Nintendo games dominating in 2009

By Games Industry.biz Published 6 July, 2009

Update: ELSPA amends misleading chart.

Wii Fit, Wii Play and Mario Kart Wii are the UK's best selling games of 2009 so far, according to GfK Chart-Track figures distributed by ELSPA.

With combined sales of 1.65 million units, the three titles make up 72 per cent of the sales volume of the top five best sellers. They're followed by Professor Layton and the Curious Village at number four, and the Sony first party title Killzone 2 at number five.

The Xbox 360 versions of Resident Evil 5 and Call of Duty: World At War take the number six and number nine places respectively, while EA gets one PC-exclusive title - The Sims 3, which was only released one month ago - into the number eight position.

ELSPA uses the latest data as evidence family-orientated and educational games have become the most popular genres with UK consumers, pointing to the sales figures for Wii Fit and Wii Play, as well as the continued success of Dr Kawashima's Brain Training, to illustrate its point.

Dr Kawashima sits at number seven in the chart and this year's sales now make it the most popular game in the UK ever, having sold over three million units.

"These figures are clear evidence that gaming is now mainstream in the UK," said Michael Rawlinson, director general of ELSPA. "The demographic has changed, so it’s time we did away with the misperception that videogames are merely the preserve of teenage boys shooting zombies. Innovation in the industry means the social and educational benefits of gaming are now enjoyed by players of both sexes and of all ages."

Overall, the performance figures for 2009 so far are the second best the UK has seen to date. Year-on-year sales are down 5.7 per cent however, with 29.7 million units sold compared to 31.5 million units for the same period in 2008. The results should still encourage the UK games industry though, according to Dorian Bloch, business group director of GfK Chart-Track, who commented:

"The videogame entertainment markets show that across software, hardware and accessories, the first half of 2009 is a solid platform for retailers, manufacturers and publishers to build momentum into the last quarter of 2009. The widening demographic and the growing trend in physical-motion gaming, means the industry is well positioned to see further growth."

The overall UK console installed base now stands at 24.2 million units - which is around the same number as there are UK households. The full install figures for each console as of June 27, 2009 can be found here.

This growth in popularity for gaming is further underlined in a report by the Neilsen Research for the Interactive Software Federation of Europe which shows that 33 per cent of the UK population between the ages of 30 and 49 describe themselves as 'active gamers' and 82 per cent say they play videogames with their children.

Update: ELSPA has contacted GamesIndustry.biz after releasing confused information in its original press release. The data first supplied refers to sales of individual format games, showing that the Xbox 360 SKUs of Call of Duty: World at War and Resident Evil 5 are more popular than the PlayStation 3 versions.

To help clarify data, it has also released a list of the top ten games in the UK for all formats. "Please accept ELSPA’s apologies for any misunderstanding or inconvenience caused," said the organisation.

The top ten best-selling games by individual formats for the first half of 2009 follows (revised):

  • 01 Wii Fit (Wii)
  • 02 Wii Play(Wii)
  • 03 Mario Kart Wii (Wii)
  • 04 Professor Layton and the Curious Village (DS)
  • 05 Killzone 2 (PS3)
  • 06 Resident Evil 5 (Xbox 360)
  • 07 Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (DS)
  • 08 The Sims 3 (PC)
  • 09 Call of Duty: World At War (Xbox 360)
  • 10 Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii)

The top ten best-selling games by all formats follows:

  • 01 Wii Fit (Wii)
  • 02 FIFA 09 (Xbox 360/PS3/PSP/Wii/PS2/DS/PC)
  • 03 Call Of Duty: World At War (Xbox 360/PS3/WII/PS2/PC/DS)
  • 04 Resident Evil 5 (Xbox360/PS3)
  • 05 Wii Play (Wii)
  • 06 Mario Kart Wii (Wii)
  • 07 Professor Layton And The Curious Village (DS)
  • 08 Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Wii/DS)
  • 09 Street Fighter IV (PS3/Xbox 360)
  • 10 Guitar Hero: World Tour (Wii/Xbox 360/PS3/PS2)
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  • alimokrane #1 3 years ago

    360 exclusives not doing so well ? How many were released in the past 6 months anyway ? 2/3 which include Star Ocean and Tales of Vesperia which are JPRGs and which NEVER sell well on any console.

  • Triggerhappytel #2 3 years ago

    So Killzone 2 sold more copies than both versions of Resi 5 combined?! Very impressive, given the lack of KZ2 marketing and the glut of Resi 5 advertising a few months back.

    I do agree though that the tagline is a little misleading, since there have been very few impressive 360 exclusives this year. Certainly there have been no good first party ones, have there?

  • miiiguel #3 3 years ago

    @ Trigger: Good? What good has to do with it? Are you saying Sonic at the Olympic Games is particulary good?

  • Triggerhappytel #4 3 years ago

    Alright then; has there been any retail release first party Microsoft stuff this year? I don't think there has been, at least nothing big that you would expect to trouble the charts.

    :p

  • Darren #5 3 years ago

    The only Xbox 360 exclusive I've bought this year has been Halo Wars. I've bought more exclusives for the PS3 (Killzone 2, inFamous, MLB 09: The Show) and PC (Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War 2, The Sims 3, ArmA II) I think.

    To be honest, the Xbox 360 has had a very poor year so far for exclusives.

  • Monkey_Puncher #6 3 years ago

    Other than Halo Wars there's not really been anything of any worth exclusive wise on the 360. Looks like Killzone 2 might even have sold better here than it did in the states, though I could be wrong. I think it's only sold about 700,000 over there.

  • patch #7 3 years ago

    There's only Halo Wars I can think of as a 360 exclusive. It's a good sign that games are still selling well, not as recession proof as was thought, but a good showing none the less.

  • Dizzy #8 3 years ago

    These numbers seem to indicate that the 360 has massively outsold the Wii *this* year. Not so good for Nintendo after all? Worldwide slowdown for Wii?

  • Xerx3s #9 3 years ago

    "Very impressive, given the lack of KZ2 marketing and the glut of Resi 5 advertising a few months back. "

    Eh? KZ2 had a megaton of advertisement. :/

    "I do agree though that the tagline is a little misleading, since there have been very few impressive 360 exclusives this year. Certainly there have been no good first party ones, have there?"

    Just one or two but they where barely marketed.

  • Vordred #10 3 years ago

    yeah to say the 360 exclusives are not doing well is kind of a pointless, since really there haven't been any yet, they are all due in the second half of the year.

    as Alimokrane said just a few jrpg's which dont sell that well anyway.

  • El-Dev #11 3 years ago

    @Darren, where did you get MLB09 from? Import on the web?


    To be fair there has been very little in terms of 360 exclusives this year bar a couple of JRPG and Halo Wars, which mightn't be to everybodys taste and have the same mass appeal as Halo or GoW. I still expect Halo ODST to be the biggest selling game of this year.

  • Shinji #12 3 years ago

    Dizzy - I'm not sure how you're getting that out of the figures. In the past 12 months, the Wii has sold 2.3m units, the 360 has sold 1.7m. It's not as big a margin as it has been at other times, but Wii is still out in front.

  • KrissAkabusi #13 3 years ago

    Wow, funny to see all the Xbitches get all defensive that there hasn't been any Xbox exclusives so far this year.

    Check the top five, when did those Wii titles come out now.......

  • HiredMan #14 3 years ago

    @Shinji

    The figures being thrown around on GAF at the moment are that in the first 6 months of '09 in the UK, the Wii has sold 500,000 units, the 360 has sold 700,000, I think.

  • lambtron #15 3 years ago

    Wii Play?

    Why God!

  • Yossarian #16 3 years ago

    Yeah, as HiredMan said, there's an ongoing thread about this on GAF. In February-June of 2009 the 360 has (reportedly) outsold the Wii 2:1 in the UK.
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 12:16

  • Shinji #17 3 years ago

    HiredMan - Ah, okay. I haven't seen hardware figures for the six months to June, only for the 12 months to June. It does seem plausible, given the 360 price cuts and the high installed base of the Wii - although if they are outselling on hardware, Microsoft must be pretty gutted that their software sales are so weak by comparison.

  • Dizzy #18 3 years ago

    *This* year not the last 12 months. The Wii sold a lot for XMas... but this year it seems the 360 has sold almost twice the amount of consoles as the Wii.

    "Microsoft must be pretty gutted that their software sales are so weak by comparison"

    Based on the charts 360 software has been doing really well. They are probably spread out over a lot more titles than the Wii though.
    Edited by 2 at 06/07/09 @ 12:21

  • Yossarian #19 3 years ago

    That is the UK only, however. I saw another thread about French sales and oh boy do they love their Nintendo over there.

  • HiredMan #20 3 years ago

    Yep, the 300k/600k figure for Wii/360 is being bandied around too, I couldnt remember which period it was for though :/
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 12:20

  • Kremlik Verified Co-Founder, Crash To Desktop #21 3 years ago

    well considering also nintendo tend to sell us 'tools' not games these days it's kinda misleading in the title also..

    But it rings true this and next year seem to have more exclusives comming out for Wii/PS3 then the 360 moreso if your not a Halo fan, I'm liking the XBLA lineup tho although like last year it seems the big hitters have been lumped in the summer lineup again, but then again I am mostly playing the XBLA games over disk right now

  • Yossarian #22 3 years ago

    Yep, the 300k/600k figure for Wii/360 is being bandied around too, I couldnt remember which period it was for though :/

    It's February-June. As you said, the ratio is only 1.4:1 or so when you include January, when the Wii outsold 360.

    Have there even been any 360 exclusives of real note in 2009? Like Darren, the only one I bought was Halo Wars. I think MS should be less "gutted" about sales of exclusives than the very lack of exclusives. Almost everything now is multiplatform, although they still seem to be enjoying superior multiplatform sales in most cases.

  • Eraysor #23 3 years ago

    The Sims 3 is pretty high up considering it's only been around for a month.

  • Darren #24 3 years ago

    @El-Dev - Yes, I imported MLB 09: The Show (and last year's game too) from VG+ in Canada. Cost me £35 from memory, including postage.

  • Dizzy #25 3 years ago

    "Almost everything now is multiplatform, although they still seem to be enjoying superior multiplatform sales in most cases. "

    Multiplatform sales dominance is easy money, so I guess they are not unhappy about that.

  • wittynic #26 3 years ago

    JRPG's can sell well, such as Dragon Quest: Curse of the King and any Final Fantasy game.

  • patchbox360 #27 3 years ago

    just got my ps3 with killzone 2 - the game is absolutely amazing

  • MeBrains #28 3 years ago

    360 exlcusives are not selling well. it's irrelevant that there were none released this year. Wii Fit, Play, Mario Kart, Brain Training surely weren't released this year either...

  • miiiguel #29 3 years ago

    "360 exlcusives are not selling well. it's irrelevant that there were none released this year. Wii Fit, Play, Mario Kart, Brain Training surely weren't released this year either... "

    Yes, everybody knows Halo 3 was a flop. And Gears. Rip 360. Oh, and GTA 4 too, since it's not on *the list*.
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 12:53

  • El-Dev #30 3 years ago

    Cheers Darren, been interested in that in a while but didn't know where to import it from as wasn't sure which web sites are trustworthy.

  • dirigiblebill #31 3 years ago

    A more accurate headline would be "Nintendo games dominating UK in 2009".

  • MeBrains #32 3 years ago

    i don't know where this "360 outsold Wii 1.4/1 (or 2/1)" comes from. I think it is utter bollocks.

    Look here: http://vg chartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wi... - "blue curve" has been continuously above "green curve" since june 2008...

    please correct me if I am wrong, including sources...

  • MeBrains #33 3 years ago

    miiiguel: I have re-read my post and I do not have the impression I said that Halo 3 and Gears and so on have been flops, or have I? I was just mentioning that the argument of "no exclusives this year" is not a valid one to explain the lack of 360 exclusives in that list, since the top 3 were not released this year either.

  • Monkey_Puncher #34 3 years ago

    I don't see how Microsoft can be disappointed about sales of games that haven't actually been released. It sounds like Halo Wars sold a good 1 mill around the world, which is pretty amazing sales for a console RTS. It's also been known for a long while that Nintendo have mastered the ability to create games that consistently sell and stay in the charts. Where as 360 exclusive and also PS3 sales do most their sales in the first months of release.

    I'm sure Microsoft won't be losing much sleep over the umpteen millions of copies Gears 2 and others sold last Christmas.

  • miiiguel #35 3 years ago

    @ MB: "360 exlcusives are not selling well. ", English is not my 1st language (nor 2nd) but that sentence is pretty easy, even for me. That, for me, means that "360 exclusives are not...err... selling well", which came to mind Halo and Gears, which I have this weird idea that they sold pretty well.

    disclaimer: Anyway, I've seen your posts in many 360 realted threads so I don't want to sound too hypocrite, I know the drill.
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 13:07

  • special_move #36 3 years ago

    WARNING: People are reading these figures WAY wrong.

    The original report from ChartTrack GFK is top 10 individual skus (ie. not combined sales for multi format titles). RE5 has outsold Killzone 2 by far all formats.

    can we get a correction in the article?

    UPDATE: MCV have pulled the chart pending a correction....
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 13:33

  • CallousB #37 3 years ago

    "Yep, the 300k/600k figure for Wii/360 is being bandied around too,"

    I still think that's wrong to be honest. The top 3 games (Wii Fit,Wii Play and Mario Kart) sold 1.65m combined...that being the case we've got to be looking at sales of 400k + for Wii Play. Wii Play sells to around 45% of wii owners....so if Wii Play sells 400k..you've got to be looking at Wii hardware sales of 800k+. Wii Play usually sells under half of what Wii hardware does every month.
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 13:28

  • Telepathic.Geometry #38 3 years ago

    I'm not sure it's fair to include Wii Play as a game as a lot of people only want the peripheral it comes with and have only a passing interest in the game itself, although it's reasonably entertaining for a bit. At least that's how it was for me. I doubt I'm alone on that.

  • gingerlink #39 3 years ago

    with continued success of Wii Play, you've got to think, the release of Wii Sports 2 is going to give MONUMENTAL sales...

  • Frumper #40 3 years ago

    I think you have to look at the breadth of the game library to put this chart into more context. I think you see Wii games up there as the attach rate is focused on a small amount of games: The casual gamer who picks up a Wii is picking it up for Wii Fit, Wii Play for the second controller and Mario Kart because it's a hand-in-hand game with any Nintendo console, Brain training is another Casual/family favourite.

    The 360 attachment must be spread over a larger amount of games, 7:1 if you believe their press so it will be harder for it's games to hit the top 10. If you expanded this from Top 10 to Top 40/50/100 I reckon you'd see more of the list filled with 360/Ps3.
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 14:02

  • Widge #41 3 years ago

    Wii Play is still selling regardless. You can’t disregard it because of what is bundled with it.

  • Telepathic.Geometry #42 3 years ago

    I'm not saying disregard it in fairness. But I just feel that, to at least some extent, it's like putting sales of 360 controllers in the games sales charts.

    (To expand on that a little more, if the peripheral were one that you could pretty much only use for that game light a SFIV controller or a light-gun thingy or something, it's fair game, as it's part of that game).

    To explain once AGAIN, how well would Wii Play fare if it were sold completely separately?
    Edited by 1 at 06/07/09 @ 14:10

  • Xerx3s #43 3 years ago

    "with continued success of Wii Play, you've got to think, the release of Wii Sports 2 is going to give MONUMENTAL sales... "

    I don't know. If they bundle it as they did with WS1 then it will sell a megaton no matter what. If they don't do a pack in but sell it separately, I reckon that we will see how well it actually sells.

  • Dave52 #44 3 years ago

    patchbox360: "just got my ps3 with killzone 2 - the game is absolutely amazing"

    Yes... yes it is. Pick up Infamous while you're at it. Awesome game.

  • Sunyavadin #45 3 years ago

    Given how long the Sims 3 has been out ocmpared to the others, I think we can safely say PC is dominating the chart.

  • ronuds #46 3 years ago

    "Look here: http://vg chartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=Wi... - "blue curve" has been continuously above "green curve" since june 2008...

    please correct me if I am wrong, including sources..."

    You are wrong for using vgchartz as "evidence". They publish estimates based on...well, I don't really know. Either way, vgchartz isn't a beacon of truth.

  • MeBrains #47 3 years ago

    @miiiguel: English is not my 1st language (nor 2nd) but that sentence is pretty easy, even for me. That, for me, means that "360 exclusives are not...err... selling well", which came to mind Halo and Gears, which I have this weird idea that they sold pretty well.

    if it is so easy to you, how come you seem to mix and match the tenses "are not selling" and "have sold"? Like I said in my 3rd post in this thread (n°34), I am not discussing the "have sold" - we both know they indeed have.

    I AM agreeing with the "are not selling" since, at this moment, they are not, according to the (original) article.

    ronuds: vgchartz is not too shabby. I also do not believe they are 100% correct. They don't even claim so. Yes, they use estimates, but they do correct based on official data (NPD, charttrack...). But... is there a better / more accurate source?

  • El-Dev #48 3 years ago

    "its the usa that really matters in the "console wars" and its 360 all the way but the uk is an important market now bigger than the much touted(by sony fanboys?) japanese market."

    Really?
    [link url=http://www.videogamer.com/news/360_extend s_lead_over_ps3_in_the_uk.html
    ]http://ww w.videogamer.com/news/360_exten...[/link]

    Uk market, current gen including DS has sold 24m to date,Wii+360+PS3=11.5m


    [link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/japan-char ts-xbox-360-catching-ps3
    ]http://ww w.eurogamer.net/articles/japan-...[/link]

    Japanese market, DS alone has sold 26m, wii+360+PS3=12.4m.

    Maybe you should check your market figures before you make broad sweeping statements, or you'll end up looking like a MS fanboy trying to trumpet their minor success.
    Edited by 2 at 06/07/09 @ 16:52

  • ronuds #49 3 years ago

    "vgchartz is not too shabby. I also do not believe they are 100% correct. They don't even claim so. Yes, they use estimates, but they do correct based on official data (NPD, charttrack...). But... is there a better / more accurate source?"

    vgchartz is hit and miss. Some months they make you think they know what they're doing and other months not so much. I don't know of any better sources, unfortunately.

  • MeBrains #50 3 years ago

    @ronuds: ok, so we both agree there is none better as far as we know. 2nd: I do believe you can trust VGcharts enough to deduct that Wii has sold considerably more, 360 is second and ps3 third. I believe you can use it to "see" that ps3 is not selling all that bad in comparison to 360 world wide. that the gap between the two is not that much in Europe - even though 360 has been on the market a year longer and so on.

    btw: i never ever look at their sw charts and only use general lines with their hw. For the latter, I do think you can trust vg enough to deduct all of the above and more, no?

  • Machiavellian #51 3 years ago

    @MeBrains
    Have you been paying attention to the thread. It's been reported that within the month between Feb to Jun that the 360 has outsold the Wii. Will this continue to happen, who's to say but using VgCharts as your source to disprove the information is not the best choice.

  • smelly #52 3 years ago

    *phew* Oh, that's alright then .. wii games are charting well... i was beginning to panic

    [sarcasm off]

  • El-Dev #53 3 years ago

    "AFXG only ambition is to show blind sony bots like yourself what great games and services they are missing."

    Oh Donnie, you really need to learn how to do simple research.

    So we shal only count the sections of gaming that prove what you want to say to be true, ok. I don't agree with it as the entire market should be looked at, but that's just me being a reasonable and logical thinker.

    The UK is only more important to you because the 360 is outselling the PS3 there, I understand that. Many people would argue that this is not the case, and like myself may use sales figures and logic instead of opinion.

    AFXG...if you make something that looks like a fork, has the same properties as a fork and does the same job as a fork but you call it a spoon, it's still a fork.

  • ronuds #54 3 years ago

    @ MeBrains

    Yes, I agree there is none better, but that doesn't mean I'd factor in their guesstimates when trying to prove a point. They really have no idea what's going on in Europe. My guess -- if what people are saying is true -- is that vgchartz is using their normal process of providing information, which is to give estimates based on "historical information" rather than hard numbers.

    So, I'd take whatever numbers you see there with a grain of salt. And maybe not even that much.

  • MeBrains #55 3 years ago

    @Machiavellian: have I paid attention to the thread? I suppose so.

    Here it is:
    1. post 9: Dizzy says, from these numbers it shows 360 has been outselling Wii. -> I do not have any clue at all how these numbers prove so.
    2. post 15: HiredMan says, figures on GAF show that Wii sold 500k this year. 360 sold 700k. -> GAF? What the hell is GAF. I don't know what it is, so I'd rather look to vgchartz.
    3. post 17: Yossarian mentions figures from "GAF" say 2:1 in favour of 360. -> same remark.

    ... then it brabbles on about these figures. I step in, I give my sources (vgchartz) and ask "to correct me if I am wrong, including sources that prove so". All I get is: you are wrong, without any back-up whatsoever.

    So again: DO correct me if I am wrong, but give some sources. As it stands, the most reliable source I personally know is vgchartz, knowing to take them with a grain of salt, but by lack of a better alternative, I rather trust these, than trust in "some posts on GAF says so". OK with you?

    Have you paid attention?

  • twh104 #56 3 years ago

    Why are people buying games released 3 years ago still in such great numbers?

  • Drakron #57 3 years ago

    Funny thing is about a year ago (May 08) Sony stated that the PS3 was outselling the Xbox 360 in Europe, a few months later we had Microsoft stating that the Xbox 360 was outselling the PS3.

    Sony never again stated that the PS3 was outselling the Xbox 360 or refuted Microsoft claim.

    So were does that leave us?

    If I use VGChartz I see the Xbox 360 outselling the PS3 in Europe on June 09, getting numbers in Europe is harder that in Japan or North America.

    So what is the truth then? I would find it unlikely that Sony would not once again announce they were outselling the XBox 360 if they were over several months in a row, they might be outselling it on a month or another but not over a longer period of time.

    Besides, I see the "Nintendo Wi"i on the left upper corner ... considering the long road Nintendo have traveled and the bias towards the PlayStation brand in Europe ... it shows something, it shows that Europe is many things but its not "Sonyland" and after all the crap Sony have given us (delayed release, BC removed from launch models, PSN being far inferior that the rest of the world) they certainly deserve to lie on the bed they made.

  • ronuds #58 3 years ago

    Those numbers seem to be directly from Chart-Trak, which is pretty much the UKs version of NPD. So, yeah, those are the right numbers.

    It shows the 360 outselling the PS3 by almost 2m in the UK now. 3.9 - 2.2, which is a pretty big increase from the last reported figures.

    @MeBrains - let the debate end. Numbers are from Chart-Trak, which are the most official numbers you can get. This should show you how much attention should be paid to vgchartz.

  • MeBrains #59 3 years ago

    @ronuds: chart track is a lot more trustworthy than vgc for the uk, the NPD is for the US and Mediabrains's (or what was it?) for Japan.

    There is ab-so-lu-te-ly no discussion there. Now, comparing chart track's to vg's. I see *largely* the same numbers for the UK. So I be friggen damned, but I still do not see any reason as to why I should NOT look at vg's in order to get the information I need - trends.

    Now, can somebody please back up the original claim of "360 is outselling Wii in the uk at least 1.4:1 for the last six months"?!?! -> that was the only question I had and it is STILL not answered / backed-up. VGCharts doesn't show that. NEITHER does charttrack! Where does that info come from?

  • ronuds #60 3 years ago

    @ MeBrains

    Here's a link to the figures. [link url=http://www.gamegroup.plc.uk/gg/media/releases/2009 /2009-07-02/
    ]http://ww w.gamegroup.plc.uk/gg/media/rel...[/link]

    Nobody's saying not to use vgchartz, though. I just wouldn't use their numbers as evidence for anything. It's nice for informational purposes, but not much else.

  • El-Dev #61 3 years ago

    I'm starting to think that the main purpose of gaming is being missed by some people...

  • MeBrains #62 3 years ago

    halelujah! thanks ronuds. these are interesting numbers and they do have chart track mentioned as their source.

    they do indeed show that Wii sold 300K between Jan and Jul, while 360 sold 600K. So, it does not appear to be "bollocks" like I said.

    Even more interesting is that DS only sold 100K in the same period. O_o

  • ronuds #63 3 years ago

    DSi was released, so that's why DS sales declined so much. Everyone seemed to pretty much ditch the DS once the DSi was released.

  • MeBrains #64 3 years ago

    uhm yes... never mind the obvious... :rolleyes: @ me...

  • Drakron #65 3 years ago

    Then I will remind you El-Dev why we have a console war.

    People buy a console to play games but consoles were and still are quite a investment, what happens when the console you brought "looses" the war?

    Most consoles are strict gaming devices, only a few had multimedia capabilities that can justify their cost at the time of their release.

    The issue is you can end up with a £200 paperweight, that is why many people "fight" the console war since there are historical reasons to do so, Sega is a reminder of what happens to the loosing side ... even Nintendo is with the N64 and GameCube.

    Yes ... its the games but are you going to buy a £299 console for a couple of games when you can buy a £199 console for 20 games?

    That is the reason why people argue, they picked a side and they fight for their side ... they want their console to win in order to play all the good games.

    That is the point for the player side.

  • Dizzy #66 3 years ago

    "they do indeed show that Wii sold 300K between Jan and Jul, while 360 sold 600K. So, it does not appear to be "bollocks" like I said. "

    You should stop f*cking whining and writing annoying "I don't believe it" posts and listen to some of the people on this site. You think we pull stuff out of our ass just to annoy you or what?
    Edited by 1 at 07/07/09 @ 07:32

  • MeBrains #67 3 years ago

    lol @ dizzy.

    you think I should rather blindly believe everything you guys pull out of your ass?

    if you reread my posts here, you'll notice that only one says "i don't believe it" - the rest is an argument about some site's trustworthyness, chapski.