Nintendo: you've seen all our 2008 games News

"Animal Crossing, Wii Music, Wario Land: Shake It, Super Mario Sluggers... games for the core audience"

Wow.

/blames Sony

Stupid massively successful PS2.

Bullshit Nintendo, bullshit!

Quite looking forward to Animal Crossing, but I wonder wether Europe will see it released this year or not.

Sorry but it looks like I won't be buying any games for my Wii for the remainder of the year then because none of those 'core' games interest me. Ah well... at least I have a 360 and PS3 as well so it doesn't matterthat much... I'll just have to remember to keep blowing the dust off my Wii! LOL

i dont know how they can be proud of wiimusic. it looks appauling.

yet more reasons why I haven't and won't buy a Wii.

Sad it is the only consiole in thirty years of gaming I haven't bought.

Start reeling in. START REELING IN!

The Wario Land game should be alright, I guess...

@gamefan

you have a Gizmodo? WOW!

There's only one reason for me to buy a Wii and that's to play Okami with the remote.
*Awaits the soon-to-come boom of cheap second hand Wiis up for sale*

What's the problem here? The Wii has tons of 3/10 games so their core audience is obviously covered.

You won't win. Who's going to argue with them whilst they're sitting on top of their huge pile of cash?

Pathetic, Nintendo, really pathetic. Shame people will still buy into your system just because they think a 'cool' controller will turn them into gamers overnight.

gamefan: Your quite stupid then. The Wii is dirt cheap and there is agood few exclusive games worth picking up.
Instead of bitching about "core"-games, buy the good ones and play them. Then leave the Wii collecting dust until the next one.
You say youve bought every console in 30 years. Shoud be rich enough to buy a Wii aswell, right?

Animal Crossing, Wii Music, Wario Land...

I'm game :)

To be honest i'd much rather look at her than any of the games that Ninty have announced for this year. :)
No Wii for me then unless I really feel the need to play Okami or Zak and Wiki which are pretty much the only games on the Wii i have much interest in so far.

/ drinks kool-ade
Not that i feel forsaken by Nintendo at all.

I'll give them CoD. Although I've never really bought into this stupid casual/core divide, just good games/awful games. But if they want to look like they're appealing to "hardcore" gamers, give as 2D Metroid. In fact, just make a 2D Metroid anyway. NOT A MINI-GAME COLLECTION :/

stop your moaning and let's look at how fantastic the 3rd party is doing...

@gamefan: How can you call yourself gamefan without a Wii???

It printsssssssssssssssssssssssssssss moneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

If a nintendo mouthpiece has stopped using 'core' gamer, can EG please?

It makes my arse clench.

Might be time to sell it on I think. Thats a terrible line up.

I really doubt Animal Crossing will reach Europe this year, I wonder how many of those games will make it at all.

They should really have divided regions on the basis of language for this generation, then at least English speakers such as those living in the UK, Australia and New zealand wouldn't have to wait so long. It's not like we even get the localisation we wait and pay for anyway, the games are always in American English.

So outside of Nintendo's woeful line up for the rest of the year, what can we expect from the third parties? There's PES I suppose, that's been confirmed. That Castlevania beat 'em up doesn't look too bad.

Anything else of merit?

Well Nintendo has burned through most of its franchises already, now we wait for wave 2. It is a bit disappointing but then, Nintendo relies on the shelf life of its games.

see, heres my major problem with the wii

take away the wiimote, and you have an underpowered system with a woeful catalogue of games

now, what does Nintendo do, if MS and Sony release their own version of the wii mote? What does nintendo have then to distinguish itself from the pack

and what of the next generation, are Nintendo REALLY capable of catching lightening twice, or was this one last shake of the dice that actually proved incredibly lucky?

See, my view is that Nintendo's DON'T have the gamers market, that everyone that bought the wii that wasnt a gamer, that bought it as a fad, aren't going to buy the wii 2 just because its more powerful

Thats the opposite of the vast majority of xbox and ps3 owners, who will, in all likelihood, buy the next version of those machines.

I think Nintendo is fucked in the next generation

hopefully fatal frame 4 makes it out here this year, not convinced it will however.

"a woeful catalogue of games"

that is just utter rubbish, there are plenty of great games on the system, you can choose to overlook them if you want but it doesn't mean they don't exist.

Double post bah

There's a tales of symphonia sequel that's a wii exclusive, I'm waiting for that to get an EU release.

Ah good luck to 'em. They're making money so let 'em do it.

My main concern is MS are now following those casual wallets not just in games (buy what you want people I don't care) but right from the very dashboard I use, did I buy 360 for corporate quiz shows and Avatars? Spin it how you like it's not optional as far as I can see it's on YOUR dashboard and just incorporates themes and pics into it. (I do hope to be proven 100% wrong when it arrives BTW).

Is it possible that PS3 will go from joke to my savior this gen? Sure it'll have a lot of the same crap but it's optional......

So outside of Nintendo's woeful line up for the rest of the year, what can we expect from the third parties?

This is exactly what I was thinking. Sam & Max and Fatal Frame are the only forthcoming games I can see myself interested in and I can't find a release date for them anywhere.

Luckily I've got a few games like Okami and Paper Mario still to get, and the line up for the 360 this Autumn is incredible so at least I won't be short of stuff to play.

Got to agree with some comments here: I've had a Wii since launch and I've still only bought 4 games for it. Thats a pitiful ratio compared to the amount of 360 games I've got. And there is nothing at all in Nintendo's line-up I'm excited about.
Sad really.

I just bought a Wii, because it has enough quality games to entertain me for a month or two. But in all reality, no gamer could ever possibly own a Wii alone. It's the worst console out of the three by a country mile. Sure, it's a nice adjunct to a PS3 or 360 but were you to only own one console how could anyone pick the Wii?

Successful product =/= good product

Just imagine if MS or Sony had such a pathetic catalogue of games for 6 months, there would be a blood-bath! But I guess Nintendo don't really care, the thing prints money and they don't even have to make good games for it. The poster who was asking about Wii 2, and if Nintendo can "catch lightning twice" - very astute.

"I think Nintendo is fucked in the next generation "

Yeah people have been saying that since Sega dropped out of the hardware market.

Don't get me wrong I think you've got a point about what they'll do next generation but to write them off after they survived two, rather distant, last place finishes to become market leader seems a bit short-sighted.

"Don't get me wrong I think you've got a point about what they'll do next generation but to write them off after they survived two, rather distant, last place finishes to become market leader seems a bit short-sighted."

Exactly, the Wii is a fluke. They managed to think outside the box and tap into a market that nobody else thought of. Problem is, you can only do that once and now both Sony and MS are looking at that market.

The only reason the Wii even exists is because Ninty were f*cked if they went toe-to-toe with MS and Sony, no matter how many times they tell you rubbish like "gaming needed to change etc", the sole reason was that they couldn't compete.

i wonder how much dust my wii can have on it before it makes the machine collapse onto itself?

guess i'll find out at the end of this year!! :D

Hmm..surely saying "you have seen the extent of our holiday line-up" is very different to saying "you've seen all our 2008 games".

The fact that Nintendo abandoned it's fans for a more casual audience is fine, the fact that they keep pretending they still care about the hardcore on the other hand is really annoying.

Disappointing, certainly. Wario Land: Shake It is a maybe, but only a maybe at best. It's definitely time I bought another console.

But... I certainly don't regret buying my Wii. I've got a great range of games for it, many of which I'm sure I'll carry on playing through the quiet months. I never expected a new Mario or Zelda game, but I did expect something like F-Zero or Starfox in time for this Christmas.

Actually, the machine that looks like having the best lineup over the next 6 months is the PC.

see, heres my major problem with the wii

take away the wiimote, and you have an underpowered system with a woeful catalogue of games

now, what does Nintendo do, if MS and Sony release their own version of the wii mote? What does nintendo have then to distinguish itself from the pack

and what of the next generation, are Nintendo REALLY capable of catching lightening twice, or was this one last shake of the dice that actually proved incredibly lucky?

See, my view is that Nintendo's DON'T have the gamers market, that everyone that bought the wii that wasnt a gamer, that bought it as a fad, aren't going to buy the wii 2 just because its more powerful

Thats the opposite of the vast majority of xbox and ps3 owners, who will, in all likelihood, buy the next version of those machines.

I think Nintendo is fucked in the next generation

If you're defining nintendos prospects / success by your own personal preferences, then you're already wrong. It's been obvious from day one that Nintendo are not competing for the people who ' buy the next version of those machines' for the Xbox/Ps, because that's exactly how they got burnt in the last generation.

Both Sony and MS make the consoles they do because they can afford to absorb the huge losses with revenue from other areas whilst they fight it out. Nintendo can't afford to do that after the GC (yes, it made a profit, but the company wouldn't grow in share), so they're targeting people who don't buy consoles (the 'casuals' vastly outnumber the so-called 'hardcore'), and who will probably never ever care about whether Halo 5 or MGS6 is better.

Sure, Sony and MS can come up with Wiimote rip-offs. But it's never going to be any more than a sideline for them so long as they're focused on making the type of consoles (and games) they make - most of the people people who buy (or whom they want to buy) a Wii for the Wiimote don't give a shit about 1080p and 60fps.

Sure, it's a nice adjunct to a PS3 or 360 but were you to only own one console how could anyone pick the Wii?

It's cheaper, I can get better FPS on a PC (which I need for work anyways), it has novelty value (is fun, and that still counts), and my wife will play it with me.

funnily enough, my older, ostensibly shiny-thing liking (big TV, fancy stereo, sports car) brother only has a Wii.

>Bullshit Nintendo, bullshit!

REMEMBER: Those are just first party games.

How many 1st party games are microsoft releasing this year.. eh?

that is a pretty damn poor first party lineup. can't see anything there that i'd buy. here's hoping for some actual good 3rd party action...

So we'll have to wait until 2009 for the really NEW stuff like the new Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Pikmin, Metroid ...

/sarcasm

@yet more reasons why I haven't and won't buy a Wii.

Sad it is the only consiole in thirty years of gaming I haven't bought.

So you bought the shitty amstrad consoles, the CD32 and even the Jaguar - but you turn your nose up at the wii ? That's a bit strange. There is certainly enough available for the wii to make it worth a purchase for curiosity alone.

(excuse my poor attempt at stirring up more console fights)

@manicmouse - I agree. the problem Sony and MS have (note the spelling children) is that Nintendo and Wii are synonymous with casual friendly fun. As the Nes and Playstation were. It takes time to shift this from the mass market mindset. It's nintendo's to lose now.

Nintendo have finally cracked the number one rule of business.

"No one ever went broke appealing to the Lowest Common Denominator"

I'm not sure how people can say they're glad they havn't got a wii based on what's coming up...

Sure if you've had one from day 1, not having anything hardcore coming up in the next 5 months is a bit of a shame, but anyone who would buy one now has a brilliant backlog to go through from only 2 years. I've had one since day one and I still need to get Okami and finish Metroid 3. I need to end my rental spree at the end of this month so I have to try and finish Zack and Wiki quickly too (it surprised me, this game is ACE)

Seriously, the only game on ANYTHING I'm looking forward too at the moment is Banjo Kazooie. I prefer to have fun when I'm playing games, not cower behind walls...

I've never seen so many armchair business analysts in one thread, quite hilarious.

Nothing decent is coming out for the Wii this Christmas from Nintendo. Oh well. Nothing particularly fantastic (in my eyes) is coming out for my 360 eitherthis Christmas. Looks like I'm getting a better telly then?

I know F-Zero and Starfox will happen on the Wii, and there's more than likely going to be a new Mario and Zelda before this gen finishes too. I don't know why people are getting so wound up over a lack of announcements that everyone knows will come eventually.

I still haven't finished Galaxy, I'm still obsessed with Brawl and am just happy to have that, then Mario Kart is still serving my house well. And that's just the Nintendo stuff. I've got Okami to get yet, that Snowboarding game looks ace, I've still got GTA4 on the 360 to go through...

So lets look at the more notable lineup of 3rd party Wii games for the rest of this year:

-Sam and Max Season 1
-Harvest Moon
-Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
-De Blob
-Deadly Creatures
-GH: World Tour
-COD4
-Monster Labs
-Mushroom Men: Spore Wars
-Star Wars: Lightsaber Duels
-Tales of Symphonia
-Fatal Frame
-Little King Story (Pikmin with people)
-World of Goo
-Sonic Unleashed
-Megaman 9
-Gradius Rebirth
-Space Invaders RTS

...And that's all just 2008.

Yeah Wii's totally dead, nothing's coming out this year because Nintendo haven't announced any first party titles other than Animal Crossing, Wii Music and Wii Sports Resort. You lot are tools.

I thought it would different with the Wii... Less kiddy games and stronger 3rd party support. It's been a few years and it's still like this.

>that is a pretty damn poor first party lineup

show me microsofts first party line up...