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PC gamers will transition to PS3 - NCsoft Europe boss News

PC PlayStation 3 News by Tom Bramwell

29 August, 2007

NCsoft reckons that PC gamers will transition to PS3 in the long term, which helps to explain why the MMO publisher is backing Sony's curvy black slab.

"I think there is a difference between PC and console players but there's overlap as well," NCsoft Europe boss Geoff Heath told our sister site GamesIndustry.biz.

"Our view long term is that people who have traditionally only played on PC will actually now start transitioning to PS3. Once they figure out what PS3 does, I think that take-up will get greater and greater."

Heath was speaking in the aftermath of NCsoft's recent announcement that it would produce games for PS3 going forward. Asked what those would be, Heath wasn't able to specify, but did say to expect three or four in the first batch.

"Our biggest problem, which is a nice one, is that we've got loads of games - I think we've got something like nine MMOs in development and about 20 free MMOs, the ones you don't pay subscriptions for - so we've got tons of products in development. We can't realistically do all of them for PS3, plus the fact that we've got existing IP," he said.

"So, really our nice problem is to distill down to probably three or four titles, initially, that would do for PS3. We're working with Sony on which ones they are."

He also said that "some of our products would be great for PSP".

For more on NCsoft's partnership with Sony, check out the full Geoff Heath interview on GamesIndustry.biz.

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mcmothercruncher
29/08/07 @ 08:06
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My arse.
Whizzo
29/08/07 @ 08:07
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Geoff Heath is a wag isn't he? He's also very wrong.
pigwhistler
29/08/07 @ 08:09
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will we fuck you cock monkey!
Razz
29/08/07 @ 08:14
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As a PC gamer I don't see that happening anytime soon. I'm more interested in the buying a 360 atm than a PS3. Doeswn't mean that I won't eventually pick one up though. Ratchet and Clank looks promising.
Metalfish
29/08/07 @ 08:17
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Surely pc gamers (perhaps "hardcore gamers") would prefer the xbox 360 -typically thought of as the "hardcore" machine?

But then again, this is an overblown soundbite cut from a longer interview intended to get page hits. Not that I mind of course.

Edit: Razz > Me
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Dizzy
29/08/07 @ 08:19
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ROFL
brooza
29/08/07 @ 08:21
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But for the price of a PS3 they can get a decent gaming PC.
Steroyd
29/08/07 @ 08:23
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User created content aka LittleBigPlanet, Mods ala Unreal Tournament with KBM control... if Sony keeps that up it could happen.
Dynamize
29/08/07 @ 08:24
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Why the hell would I want to do that?
If anything it's an X360. Which is in a way a limited PC anyways.

I really, really can't see the logic behind this, barring a total collapse of the mainstream PC games market as well as the indie. Except Sony money greasing wheels.
SentientNr6
29/08/07 @ 08:26
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Oh! My! God!
Not in this PC gamer's lifetime.
SentientNr6
29/08/07 @ 08:27
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Oh! My! God!
Not in this PC gamer's lifetime.
mkreku
29/08/07 @ 08:28
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If it was about the machine (and I absolutely had to switch from PC) I'd go for the Playstation 3 (Linux support, Mouse/Keyboard support in games, exchangeable standard harddrive etc.). But since we're talking about a console after all and they're all about games, the Xbox 360 is still the best for me.
NegativeZero
29/08/07 @ 08:29
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Uh, no. PC gamers will transition to a better PC.
bengray66
29/08/07 @ 08:31
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@ Egster........

"So the PS3 and the PC are a perfect combination if you want to play all the good games."

Im sorry have i missed something? When did the PS3 start having games?

Also, Surely PC gamers are more likely to continue being PC gamers? Why would they buy a PS3 when surely they prefer using a mouse and keyboard, which is why they are PC gamers, and they are not already a 360/ps3 owner????

Maldoror
29/08/07 @ 08:33
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I have a PC, X360, PS3 and Wii. I spend all of my gamingsessions in front of the PC (currently Bioshock) or Wii (currently RE4). The controls on the Wii is so far removed from the PC, that the Wii is an excellent companion for the PC. It also has the best social gaming abilities, where the PC has none.

The X360 is a nice addition and I know a lot of PC gaming friends, which own a X360, but they mainly bought it because of games which should have, but doesn't exist on PC. Gears of War, Halo 3 f.ex.

The PS3 is just bollocks, until better games comes along, I only ever used mine to play God of War 2, which is a PS2 game.
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29/08/07 @ 08:34
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And so speak all the trolls....
Goodfella
29/08/07 @ 08:38
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But for the price of a PS3 they can get a decent gaming PC.

I think not.

As expected this is a trollfest.
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Steroyd
29/08/07 @ 08:40
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For starters on PC you have a massive Mod scene which consoles just cannot support.

Ahem
yagisencho
29/08/07 @ 08:43
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This PC gamer will not 'transition' to any games console. I'll play them from time to time, but this guy is smoking something if he thinks I'm going to give up my PC.
Dizzy
29/08/07 @ 08:46
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"This PC gamer will not 'transition' to any games console. I'll play them from time to time, but this guy is smoking something if he thinks I'm going to give up my PC. "

QFT. PC gamers have consoles as sidekicks.

This is the most stupid idea this year so far. Gratz NCSoft.
menage
29/08/07 @ 08:48
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"I have a PS3 so that I get to play the best of both worlds. You can't deny the fact that nearly all xbox 360 games come out on PC as well. While Sony has a load of first party exclusives that will never get out on PC.

So the PS3 and the PC are a perfect combination if you want to play all the good games.

Huh??????

Nearly all 360 games come out for PC?? = bull

PS3 to play the good games? What games might that be??

symmetry
29/08/07 @ 08:50
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The only reason they're going to PS3 is because they can't do want they want to do on Live...

Online, they have pretty much total freedom on the PS3, which is a shame.
tonynibbles
29/08/07 @ 08:51
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PC = Great games
360 = Great games (but most of the good ones come out on PC anyway)
PS3 = Not enough good games (yet) but perfect for the living room and an HDTV
Wii = Not enough good games (yet)

I choose PC + PS3
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kangarootoo
29/08/07 @ 08:54
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"But for the price of a PS3 they can get a decent gaming PC"

That is plain nonsense.
Steroyd
29/08/07 @ 08:57
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"But for the price of a PS3 they can get a decent gaming PC"

Not enough to play Crysis.
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Katsumoto
29/08/07 @ 09:00
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Nonsense eh? I just went to pcspecialist.co.uk and in less than a minute specced up a dual core pc with a direct x 10 card for 438 quid. That's including windows etc.

It's by no means top of the range but it would eat bioshock for breakfast.
Bumhug360
29/08/07 @ 09:00
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£400 would get you the kit required for a fairly decent gaming pc, wouldnt be a kick ass dx10 beast but then hardly needed at the moment. PC's downfall is the OS though, if you are going to do it legally then £400 would be pushing it a bit ;)
Dizzy
29/08/07 @ 09:01
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>but most of the good ones come out on PC anyway

http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?...

Strangely... the 360 has the most exclusives even if you remove the "PC" ones.

Anyway.. this is not about combining systems, it is about moving to PS3 as gaming platform. Barely anybody is moving to PS3 at the moment, let alone PC gamers.
Avenger1324
29/08/07 @ 09:01
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He must be wanting a job in Sony's PR department alongside Comical Ali!!

With Microsoft pushing Windows Live to allow 360 and PC players to play against each other I think it's much more likely that the 360 would be more suited to this kind of transition.
Whizzo
29/08/07 @ 09:02
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Well a PS3 won't play Crysis either so the point is rather moot.
Maldoror
29/08/07 @ 09:04
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"Wii = No games"
Untrue Zelda, RE4 (best version IMO) and lets not forget the social gaming aspect of the console. Super Mario Galaxy, was by far the best console game I played in Leipzig and Wii Fit is a cracking accessory.
Katsumoto
29/08/07 @ 09:09
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Also, other than Mass Effect, what 360 exclusives aren't coming to the PC that anyone cares about? Okay, some people care about Halo 3, but I think most PC gamers don't give half as much of a shit as 360 owners, considering the first two, whilst revolutionary for the console market, were pretty bland by pc standards. Imho, anyway. Don't flame me!
Steroyd
29/08/07 @ 09:12
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With Microsoft pushing Windows Live to allow 360 and PC players to play against each other I think it's much more likely that the 360 would be more suited to this kind of transition.

PC gamers would pay to play online?
JohnnyWashnGo
29/08/07 @ 09:13
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I have several PCs but sadly I am not a PC gamer because games for Linux are few and far between.

Do you think he may have meant 'gamers who play games on a PC running windows'?

Anyway, people who play games on their PC do so because of the unique way they can customise the machine to maximise their gaming experience. If the game is a little slow or the framerate a little choppy, it gives the PC gamer a reason to spend more money on a faster processor, better graphics card or more memory.

Thoss types of people tend to eschew console gaming.

So saying that PC gamers will transition to the PS3 seems a very odd statement indeed.
pigwhistler
29/08/07 @ 09:14
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katsumoto - i agree - remember first time i saw halo 2 (hadnt seen 1) with people banging on about it and i was like "lol - is that what passed for good on consoles?"
FaceOmeter
29/08/07 @ 09:14
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The PC as a gaming format has survived uninterrupted all previous generations of the console "war", and I don't see anything in the argument that just because one games company has changed "sides", the players will too.

For a succinct summary of why it will never happen:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/?page_id=9
immateriaux
29/08/07 @ 09:15
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Sounds shite to me yet, at the moment, I have some sympathy with the proposition given that trying to play Bioshock on PC involves double-clicking the BioShock icon, waiting for a few minutes to see if it has frozen up again, restarting entire PC, double-clicking on BioShock icon, noting that my graphic and audio settings have been re-set again, putting them back to what I want, re-starting BioShock, waiting for the stupid fucking Securirom whatever thing to churn through the DVD drive and, eventually, about ten minutes after I started out wanting to play the thing, get to the game... That makes me want to migrate to something anyway.

The way companies are putting more any more clumsy, heavy handed security restrictions on PC games will ultimately drive people away from playing on the PC methinks.
viper_h
29/08/07 @ 09:15
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Get a PS3? don't think so retard, but thanks for making the assumption for us.

Edit: and 9 MMOs??? who the hell is going to play those? There's only one MMO people actually play. What a waste of time.
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WickedDeeJ
29/08/07 @ 09:16
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Hmm, transition from a free format where I'm in control of what I do, to a closed format where some guy in Japan decides everything I'm allowed to do? I think not.
Katsumoto
29/08/07 @ 09:18
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@ nickyjoe - you sound like a manly man's gamer! I wish I was as hardcore as you! I bet all the girls admire you down the pub when you tell them about your gamepad and how you used it to set fire to splicers! you REAL gamer you! /jealous
tonynibbles
29/08/07 @ 09:20
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"Wii = No games"

I stand by that.

Wii has no more good games on shop shelves than the PS3 does.

Zelda is a good game, sure. It's the first game that comes from peoples lips when you ask 'what good games for the Wii are there?'. It's a launch game though and ever since launch there has been a steady stream of mediocre or poor third party games for the Wii. RE4 is good, sure - but it's not a new game, it was always a great game on Gamecube and PS2. You'd think they'd be another title on the shelves to shout about. Some Wii games have been a big let down too.

I don't see it any different to shouting 'MotorStorm', 'Resistance', 'fl0w', 'Super Stardust' when asked about good games for th PS3.

Wii & PS3 = two consoles with not enough good games out at the moment, but also two consoles with a great line up in the next 6 months.

Killerbee
29/08/07 @ 09:22
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"Transition" is the wrong word. I don't see any PC gamers leaving the PC just because the Playstation 3 is on the market.

But I do think that the console that least-well complements a hardcore PC gamer is the 360 - not that it's not a great machine, but more because anyone with a decent PC can play top titles like Oblivion and Bioshock without the need for another box under the telly.

It's not nearly there yet, but I do think the Playstation 3 will eventually be a great complement to a good PC (and a Wii, natch) for any committed gamer.
menage
29/08/07 @ 09:24
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"Yes nearly all the good games coming out on the xbox 360 are also on the PC.

The games I got a PS3 for are games like heavenly sword, warhawk, wipeout, white knight story, god of war, ratchett & clank, jak & daxter, gran turismo, MGS, final fantasy etc. Not a single FPS because I play those on the PC platform."

Eh, Jak & Daxter, when's that coming?? Of all those titles most of them won't even make 2008.

Lost Oddysee, Mass Effect, Too Human, Banjo, Halo 3, PGR, Forza, Crackdown, Dead Rising, Eternal Sonata, Katamari, Ace Combat, Halo Wars, etc. And most of them hit this year (or you can buy now).
You not playing FPS on 360 is your problem. And of all those games listed above how many are FPS.

Great that you like PS3, it's going to get great games, but you're talking out your ass
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Steroyd
29/08/07 @ 09:29
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88% of all Bioshock sales were on 360, it is irelevant what PS3 and PC gamers/developers think. The money and game sales are on Wii and 360. Wii caters to the non gamers who want party crap, 360 caters to real gamers and serious developers who want to make real games.

Gee if 88% of all Bioshock sales are Xbox 360 why the hell is the PC version of Bioshock 4th in the individual platform chart sales.
SBfistfun
29/08/07 @ 09:29
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Ncsoft Europe boss talks shite shocker.

"Once they figure out what PS3 does,"

Waste 400+ quid?
FlamingCarrot
29/08/07 @ 09:30
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Not a cat in hells chance

My PS3 is the worst early adoption i have ever done. I am a PC gamer through and through and albeit the PS3 has some,errrr, charms it can't be compared to the PC gaming experience. The 360 is hooked up to media centre via Vista and thats a neat touch. Playing Bioshock in full DX10 glory is one of the best gaming experiences i have had for a long time. To say PC gamers will gravitate to the PS3 is IMHO bollocks.
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29/08/07 @ 09:38
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"But for the price of a PS3 they can get a decent gaming PC"

That is plain nonsense.


It's really not. My PC (dual core 4400+, 7900GT, 2GB RAM) would cost under £400, even with a copy of XP which, tbh, most people already own anyway. The only game I've encountered which it doesn't play on max settings is Oblivion.

No monitor of course, but a HDTV, which would be great for gaming, doesn't come with a PS3 either.
UncleLou
29/08/07 @ 09:40
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Yeah, for me as a PC gamer, the PS3 is more interesting than the 360, because at least many of the most interesting 360 games also appear on the PC. Which leads to the paradoxon that the in theory best suited console for me is also the one I have the least interest in. :)

Though a PS3 can only be a seen as a supplement for me exactly for the type of games you don't see on PCs, so I don't agree with the NCSoft guy, I guess.
UncleLou
29/08/07 @ 09:41
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And 88% of Bioshock sales are on the 360? Not even on the UK, most certainly, let alone anywhere else in Europe...
Dizzy
29/08/07 @ 09:44
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"Gee if 88% of all Bioshock sales are Xbox 360 why the hell is the PC version of Bioshock 4th in the individual platform chart sales. "

Maybe because those 12% of sales are enough to be in 4th place?

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