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No homosexuality in Star Wars - BioWare News

PC MMO News by Ellie Gibson

28 April, 2009

BioWare has banned users of the Knights of the Old Republic forum from discussing the subject of homosexuality.

Some threads had been set up discussing the potential issues around gay relationships within the game. The threads have since been locked, and the words "homosexual", "lesbian" and "gay" are censored on the forum.

Even discussions of the ban are being locked. At the bottom of the thread "GLBT discrimination in forums?", community manager Sean Dahlberg wrote, "As I have stated before, these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars. Thread closed."

You sure about all this, Sean? Only there was a lesbian character in one of BioWare's very own games, according to GayGamer.net.

Let's start a war.

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bad09
28/04/09 @ 08:13
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gay...
mingster
28/04/09 @ 08:18
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was it jar jar binks
Waffleaber
28/04/09 @ 08:19
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I've always though Boba Fett was gay.
Lukree
28/04/09 @ 08:19
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"these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars"

Thanks to BioWare & Lucas imperium for supporting more open and liberal world!
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28/04/09 @ 08:19
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Jeez. Talking about dropping a few levels on the cool scale there. Anyone still wonder why games can't be seen as mature and adult entertainment if a pretty common subject is outright banned and never to be spoken about.

Fuck you and your hetero universe.

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Spielo
28/04/09 @ 08:20
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I really shouldn't let stupid shit like this make me as angry as it does, but I find this utterly infuriating.
Goffee
28/04/09 @ 08:20
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But C3P0 always needed lubrication
Freek
28/04/09 @ 08:21
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Sounds like nice PR clusterf#ck in the making. I geuse they diden't learn from the Live PR dissaster from a few months ago.
Ninja_Tino
28/04/09 @ 08:26
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Terms don't exist in Star Wars? Ha, could he have wrote a more stupid reply. What a knob. This is not something I expected to see from a big company.
Shrui
28/04/09 @ 08:29
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Kiss another dude != Star Wars

Kissing your sister = Star Wars

mingster
28/04/09 @ 08:30
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gofee is right it was obviously c3p0 he liked golden oil showers
ZuluHero
28/04/09 @ 08:30
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Before anyone says anything, Obi-Wan's love for Qui-Gon was purely platonic...
PlugMonkey
28/04/09 @ 08:31
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I always suspected George Lucas was a nazi.
deadmonkeyuk
28/04/09 @ 08:31
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Star Wars = Iran
Shrui
28/04/09 @ 08:31
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Also, they were pretty cool about Obi Wan being a gay paedophile in the Family Guy special.
des
28/04/09 @ 08:33
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Ah poor gays...
SpaceMidget75
28/04/09 @ 08:36
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Doesn't bother me as I'm not gay.

/runs
Plewt
28/04/09 @ 08:38
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Bioware - lacking taste and style ever since BG2.
MisterCraig
28/04/09 @ 08:38
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Just thought I'd add to the general opinion.

This is very stupid. Bioware +100 renegade/ evil points

i.e. you're idiots.
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Plewt
28/04/09 @ 08:39
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Spacemidget genocide...

Doesn't bother me since I'm not a spacemidget.
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kangarootoo
28/04/09 @ 08:43
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Feeble.
PearOfAnguish
28/04/09 @ 08:50
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So weird alien sex and incest is okay, but you can't kiss another dude?
Beek4257
28/04/09 @ 08:50
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Did anyone check whether the term 'hetero' exists in Star Wars (/Bioware forums)? If not, then it's sort of a bit less wrong I guess. Maybe.
ManicDrunkMonk
28/04/09 @ 08:52
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Bioware: making games set a thousand years in the future, with values from a thousand years in the past.

Bioware, time to grow up!
peak_performance
28/04/09 @ 08:57
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Well actually Star Wars is set a very long time ago...
Kelduum
28/04/09 @ 08:57
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From Wookieepedia, the Starwars Wiki: "Homosexuality and same-sex marriage were apparently accepted by the Mandalorians, as Goran Beviin and Medrit Vasur were an openly homosexual married couple living on Mandalore, who were fully integrated into Mandalorian society."
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorian

So, yes, there is homosexuality in Star Wars.

Edit: Damn you links!
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Xerx3s
28/04/09 @ 08:58
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"Sounds like nice PR clusterf#ck in the making. I geuse they diden't learn from the Live PR dissaster from a few months ago."

You mean the PR disaster where they are trying to protect gay users from pricks and are openly in discussion with gay rights groups about how they can improve their service in this respect?
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28/04/09 @ 09:01
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Sean Dahlberg wrote, "As I have stated before, these are terms that do not exist in Star Wars. Thread closed."

We don't actually live in a Star Wars universe, idiot. Which is totally gayish anyway.
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28/04/09 @ 09:01
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Wow, I'm normally not one to get riled up about stuff like this because the way I see it it's still a thorny issue that people have a hard time dealing with, whether we like it or not. But I've never seen it handled in such an offensive way - not even Microsoft's recent shenanigans match up to this.
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28/04/09 @ 09:02
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Man, they are being so gay about it.
</WhatTheyAreBanning>
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GamesConnoisseur
28/04/09 @ 09:04
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Arrgh! No chance of seeing two gorgeous females of whatever species getting together?! Bugger and darn them to hell!
Meho
28/04/09 @ 09:06
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far away, before homosexuality was invented...
Kluff
28/04/09 @ 09:07
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You know, while Star Wars is a universe of gigantic proportions, with countless stories/characters/planets, it's the small personal space between people that is in parts still unexplored. There are still many question marks in this area and, apparently, some want to let them remain.
I guess the clear distinction between good and evil vanishes for Bioware when homosexuality comes into play?

Well, I'm not angry about it, I was kinda surprised when I heard that KotOR featured a lesbian character, it's not what I expected from this franchise. That the discussion was so outright blocked is kinda infuriating, though. Like it shouldn't exist. Like they don't want to hear about it. Like, without acknowledging homosexuality and without it happening, the world would be a better place.

Now, that's the most pretentious reply I ever wrote. Hooray!
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28/04/09 @ 09:08
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If the campest space-opera fantasy in the world doesnt have gays and lesbians, there is something very wrong with that galaxy.
TheSnotGoblin
28/04/09 @ 09:13
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It seems strange coming from Bioware seeing as they've peppered their games with homosexual characters for years now. Mainly lesbians (sound marketing after all) like Juhani the gay cat lady in KotOR but certainly Jade Empire included hot man on man action (and threesomes).

But every other one of their games has been made by Bioware in Edmonton, Canada. The Old Republic is being made by Bioware Austin. In Texas. Which means their outlook kinda makes a little more sense.

I expect to see some kind of about turn on the issue.
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28/04/09 @ 09:17
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I bet some PR persons at Bioware feel their ulcers acting up right now.
Ninja_Tino
28/04/09 @ 09:27
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Bloody Southern Americans then. Anyone see Miley 'I'm a Twat' Cyrus on Jonathan Ross? She did not acknowledge the Four Puffs once, nor the Piano for that matter.
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28/04/09 @ 09:29
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Mental Process He Missed Before Opening His Big Mouth:

"Are there any characters that can be made gay in the game I'm the Community Manager of?"

If yes, don't create a new homophobic policy. Else, continue.
Buztafen
28/04/09 @ 09:35
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Ive heard Bioware melt babies......and gay people....
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28/04/09 @ 09:54
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that is absolutely disgraceful behavior. I sincerely hope that this blows up into a serious PR clusterfuck for bioware and Lucasarts.
Eraysor
28/04/09 @ 10:06
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Useless Bioware.

Reputation -1
kinky_mong
28/04/09 @ 10:08
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"Talking about dropping a few levels on the cool scale there."

A company who make Stars Wars games are already rock bottom on the cool scale.
Maykael
28/04/09 @ 10:12
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Star Wars The Old Republic - A game about the old christ.. jedi values where a marriage should only be between a man and a female wookie or a twi'lek and a mandalorian or a clone male and a clone female under the blessing of Go.. the Force! Hey there's something wrong about this..
spidermanalf
28/04/09 @ 10:18
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Boba Fett is not gay,

http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/F...

It says so in his song! Lyrics above

Song below

http://mc-chris-boba-fett-mp3-download.k...
j-bo
28/04/09 @ 10:19
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Regular reader from Gaygmer here:

You know what I love about Eurogamer - I read about this on kotaku and invariably the general brunt of responses is the generic, ignorant "hyukk hyukk gee maw those them there faggots are sick, hyukk hyukk", then I come here and read some actual intelligent, liberal, open minded responses from folks who aren't necessarily biased towards the LGBT community, yet can see stupidity and bigotry when they spot it regardless.

you folks rock.
keyboardmonkey
28/04/09 @ 10:22
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Just mentioning the words "homosexual", "lesbian" and "gay" on a forum means all the forum members are more susceptible to catching the Aids

Doh! what have i done... we are all doomed..
Azazel
28/04/09 @ 10:25
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Reputation -2
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28/04/09 @ 10:29
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So it's okay for a guy to kiss his own sister in Star Wars, but no homo sexuality whatsoever?

Something isn't right there...
Embra
28/04/09 @ 10:35
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Guess Anthony Daniels won't be appearing in any Bioware games in the near future.
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28/04/09 @ 10:38
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What is the big deal? Self-censorship is the worst. Bioware even have a gay character in their game.

Persona4's main character is gay inside. Gay is not scary, what scarier is how outside world treat them like they don't exist. If STar war has a gay character in the new movie, it would be a classic instead it give us full of BS characters. Learn from Kojima, man!

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