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Condemned 2: Bloodshot Preview

Xbox 360 PlayStation 3 Preview by Quintin Smith

23 November, 2007

Condemned then. Chances are if you have a memory of the original Condemned: Criminal Origins it'll be a hazy thing consisting mainly of beating tramps to death with locker doors. You probably won't remember the story either, since towards the end of the game the plot collapsed like so much dunked digestive. The narrative never quite managed to make two more interesting characters than 'The Locker Door' and 'The Tramp's Face'.

But you should feel sorry for Condemned, if you can find it in that shrivelled, raisin-like heart of yours. Monolith only had 15 months to throw it together, not to mention no prior experience of developing on the 360, yet despite it all it was being ambitious. It wanted to make a first person brawler, something we'd only been able to glimpse in The Chronicles of Riddick the year before, and it wanted ithe action punctuated with CSI puzzling sections. Monolith imagined the whole thing wrapped up in an overly dark and real underworld with the most gritty and tactile combat in modern gaming, and wanted Criminal Origins to be the first game in a grand and in-depth series.

Put like that, maybe you'll be happy to hear it's taking another swing at it, intent on hitting all the targets the first game missed. And since hyperviolence was about the only target the first game got a bullseye on, the plan is to take that to the next level. This time around, as one of 40 environment kills, you'll be able to get a tramp in a choke hold, drag him over to a filthy toilet, drown him in the bowl and smash his head on the rim. Hooray!

"It's a toilet!" One of the lead developers at Monolith told us, with a wry smile. "When you do it, you'll laugh."

Is Monolith worried about getting banned after what happened to Rockstar? Not in the slightest.

"I know if you took down bullet points of what you saw in the game it'd sound horrible", the Monolith rep said. "But if you were to play it you'd see that there's nothing really mean-spirited about what we're doing, and there's almost a hint of humour about what we do. I don't think we have the same kind of worry as a game like Manhunt. That had that streak in it that was... almost pure evil.

"And we're being pro-active about this. Whatever we do we're running by the certification people. If a red flag comes up we're going to address it, we're not going to get to the end and have some big media blow-up."

'Condemned 2: Bloodshot' Screenshot 1

So now we can all be snug in the knowledge that Condemned 2 is definitely coming, let's talk about what it's bringing.

Condemned 2 picks up a little after where Criminal Origins left off. In fierce Metro City, protagonist Ethan Thomas's life has fallen apart and he's gone from FBI Agent to tramp, which should please anyone who ever compared the original game to a bumfighting sim. You'll spend a little time enjoying the horrors (fights) of life on the street before you're re-hired by the FBI, who apparently have no qualms recruiting a seven foot tall bungalow of a homeless man with missing fingers and who reeks of whisky.

That's about all we know about the plot for the moment, but you can probably assume you get re-hired because the city's continuing its strange and horrible descent into chaos, and only you can hit junkies in the mouth hard enough to save the day.

What we can tell you about is the new CSI detective sections, which look great. Gone are the set pieces where you're told to use pieces of your gear in turn to solve the mystery. In Condemned 2 they're genuine puzzles, with you inspecting the crime scene with your own two eyes and having to answer a series of multiple choice questions about what you think went down.

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In the example we saw, Ethan spent a while trying to identify the victim through his face and notable features (the victim's, not Ethan's. He's not that good), before finding the victim's police badge and using the serial number to speed up the process. The cause of death was correctly identified as a gunshot exit wound, which players would be expected to figure out just by getting up close and looking. Then Ethan was asked if the victim had been moved, to which he almost answered no before using his UV torch and finding a trail of blood, showing the body had been dragged onto the floor from a couch.

There's no tedious trial and error involved, either. You get one shot at most of the questions, and this adds a nice feeling of tension to the proceedings. The unfortunate flip side of that is that the process becomes slightlyunforgiving of stupid mistakes, so you'll probably want to check for, say, breasts before you call in the body as a late 20s male.

As fun as this all sounds though, it'll remain a cute break from the brutal fight for survival you'll be enjoying. On that front things are a little more familiar, with impossibly loud and smoky (and sparse) guns, dim lighting, satisfying sound effects and a joyous sense of weight. Our pet Monolith developer had this to say on the subject:

"I am not knocking Bioshock, because Bioshock for me is way up there. But when I'm hitting a guy with a pipe, I want to see that guy spin around and spit teeth."

'Condemned 2: Bloodshot' Screenshot 3

Quite so. But you'll be doing more than just hitting guys with pipes (and planks, and spades, and bricks, and baseball bats, and and and). Now the combat system includes the new environment kills I mentioned before, which can be brought in once you've got someone restrained using the new holds available. On top of this you've now got shoves, elbows and kicks, and it all comes together to create a thing of beauty. When the dev playing managed to do well in the scraps we saw, Ethan was like a monstrous force of nature, shoving unarmed psychos to one side so he could kick their buddy in the stomach, then picking their makeshift weapon off the floor and alternating his swings between the two of them. Mr. Monolith had something to say about that, too.

"We took it to the level where you start feeling an emotional response. When you get hit, you wince. When you hit someone, it's like 'Oh my God I'm an animal.' "

So, yes. Condemned 2 is coming, as well as a Condemned movie, so here's hoping that given the development time it needs this is a series that can work. No One Lives Forever proved that Monolith has the capacity to realise its great ideas. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to imagine Condemned 2 ending up very solid indeed.

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Lexx87
23/11/07 @ 07:56
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Woo! Something to take home and show my mum then.
morriss
23/11/07 @ 08:12
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"When you get hit, you wince. When you hit someone, it's like 'Oh my God I'm an animal."

:D

Some real grins in that article. Nice one. Can't wait for the game, loved the first one.
mazzl
23/11/07 @ 08:14
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this as a loony tune game would be a lot nicer, i don't realy like dark and gritty
mkreku
23/11/07 @ 08:15
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Why are Americans so fascinated by ultra-violence?
RamblinSydRumpo
23/11/07 @ 08:31
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It's amazing how something so highly acclaimed as the first game always turns to shit when the oh so much better sequel is previewed.
And I don't think they'll get this past the BBFC...
Triggerhappytel
23/11/07 @ 08:32
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Was sounding like a great preview up until the mention of a Condemned movie...?!

Anyway, sounds pretty tight, and coming from Monolith it's not unreasonable to expect great things. Looking good.
TelexStar
23/11/07 @ 08:38
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You make it sound like the original was shit. The story and atmosphere in Condemned was actually the most refreshing thing about the 360 launch.
DUFFMAN5
23/11/07 @ 08:40
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I thought the first was a very good game (see my review, if you have any interest)
but fell short in a couple of areas, so hopefully the second can right those. Will be buying unless it all goes very wrong.
squarejawhero
23/11/07 @ 08:58
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Why the hate on the original? Keep personal opinion to reviews, I say. It was fucking great and bloody scary.
Freelancepolice
23/11/07 @ 08:58
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What a bizarre preview, it barely mentioned any sort of reference to the scare factor of the first game, which for me was its strongest point.

What a strangely written preview.
Bloodkult
23/11/07 @ 09:01
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I thought Condemned was easily the best 360 launch game.
Looked great and was proper mess yer kecks scary as well.

This'll be good!

squarejawhero
23/11/07 @ 09:02
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Yeah, it's weird. It's known widespread for being one of the scariest games of all time. The narrative wasn't that bad at all, which only leads me to believe the previewer's never played it through or was expecting far, far too much. In fact it was pretty all-round fucked up, and all the better for it.
rotmm
23/11/07 @ 09:16
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I'm another in agreement with those who thought the original Condemned was a great game. Looking forward to this one too.
Skooch
23/11/07 @ 09:21
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It is nice to read comments where people support the original title - I agree, it was a bloody great game and by far the most refreshing launch title. I've played through it twice and even knowing all the scary bits doesn't stop the sweating and heart pounding. If played at home, alone, where you could immerse yourself in the atmosphere it was awesome and the scariest game I have ever played - such great use of sound and lighting (that torch was one of the best and most realistic torch effects I have seen in a game).

If Monolith, who I respect greatly, can keep the great bits of the original and add to it then I'm in - very much looking forward to this!
rashes
23/11/07 @ 09:22
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Sweet... whats the ETA?
Xerx3s
23/11/07 @ 09:31
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Sounds like they complete enhanced what was bad about the original and left out what was good. More and more I'm considering to leave this one on the shelves.
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Saladin
23/11/07 @ 09:59
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I think describing Manhunt as having a streak of evil in it is a) melodramatic considering it's just a game, not Satan himself and b) somwhat hypocritical, considering the violence and nastiness of some parts of Condemed - the difference between Manhunt's canned violence and these "environment kills" is what exactly?
GamesConnoisseur
23/11/07 @ 10:00
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Seem virtually everyone is in agreement that Condemned was a bloody great launch game, I have a very fond memory of it as being one of my first HD game and recuperating from a very painful illness. So was then in habit of playing it in the wee hour, in the dark, and being in a miserable and difficult position to boot!

Sure the investgation bits we all knew could have been better and glad that it will be and look forward to continuing saga of Ethan.

The movie for me doesn't have a bearing on the upcoming game, the movie will likely flop or at least do a 'Silent Hill'.
Wrestlevania
23/11/07 @ 10:13
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The original game was brilliant; tightly written, excellently paced and enjoyable throughout.

No, the (I suspect SEGA-influenced) arcade-like crime tools mechanics were naff, but never the less they worked well in involving the player in the narrative steps. Much better than cut scenes in a game like this at any rate.

What's the point of this preview though, precisely? Lots of rather ignorant-sounding vitriol and fuck-all of actual factual value. The writing suggests the writer attended Monolith's offices personally, then summarily failed to extract any useful information about the plot.

Also this preview is in direct contradiction with EG's first look some weeks back--it makes no mention of the criticisms raised when the earlier build of the game was being poured over, so we're actually less enlightened by this piece than we were by the older one.

At this point I've more faith in Monolith not screwing up the sequel to my personal Game of the Year for 2006 than I do in EG's ability to write worthwhile copy. Did you even run this past an editor? It's a complete mess.
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BillyBrush
23/11/07 @ 10:15
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Jeez Quentin

Condemned was and still is one of the best games on the 360, people don't feel 'sorry' for it they flippin love it, for me it dumps all over things like Bioshite, so don't worry yourself, this will do very well indeed

still by far the best audio to grace the system, graphics weren't to shabby, art was stunning, and Mr Tibbits one of the best moments in a loong while, it definately cacked on having to take a golf club to andrew ryan, that's for sure

Monolith were'nt bought by Warner brothers for no reason, they are shiiit hot
TheSnotGoblin
23/11/07 @ 10:45
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Never played the first but any mention of it always raises a smile as to me it's the game where you prove you're innocent of murder by bludgeoning tramps to death with blunt instruments....


I'll see if I can pick it up 2nd hand after Christmas I reckon.
Tenaflyviper
23/11/07 @ 11:09
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I loved the first one, especially fighting in that creepy department store

Can't wait for this one
busboy33
23/11/07 @ 11:31
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@SnotGoblin:

Definitely worth a playthrough (or 3)! Especially with a good sound system and the lights off. Certainly some issues, but scary as all hell. AI was brillianty ruthless.
miiiguel
23/11/07 @ 11:46
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Fantastic 1st game, although the plot could have been better explained.
Bloodkult
23/11/07 @ 12:05
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"the ending of Condemned, at that house"

Please don't mention going down into the baseme...

...I've just wet my pants :(
Tenaflyviper
23/11/07 @ 13:17
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And following the writing on the walls all around the house with the UV light, brilliant!
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23/11/07 @ 14:59
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Somebody just has to rip off Condemned but leave out all the silly monster/demon shit. Not interested in this at all.
Mashum
23/11/07 @ 15:45
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Condemned 2 will have a "a darker, edgier tone' apparently. At least that's what they said a while ago in this messily linked interview about a change in voice actor...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/vo/heroes-cop-j...

I loved the first one, fingers crossed they won't go all Prince of Persia Warrior Within!
Freelancepolice
23/11/07 @ 23:08
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Glad I wasn't the only one that thought this preview was written badly
dllord
24/11/07 @ 00:05
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Loved the first game, especially the part where the mannequins start to attack you in the department store. Pretty damn scary!
BBIAJ
24/11/07 @ 08:23
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@ RamblinSydRumpo:

Monolith are actually developing this in close tandem with the ESRB, so as not to bait the censors into banning it.

Whether or not the BBFC will see things the same way, remains to be seen however...
cobracotton
26/11/07 @ 03:43
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wow condemned from your comments guys sounds awesome I overlooked it as some BS CSI thing, but dummies coming to life demons scary = good in cotton's book might have to pick it up on the cheap...

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