, likely PSU3 or OPSM as they're the only two I buy, where someone from Konami claimed that the game would be three time better on the PS3 than the 360 and use 18 GB of disc space. It might even have been an article from this site... sorry but my memory is a little rusty as to where I read it but I know I did read it. Somewhere.

Obviously I'm taking this statement with a liberal pinch of salt hence the ;) but my poor old PS3 is gagging for quality games (I don't think it was too happy about Lair...) so I've decided it can have Pro Evo 2008! LOL

I see.

How on earth would you use 18gig of disc space in a football game? Are we going to get a 10 minute long cutscene by Square every time someone scores a goal?

That's like asking why does Footy manager games require a hard drive when it's just a stats fest.

Be great if you could unlock classic goals/matches as a reward.

I really hope this Evo is something special, becaus the last two haven't set the world alight

@ Darren

Those quotes came from a forum poster who claimed to be a Konami rep but tried to prove his id using an amusement arcade card. Basically it was all bs.

I remember someone making this "3 times better" claim on this website, in a comments thread some time ago. How exactly do you quantify a game being "3 times better" than any other game? Especially the same game on different formats. Was there some sort of special equation in there somewhere? Stupid.

As for people saying the 360 and ps3 versions of pro evo will be the same take a read of this.

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/pes200...

Why is it hard to believe that Pro Evo 2008 could use 18GB of data?

Oh right because it's impossible for games to exceed 9GB.

FIFA 08 demo was so slow, I thought I was playing Pro Evo 6. Lets hope they sort Pro out and make it enjoyable again. Im worried by the trend of both series to slow the game down to the point it becoms frustrating and boring. I want to enjoy football games, not play out a realistsic 0-0 draw with 3 shots on goal.

@ djwhizzkidd

i agree with you totally on the slowing down factor of footy games. i was trying to pinpoint why i found the fifa demo so unusual.....and i think u got it spot on. :)

^^

Totaly agree that's why after years of PES I found Fifa 07 (xbox) such a breath of fresh air. It was fluid, not on rails, passes and shots went where you wanted them too. In a nut shell it was FUN.

Based on the demo it looks like Fifa 08 is going down the same route as PES (slowly sucking all the enjoyment out of it) which is a shame.

Roll on SWOS.....

I think they meant "greatest update of all time". The game has been giving us marginal tweaks for 4 years now.

From the demo i played in leizipig i must say the Next gen version is still not as good as the PS2 version.

And yes all the scripting is still there. U can shoot 100 different shots, u will get the same 2 goly animations. Simulation right???

IINickyII - "If you think Pro evo on PS3 uses 18GB of disk space then your mother must have dropped you on your head at least 15 times as a baby.

Get a grip ffs."

So you think because the Xbox 360 version comes on a 7.2 GB DVD (that's how much space devs have to use) that the PS3 version which will come on a 25 GB BD will only use 7.2 GB?

Get a grip ffs. ;)

The PS3 version might have higher quality sound and better textures for all we know. Sure it won't change the fact that both games will be nigh on identical in play but I'm quietly hopeful that Konami give PS3-owners something extra even if it it's only those things I mention.

By the way, I found where I read "the 18 GB size" and the "three times better than 360 version"... it was in issue 11 of PSU3 magazine and apparently original from a Konami insider who posted on a Korean website but, obviously, that doesn't make it official or anything and I'm still dubious myself. Hopefully Konami will make some use of that extra 18 GB of storage space though.

well if it don't have at least 2v2 over live and online leagues they can stick it were the sun don't shine

A pal of mine works in Sony's QA and as far as hes concerned the new PES is, in his words "good but it feels like the same game as PES6 with a few extra knobs on". He's on about the PS2 version though so fingers remain crossed for the next gen versions being more impressive.

wplayed the fifa 08 demo, whats the difference with 07, absolutely nothing. Evo had better be good

pes is the best roll on the 26th oct

Not played Fifa 07 on 360, only the Xbox so I can't compare, but after getting to grips with the Fifa 08 demo now, I'm really enjoying it. I'm scoring virtually every game now and they have all been quite different.

It's funny how we all say you have got to play PES for a week or two to appreciate it, but with Fifa people write it off after a 2 minute demo !

Good point,

Pes has a superbiased fun base, maybe the most biased ever. Fifa NG had become a good franchise with good on line off line modes.

Gameplay is on the same level as pes now, just people got so used to pes they can't adapt to anything new.

Darren I think you'll find the PS3 is probably the lead platform being a Konami game, I read in the comments to the gamespot link that PS3 was 65% at that time while the 360 was 35% complete. You could be right about the sound, but then with the right compression(WMA) the 360 could have more than enough on there in 5.1 too. Textures if anything should be better on 360, its not just about fitting more of them on the disc where they are concerened. I realise the PS3 isnt getting much to sway people on PS3 version of multiplatform games, which might be frustrating to some who favour the brand(this is fanboyism) but there isnt alot the devs can do to begin with no matter how much more time they spend with that version(7.1 audio perhaps? if you can use it).

If the 360 version isnt up to scratch its going to be obvious they neglected that version but I doubt Konami would do that, they want it to sell well and might be a bit worried about the reception Fifas are getting recently. Im a PES fan but Im already curious about the new fifa, if they do another sloppy 360 PES(not played 06 but heard a few complaints about the lack of effort, it still sold so they kind of owe it to these fans really) then I might just see what the fuss is about with the new FIFA. That said Im sure they are putting just as much effort into the 360 version it may just be that its a little behind, so I wouldnt hold your breathe on a "better" PS3 version.

It hasn't even been released yet and it's already dated.

Oh I played the Fifa demo like heck to give it a fair go probably got 2 hours worth off the 4 minute demo, I honestly don't see that the gap has closed considerably between the two even if PES 2008 is exactly like last years.

Botching the controls didn't help either.

IINickyII:

"If you think Pro evo on PS3 uses 18GB of disk space then your mother must have dropped you on your head at least 15 times as a baby.

Get a grip ffs."


----------------


You do realise that games are compressed onto discs don't you, so if Pro Evo on the 360 uses up the whole disc and has a 50% compression rate, which is not that uncommon then it could easily be 18gb on the PS3. This will help speed up load times on the PS3 although, they're already slow so chances are they'll be just as quick as on the 360 now. You'll also see improved frame rates and any sound or videos will be better on the PS3.

Wii? Woo!