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PS3 to ship without HDMI lead News

PlayStation 3 News by Ellie Gibson

5 September, 2006

North American gamers planning to purchase a 60GB PlayStation 3 will need to purchase a HDMI cable if they want to see those fancy graphics at their finest.

That's according to the specs page on the official US PS3 website, which notes: "HDMI cable not included. Additional equipment may be required to use the HDMI connector."

Sony has long promoted the 60GB PS3's HDMI output as a key feature of the machine. The 20GB model, however, doesn't feature HDMI - and nor does the Xbox 360, as it goes, despite occasional rumours of a hardware revision in the offing.

SCE UK declined to comment on whether the 60GB PS3 will also ship without a HDMI cable here. However, sources close to Sony speculate that Europe will follow the US example by not including a cable in the box, due to the fact that the majority of buyers won't yet own a HDMI-ready TV - and those that do will already have a HDMI lead anyway.

Instead, PS3 is highly likely to be sold with a composite cable and SCART adaptor - just like the PS2.

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Tejstar
05/09/06 @ 12:08
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Who needs HDMI anyway, as long as it has component I'll be happy.
Steroyd
05/09/06 @ 12:10
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It would be stupid and pricey for Sony to include Composite and HDMI cables with the PS3.

It's gotta be one or the other and smart money will be on the one that is compatible with 100% of homes.

oh i forgot it's "Hate Sony Season"

Damn Sony why do they keep ****ing up?
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Tejstar
05/09/06 @ 12:10
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Also, composite cable and SCART adaptor is not an option. If the Premium 360 can ship a component cable with it then Sony had better too!
Steroyd
05/09/06 @ 12:12
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ack i've got my componant, composite HDMI, DVI, SCART mixed up.

there was a time when you only needed one type of cable... awe the old days.
coojam
05/09/06 @ 12:17
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So hang on, there won't be ANY hi definition cables in the box AT ALL? Err...
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05/09/06 @ 12:17
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I think it's beautiful how people realize these things after months.
lennon
05/09/06 @ 12:19
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Perhaps thay have decided they are not ready to start the high definition era yet....
richardiox
05/09/06 @ 12:19
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Wah

SURELY that can't ship without any sort of HD lead? I guess now they havent got the £20 memory card sub-tax they have to get it from elsewhere.

Seriously though, "two outputs running at 1080p" etc etc and then to not even include the lead. One you get anyway in the cheaper pack (which afaik wont even be released here). So to play PS3 in HD you need to spend £425 or whatever it is for the console, £20 say for HDMI and £45 say for a game.
Huntcjna
05/09/06 @ 12:21
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Stuff like this is making me care less and less about this consoles launch by the day.

I can honestly see me not taking any kind of interest until this time next year at the earliest, unless there is some kind of killer first party title I can't get on the 360.
Yossarian
05/09/06 @ 12:23
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wait, no component either? what the fuck Sony
RedPanda
05/09/06 @ 12:26
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Scene: Sony boss sits in office carving PS controller out of Rhino horn. Enter head of marketing.

HoM: "Boss we need to come up with a way to make even more money from those gaijin fools - my team tells me they'll buy the new PS even though we've hiked the price as high as it'll go!!"

The Boss thinks while chewing on a whale sandwich

Boss: "Make the stuff that makes it look so good.......OPTIONAL!!!! Then they'll get all competitive like 'huh mine uses HD, yours looks poo' and be forced to buy even more overpriced hardware from us!"

All : Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!11!!! (etc)

pfft. pfft i say.
NoQuarter
05/09/06 @ 12:27
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You don't need a HDMI cable for HD output.
richardiox
05/09/06 @ 12:30
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"You don't need a HDMI cable for HD output. "

Yeah but you do need a HD cable of some sort. According to the article, and this will hopefully change, Sony arent going to include any HD leads in the retail PS3 box.
smelly
05/09/06 @ 12:31
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For a company which is really pushing the HD output of its console, this does seem rather strange.

And a brill way to add even more money onto the price of an already expensive console.

(gaurantee it'll be a ps3 specific special adapter and wont be cheap)
dose
05/09/06 @ 12:32
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As Steroyd says, there's no way Sony would put in a cable that the minority of buyers would use. They have to supply a cable that 99% of buyers would be able to use plug in and use straight away.
InfiniteFury
05/09/06 @ 12:32
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/is *so* glad he didn't get suckered into an HDTV this early
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bauhaus
05/09/06 @ 12:34
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Hang on?!? My TV aint got HDMI only componant, does thats mean I¬m stuffed?
Toothball
05/09/06 @ 12:34
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It's not so bad. The Gamecube launched in Japan without any video cable in the box at all. I ended up using the composite cable that came with my SNES for years after that.
richardiox
05/09/06 @ 12:34
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@dose

supply both then or better still a switcher unit like with the 360 so you can have component/composite. i assume you could do a smililar system with hdmi/composite?
hjarg666
05/09/06 @ 12:35
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I actually own a HD television. Not that it wasn't a total waste of money in my opinion- but i don't watch much tv anyway. Wifey loves it though, so it's all for good :)

Still, i don't have any HDMI leads. So basically, this is not true that these who have have the leads as well.

Bah, advertising HDMI as the main reason to buy and then forgetting to add cables...
neilka
05/09/06 @ 12:36
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Step 1: Buy 100+ HDMI leads at £5.70 each:
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/...

Step 2: Wait until November and sell to PS3-buying fools on eBay

Step 3: PROFIT!
Tejstar
05/09/06 @ 12:37
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@bauhaus

Component is fine for HD.

smelly
05/09/06 @ 12:38
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As Steroyd says, there's no way Sony would put in a cable that the minority of buyers would use.

Why not? They put in a bluray player, hd output, etc - that according to you only a minority would use?
bauhaus
05/09/06 @ 12:40
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@Tejstar

Yeah mate, I`m running my Xbox thru one at 1080i, actually looks so good it almost justifys the cost of the Wega.

My (probably stupid) question is will the PS3 support componant or just one of them nasty HDMI jobbies?!?

(I`m sure I`m illadvised asking such a mundane question here)
kangarootoo
05/09/06 @ 12:41
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Surely anyone who can afford a TV with an HDMI socket on it can stretch to a cable.

It does suck that its not included (especially if there is no component cable either), but its hardly the end of days is it? See it as configurable, so you buy whatever cable you need at the same time.
Darren
05/09/06 @ 12:42
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While I never expected the PS3 to ship with an HDMI cable anyway, I certainly expected it to have a composite SCART/component video combo lead like the Xbox 360. It seems a stupid decision to sell the 60GB HDD "premium" PS3 without any hi-def cables at all so that would mean forking out an extra £20 for a component lead. Surely that's a bit greedy when the machine is said to retail for around £400?

If Sony acknowledge that most users don't have HDTVs (by not planning on including an HD cable) then why the big push to market hi-def 1080p gaming to the masses?
bauhaus
05/09/06 @ 12:44
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I think its called "Future Proofing"

What the hell does come in the box then??

How many happy kids on Xmas morning find no way to hook the bugger up?
kangarootoo
05/09/06 @ 12:44
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@smelly

"guarantee it'll be a ps3 specific special adapter"

Well I guess, but thats always the case with consoles isn't it? Or does the PS3 have a generic HDMI port on the back?
Dizzy
05/09/06 @ 12:45
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"As Steroyd says, there's no way Sony would put in a cable that the minority of buyers would use"

So why are they including Bluray again?
AcidSnake
05/09/06 @ 12:47
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Bad move...
Like someone said earlier, they should have included both...
I mean with THAT pricetag attached to it, you'd expect it to output HD straight out of the box...

But seriously, can anyone remind me of a good move Sony has made since E3?
lennon
05/09/06 @ 12:49
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What if when using the HDMI connector movies will only play back with a green screen?
rhinoxious
05/09/06 @ 12:53
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So the PS3 was £145 more than the 360 Premium.

If you need to buy a component lead that becomes £165 (probably)

So you could get a 360 and 3 games for the price of a PS3.

that's a big difference, especially for two consoles with lots of titles in common.
Darren
05/09/06 @ 12:53
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LOL

Well I don't intend buying my PS3 for Blu-ray movies anyway, it's too new to be spending a fortune on such an unknown format as it could be the next Betamax. Once the winner of the HD movie format wars is clear then I'll buy a dedicated player, just as I did when I realised that the PS2's DVD playback was complete cack (and in green via RGB SCART)!
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Beano
05/09/06 @ 12:57
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"PS3 to ship without HDMI lead"

So fu**ing what?

I wish EG would not jump on the anti-Sony/PS3 bandwagon which is getting quite old.
Scepticism is fine by me, but not mindless scepticism.
CrumpledPaper
05/09/06 @ 13:02
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It was hardly expected to be included, was it? HDMI cables are pretty expensive, or at least they vary in price depending on length/quality etc. I wouldn't have expected them to include it given the numbers that will actually use it..and to be honest I'd prefer to pick my own cable.
InfiniteFury
05/09/06 @ 13:02
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In fairness it's a good deal less old than the anti-Microsoft/Xbox bandwagon and in comparison we haven't even begun to milk this one dry.
Machiavel
05/09/06 @ 13:05
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Let's hope advertising standards insist the PS3 displays have to use the provided leads - composite output in all fine electrical retailers...

/still shudders at age-old realisation of Console + Decent video lead + memory card (removed, finally)
Freek
05/09/06 @ 13:06
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It's not a big deal from a practical point of view at all, how many people really have a 1080p TV? It just looks bad for Sony PR.

"PS3 is 1080p, the real HD blablabla, 600 bucks is worth it for the full blu ray experience blablab HDMI

Oh yeah, that'll be 40 bucks extra for a cable."
bionutz
05/09/06 @ 13:06
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mmm. okay.
OldB0y
05/09/06 @ 13:07
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For those who can't read:

Instead, PS3 is HIGHLY LIKELY to be sold with a composite cable and SCART adaptor - just like the PS2.

It doesn't say this is definitely the case, it's basically speculation.

Also:

Well I guess, but thats always the case with consoles isn't it? Or does the PS3 have a generic HDMI port on the back?

The more expensive version has HDMI as well as the usual multiAV out, the cheaper one just has the standard multiAV out

and

My (probably stupid) question is will the PS3 support componant or just one of them nasty HDMI jobbies?!?

Yep stupid HDMI is actually better than compnent for a start - it can do 1080p (technically component can to, but BluRay will only allow 1080p via hdmi). As above the expensive PS3 will do component via the multiAV, and hdmi er via the hdmi port, the cheaper one only has the multiAV, so no hdmi
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05/09/06 @ 13:08
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Yes.

The £425 PS3 version really *must* have a HD capable cable included. Since it has a HDMI slot it really should be a HDMI lead.
gamingdave
05/09/06 @ 13:11
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Not suprised at all that it doesnt have an HDMI lead in the box, but it does have an HDMI socket, which is a good thing. Im fed up having several cables for different displays for lots of consoles. My Panasonic projector has got RGB Scart, VGA, S-video, component and composite sockets on it. I know that wiring sockets people might not use into the console would add an additional cost to each unit and they would loose out on cable sales, but I think its about time consoles started having standard video outs on them.
mingster
05/09/06 @ 13:15
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I thought you had to use HDMI for Blueray playback
due to the copy prevention / encryption
Stickman
05/09/06 @ 13:17
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"due to the fact that the majority of buyers won't yet own a HDMI-ready TV - and those that do will already have a HDMI lead anyway."

So, what's the problem then? Oh, wait...it's an Ellie news item.
Feanor
05/09/06 @ 13:19
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"While I never expected the PS3 to ship with an HDMI cable anyway, I certainly expected it to have a composite SCART/component video combo lead like the Xbox 360."

I think this is likely to happen, and a composite/component cable in the US.
El_MUERkO
05/09/06 @ 13:26
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OMG BURn $onEVILy
Morb0
05/09/06 @ 13:35
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No big deal.
space ace
05/09/06 @ 13:40
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nearly 50 comments, that's more like it
ecureuil
05/09/06 @ 13:42
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Fuck Sony, idiots. This is a major fuck up and it proves conclusively that the PS3 will fail and Sony are going to go bust!
ProtoformX
05/09/06 @ 13:42
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I think Microsoft had a good idea with the premium 360 package including a combined component/composite video lead. The fact is that HDTV is still in the vast minority over here so most people won't mind using a standard composite l;ead, if that's what's included in the end. Then the people who have HDTV or various other setups I'm sure can afford to fork out £5 for an HDMI lead - or £20 for an "official" Sony one. (That's not Sony-hating. Microsoft do it too)

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