No Gears of War 2 at E3 News

Anyone who thought differently is a bloody fool IMO.

I'd like to hear some more about the supposed user modding of UT3. I've got a feeling it's been misrepresented on the net.

i thought E3 was no more?

Say wut?

You mean the rumor of how it's going to be timed console PS3 exclusive because Sony allows user created content, and MS thinks it undermines their XBLM business?

I played GoW for the first time in 3 moths again. Didn't do anything for me anymore.

Steroyd: Yes that. Bullshit I think :)

ZuluHero: No, now we have E3 and E4. Bonus!

There not makein the game because the 360 kept brakein down on then and they got pistoff with it like i did....(ho no i better run byyyyyyye)

Even the most rabid MS fanboy's gonna have a hard time arguing that the 360 doesn't break down lots ;).

@menage - "I played GoW for the first time in 3 moths again. Didn't do anything for me anymore."

Ditto... I tried it last night as I've just got a new Sony HDTV and wanted to see how it looked. Sure, it still looks fantastic but the gameplay isn't anything special; it's very linear and, on occasion, somewhat... ummm... dull... watch long cutscene, find cover, shoot some stuff, move on, watch another cutscene, find some more cover, shoot some more stuff, move on and so on. At times, it feels like an Xbox game with prettier graphics really as there's absolutely nothing innovative or original about it beyond the incredible graphics and audio.

Good. That means they will atleast take some time for it. If only they would implement a decent party system like the one in shadow run.

@ Darren

My exact same feelings. It's just boring as hell. You do the exact same thing over and over again. I loved it in the beginning, but now I even think Lost Planets better.

I dunno Disc, it carries a little bit more weight when you hear stuff like Blizzard(?).... the Geometry Wars devs wanted to put GW for free, and rumors that ties between Epic and MS were waning because MS is charging for the type of content which goes against Epic's PC dev roots.

It's not the first time that a rumor of this type has existed, so i wouldn't be so quick to call it BS, but I'm not going to run away with the rumor either.

I was kind of pleasantly suprised by Gears. I managed to avoid a large part of the hype so that probably helped. Given that I'm the kind of person who normally plays games like Okami I really wasn't expecting to think much of it but I found it to be a really good game. I would consider myself pretty jaded when it comes to games but I don't think it deserved a lot of the criticism it got.

Part of me thinks it was largely criticised mainly because it was successful (like another MS exclusive ...) and not really because it was a bad game.

Steroid: epic shot down the rumours of ut3 (temp) exclusivity months ago.

>"but now I even think Lost Planets better. "

Let's not get too hasty now.

Translation

Announce a new Gears! Are you mad! We haven't nearly fleeced enough money out of the gullible fools playing the first one. Look for the asnnouncement when we release the free maps later this year and interest is low aftre bio-shock and mass effect.

Yeah but didn't the rumor re-appear recently this month.

It doesn't matter anyway I won't be surprised either way.

"Did you see the update we just did for Gears of War last week? We're still working on the first one."

Well stop workin on it and start workin on the next iteration of the SP/Coop game!!

UT is the online component for yer deathmatch types surely.

Give us more SP/Coop

Jeez - I remember coming on here when Gears was first released and panning it and I got pelters! Now everyone is at it!

I said it before and I'll say it again: Most. Overated. Game. Ever.

Go buy Crackdown - it's actually a bit good.

SharkVLion: UT3 apparently has a new singleplayer mode with storyline for the characters you play. Making it a departure for the series.

Gears of war is fucking great, haters have shit taste.

wow..such dislike of GoW...i don't understand it.

it has a solid SP, superb co-op (actually one of the best implementations ever, imho) and a very solid MP. SUre there are bugs, glitches and there's lag , and the old host advantage..but every game has that (bar the host thingy, i never noticed that untill GoW).

not to mention the stunning gfx i get on my 10+ years old telly..

aaaaanyway. WHo ever thought a GoW 2 would be announced anythime soon is either new to this world of gaming, or just plain dumb.

It's just 'cool' to hate gears so most people pretend it's the worst game ever, when it's really a solid shooter that many people enjoy.

"It's just 'cool' to hate gears so most people pretend it's the worst game ever, when it's really a solid shooter that many people enjoy."

+1

Sometimes the comments on EG are really quite pathetic. Gears is one of the best shooters released in the last 10 years. The cover system and active reload are more innovative than 90% of shooters out there. In fact I don't believe a third person shooter had been done well before Gears. Eight months after it's released it's still the best looking game on the market. Co-Op is immense.

Stop whining, it's a great game. Or would you rather push some mediocre "indy" game (like psychonauts) as the second coming to look cool?

Look, I can do it too: On these comments, MEH!

>"Stop whining, it's a great game. Or would you rather push some mediocre "indy" game (like psychonauts) as the second coming to look cool? "

That's one thing I definately hate in this place.
People seem to have a strong dislike for any western action game that gets hyped (unless it's a sequel to a beloved PC classic, or it involved japanese boys with spiky hair and giant swords), whilst lapping up any indy game they like.

It's like those annoying movie critics that hate blockbusters (and frown upon those who don't share thier love for the cinema) whilst overhyping some bulgarian movie about leaking tap (in black and white) to overcompensate.

Gears is a great game. Get over it people.

I don't think Gears is a rubbish game, just overrated. Personally, it wouldn't make my top ten Xbox 360 games, and I feel it deserves no more than 7/10 now. Polished and gorgeous looking, it's certainly a good game but far from great in my view. Whoever came up with that dreadful low running camera needs shooting if you ask me. When they do the sequel, they really need to make that viewpoint optional as I found it annoying as it blocked my view on too many occasions, particularly in narrow corridors and spaces.

P.S. I never got into the multiplayer at all, I found it dull (I'm not the greatest fan of online games anyway), so my views on the game are based entirely on the all-too-short single player/co-op campaign.

Well. all we said that we didn't think it was the second coming. i bought it. Loved it for 2 days but I've never finished it because I lost interest. No one said it was a bad game. Just a bit boring.

But seeing as we get all these heated reactions there must be some fans here huh? Funny how people can't stand people having a diffrent opinion then theirs. And call us EG Japanese alternative fanboys. When it's just the same the other way around.

@Darren

Can you name some better third person shooters? I think you'll find the list is quite short. Maybe it just isn't the genre for you, because Gears is as good as it gets.

"Funny how people can't stand people having a diffrent opinion then theirs."

I have no problem with different opinions. However the vocal minority patting each other on the back is something I'm less fond of. Just thought I'd chime in that not everyone thinks Gears is a huge disappointment/crappy game.

"I have no problem with different opinion. However the vocal minority patting each others backs is something I'm less fond of."

It wasn't intended that way, but I can see how you could misunderstand what I meant. I just agreed with him that's all.

Gears is a wicked game, great fun, great graphics n stunning sfx.. v atmospheric too. Over hyped yes, but shit! No way

F*ck off haters... go play on ur PS3 with all ur great games

Interestingly, I played Gears again the other week for the first time in a few months and I enjoyed it a whole lot more than the first run through. Playing on insane is immensely satisfying and the atmosphere is terrific. Everything feels really frantic and immersive. It's gone from a 7 or 8 out of 10 game to a definite 9. For me at least.

Fine I will go off and play on my PS2 **** next gen in the arse.

Sorry got caught up in the moment. o_O

manic_mouse - "@Darren

Can you name some better third person shooters? I think you'll find the list is quite short. Maybe it just isn't the genre for you, because Gears is as good as it gets."

That still doesn't make it an amazing game though, just the best in its genre. However, I judge it against other shooters, first person or otherwise, and in that respect Gears is really nothing special as far as I'm concerned. It's just a good game but not what I'd consider a classic like, say, Halo or Half-Life 2 were. If it were judged on its graphics though, it would be the best game ever, ever, EVER! LOL

Sequel name and other exciting Gears info at the GoW2 Eurogamer group, here!

Roll up, Gears fans!

:o)

thay prob have only just got past the drawing board it must take 2 years at the min to make a game like Gow.

Slow news day?

how very original to reduce the discussion to a 'it's your opinion, not a fact'..my kid brother just learned that one, the whole subjective experience and all...quite mature indeed.


my point, as thankfully a lot have agreed with, is that GoW is a solid game. It is not as some stated 'rubbish' it does not have a crappy cover system..that's ludacris. The whole cover system was heraulded as one of the most innovating implementations in 3rd person shooters.


GoW not making it in to anyone's top 10, is quite possible. One might wonder which games DID make it into that list, but hey. I suppose action games are just not your thing then, fair enough.

as far as the overrated thing. from an 'neutral'perspective (gfx/sound/gameplay) it deserved pretty much all of the attention it got before release (aka 'hype').

as far as actual experience, that's where opinions come into play. SO a real gamer would simply say this:

good looking, action packed solid shooter, just not my cup of tea.

(that is, if you're not trying to stir up GoW-fans, which i think was your point to begin with)

@biker_bob
"Playing Rainbow 6 at that time had a far better and more intuative way of covering."

errrrrrrrrrrrrrr no

@DutchDemons - Since you were kind of asking, my top 10 360 games are as follows:

1. Oblivion/Shivering Isles
2. Viva Pinata
3. Virtua Tennis 3
4. Burnout Revenge
5. Forza Motorsport 2
6. PGR 3
7. F.E.A.R.
8. Rockstar's Table Tennis
9. Condemned
10. Kameo

I think Gears of War would be around 18th or 19th below Call of Duty 2 and 3 which had least had a decent lengthly campaign mode and a multiplayer mode I enjoyed (even if I'm not a big fan of online gaming). ;)

@ Darren ( and I dont know who else since Im falling asleep from working all night so wont read all comments )

Gears of War you said it might be the best 3rd Person Shooter. Ok That more likelly meens that YOU arent the kind of person that like 3rd Persoon Shooters or just action games in general as much. So I think that people like you souldnt come out and talk about Gears of War at all. The same reason why most chicks dont log in websites like these to say their opinions. Same way most of people dont like Baseball cant tell me their opinion on a team. SAME WAY all the morons that keep talking about Gears of War when they just bought a PS3 ( *YaY Sony brought the next gen in my room* kids. better l8r than never though ), they cant be telling me or anyone else what they think of such a game since they cant even get to play it.

Gears of War is the best at it's kind for sure, it's the only game of the kind that never lets you get bored, amazing graphics, amazing sound, extremely smart both single and multiplayer modes and its got great gameplay. Plus great for a splitscreen coop with your buddy. Most apriciated in this kind of game. So i see nothing missing from this game. Brought all the fuckin sonybots to full activation. One more reason to love this game. It really hurt some of them.

Probably they will get to play on PS4 the Gears of War Sigma and that will still make them happy. ^^

While I didn't find Gears boring the first play through, I certainly have no desire to play through it again as it's the exact same experience and ramping up the difficultly level doesn't make it more enjoyable either. Had the harder difficulty levels offered different routes/enemies, etc., then it might have been more interesting but as it is it's a very short game with little replay value for me and not even as good as I remembered Halo being all those years ago. I love third-person action games actually but I've played so many over the years that Gears just doesn't stand out for me in any way other than graphically. The multiplayer mode is boring though, I didn't like that at all.

Gears of War's reload mechanic is probably the most innovative thing to have happened to any shooter for a while.

After playing it and you go to another shooter you sort of think "hey where'd it go!?".

In multiplayer it could make the difference between winning and losing. Mastering it with a sniper rifle was absolutely key, and the fact that it was mapped to a bumper meant that even if you were running/jumping ducking/diving, you could still perform an active reload if you were well-practiced.

@ Darren. You should think again. Going though on "insane" certianly does reward you with a different experience. The enemies are tougher, smarter and much more aggressive. This makes the whole gameplay dynamic change, and it also become A LOT more challenging. I would recommend playing it through with a friend on-line though - one of the best (if a bit short) co-op experiences out there. Not too much plot, just plenty of action and having to rely on one another.