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The Godfather Comments by Corey Brotherson

19 July, 2005

A game licence EA couldn't refuse.

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DaveLondon
19/07/05 @ 08:19
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"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."
space ace
19/07/05 @ 08:26
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forgive them godfather for they know not what they do
Clive Dunn
19/07/05 @ 08:42
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Does anyone out there think this has a chance of being any good ? Anyone ? Bueller...Bueller.....
hula hoops
19/07/05 @ 08:53
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I do. And by the look of this preview I think EG would think the same as well. Don't judge a game by its EA cover, I'd say.
wattoo
19/07/05 @ 08:55
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There were a few typso and missing in that article.

As for the game, it sounds good, but I'm sure it's just hot EAir.

It will play like a crap GTA with mafia textures.
Teeth
19/07/05 @ 09:03
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wattoo: EG's articles are always full of typos and malformed sentences.

I'm not sure I'd enjoy this game. For me, the Godfather series and also other games about the mafia sent me the message that being part of it isn't a lot of fun at all.
asphaltcowboy
19/07/05 @ 09:36
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Wow... may actually be good. Who've guessed?
Of course, regardless of goodness, it'll sell by the bucketload :/
matrim83
19/07/05 @ 09:53
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Please enough with the "An offer you cant refuse" jokes. They belong in the refuse.
Genji
19/07/05 @ 09:55
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Ooooh, very nice. A problem with the GTA games (for me) was that I couldn't put myself into the main character's shoes. Neither Tommy Vercetti nor CJ really did it for me. Hope this can be different.
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matrim83
19/07/05 @ 09:58
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Umm hate to be pedantic but CJ = Carl Johnson
CJ Johnson = ??
Gurgeh
19/07/05 @ 10:01
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CJ didnt get where he was today by adding initials into his name
TimN
19/07/05 @ 10:11
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For some weird reason I'm actually quite excited about this game...
dadrester
19/07/05 @ 10:21
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of course if it is any good, the next gta game will pillage any of it's best features and be better ;)

[edit] is gta fanboy, but hopes this ends up as good as it sounds
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Xerx3s
19/07/05 @ 10:22
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/feels ashamed to have anything related to this crap and tosses out his Godfather dvd collection.
Psi
19/07/05 @ 10:43
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We need a razzies for the gaming industry, sept EA would win everything so maybe not.
Sid Nice
19/07/05 @ 10:47
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I thought the Godfather movies were an overrated load of tripe, glamorising the Mafia who are not too dissimilar to terrorists is wrong. It's ok for the Mafia to kill as everything is put right with a couple of Hail Mary's. :)
WooHoo!!!
19/07/05 @ 11:24
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I have seen some gameplay footage of this and it looks awful. Gameplay looks terrible. I will not buy this game.
Genji
19/07/05 @ 11:41
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CJ Johnson? Who said that? Where?
valli
19/07/05 @ 11:59
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This is one of the worst previews I've ever read. It sounds like most of those garbage games mags you can find on the shelves. Some of the writing gems:

Those assumptions are best left at the door. Respect, remember.

No, not a giant Mecha-Godzilla vehicle, and no, definitely not the fifteen hooker orgy mini-game.

In the face.' Pfft. Pesky semantics.

Yeah, why not. Pushing them into a wall, desk or some oncoming traffic? Sounds like we have a winnah!

Once the pad stops ticking, your target's no longer kicking. Eww.

As for everything else? We imagine the Godfather will take care of it. Pucker up, capo.


...and my favourite:

Professional, baby.

Indeed. I give this preview 2/10, almost as uninteresting as the game itself.

moggsy
19/07/05 @ 12:15
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But the trick is this: you get more respect in the game by getting your hands dirtier. Long range kills are too easy per se. But getting up close to someone, shooting them in the knees, then executing them gangland style gets the big boys noticing. As will strangling someone eye to eye – the victim's gradually faltering heart eerily represented by a throbbing in the controller. Once the pad stops ticking, your target's no longer kicking.

This game sounds sick. As someone has said the film was a gritty representation of a mafia family. To me the game sounds it's concentrating far too much on realistic killing. Not only that but you get greater rewards the more gruesome the death - a great education for our youngsters!

This leads to the debate about 'do videogames influence youngsters'? I don't know the answer to this but I would say 'yes a bit'. Read this news story for an example of what child violence can lead to:

click here

I think game makers should consider this when implementing violence in there games as even with an 18 certificate children will play this sort of game and I'm sure most adults will not get off on killing someone in a realistic fashion.
Freek
19/07/05 @ 12:50
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Nah. We certify media for a reason, some of it is suitabel for adults, some of it isn't. It's the responsibility for of retailers and parents to see it upheld. How it's always been, how it always will be. Games are no different.
And if you read the preview you'd have noticed that the game doesn't at all solely focus on killing. Since that isn't the goal of the game. You have to clime the gangster ladder and get as much power and influence as possilbe. You can't do that by randomly killing as many people as possible. A dead man can't pay you or help you, it's a last resort just like in the movies.

And the news item you linked to has nothing what so ever to do with video games, it deals with real world violonce and it's consequences.
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The Bodybuilder
19/07/05 @ 12:54
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So when is EA releasing "The Goodfellas" game?
allen
19/07/05 @ 14:34
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You guys never played as Carl Jesus Johnson ?
moggsy
19/07/05 @ 16:37
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Freek,

Sorry to sound like a Daily Mail reader but films and games ARE different. Games are interactive, you make decisions and moral judgements about how to interact with the other characters.

I'm not saying that killing in games will lead to a generation of mass murderers but the gradual errotion of what is deemed to be acceptable within a videogame needs to be sorted out, especially as game graphics become more and more realistic.

I can't see how anyone should be expected to get pleasure out of killing people in a gruesome manner - and this games seems to reward you the more gruesome the death. What's next - a plead for your life-o-meter along with realistic graphics of someone urinating themselves and emptying their bowels due to fright. Not a direction I personally want videogames to take...
kangarootoo
19/07/05 @ 16:58
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"as even with an 18 certificate children will play this sort of game"

Then surely the chain of supply is at fault. Censoring the content instead of strengthening control of the supply chain is avoiding the real problem. If supply was correctly policed (for want of a better word) the result would be more beneficial for everyone.

As for your webpage link, "for an example of what child violence can lead to". Errr, it wasn't a result of child violence, it WAS child violence. I have absolutely no idea why you thought it was a relevant link to post, as no connection was made to video games in the article.
Freek
19/07/05 @ 20:24
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You press buttons, that's not relivent to the ratings system. It's adult content and rated as such.
The argument has been going on since Doom and Mortal Kombat, games I (we, most of us here) and friends grew up with. We know it's fake, even when we were kids, it doesn't mess with your head and we're not serial killers.
Sure it's not rated for kids but you sneak a peak, play a bitt of it anyway. It doesn't matter. You know right from wrong even when you are young.

Why is it fun? Becuase it isn't real, it's fake, make believe. It's fun for the same reason that going on a rollercoaster or seeing scary movies is fun. It's a safe way to explore those emotions without anything going wrong or anybody being hurt. It's just entertainment, nothing more.

You personally don't enjoy it, that's fine, don't buy the game, simpel.
moggsy
19/07/05 @ 21:27
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Home Office pathologist Christopher Milroy examind the child and confirmed that "firm pressure" had been applied to his neck and throat

As will strangling someone eye to eye – the victim's gradually faltering heart eerily represented by a throbbing in the controller

The first quote is from a report of a near child murder, by another child.

The second is from a report about a videogame - an example of 'entertainment' in the 21st century.

Does no one agree that a line is about to be crossed? We don't need censorship, we need responsible game makers who provide adults with genuine adult entertainment not ever more bizarre ways of 'winning'. After all, it is supposed to be a game isn't it?
Furbs
19/07/05 @ 22:34
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No, we need responsible parenting so children arent exposed to it, whilst I as a fully grown adult with all my cognitive and moral functions can make an informed decision about what I buy. I like slasher horror, I like my war films to be grim representations of a real war. I want my mob films to reflect how harsh it is.
Is Friday the 13th of Nightmare on Elm Street mature? No, but does that mean an adult shouldnt be allowed to get off on cheap frights and enjoy a decent no brainer whilst underdeveloped minds arent *by law*?

Ask anyone who works in Game, its the most frustrating thing in the world. You sell an 18 rated game to a parent with child in tow, and no matter how hard you try to explain the content, they dont listen.

For once lets take the onus away from the media, away from the companies, away from the retailers and ask ourselves how it can be that a kid of 12 can afford a £40 game on a £150 console without the parent being involved.

Children see 18 rated films. Lets ban them too. In fact, lets take it a step further. Whats the greatest unregulated medium to which most children have almost daily access to, where even an innocent query can bring up the sickest shit imaginable. Goddamnit, BAN THIS SICK INTERNET FILTH!!!
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Freek
19/07/05 @ 23:56
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It's just pixels and pollygons, so no, I don't think a line is being crossed. Infact I'd say there's a long way to go before visuals get so graphic it becomes disturbing. It's just not real enough, not by a long shot, a rumbling controller doesn't change that either.

We like to explore our darker side in entertainment. To play a character on the wrong side of the law, it's cool just like it's cool to read about it or see movies about it. Hence you hear/see lots of people quoting Pulp Fiction and the Godfather.

The people who die or are killed aren't real, just actors and 3D models, that's why it doesn't bother anybody, you know nothing wrong is going on, just special effects and animations.

The fact that kids see 18 rated content doesn't matter either, we all did. Sneaked off to a friends house to see Chuckie or Halloween or play Mortal Kombat. It diden't mess you up. The ratings should stay, obviously, but it's not the end of the world that they get broken.
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spillz
20/07/05 @ 02:26
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"As will strangling someone eye to eye – the victim's gradually faltering heart eerily represented by a throbbing in the controller"

next we'll be designing controllers that hook on to our nether regions so we can really get off on the "sick filth"... there is something faintly disturbing about the reflected physicality of the act of murder...
Triggerhappytel
13/08/05 @ 01:48
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EA director #1: "I think we should make a third-person GTA-style game."
EA director #2: "Sounds good. What did you have in mind?"
#1: "Well, we could make up a new franchise and develop from a scratch a decent and accomplished game, much like Rockstar North did with GTA."
#2 (looking unsure): "Riiight..."
#1: "Or, we could just buy the rights to a popular franchise and tack on any old crap to it?!"
#2: "That's more like it!! Promotions all around!!"
Cue lots of laughing & back slapping, possibly whilst lighting cigars with burning bank notes.

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