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No 120GB PS3 for UK, says Sony News

PlayStation 3 News by Ellie Gibson

29 January, 2008

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe has told our sister site GamesIndustry.biz there are no plans to introduce a 120GB PlayStation 3 round these parts.

Rumours such a model will appear in the US began circulating earlier in the week. According to Ars Technica, it'll come with a DualShock 3 controller and will retail for the same price as the 80GB Spider-Man 3 bundle.

SCEA has yet to comment on the rumours, but SCEE is less shy. "We do not currently have any plans to release a 120GB PlayStation 3 in the UK," a spokesperson said.

Sony has hinted in the past it could release PS3 units with bigger hard drives if there is enough demand.

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miiiguel
29/01/08 @ 11:25
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oh look another sku!
none for Europe, because Sony will send US left overs to us... we buy any shit whit their logo (and we willpay for Americans goodies!) yay!
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MrChigurh
29/01/08 @ 11:28
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Unless you download massive amounts of porn I see no reason to own a 120gb hard drive, and that's on PC...on a console?, not needed at all, unless you can download porn on it one day. Maybe Nintendo's next console will allow you to download stuff like whore of the rings onto a 300gb hard drive. That would be cool.
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Bloodkult
29/01/08 @ 11:28
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SCEE say 'no plans...

Expect a march release then \o/
Goodfella
29/01/08 @ 11:29
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Oh look, another troll!

Who cares, the HDD is easily upgradeable.
Squire
29/01/08 @ 11:30
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Meaningless.

They always say they have no plans until the day they announce it. Pretty sure the exact same thing has happened with the PS3 before.
SeesThroughAll
29/01/08 @ 11:30
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I don't give a flying fuck about how big the included HDD is. When you bring BC back however, then I'm interested!
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myiagros
29/01/08 @ 11:35
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I actually have arround 60gb of game data on my hard drive in just over a year, so am glad i upgraded my HDD to 250gb early on.

I can't see how the current 40gb drive is practicle, as most games save some amount of data to the HDD (whether optional or required). The average for each game seems to be about 2gb, so unless sony want people to go round deleting their install data every few months a much larger disk should be installed as standard.

Also if people are downloading demo's and use the Play TV peripgheral, that current 40gb disk will be full within a matter of days of owning the machine.
toythatkills
29/01/08 @ 11:37
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No BC=No sale.
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 11:37
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BC won't be coming back, you can put that idea to bed... Should really have picked the original when you had the chance, rather than bitching and moaning about the price.
Razz
29/01/08 @ 11:38
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Unless you download massive amounts of porn I see no reason to own a 120gb hard drive, and that's on PC...on a console?, not needed at all, unless you can download porn on it one day. Maybe Nintendo's next console will allow you to download stuff like whore of the rings onto a 300gb hard drive. That would be cool.

Bollox. I've got a 120Gb Hard drive in my Elite and i've only got about 20-30Gb left. There's plenty to download.
Razz
29/01/08 @ 11:39
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BC won't be coming back, you can put that idea to bed... Should really have picked the original when you had the chance, rather than bitching and moaning about the price.

Twisted fanboy logic!
JHuxley
29/01/08 @ 11:39
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A bigger HDD would be nice for Play TV. Wouldn't be surprised to see a new model with Play TV intergrated and a larger HDD, though.

That said, the PS3 HDD is easily (and relatively cheaply) upgradeable since Sony used standard PC parts. Shame Microsoft didn't do the same :(
SeesThroughAll
29/01/08 @ 11:40
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BC won't be coming back, you can put that idea to bed... Should really have picked the original when you had the chance, rather than bitching and moaning about the price.

I did buy the 60GB right after launch. My concern is that some friends of mine wanted it both with BC and cheaper. I also was planning on offering one to a family member, but to whom BC matters.
Rodney
29/01/08 @ 11:41
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Rash'

dropping backwards compatability is about increasing software attachment rates not reducing manufactoring costs.

miiiguel
29/01/08 @ 11:42
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That said, the PS3 HDD is easily (and relatively cheaply) upgradeable since Sony used standard PC parts. Shame Microsoft didn't do the same "
An honest question: does such 'upgrades' void the warranty ?
xAx
29/01/08 @ 11:42
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@MrChigurh

depends on how you use your pc, if like you you just use it for eurogamer and porn sure thats fine. But I've got 1.2tb thats nearly full. Photochopping and 3D takes up alot more space.
ccfb
29/01/08 @ 11:43
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Something that characterises this generation for me is that most if not all rumours you hear end up being true.
PLANT
JHuxley
29/01/08 @ 11:48
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"An honest question: does such 'upgrades' void the warranty ?"

No.
bad09
29/01/08 @ 11:48
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120gb for a console? Seems a bit pointless to me, that's why I haven't bothered upgrading my 360 one. I'm sure they will integrate the Dualshock into the package at some point, they would be stupid not to!

Doesn't matter either way for me. Until it has some good games, and like SeesThroughAll says, has B/C again I'm not buying.
Peew971
29/01/08 @ 11:49
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What's the point of all these skus when anyone can upgrade their HDD at will? It would have made (some) sense coming from Microsoft but from Sony, this is just ridiculous.
QPRHOOPS81
29/01/08 @ 11:50
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good good this is what im waiting for. The proper game pad, decent games and decent hard drive. Wont have the money till about april/may (hopefully it will be out by then) as just upgraded my PC. Had thought about getting a 360 but as most the good games are out for PC anyway ill get the PS3 for the living room.

It is annoying about B/C but guess i have my PS2 anyway and have to admit that after getting a ps2 i never bothered playing PS1 games again.
Bloodkult
29/01/08 @ 11:52
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120gb for a console? Seems a bit pointless to me, that's why I haven't bothered upgrading my 360 one.

You have to remember, one big difference is that most PS3 games and even demos have to install to the HDD.
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 11:52
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Well think reasonably then. how can you expect BC when it was costing Sony reportedly $800 to make the originals, which as everybody knows, were being sold at a loss? it's only after the cuts that they're able to break even and offer the system at a more competitive price. the loss of BC is disappointing i agree but seems understandable given the info available. an opinion other than that is imo unreasonable.
bad09
29/01/08 @ 11:53
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@ QPRHOOPS81

You should play PS1 there are some real gems! They may look a bit ropey by todays standards but it's all about gameplay! At the moment I'm playing G-Police again, Great game!!!

Check out Ebay you can pick them up for really cheap!


@ Blookult
Of course, I forgot BR laser reads slower than DVD! So EVERY game installs to HDD? Doesn't that eat into HDD space, how much space do the normally take?
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QPRHOOPS81
29/01/08 @ 11:54
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"What's the point of all these skus when anyone can upgrade their HDD at will? It would have made (some) sense coming from Microsoft but from Sony, this is just ridiculous. "

Thing is though, as time moves on the bigger hard drives are getting allot cheaper and due to supply sometimes cheaper than smaller ones. Makes sence to put in a bigger drive as it becomes more cost effective. Also gives another plus to the product your trying to sell.

Its not really a different SKU
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 11:54
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rodney, that's an interesting conspiracy theory... :)
Schiraman
29/01/08 @ 11:56
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Don't care about hard drive size since it's upgradable anyway, but a PS3 with BC that comes bundled with a DualShock 3 might finally tempt me to buy one.
xAx
29/01/08 @ 11:56
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@Rash'

Source? I was under the impression that the cell and blu ray laser were the most expensive parts. And i doubt dropping emulated BC really saves them that much money.
Bloodkult
29/01/08 @ 11:59
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rodney, that's an interesting conspiracy theory... :)

What 'theory' is this. Sony have already stated it as fact.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163...
http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6181373.html
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 12:01
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one more time: BC IS GONE!!! if didn't like paying the original price then market pressures (i.e. consumer reluctance to invest coupled with competition) has deprived you.
bad09
29/01/08 @ 12:05
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@ Rash'

One more time BC IS GONE ONE LESS REASON TO BUY PS3!!!.........
oreillymj
29/01/08 @ 12:07
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That said, the PS3 HDD is easily (and relatively cheaply) upgradeable since Sony used standard PC parts. Shame Microsoft didn't do the same :(


@JHuxley

MS did do the same. They just take those standard HDD's, put them in a fancy plastic box and charge you €100 more for them.
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penhalion
29/01/08 @ 12:08
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Another SKU! This is getting stupid. Each previous buyer of the PS3 is starting to feel short changed. It's like Sony are saying

"Buy the 40s we need to clear shelf for the 120s"

What next?

"Buy the 120s we need to clear house for the uber 250s"

Just pick a fraking SKU and stick with it. If the hard drive is so easy to upgrade then what the frak is the larger drive for? Why not just add in a dual shock 3 and leave well enough alone. Do they not realise that part of the reason they can't shift the machine is because no-one knows what the frak they are buying! Worse yet is the fear that if they buy today, it'll change tomorrow.
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 12:12
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bloodkult, wasn't aware of this thanks. still don't think it's as black and white as rodney suggested. your links still concede savings were made with the removal.
Kirly_Wombat
29/01/08 @ 12:13
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Sony hates Europe. Ive yet to see them do one thing that challenges this statement.
skillian
29/01/08 @ 12:15
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If Sony can make a PS3 with a bigger hard drive for the same price or cheaper than the previous one, why wouldn't anyone want them to do it?

Some people will find reasons to complain about anything.
Bloodkult
29/01/08 @ 12:15
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"conceded that removing that capability, along with a few other features, isn't dramatically reducing Sony's cost of manufacturing the console but will instead encourage buyers of the entry-level PlayStation 3 to purchase more games designed specifically for the new system."


Sounds pretty clear cut to me.
/Shrugs
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 12:18
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xAx, well the laser hasn't been changed and the cell was only recently reduced so that alone couldn't constitute the $400 savings they're making in production cost.
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 12:20
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"isn't drastically" doesn't mean it isn't, does it...
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oreillymj
29/01/08 @ 12:20
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I went looking for 60Gb PS3 after xmas, but couldn't find one.
I was told by 3 different sales assistants (1 Dixons, 1 Currys & 1 Xtravision) that a 120Gb machine would be coming in March.

Now I normally wouldn't believe anything anyone in Dixons or Curry's told me as they're pretty clueless, but 3 people telling me the same thing makes me think that a new box is on the way.
Bloodkult
29/01/08 @ 12:23
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If Sony can make a PS3 with a bigger hard drive for the same price or cheaper than the previous one, why wouldn't anyone want them to do it?

Anything that adds value is a good thing.
If anything it might be the existing 40gig owners that might feel they've been slightly ripped off if this SKU does come out here.
skillian
29/01/08 @ 12:24
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The price between a 40gb and 120gb drive is so small it would seem to make sense to use the bigger one - in fact, 40gb drives are so infrequently used now the 120GBs might even be cheaper.

edit: A Bloodkult - yes you are right, although I've never really understood that way of thinking. I guess as a PC gamer and a bit of a gadget fan, I've always understood that things gett better and cheaper as time goes on - that's just the way it goes.
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zuljin
29/01/08 @ 12:25
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@MrChigurh
"Unless you download massive amounts of porn I see no reason to own a 120gb hard drive, and that's on PC...on a console?, not needed at all, unless you can download porn on it one day. Maybe Nintendo's next console will allow you to download stuff like whore of the rings onto a 300gb hard drive. That would be cool."

Ditto to what Razz said. Not to mention that when PlayTV kicks off, I'll be looking to upgrade my HD to the largest possible.
bad09
29/01/08 @ 12:26
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@ Rash'

The BR drive in the 40Gb HAS been replaced with a cheaper one.
Bloodkult
29/01/08 @ 12:27
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"isn't dramatically reducing Sony's cost of manufacturing the console but will instead encourage buyers"

I think it's pretty clear what he means, but whatever makes you happy...
Diomedes117
29/01/08 @ 12:30
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IF I bought (I'm not gonna...) a PS3, I would want it backward compatible with PS2 and PS1 games. The size of the drive dosen't matter to my mind, since you can swap it with pc drives.
xAx
29/01/08 @ 12:31
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So how much does a PS3 cost to build now then?
skillian
29/01/08 @ 12:32
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While dropping back cat probably doesn't save much in hardware costs, it probably saves Sony a decent amount of time and money in QAing and editing PS2 games to work with the emulator. I can certainly understand why they'd want to draw a line under it and get on with working on the new console.
seamonsterneil
29/01/08 @ 12:33
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who the fuck needs 120gb!? its not like theres anything to download or play/install anyways
Rash'
29/01/08 @ 12:43
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xAx, Last saw was $400.

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