No current plans for 80GB PS3 News

MEH!

Lol and so the HDD size war begins between MS and Sony.

Mine's bigger than yours ;).

Bluetooth tweaks? Are there problems with the bluetooth in the first gen PS3's then?

There's a problem with Bluetooth itself: http://www.short-media.com/articles/blue...

Then again, you can just buy a regular PC hard disk and put it in the PS3 anyway.

Exactly. It makes it a bit pointless to release a new SKU where HDD space is the only difference.

WHY? you can just buy a regular HDD...

"The 80GB we're not making a comment on, but we don't have any plans at the moment,"

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"We're not making a comment on that", said the panicky Sony rep, right before making a comment on it. :-)

If it's to phase out the 20GB (who makes 20GB anyway?), and replace the 20GB with the 60GB which that version is replaced by the 80GB, without raising the price or introducing a new SKU then it would make sense.

On the other hand how are people going to justify buying the 80GB over the 60GB if there's a $100 difference and the PS3 accepts any HDD.

Very interesting to see what Sony actually does if they do bring in a 80GB whether it's an additional SKU or to phase out the 20GB SKU.

Releasing a new PS3 with a slightly bigger HDD allready would be a mistake... and one so big I doubt even Sony would make ;)

This is bulllshit fud.. If i want i can upgrade to a 5000gb hdd. Stop the fud eeurogamer.

They probably just plan to increase the size of the drive in the top end machine at no extra cost some time in the next year or 2. And thought they'd save on processing charges by including it with the Blue Tooth adjustments.

Even if they do, it wouldn't be before Christmas time. And with that price difference, I also think I'd be better off just upgrading the HDD.

"Bluetooth tweaks? Are there problems with the bluetooth in the first gen PS3's then? "

Yes... that is why MS opted for a custom tech for wireless controllers. BlueTooth is not very good for this due to interference. These hardware changes might solve the sync problems.

Stop the fud eurogamer. Anyone owning a ps3 can already upgrade there hdd.

It has to be bogus... It (kind of) made sense for the 360 but not for the PS3. What's the point when you can put any HDD in?

They probably just plan to increase the size of the drive in the top end machine at no extra cost some time in the next year or 2. And thought they'd save on processing charges by including it with the Blue Tooth adjustments.
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It's nonsense. Someones spreading fud again. Anyone owning a ps3 can already upgrade there ps3 to whatever hdd they want.

Aaah. Eurogamer got this nonsense from kotaku. That explains it all.

"It's nonsense. Someones spreading fud again. Anyone owning a ps3 can already upgrade there ps3 to whatever hdd they want. "

Yes they can but there will be a time, possibly not too far in futur when a 80Gb drive will actually be cheaper then a 60Gb drive so would make sence for them to have it as an option (The later models of the original xbox had bigger drives then the first models for this same reason, just they never made a big thing about the HDD size in the machine anyway) and as they were filing paper to the FCC any way it made sence to include this to save a little extra.

But I complete agree that this is no news FUD by eurogamer, but doesn't change the fact that that was what they filed to the FCC!

/EDIT missed an 'a'

But can the hdd be upgraded to any size. I haven't checked, but I thought the PS3 hdd size was 2.5 inch, which is notebook size and not 3.5inch are used for desktops.

large >200gb 2.5 inch drives seem harder to come by than 3.5 ones.

The filing is to fix the blue tooth issues. The drive size is probably simply a natural upgrade of the 60 to 80. This isn't a new model or anything like that. It probably wasn't even menat to be noticed i.e. how shafted would (well now I guess it's do) the current owners feel knowing that their kit has known blue tooth issues with controllers and syncing and the new ariel in the filed model sorts that. It's worse when you realise you can't retrofit this part due to circuit board changes!

Is this like MS levels of denial?

No it's Nintendo levels of denial.

We're not making a DSlite...honest.

*one month later*

Not only can you upgrade the PS3 drive as has been mentioned numerous times, but the HDD you remove is of course also standard so you can flog it on to further reduce the upgrade cost.

There IS no competition between MS and Sony on the HDD front as I see it. Its a done deal.

*one month later*

I believe it was 2 days actually.

Anyway, what's up with all this stuff. Seriously, do we NEED bigger HDD'S? At the end of the life of my xbox, I only used about 30% of the HDD space. With my 360, 90% is filled with crap that really doesn't matter anyway (and will be deleted when I can be bothered to clean the HDD up). People seem to compare console HDD's with PC HDD's. Truth is, you wont be needing that stuff for games (you know, the reason we buy consoles) because you can delete and redownload stuff as you see fit. 30-60 gig is more than enough.

After one full year of console use, my HDD's is filled with just over 500 mb of savegames and another 1 gig of DLC. The rest are just trailers.

The only point when larger HDD's will become relevant in Europe is when Sony and MS introduce their DD film services in Europe. And when you hear the comments from MS, that won't be any time soon (because film and tv companies sell the rights to European broadcasters and theatres, allowing people to download here would be a violation of those contracts - nothing that MS can do about them). Even so, it would still be irrelevant for the purpose of the console: Games.

/anecdotal rant off

Is this like MS levels of denial?
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Denial of what?

Them EA, pop sideway ads are bloody doing me head in!

@Xerxes:

I have 60GB of music alone, and nearly all PC demos are more than 1GB in size - I'd imagine PS3 demos will be much the same.

You might want consoles to just be games machines, but like it or not PS3 is marketed as a media hub, so extra space for audio/visual content is hardly "irrelevant".

Both companies are talking about IPTV and related tivo type functions. That sort of thing needs a decent chunk of storage if you want to get the best out of it.

I have 60GB of music alone

Yeah, but the question is: Do you want to put that on your server? As it stands now, I have a media server that is doing it's job just fine. It doesn't need to be replaced by some halfarsed solution that is locked down by drm crap. My 360 streams everything from the server just fine, the ps3 will do that as well. Why would I need the HDD when the console in the end will be nothing more than a frontend to the real media hub?

The pc is the one and only media hub a person needs and consoles can complement that by streaming functions but there really is no need to replace the pc with a device that can do less.

My PS3 now has a 160 GB HDD but it was a bitch taking the screws off the internal caddy as not only were the screws needlessly overtight but they're also cheaply made so it's all to easy to strip them as I found out...

@Xerx3s (sorry, spelt it wrong before):

I couldn't agree more with you. If you want a home media hub, a PC (or two) is by far the best way to go.

But I think Sony are trying to appeal to people who might not have a clue how to get their media out of the study and into the living room, and for that the PS3 (and 360) does a decent job (I'd imagine, I don't actually have one). Plus as kangarootoo says, the whole IPTV thing will be pushed pretty soon.

My PS3 now has a 160 GB HDD but it was a bitch taking the screws off the internal caddy as not only were the screws needlessly overtight but they're also cheaply made so it's all to easy to strip them as I found out...
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You could've used an external drive?. Why make things complicated for yourself.

i feel your pain darren. had the exact same problem - the fooking modders guides didn't mention the machine-tightened screws. had my 160gb wedged into the PS3 with a piece of card until i finally managed to prise all the screws outta the carriage thingy.

ps crouchy, you can't use external HDs. the usb ones aren't recognised, and even if they were it wouldn't be recognised as the main HD. you *can* mod the base unit, i believe, to allow an external HD to hang out of your system, but then we're getting back into "complicated" territory again.

Who gives a rats... PS3 at least takes normal HDD's. Just go buy one from your local (or online) retailer... for half the cost of the 360's 'official' one.

"The pc is the one and only media hub a person needs and consoles can complement that by streaming functions but there really is no need to replace the pc with a device that can do less."

That depends entirely on personal needs. Besides, with Linux, a PS3 can do almost anything a Windows PC can do.

@justsomeone - I'm glad I wasn't the only person with this issue then but when I rang Sony they more or less implied it was my fault as they said no-one has had complained about it (this was the day after the PS3 launched in Europe by the way; Saturday). Thus they wouldn't send me a replacement caddy and screws yet Sony US offer replacement screws incase you strip them and page 16 of the PS3 Support and Safety impy that you can contact Sony for replacements should you "lose" them! /rolls eyes

Anyway, I managed to remove the stripped screws using a pair of wire cutters by firmly gripping and biting slightly into the outside of the screw which then made it very easy to actually turn them with the minimum of effort. The new HDD is secured with higher-quality screws that don't strip when you use a screwdriver on them... you hear that, Sony!!!

Fortunately I was able to backup the contents of my old PS3 HDD onto an external USB Iomega HDD and then restore everything back to the new one.

P.S. An external drive is one solution but it's not very practical when it requires its own power supply and space so isn't as ideal as having the HDD completely internal. ; )

Searching on a whim, found this. Christ knows how much use it would be, but for those interested in swapping drives often (Linux hom devs perhaps) it might be handy.

http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthr...

Update, the link in the thread goes here.

http://www.mrmodchips.co.uk/catalog/inde...

Which is really where you want to be if you are interested in this.

Bluetooth in its current state sucks... I use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse with my Dell in my Living room, it suffers from significant lag and drops the connection far to often... Its on my "To Replace" list. I could see this causing some greif for PS3 owners...

Sony could sell anything in the UK.

"I use a Bluetooth Keyboard and mouse with my Dell in my Living room"

Might have something to do with your Dell. Bluetooth in my Dell laptop is terrible, has broken down two times already.