Black Comments by Kristan Reed

I despise the Burnout series but love FPS'es. Ooh, that's a right pickle...

But by February 2006 I'll have a 360 and Perfect Dark by then so :P.

Dammit Eurogamer, there you go again being stupidly fooled into thinking the PS2 is actually worth bothering with - You are so transparently biased towards Sony:-)

;)

I heard that the "PS2 demo" was rolling on PC dev kits equipped with dual GeForce 6800 cards, backed up by a SGI graphics workstation, is it true? If so, $ONĄ are lying to us AGAIN!

You kids are SO 5 hours ago...

this looks very intresting :). think i will get it for the xbox for the extra little bit more power it has over a ps2. but why is this coming out 2006 on xbox and not on x360!?.

so... no comment on the gameplay then; it's just all lush graphics and explosions?

Difficult to comment on gameplay when we didn't get to play it!

... but why is this coming out 2006 on xbox and not on x360!? ...

if it can be run on current gen boxes and plays & looks as nifty as the EG lot make it out to what would you do ?

appeal to the already substantial userbase of current gen xbox players (and their wallets/purses) or alienate all of them for the smaller amount of peeps (and their wallets/purses) that have just upgraded to an x360 ?

personally i'd don't care whether it comes out on my current xbox or the next one, if the gameplay is there, hell even if its just plain fuckin fun, count me in


cVo

Krudster - I admire your patience and tact. ;-)

Goes with the territory...

I wish people would stop inserting currency symbols into company names, it's getting really farcical now.

Krudster - I guess so. I still find it impressive because reading these threads I feel like banging my head against the wall.

Probably a good thing you're the journalist and I'm the one mucking about with particle accelerators that will shortly create a black hole and destroy us all*)

*Probably not, but y'know, it MIGHT happen( ;-)

Forgot to mention that anything from the team that gave us Burnouts 1 and 2 (oh go on, BO3 as well, even if I didn't like it myself), *HAS* to be given the benefit of the doubt. Plus Alex Ward used to hang out on the Edge forums, and seemed like a top bloke.
Personally I'm extremely excited about this.

And how's this for an idea? They should put the DJ from BO3 into the game as an enemy character. Imagine the sheer JOY of shooting out the struts of a building and dropping 400 tons of rubble on him? They make that possible and I'll pre-order the game right now! ;-)

I've no doubt the game looks spangly and uber-lovely, but it's just the fact that the "screenshots" they've released are technically not possible on a PS2, not even with 'clever coding'(tm). They're renders. PS2 doesn't go that hi-res! And, more importantly, neither can your TV.

green_nifta, most devs do that. It's the game engine drawing (I don't want to say rendering, that would confuse you) the screen at a higher resolution, nothing else. It's done mostly for print but they send it to everyone these days.

They've been doing it since Jak & Daxter, if you look for 2D-elements, such as interface details, HUDs, etc. you'll see that they are simply scaled up and pixelated.

Indeed, I know how they're generated (captured directly from the frame buffer) (and I do understand the difference between pre-rendered and real-time rendering, so don't worry about confusing me and needing to use words like 'draw'! :D ), it still irks me incredibly that they're passed off as 'in-game graphics' when they truly aren't. They're produced by the rendering engine, but not in its 'game mode', and they don't reflect what the game will look like running in real-time.

They're obviously running several anti-aliasing passes on these shots as well by the smoothness of edges, effects which are very unlikely to be capable and still hold 30fps (or whatever the game ends up at).

A PS2 can bosh out a WONDERFUL looking still image. But getting a game to look the same when played is a different kettle of fish entirely.

As I keep repeating, sod the screen shots, wait for the video and then prepare to haul your jaw up off the floor.

After your site's "wow, this is so cool" response to the PS3 'Game Demos' shown at E3 I think I'll wait to see videos of Black being played for an objective view of what it really looks like, not some snazzy promo video generated by the marketing-services department at EA.

Hoping that it does truly rock though.

You're right to think that game promo videos are generally pretty hard to trust, but even a blind monkey could make Black look good. Still, you won't have long to wait.

When's the vid arriving then, Kristan? I've only been waiting since last E3 to see what's so special about this one. :-)

Dunno, I keep prodding Criterion about it, but so far no joy. I'm sure they'll show it off in their own sweet time. Sooner rather than later, but I suspect there's all sorts of official mag exclusivity and all that jazz.

Bah. Curse those dreary print rags!

You can see why Sony had to make the PS3 such a monster of a machine - its the only way to rid the internet of idiots who still whine on about PS2 graphics. But if BO3, Transformers and God of War (supposedly) hasn't shut them up, I doubt if even this mighty effort will. Oh well, we can hope.

But hell, if this is what they can do with raw talent now, what are these boys going to do with a 360 or PS3 once they get it fired up to the same level? Ay carumba!

i cant wait for the video
and i am definetly adding this to the buy list!!!!!!!

just.....awesome