Noel Gallagher links games to knife crime Comments by Robert Purchese

yes, it's way past your day, mate :)

knob and end

Dr. Noel Gallagher phd.

Professional Games Psychology Scientician.

A CELEBRITY has spoken, it is our duty to report this as news.

It's bizarre because hearing Oasis makes me want to kill people.

Of course it's games duh!! Who really thinks it has something to do with poverty, gang culture, family breakdown, loss of faith in authority, unsafe streets etc etc.....

I guess there is also a link between being in a band and being a twat, just look at you and your brother Noel......

Can I link the explosion in Coke use in the 90s to Noel Gallagher?

Noel Gallagher is right up there with Bono on my "List of Twats"

I think he's got one thing right - it could well be the 'sitting up all night smoking illegal substances' thing that's doing it! Maybe combined with a lack of education, things to do and a sense of social responsibility.

he's always had fuck all to say and this is no exception.

i bet he just cant get that mile high achievement on cod4

Oh, so it's games. I thought it was TV and cinema glamorising gang culture . I'd best buy myself a knife and go out then.

The headline should really say "Rock music bloke is getting on a bit, and starting to say old bloke type things". I find myself doing it sometimes these days (regarding how all kids seem to stabbing each other, when of course they aren't really), except I try use my brain when thinking of which words to put in a sentence.

I mean...

"If kids are sitting up all night smoking super skunk and they come so desensitised to crime because they're playing these videogames, it's really, really scary."

Those are just a bunch of otherwise unconnected scary words, all strung together in a line. I think the big fat "if" at the start of sentence is really the clincher.

"If kids are sitting all all night, drinking bleach and learning black magic and training dragons to eat pensioners, and they come [sic] desensitised to drowning because they are playing these video games, its really really really scary and also quite terrifying and wrong."

See, anyone can do it using the power of "if".

He probably has got something of a point though. Games could contribute to the problem, as could everything else that he has listed. The thing is, its undeniable that games would have some effect on the person playing them, as would any other visual and interactive media/illeagal subject/role model/poor upbringing. What I don't like is when games are singled out as the only cause, and most of the times it us gamers who read this type of thing, immediatly jump on our high horse and get really vocal about our hobby, like all of the people above this post, the majority below and 99% of the comments in other news threads of the same nature.

i thought it was music glamourising gang culture....

Is this the guy from the band who once wished their rival band died of AIDS?

If he wants to prevent street crime, he should stop his nutjob of a brother from going out and starting fights.

i like joystiq's article

"If kids are sitting up all night smoking super skunk"

You don't think the "super skunk" might have something to do with it?

Just like his music - mouth opens and nothing but complete sewage comes spilling out!

Yea, a fucking larger lout complaining about levels of violence

just stick to trying to be cool, you fucking shabby cunt gallagher, you weren't fucking cool years ago, and you ain't fucking cool now

christ, i hate oasis, i hate Gallagher, i hate him so much i wish his fucking throat would explode, and a giant old woman would squat over him and pish acid into his hairy, fucking stupidface.

listening to oasis' music makes me want to kill people

Weird - I always thought that Noel was meant to be the one with the Gallagher family brain cell?

anomagnus - you are one fucked up freak arent you? did your dad bum you whilst listening to wonderwall really loud? is this where your uncontrollable rage against Oasis comes from?

@stoopidgreg - I also like Kotaku's article from 3 days ago. EG are getting a bit late.

You don't think the "super skunk" might have something to do with it?

Wouldn't that make you calmer rather than more violent, though?

I blame Oasis for desensitising me to the harmful effects of cigarettes and alcohol in 1994.

...... or maybe its down to social deprivation,lack of education, lack of social opportunity,lack of personal responsibility and absence of father figures Gallagher you stupid manc cunt.
Super skunk my arse - he sounds like my grandad.

Poor Noel. Rap music, computer games - he's obviously been reading The Daily Mail. What's his next target? My money's on either illegal immigrants or house prices.

He's a prick.

'EG are getting a bit late'

EG must be carbon neutral from all the 4 day old storys it recycles ;)

What a t**t-neck. Years singing / playing about doing white lines and boasting about thieving on the estate he grew up on and now he pulls a Keith Vaz.

Move on Grandad, and try writing some decent music instead of your moribund Quoasis tripe, you T-Rex riff-thieving monkey gimp.

It's the first time I've read it, so it's worth posting!


er... yeah that's debatable too...

Get of your high horse Nick_JC1, it has less to do with gaming and more to do with using lame scapegoats instead of speaking out on the real causes and issues leading youth on a path of crime and violence. Coming from fun filled Manchester he should be fully aware of the real problems which cause crime.

quite simply, cunt.

Is he just narked because the Verve had a love-in with Jay Z at Glastonbury?

That said, kids couldn't walk the Glasto mud at night for fear of super-skunked hippies knifing their faces off shouting about their 99 bitch problems!

I have come to realise that Mr Gallagher really is a true visionary genius to rank alongside Noam Chomsky as the greatest political theorist of our times.

Games are obviously not the sole cause of any kind of crime but gamers should have the honesty to admit that games that simulate brutal murder and other horrible activities will have *some* form of effect on the psyche of the gamer. How this affects the gamer is down to the individual so you can not make blanket statements on how it affects people or not ("I play Manhunt 2 all the time and I'm a perfectly balanced person who contributes to society in all sorts of positive ways therefore games can't be blamed for anything.").

Kids should not be left to take all their behavioral cues from any single media outlet but unfortunately, in the absence of proper parental input or [insert blame here], some kids take *all* of their cues from games and TV.

Anyway, we're doomed because what's broken here is not gaming, TV, or whatever, it's the social fabric. We're doubly doomed because everyone keeps on pushing the blame onto anyone else but themselves when in fact it's *everyone's* fault.

I could happily launch into a dissertation on this but I prefer keeping this kind of topic for the pub.

Cheers,

Tessa

they make SUPER skunk now? woooaaahhh.

this is the guy who wanted people in a rival band to get AIDS and die, right?

It's bizarre because hearing Oasis makes me want to kill people.

Me too. Specifically, it makes me want to kill Oasis.

If games were to blame for the rise in violence we'd be seeing a huge escalation in deaths by rpgs, ak-47s, crowbars, katanas, uzis, tortoise shells, sniper rifles, nail guns, rail guns, nun-chuks, shotguns, autocannons and small black spherical explosives with BOM written on them. With a few exceptions knives in games generally suck, so that would be the last thing you'd seek to emulate.


Having said that, I've been playing a lot of Civilization Revolution recently, and I'm just off to invade France with my catapult (sadly it's just a black widow rather than a mighty siege engine, but I've been rushing tech, so I'm hoping their defences aren't too advanced).

LOL @ Stoatboy

Super skunk and RTS games to blame for rise in tyrants invading France :)

I myself now live in a cardboard box after playing MGS4.....

"Yea, a fucking larger lout complaining about levels of violence

just stick to trying to be cool, you fucking shabby cunt gallagher, you weren't fucking cool years ago, and you ain't fucking cool now

christ, i hate oasis, i hate Gallagher, i hate him so much i wish his fucking throat would explode, and a giant old woman would squat over him and pish acid into his hairy, fucking stupidface."

said a violent video gamer, earlier today.

"You don't think the "super skunk" might have something to do with it? "

Err, no.

@TessaTickle

"Kids should not be left to take all their behavioral cues from any single media outlet but unfortunately, in the absence of proper parental input or [insert blame here], some kids take *all* of their cues from games and TV."

Is it not rather the point that kids should not be taking ANY cues from violent adult rated games, and that parents should be preventing their kids from playing said games (lest they turn out all angry like anomagnus).

As I mentioned, the big fat "If" at the start of Mr Gallagher's sentence is often used to legitimise whatever follows, but "if" kids are playing 18 games whilst smoking skunk, somewhere there is parent that needs a sturdy kick up the arse.

Its not the super skunk- its the yellow bentines and cake that is the real culprit.

Fact: my dad's mate taught The Gallaghers in Manchester at Barlow High School, Didsbury, where Liam still holds the school record for getting beaten up the most times in one day.

Good job knives weren't such a big deal back then, eh Noel?

now thats status

@ kangeratoo

You sound like you like the man, defending him like that

firstly, i never said i would hurt him, i simply wished for harm to befall him, didnt he also wish some people to develop aids and die?

Can any of you prove hes wrong?