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Xbox 2 will release 'in late October, early November' News

Xbox 360 News by Eurogamer staff

11 February, 2005

While internet news sources today have reported that Microsoft is readying to launch its next generation Xbox hardware in America and Europe in the fourth quarter of this year, Eurogamer has learnt that the specific timing for the machine's roll-out is late October or early November, and merely weeks after the US launch. The exact date is yet to be solidified.

Speaking under conditions of strict anonymity, senior American and British development, publishing and retail sources have confirmed the launch window in the past weeks.

It is also now widely known among British sources that Microsoft UK is currently in the planning stages of a spectacular and unprecedented launch event in central London for the winter release.

While it has been accepted for some time that Xbox 2, currently codenamed Xenon, would be released in America before the end of the year, the news of a late October/early November launch in both the UK and Europe will send shockwaves through the industry and gaming community on this side of the Atlantic.

Many have expressed concern that Microsoft is forcing the next generation of console hardware too early, and that the current generation still has much to achieve. The most famous example of this came from then Nintendo of Europe MD David Gosen speaking at an ELSPA summit in London last October, where he lambasted Microsoft for pushing a next generation machine to market in 2005, and even went so far as to question Microsoft's motivation as profit.

"In every cycle, some manufacturer not profiting from the current cycle is eager to kick-start the next one," he said at the time.

EA recently confirmed that next generation Xbox titles would ship alongside current generation offerings later this year, although the certainty of a European release this side of 2006 has been muted: until now.

Microsoft has already publicly snubbed the suggestion of Xbox 2 being shown for the first time at GDC in March, and it now seems obvious that E3 will see the grand unveiling of the machine.

A Microsoft spokesman characteristically swatted away any next gen talk: "Microsoft has not made any announcements regarding the next generation. We are currently very focused on further building the success of the Xbox console today and are not speculating on timing for a future version."

However, it must be noted that with the current lack of Xbox console stock still proving to be a huge problem for retailers and the future Xbox first party release schedule having almost completely dried up, it's an interesting comment for Microsoft to make at the point when every publisher and their dog are busy leaking Xbox 2 software information.

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Captain Fetid
11/02/05 @ 12:46
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You can say that again.
Wobbler
11/02/05 @ 12:48
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Forza is now an XBox 2 launch title? :P
Tiger_Walts
11/02/05 @ 12:52
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I don't think Microsoft will ever make their Xbox 1 money back, but then a lot of the infrastructure built for Xbox 1 will be used for Xbox 2 making it a cheaper console for them to roll out.
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11/02/05 @ 12:53
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This kind of news leaks doesn't exactly encourage anyone to buy an Xbox 1 any time this year does it? I'm sure they'll be promising everyone that they're still "fully behind the Xbox (1)", but that's just good ol' PR blurb. I really don't see Xbox 1 continuing to sell long past it's sell-by date like the PS1 did, and I expect MS will drop the first Xbox soon after 2 is out.
Lutz [mod]
11/02/05 @ 12:54
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11/11/05: Halo 3. ;)
pjmaybe
11/02/05 @ 12:56
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Oh great...!! No really, that's kinda fucked the xbox for new releases this year then!

Peej
Lutz [mod]
11/02/05 @ 12:56
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?

Why 05/02/06?
Kolmar
11/02/05 @ 12:57
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I don't think Microsoft will ever make their Xbox 1 money back

Neither did they.
11/02/05 @ 12:57
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/shoots his fat on hearing this news
mcmonkeyplc
11/02/05 @ 12:58
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I tells ya what...my xbox live subscription better work on both! Thats IF I bother to buy this thing.

Little is even known about the god damn thing and its going to be released in september!

moggsy
11/02/05 @ 13:01
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Well, the console might launch this year but it'll probably be another year before any games capable of taking advantage of it are available!
IronGiant
11/02/05 @ 13:02
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Not interested thanks. I'm more than happy with my newly modded XBox that's now a media centre. Have my Cube ready for Res Evil4 and PS2 for DMC3 and other goodies this year. My PSP will be imported from the US next month so i'll be more than content to sit back and wait for Sony and Nintendo to tempt me with their next gen offering. No way i'm being an early adopter this generation.
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11/02/05 @ 13:18
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"Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Microsoft doing exactly what they do best, bulldozing in there trying to take over everything. I really hope nobody buy its"

Much like Sony did with the PS1? They all do it dude... So would any company with a big cash bucket. It's not restricted to this industry; a good example is the relaunch of daewoo as chrysler - if you bought a daewoo car in the last few months, they'll swap it for a brand new chrysler. That costs, but they've got the cash and want to build the brand. It's the way things work nowadays.
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Salvia
11/02/05 @ 13:18
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MS are dropping the Xbox like a bag of hot shit.

Production will cease soon and there will be very few or no ms-published xbox games after q1. They'll urge retailers and publishers to discount the price of xbox games (even new releases) to 'clear the channel' before XBox 2.


Salvia
11/02/05 @ 13:20
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Lovemoose; Sony didn't do this with the PS1. They still encouraged developers to produce games for it long after the PS2 was launched. They're still manufacturing PS1's.

As I said before MS are dropping the Xbox...
Artemus
11/02/05 @ 13:21
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Well I won't be. Xbox 1.5 with Halo 2.5 - no thanks.
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11/02/05 @ 13:23
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Whats the point of releasing a new machine so soon, surely the Xbox 1 still hasnt reached it`s limits. What a cheap way to try and make a bit of cash.
11/02/05 @ 13:26
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"Even more when they pay more attention to european market than to japanese market. At last. "

There isn't a Japanese XBOX market... unles the 388 they sold by accident last week is anything to go by...
11/02/05 @ 13:28
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"Whats the point of releasing a new machine so soon, surely the Xbox 1 still hasnt reached it`s limits. What a cheap way to try and make a bit of cash. "

Welcome to the Microsoft Future on Consoles and gaming my friend... Scary huh?

/Personally I think it's all BS and it will NOT be out in November, but hey :)
WooHoo!!!
11/02/05 @ 13:31
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Right now I feel its too early but come the end of the year I might change my mind.

We have great games up until June as far as I can remember. GTA SA being the last big one.

Perfect Dark
Project Gotham Racing 3
so on for launch.

I would love that but its just a ripoff at launch in the UK so I will probadly wait.
Kolmar
11/02/05 @ 13:33
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I'll buy it.
Even more when they pay more attention to european market than to japanese market.


Out of interest, once you've bought it, how do you buy it, more...? ;)
WooHoo!!!
11/02/05 @ 13:34
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Forza and Jade Empire ! Don't be daft. There are certain Xbox titles. Kameo is definetll an Xbox 2 title. True Fantasy Online is canned, MS own the IP, the studio who was making it is no longer liked by MS since they were taking ages and using MS's money for other games.
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11/02/05 @ 13:35
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Wow, that was a pretty short life cycle for the Xbox.

New Xbox one games will no doubt still come out, but in a similar trickle to the latter day PSOne games when Sony were supporting their new baby, the PS2. Sounds like Xbox 1 hardware isn't really being replenished, even if software is.

So that's a percentage of 20,000,000 Xbox owners, a comparitively tiny user base, being dragged into the Xenon era when the Xbox was just coming into its own. Are they hoping that the gathering momentum for Xbox in the States will continue with the newer more expensive machine with (I imagine) a small launch library?

No backwards compatability by all accounts. With 20,000,000 installed users, as opposed to the 80,000,000+ that Sony will be courting with their backwards compatable machine, will this decidely premature launch really help Msoft's cause as much as they're hoping?

PS3 really is breathing down its neck, and it could only be a matter of months between the two consoles by the looks of it....Oh, and Revolution. :)

It'll be interesting to see what kind of effect this early launch has on the status quo.

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11/02/05 @ 13:39
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Bah, I meant February 9th, that was the date supposedly flashed up during the Halo 2 legendary ending.

In other news, Rare today announced that they were moving all of their forthcoming games onto the XBox2. However, this would only entail a short delay of 2 to 3 years. Providing they're happy with them. And market conditions are right. And the XBox 3 isn't due to be released in the following 18 months.
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11/02/05 @ 13:39
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Too early. If it's true, I smell a cock up in the making.
11/02/05 @ 13:43
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I still think it's bullshit... Where's the 'Offical' announcement... Not that it can slip whenever they feel like it...

Where are the pre-orders!!!! LOL...

naw... I think it's all a wind-up... I really do!
andrewfromdoncaster
11/02/05 @ 13:46
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Xbox 2 and Revolution for me then.

This Xmas should be good, so long as the damn thing comes with a friggin hard drive that i can use on my TV...
Lovemoose
11/02/05 @ 13:47
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"Lovemoose; Sony didn't do this with the PS1. They still encouraged developers to produce games for it long after the PS2 was launched. They're still manufacturing PS1's. "

That wasn't my argument; It was about this: "Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Microsoft doing exactly what they do best, bulldozing in there trying to take over everything. I really hope nobody buy its"

At the time of the PS1, Sony charged into a market ruled by other companies, using their vast cash reserves to push a product. "Bulldozing", is the way big companies do business; if you decry microsoft for doing it, you must also then decry sony for doing it too.
My point was about this, not the lack of support MS are showing for xbox 1 owners. On this, I agree - They're showing a lack of respect for their customers that Sony didn't, when they kept on publishing PS1 games.
Blerk
11/02/05 @ 13:49
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Xbox 2 and Revolution for me then.

This Xmas should be good, so long as the damn thing comes with a friggin hard drive that i can use on my TV...


The chances of getting a new Nintendo home console before Christmas are about the same as Santa himself dropping it off for you on his way to work. :-D
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andyk
11/02/05 @ 13:53
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If it has been wrongly announced it would seem a massive cock-up. But something tells me it will release this year, but with a v.high price tag. When PS3 releases in 2006, MS lower their prices meaning that Sony and Nintendo are always playing catch-up.

by the way whats going on the EG clock?
tpfkanep
11/02/05 @ 13:56
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Dreamcast, anyone?
BeDevil
11/02/05 @ 13:56
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The 'dual launch' games thing seems like a huge pisstake..

Typical scenario: Will you buy NFSU3* for Xbox or Xenon? The only difference being that perhaps maybe it would actually run at 60hz on Xenon, instead of the crappy 30-if-you're-lucky NFSU/NFSU2...

There should be time allowed for full development of ACTUAL new games, new IPs with all new engines, not just ports of existing stuff for the entire first generation of Xenon titles... what's the point?!!?

They could just launch a slimline Xbox for now, and hold off Xenon for another year to allow Halo 3, Gotham 3 [+ some new 'amazing' games, hopefully] a full and useful dev cycle

*insert any EA title here
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11/02/05 @ 14:01
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Ridiculous.....what on earth sort of launch line up will it have?
andrewfromdoncaster
11/02/05 @ 14:04
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"It's not restricted to this industry; a good example is the relaunch of daewoo as chrysler - if you bought a daewoo car in the last few months, they'll swap it for a brand new chrysler. That costs, but they've got the cash and want to build the brand. It's the way things work nowadays."


Chevrolet actually......

/wanker mode off
Kolmar
11/02/05 @ 14:04
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Dreamcast, anyone?
Sure, I'll give ya £3 for it.
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andrewfromdoncaster
11/02/05 @ 14:06
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"The chances of getting a new Nintendo home console before Christmas are about the same as Santa himself dropping it off for you on his way to work. :-D"

Blerk: i wasn't expecting Nintendo to launch it by then, i was just referring to Xbox2 launch. 2 consoles at Xmas would be too much!
ruttyboy
11/02/05 @ 14:07
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This is happening. MS have for all intents and purposes dropped the Xbox (1) already.
IronGiant
11/02/05 @ 14:14
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Lovemoose i think you'll find that Sony originally came into the console industry because they were working with Nintendo on a CD based console. That got nowhere so they took it on alone and never looked back, i hardly call that bulldozing. In fact Sony took marketing by the balls and shook things up considerably, it was playing WipEout with a licenced soundtrack of wicked music that really got me back into games, oh and that bit in Resident Evil when the dogs burst through the window! ;)
Hicksy
11/02/05 @ 14:22
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MS really have wielded out their size 17 shoes on this one haven't they O_O
drumbaby
11/02/05 @ 14:23
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For me it was my first steps into the corridor in Alien Trilogy...and seeing the T Rex in Tomb Raider.
Rusta
11/02/05 @ 14:23
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Anyone have an idea how much it will cost? if they screw up like the realease of xbox 1 at 3 times it costs now I wont get one for years.

I'm on the ferge of buying another xbox for the live fun, but now I'm not sure what to do....
moggsy
11/02/05 @ 14:26
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I wonder if they're going to charge a ridiculous price for it and then drop it a month later like they did with the Xbox 1.
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11/02/05 @ 14:26
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xbox 2 is just a blue xbox 1
Lovemoose
11/02/05 @ 14:38
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"Chevrolet actually......

/wanker mode off"


forgiven - thanks for the correction.... ;)

Did sony bulldoze the PS1 into the market? perhaps that's the wrong kind of term. They certainly used their marketing expertise and cash reserves to help them find a way in. Better known "pure games" companies have tried and failed...

The problem I have here is not about specifics, it's about people bashing "company A", when all they're doing is what any other business would do under the circumstances; ie: given enough cash, "company b" would do the same thing, as they're a business, and that's what they do.

Is xbox2 coming early a good thing? from the point of view of the health of the industry, no it isn't. From the point of view of microsoft moving their own business on, unquestionably it is.

I'd prefer not to see console wars at all, but in an industry as big as it is nowadays, the moneymen in suits are the driving force, and we'll just have to keep our heads down and hope good games are still made, whatever platform they appear on. (I'm looking at you here EA.)
Feanor
11/02/05 @ 14:40
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"xbox 2 is just a blue xbox 1"

LOL.
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11/02/05 @ 15:02
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So they are gonna do it like the dreamcast?
Eighthours
11/02/05 @ 15:04
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Some kind of trade-in system for those with Xboxes? To give money off Xbox 2 launch price, and unannoy those who are annoyed with the shortness of the first machine's lifespan? I'm sure Microsoft will think of some way to pacify such critics.
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11/02/05 @ 15:06
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Oh man, Xbox 1 was shite enough, now they're squeezing out turd number 2 already?

That's a lot of shit.
drumbaby
11/02/05 @ 15:30
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They should make the Xbox plug into the Xbox 2, possibly just a big hole in the Xbox 2 case, so you can run the AV lead from Xbox 1, through Xbox 2, and into your telly.

Presto, instant backwards compatability.
boo
11/02/05 @ 15:36
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Great!
I think there'll still be plenty of developers pushing Xbox 1 titles for a while yet. Plus it may well force the price of the hardware down even more over the coming months - I'd love to get a second Xbox just to mess about with it and chav it up with a clear case and lights etc (purely for ironic effect).

And whether MS are ready, trying to get a jump on Sony or whatever...

I get a buzz out of stuff like hardware launches!
Midnight openings, getting the box home and pulling all the bits and bobs out, switching it on for the first time.

It's videogaming y'know...? Fun?

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