Nintendo reducing Wii production?
Affected Japanese manufacturers say so.
Nintendo may be reducing the amount of Wii consoles made, as companies involved in the process report a "drop-off in orders from Nintendo to assemble game systems".
Nikkei unearthed the scoop (thanks VG247), claiming that manufacturers Mitsumi and Hosiden face a 50 per cent drop in income this financial year.
Nintendo UK told us this morning that "we are confident we will be able to satisfy demand for Wii in the UK this peak season".
Long-term, however, the ramifications are unclear.
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It was flying off the shelves at a crazy rate, it would never keep that up. And even with it slowing down it's still shifting more units than the PS3 and 360
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That's silly, it didn't even outsell the NES yet, let alone the PS2.
Wii games, and generally casual stuff is famous for LONGER momentum than usual, as people are not buying it ASAP, just whenever they feel like. Why would the console itself have an unusually short lifespan?
I would rather think it has something to do with the lack of new Wii Fit-level successes this year. 'Music and 'Resort were supposed to move that hardware but they didn't. NSMB Wii might be the one, but it's too late to show its hardware-moving effect in this year
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More likely manufacturing process have been streamlined to the extent production can be ramped up/down easily - who wants to be left holding stock in the current climate.
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NSMB isn't a system seller - it appeals to the same kind of person who loved Mario Galaxy, not mums and dads looking for something that they feel they'll be able to play with their kids.
Agreed, NSMB appeals to existing gamers - it's great, btw, a nostalgia overload and was fun to play with my evul niece and nephews (so young and already so vicious
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Also, don't forget that most of those core gamers who played SMB on the NES, were just kids with their very first console. It DID expand gaming to a greater audience, that Nintendo lost in the previous 2 gens, and now they might get them back.
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From what I`ve seen in the shops. I`d say thats wrong. Seen loads of kiddies asking mum if they could have NSMB down asda.
But do those kids already have a Wii?
The two aren't mutually exclusive, people wanting NSMB does not mean it's a system seller, the question is is it likely to attract "outsiders"?
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Hopefully the Game Cube... I mean Wii will die out quickly so that game developers can stop making 15 iterations of Mario every year and concentrate on making proper games... Wishful thinking?!?
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A lot of scaremongering and negative buzz around the Wii on the internet lately.
First EA claim that they cant compete with Nintendo's games. Now Nintendo doesnt produce enough games to sustain momentum for the EA games to hitchhike. Never do these 'games industry exec' types take the blame for their products shodiness and their lack of passion and understanding of what constitutes a solid Wii game.
Some other third party nobody claims he cant sell his shovelware jogging game blames the Wii demographics (was recently on gamesindustry.biz.)
Then NPD sales are reported with an emphasis on Wii not scaling its previous heights not that its still the console most in demand around most of the worlds economies.
It is fairly clear to me that because 'industry analysts' do not understand the Wii and did not factor audience expansion in their sales projections and because third parties were locked into investments and contracts with Sony and MS they all aim to wish the Wii away. Aint gonna happen
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@ Sneetch
That wasn`t the point I was answering.
Oh fair enough then. In that case as it's the kids asking for the game (not the mums and dads) and there's no way of knowing if those kids have Mario Galaxy or not, I'm not sure if your point really disproves Doctor_What's.
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(And as a side note: Horray for people not going 'U R wrong LOLZ' on the internet. It's nice to have a non-flamey debate about something relatively controversial such as the appeal of a console system.)
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"That's silly, it didn't even outsell the NES yet, let alone the PS2"
That has nothing to do with anything. Your assumption is that everyone who owned a NES wants a Wii. I suggest that assumption is unsafe to say the least.
And also, regardless of final sales figures, I would expect the sales rate of the Wii is far higher than the NES was over the same period. Nobody is saying Wii sales won't recover. What they are suggesting is, FOR NOW, everyone who wants a Wii has one. That is all.
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"I'm still thinking that NSMB is not a system seller in the way that Wii Fit or Wii Sports is"
I quite agree. A strong system seller is a game that appeals to the purchaser of the console itself. Wii Fit almost ALWAYS appeals to the purchaser of the console. NSMB will do in some cases, but not as many as a proportion.
And kids hassling their parents might seem like a compelling way to drive sales (and in comparison to nothing, it is), but nothing is as powerful as appealing directly to the holder of the purse strings.
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That's just it. They have recovered. The latest released weekly figures saw the Wii break the 700k barrier worldwide, with Sony and MS back at 350k and 250k respectively.
We could be looking at the Wii breaking the 1million barrier in the next weekly sales figures thanks to the Black Friday boost.
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/looks at his third 360 in disgust
You can't keep supplying when there is no demand.
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I suspect Nintendo think that even though they will sell lots, perhaps they had production at the same levels as last year, and at the moment are selling less, so decided to ramp down production... but lets be honest they are still selling bucket loads.. and i am sure they can easily ramp up production if needed.
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One of the more sensible suggestions made yet
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It is possible that this is what andijames meant, and in this form, it makes some sense, but I noticed that people who simply use this argument that "everyone has a Wii already", and its variations, they often have a very weak grasp on traditional sales patterns, and simply heard in the news that lots of Wiis were sold, so they just make a big assumption without knowing anything about reasonable selling potentials.
Also, I didn't try to suggest that it will sell to the same people as the NES, or the PS2, but that there is a potential market for much, much more than 50 million gamers, and until now the Wii showed to be the most mainstream console ever, so it is unreasonable t assume that it only has a potential audience as big as the SNES', but it sold to that 50 million audience a lot faster than any console ever before, for some obscure reason like "being a fad".
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I think we are in agreement. To state "everyone who wants one has one" without the caveat FOR NOW appearing somewhere in the mix is as unsafe as any blanket generalisation.
And I agree that longer term there are still plenty of Wii sales in the making. I just think that Nintendo's marketing was so good that a lot of the eventual sales were front loaded. I.e. a greater portion of the eventual total sales happened earlier than (probably anyone, including Ninty) expected.
However, the NES comparison (if taken too literally) also doesn't account for the range of games. The NES had plenty of games that appealed to more the hardcore end of the NES audience. Whereas nobody can really dispute that the Wii is thinner on hardcore games than its competitors. So whilst the family audience have lapped up the Wii, and shall continue to do so in smaller amounts in the future, will the hardcore audience then make up the rest of the proposed numbers? Or have some of them already bought 360s and PS3 instead?
I actually don't think the Wii is a fad any more than any other console. So long as Ninty keep making first party titles, the core Wii audience (who don't buy games as frequently as the hardcore, and so don't need the same volume of new titles) will keep buying them. "Fad" is often just a word the l33t hardcore use to abuse the Wii, just like other kiddy terms such as "proper gamer" and "sheeple".
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Ive always had all consoles in each generation and have always had that softspot (which I believe to be totally worthy) for Nintendos machines. One that is never quite there for the others. Yet I have to say that I would be very warey about investing next time. Having said that, I would definitely miss the Marios and the Zeldas et al. It would appear that we come to a point when I dont think that the golden era will ever be re-lived. Maybe all of us that remember Nintendo so fondly should leave it at that - Wonderfully fond memories! Perhaps Ive just become jaded - in which case I apologise.
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If they are selling consistently betwen 35 and 60% less even with price cuts and with all their arsenal out (WSR,Wii Fit Plus ,NSMBW and black Wii) its the more natural thing to do decrease the production..
By the way ,they dont say they have decreased the production a 50% ,only that those suppliers saw a 50% dwindle in their stocks.Its not the same thing.We only know Nintendo has reduced the orders to manufacturate Wiis(probably sensibly) ,we dont know the exact percentage ..
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And i will not be getting the Wii.
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Maybe in future you can still enjoy Nintendo systemsl, but you just won't be an early adopter. Waiting till the console price drops might take the edge off the more limited range of software?
Personally, I am looking seriously at maybe buying a Wii for the first time early next year. There are bundles about now that mean it could be worth my while, even though I know it will never be my primary games system.
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100 EUR and I will buy it.
I can wait.
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Are there really people older than twelve years old who play Wii?
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Are there really people older than twelve years old who play Wii?"
Of course there are. But if it makes you feel better about how well the Wii's done and your subsequent confusion, we can all pretend?
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I wonder if this is something to do it. There seem to be rumblings along them lines in the background. Either that or it's not much of a news story.
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"Nintendo is silent about Wii HD rumors"
"Nintendo denies Wii HD rumors"
"Nintendo claims next cosole will come later"
"Nintendo reacts on Wii upgrade rumor"
The journalists just need to make up these rumors, and keep asking the questions about them, and whatever Nintendo reacts, it makes a good news story, so we will soon get the idea that Nintendo just can't shut up about the next Wii.
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if nintendo uped production to meet demand and again and again as sales balance out wouldnt you then LOWER PRODUCTION
THIS IS NOT WII HD NEWS
THIS IS NOT NINTENDO IS ALWAYS DOOMED (U WISH) NEWS
its a natural lower production later in a products life = COMMONSENSE
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Which is just defeatism, really. EA could have if they had put the right people at the task, but MySims and Active just aren't as clever as the first-party offerings. The first company to bring a great new concept to market will get most of the buzz, like how Singstar will continue to outsell Lips and We Sing by a huge margin.
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Aaaa it burns you have burned me with common sense
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Singstar is also comprehensively better than the other 2. Knock-offs can do perfectly well, but shoddy knock-offs not so well.
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EDIT - I promise I will attempt to add some punctuation next time I add a comment.
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The first boom blox has sold a million.
Boy and his Blob is beyond niche.A 2D remake of a celrebral NES platformer with non-existent marketing and retail distribution. Have you tried finding this game in the high street?
Dead Space extraction belongs to an over-saturated genre on the platform and there was a general apathy towards it as most people, myself included, where hoping for a 3d action game from the series on the Wii
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Why on earth is the assumption here that this is some kind of strategy by Nintendo (to recreate a demand) or that it may have an impact on the availability of their console?
Why not consider the possibility of it as being a sign that the fad has worn off and this is the beginning of the decline for this crap console?
Over & Out.
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I'm almost sad that I have a PS3 and PSP (came after the Wii and DS...I could still see myself getting a Wii, as ours is a family system, stays in the living room at my parent's place). No, I'm not crazy - I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who can't live without their Xbox or PS3, myself included - I just don't have time to play all of the great titles that are out there. If I just had one system, I'd be playing games SOLELY because I enjoyed them, not to get them out of the way before the next big release. I've given up on playing all of the PS2's library of stellar games (haven't touched FFXll, any of the Ratchet and Clank's, Disgaea HoD, any of the GTA games, the 2nd and 3rd Sly...haven't even played God of War. Ace Combat, Kingdom Hearts 2...the list goes on). The sad thing is I've given up on playing some of the PS3's library, too: RE 5, Fallout 3, Street Fighter 4, GTA lV, Batman Arkum Asylum, etc.
I have countless games that I haven't touched and probably never will. Chock it up to an industry that is incredibly competitive and is constantly outdoing itself. Gaming is GOOD, these days! That's why I'd be HAPPY with a Wii, not disillusioned, so much to sell it. Talk about not counting your blessings. Mario Galaxy 2 is coming out, along with a new Metroid, Sin and Punishment 2, I'm still hoping that Pikmin 3 will be announced, soon...Nintendo doesn't rely on hype to sell it's games as much as other companies, so it's hard for me to get TOO excited. That said, I know that they have some good titles on the way. New Super Mario Bros blew me away, was a huge surprise, and I'll be playing that one into next year.
I think that a lot of the Wii's problem lies with not a lot of 3rd party support. Back in the day, the NES had support out the ying yang, so much that they had to limit developers like Konami on how many games they could make (but, they just opened up a sister company to get past that). When you look at Nintendo's IPs, you can't help but be impressed. They can't be blamed for only having an amazing game out something like twice a year (more, if we're lucky). I don't think that they don't listen to the fans, as the fans aren't the ones begging for online capability. If you're a fan of Mario, you don't need a headset to enjoy it. I honestly think that they are STRUGGLING, as far as trying to meet the demand. They have two massive audiences to appeal to, now: both the hardcore and the casual, sometimes simultaneously (just look at NSMBW).
Nintendo should be commended, not condemned. If you can't show love for the company that started it all, then I have nothing more to say to you. Count your blessings, because gaming has never been better.
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(for those that don't care to read an essay...sorry, I am, most definitely, a Nintendo fanboy. Couldn't be more proud.)
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Maybe we are forgetting some things.Like that ,in the 80s here in Europe (we are in Eurogamer isnt it) we were playing like mad our 8 bit computers ... Spectrum-C64-Amstrad CPC ....hell we even had the MSX1-2 where most of he sagas we identify with the Nes originated.And if you wanted high end graphics we had the Amiga and Atari St ,both outclassing the Nes by far.
Nobody seems to remember that here in Europe Nintendo pressence was marginal (they didnt even had official distribution but through some contracts with small enterprises).Europe was the only place where the Sega Master System was way bigger that the Nes.
Now ,through the fake glasses of nostalgia ,it seems as if we were playing non-stop the Nes here in Europe when everybody was playing 8bit and 16bit computers and in the final years the Sega Master System.
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It may well be that even a revision won't help. The Wii bears the hallmarks of a fad, promising one thing but delivering another. It has appealed to mainstream consumers with a string of gimmick controllers but there is a strong possibility that interest is waning. Certainly hardware sales have not equated with software sales, suggesting that a lot of people have grown bored with the Wii. 3rd parties in particular are not enjoying returns on their investments which suggests the platform is going to sink deeper into the cesspool of shovelware that it's already in because there simply won't be any point in producing quality titles when they won't sell.
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Agree - I went the Spectrum/Amstrad/Amiga path until the first SEGA console. Nintendo was late to the game (pardon the pun) in my house other than a few Game & Watch titles. Always had a friend with a Nintendo but he never had that many games compared to the mammoth Speccy/Amstrad pirated libraries! I do own a Wii and love the good titles that are released, there just aren't enough of them, that's why my PS3 and 360 get all the attention. Seems to me that things haven't really changed over the years.
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"Wii is good for small children, it's more a toy than a console.
Are there really people older than twelve years old who play Wii? "
The majority of Adults I know would rather not grow up. i.e pay bills, sit in traffic jams twice per day for work, get nagged by girlfriend/wife. So yes, there really are a lot of grown ups who play with Toys like, Wii/Playstation/Xbox.
Kind of ironic , that young teens try so hard to be grown ups and troll the Wii. It all goes down hill once you've been through 'the best 9 months of sex' stage
And the real reason the Wii can not keep selling? Why hasn't anyone considered that a lot of people just don't get time to play video games? If the majority of Adults had nothing to do, I don't see why Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3 couldn't sell 250,000,000 each.
Still don't believe me kiddies? Offer to do the washing, ironing, cooking, pay the bills, then install a Wii on 32" LCD in your parents bedroom for a week and see if they complain about it not being 'grown up' enough.
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I nearly applauded at the end of that
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None of those three activities is something you'd get a granny or child to do, and none of these experiences are possible on another console. If I want to play the kind of games the other console players champion, I'd switch on my PC, possibly pick up my MS gamepad, and off I go.
I can't see any better combi than WiiPC.
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You need to realise that the only way to play games is with a HD console through a HD TV and only-only!-through a traditional controller. Heaven forbid you discover something interesting, either stylistically or through the control method you're using. Although Eurogamer in general is a really smart, intelligent games site a lot of the forum, including some of the mods, are still stuck in 1993 with their teen angst view of gaming.