Resident Evil 4 PS2 dates set

Coming sooner than we thought.

Capcom's masterful slice of survival horror, Resident Evil 4, is coming to the PS2 somewhat sooner than initially anticipated, with both the US and European releases now confirmed for a pre-Christmas release.

While the U.S. will get a street date of October 25th, PAL gamers will pleasantly surprised that the European release is set to follow just over a week later on November 4th.

The game's absence from Capcom's E3 line-up seemed to suggest the game was some way off completion, with many expecting the PAL launch to slip into early next year.

But Capcom Eurosoft reps told Eurogamer recently that print magazines have already been given a taster of the PS2 version of the game, and will be publishing their preview spreads on the game in the last week of August.

With that in mind, we'll be heading over to Hammersmith in the near future to see how the port is shaping up for ourselves, but we're reliably informed that it's "surprisingly close to the GameCube original".

Apparently a few minor compromises have been made to squeeze the game onto the PS2, with slightly less rich texturing and less facial detail, but that in all other respects the game will be identical to the GameCube classic.

Check back in late August/early September for our first impressions of Capcom's big title for Christmas, or while you're waiting, why not have a read of our GameCube review?

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  • deaner #1 7 years ago

    Christmas! Please God, Christmas!
  • Blerk #2 7 years ago

    The shots look fine. Textures aren't as good, but otherwise it's Resi 4 in every respect. I have every confidence in Capcom - they know the PS2 better than most.

    In fact, I'd be buying this if I hadn't already bought the Cube version. :-)

    Are there any extras in the PS2 port?
  • deaner #3 7 years ago

    I wouldn't be surprised if Sony manage to get Capcom to schedule the PAL release around the time of the 360 launch date, and plough a tonne of money into promotions.
  • onyxbox #4 7 years ago

    I've got this on the Cube. PS2 gamers are in for a treat... it's superb!

    BTW: I see Wallmart have leaked the 360 price and game prices... see <a href='http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2005Aug/bga2005 0803031677.htm'>geek.com</a>
  • Ninjamagic #5 7 years ago

    Cube version rocks.

    PS2 will prob be pants.

    Comple in 320x240 resolution, 16 colours and jerko vision!

    No way can the PS2 ever do it like the cube version
  • Rob #6 7 years ago

    When you can buy a cube so cheap these days (like £40 inc some bongos from TrU), why would anyone interested not already have picked up the cube version?
  • Blerk #7 7 years ago

    You're going to end up eating those words, y'know. This is Capcom we're talking about, not some two-bit half-arsed 'can't program for toffee' budget company.

    The PS2 version will be excellent otherwise they wouldn't be bothering doing one.
  • Darkedge #8 7 years ago

    Xbox version PLEASE! it'll look much better than even the cube.
  • krudster #9 7 years ago

    I guess we can put an end to the tired argument soon enough over how good/bad the PS2 version will be. I think it'll be a lot closer to the Cube original than people expected.
  • dadrester #10 7 years ago

    The shots look fine. Textures aren't as good...

    odd... the PS2 has more texture memory than the gamecube, maybe they're using that for something else...
  • smelly #11 7 years ago

    >Xbox version PLEASE! it'll look much better than even the cube.

    Nah, not unless they completely re-did it from scratch. Games will normally only look as good as the machine they were originally written for.

    As for people getting excited about ps2 version? Why not just buy a gcube VERY cheaply and resi (which is also now quite cheap) and play it as it was intended? And while you're at it, you can play killer 7 without the really long load times too.


    "Capcom - they know the PS2 better than most. "

    Yeah.. but then killer 7 (another capcom game) on ps2 is quite bad when compared to the cube version.. I dont understand why people dont just pay peanuts for the cube to play these games.. ho hum

  • [maven] #12 7 years ago

    Gamecube: 1MB embedded texture cache + can texture directly from (low latency) main-ram (24MB)
    PS2: 4MB embedded ram in the GS (from which you have to subtract the space need for frame- & z-buffer)
  • #13 7 years ago

    You poor PS2 owners , please dont fool yourselves! Yep capcom are good but we have all seen the PS2's screenshots for RE4.They're so bad compared to the GC's its almost tear jerking ! Its true dont waist your time waiting months for an inferior version, go buy a cube for a few quid extra. well worth it.
  • Blerk #14 7 years ago

    I dont understand why people dont just pay peanuts for the cube to play these games.. ho hum

    Well... not everyone wants to buy multiple consoles. If you already have a PS2 then £30 for the game rather than £30 for the game and an extra £40 or so for a second hand Cube is quite a bit more expensive, especially if you're not interested in any other Cube games.
  • Blerk #15 7 years ago

    They're so bad compared to the GC's its almost tear jerking !

    Did you have your eyes shut? They look fine.
  • chacha #16 7 years ago

    the gamecube version was not as graphially superior as most think and the xbox probably could make it look better.
    the game cube version has borders which in essence makes the screen size smaller therefore making graphics look a little beter than they wouldbe without borders, look at ninja gaiden no borders and graphically brilliant, shudders to think how good resi 4 could look on an xbox
  • #17 7 years ago

    fine for a PS2 blerk but obviously poor in comparison to the original.
    ps. dont hate me for telling the truth :p
  • Blerk #18 7 years ago

    I've played the Cube version right through. I've seen the PS2 shots. They look fine. The textures aren't as good, but it's still the same game. It's hardly 'ugly'.
  • #19 7 years ago

    chacha if i had to be a fanboy sadly id be an ms one as i love my xbox but i dont particularly think ninja gaiden was visually superior to Re4 on CG . Infact i dont know if ive seen a game that is (on console)
  • smelly #20 7 years ago

    "the game cube version has borders which in essence makes the screen size smaller therefore making graphics look a little beter than they wouldbe without borders"

    eh? Wtf are you on about?


    "They're so bad compared to the GC's its almost tear jerking ! "

    Hmm.. whereas i agree they dont look as good as the cube, and i expect loading times/framerate MIGHT be an issue, and i doubt you'll have the nice stuff like heat haze, etc. I dont think that "almost tear jerking" is really fair. Sounds a bit fanboy-ish to me.
  • #21 7 years ago

    no blerks youre right.its not ugly ,infact its still great looking for ps2 but im a graphics whore and wouldnt really want to play a version that looks worse then one i coulda had a year ago.
  • #22 7 years ago

    smelly i dont actually mind you thinking im a fanboy (although i dont concider myself one). i'll prolly still be able to sleep at night. :D
  • chacha #23 7 years ago

    smelly you stink - lol
  • Darren #24 7 years ago

    Now I thought the GC version of RE4 was absolutely superb but I didn't think the graphics were technically all that great to be honest - they were very good artistically though - seeing at they were very aliased (jaggy looking) in places and suffered from texture shimmering in areas with loads of detail.

    Since these issues are common to most PS2 games, RE4 should look right at home on that format and I doubt it will look noticably different in any major way, which is great news for PS2 owners.
  • smelly #25 7 years ago

    >smelly i dont actually mind you thinking im a fanboy

    i didnt say that. I said the comment sounded fanboy-ish
  • #26 7 years ago

    Darren have a close look at the PS2 screens and them come back. Trust me it IS noticably different.
  • chacha #27 7 years ago

    where are the screenshots
  • zErOb_cOOl #28 7 years ago

    Ninjamagic:
    "Cube version rocks.

    PS2 will prob be pants.

    Comple in 320x240 resolution, 16 colours and jerko vision!

    No way can the PS2 ever do it like the cube version"


    Well, graphics-wise no. And is it such a good game it relies totally on graphics? I think not.

    And have you even seen PS2 games recently. GT4, Tekken 5, God of War? Games that demonstrate exactly what the PS2 is capeable of.
  • tengu #29 7 years ago

    Looks too jaggy for my liking, but so long as it plays the same, that shouldn't be TOO much of an issue.
  • zErOb_cOOl #30 7 years ago

    "As for people getting excited about ps2 version? Why not just buy a gcube VERY cheaply and resi (which is also now quite cheap) and play it as it was intended?"

    Because that will cost £70 (at least) and not £30?
  • Ninjamagic #31 7 years ago

    Man.

    Its Upsetting to see so many misguided folk on here.

    Perhaps they had *Special* Mushrooms when looking at the PS2 version to make them deluded enough to even compare it to the Cube?

    Have you seen how tripe PS2 games look now?

    Have you seen how the development community constantly makes jokes about the pre-50's architecture in the machine?

    Have you see how crap the normal textures look on ANY PS2 game?

    Which planet are these people on?

    RES4 is far superior on the cube and currently the best looking game on owt. including xbox

    Yes i have seen 3DMARK 2005 but it only runs at 15fps on a 3.2Ghz PC with a Nvidia 68000GT. Also its not really a *game* is it.

    I went out and bought a cube just for RES4 when i saw it.

    Cube rocks!
  • #32 7 years ago

    I must admit Tekken5 did impress me bigtime , i really really wish the PS2 didnt have such a problem with anti-aliasing though :(
  • Ninjamagic #33 7 years ago

    Yes PS2 games are getting better but thats the peak now u wont get any much more.

    PS3 version of RES EVIL 5 - now that WOULD be awesome.

    My gist is this: Credit needed when credit is due.

    And Capcom blew all of us away on RES4 for cube. PS2 version will be gameplay good. But simply a shadow of its former Cube big brother.

    We out....
  • zErOb_cOOl #34 7 years ago

    Fair enough.

    Where are these goddam' screenshots anyway?!
  • #35 7 years ago

    Wasp theres no need to be getting upset , you said it yourself, the cube version looks better and came out a year earlier but sony sold more consoles so atleast youre happy eh!
  • aabyssx #36 7 years ago

    Graphics whores! :(
    ...or isn't there anything else interesting in RE4 besides the visuals?
    Edited by 1 at 04/08/05 @ 12:34
  • Blerk #37 7 years ago

    I didn't notice anyone claiming that the PS2 version would be 'better' than the Cube one, or even 'comparable' (at least graphically), ninjamagic. Just a lot of bitter non PS2-owners hoping beyond hope that the PS2 version turns out to be rubbish so that they've got some kind of 'mine's better than yours' ammo for forum-based ranting.

    /shrugs
  • #38 7 years ago

    calling ppl "graphics whores" lol the last refuge of the PS2 owner :p
  • tengu #39 7 years ago

    Yes, petay, because it's not like the PS2 has the far superior games selection of the three consoles, is it?
  • smelly #40 7 years ago

    "calling ppl "graphics whores" lol the last refuge of the PS2 owner :p "

    Funny how when nintendo says gfx dont matter so much that all the other fanboys jump in and laugh isnt it? But when shoe's on other foot.. :-)


    "because it's not like the PS2 has the far superior games selection"

    There's a VAST difference between quantity and quality matey.
  • Tweakmonkey #41 7 years ago

    shudders to think how good resi 4 could look on an xbox

    Obviously the hard disk helps for some games, but personally I don't see any difference between Xbox and GC graphics.

    /shudders to think how good Ninja Gaiden could look on a GC ;-)
  • tengu #42 7 years ago

    Yeah, good thing the PS2 has both in spades, innit?:)
  • Rob #43 7 years ago

    odd... the PS2 has more texture memory than the gamecube, maybe they're using that for something else...

    The GC has hardware S3TC texture compression does it not?
  • #44 7 years ago

    Thats down to personal opinion Tengu, i play my xbox far more then my ps2 or cube. PGR or GT , Doau or Tekken , i know the PS2 has more titles but if you beleive that 'more' equates to superior id have to disagree.
  • savant #45 7 years ago

    Xbox version please, Mr Capcom.
  • tengu #46 7 years ago

    It's not simply that it has more titles, it's that it has more quality titles. It may come down to personal opinion, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that PS2 has a wider variety of truly great titles than the other two. It may sound like fanboyism, but that doesn't make it any less true. Just look at the "best console" thread in the forum to see what the fave console is :)
  • #47 7 years ago

    yes so "in youre personal opinion" the ps2 is youre favourite console...glad you cleared that up mate.
  • tengu #48 7 years ago

    Yes... because it is the best... FACT!
  • #49 7 years ago

    in youre opinion .... *sighs* could go on like this for a long long time
  • tengu #50 7 years ago

    Probably, but I'll still be right in the end. PS2 owns!1!
  • #51 7 years ago

    Ok so to clarify -Tengu feels PS2 is the best - but RE4 still looks better on GC (in youre words) FACT !
  • draven #52 7 years ago

    were are the shots?. If they can get it looking like the silent hill series then il be happy :)
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  • tengu #54 7 years ago

    Heh, I could do this all day... but I won't.
  • Blerk #55 7 years ago

    The shots are on IGN. Go search their PS2 section.

    I can't quite figure out why it's so important to anyone that the version of a game on 'their' console is regarded as the 'best' version. I've already bought and played the Cube version and thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope the PS2 version turns out to be top so that the people who haven't had a chance to play can have their turn.

    Why should it matter what another version is like if you've already played and enjoyed your own copy? o_O
  • Peekaboo #56 7 years ago

    Played the GC version it's nice, not as nice (certainly not the GFX splendour I was expecting having read various reviews etc) as some of the fanboys and 'me toos' apparently contributing to this thread would have you believe. The shots of the PS2 version look good, however I think it's Mike D thats fond of saying you get a better impression of looks when the thing is running and if the PS2 trailer is anything to go by then Capcom have pulled off an admirable feat, it looks great and very close to the Cube version.

    Looking forward to actually seeing and playing the finished version and deciding for myself.
  • #57 7 years ago

    sheesh @ blerk ...so sensible!
  • drumbaby #58 7 years ago

    To be honest, for all the attention I've given the GCN version, I should've said bollocks to the graphics and waited for the PS2 version, thus saving myself the clutter of an unwanted Game Cube.
  • Blerk #59 7 years ago

    if the PS2 trailer is anything to go by

    There's a PS2 trailer? Must go hunt it out and have a look.


    not as nice (certainly not the GFX splendour I was expecting having read various reviews etc) as some of the fanboys and 'me toos' apparently contributing to this thread would have you believe

    It's not graphically spectacular in a 'wow, look at those graphics!' kind of way. To me it's the attention to detail. Little things. The world is very believable and it's the things you normally wouldn't notice that make it such an achievement rather than the number of polygons or the quality of the textures. Atmosphere, y'know?
  • Peekaboo #60 7 years ago

    Blerk -Understood mate, thats pretty much how I felt about it as well, nice little neat touches, however some people/reviews seem to think thats its the Graphical 2nd coming. It IS nice, very nice in places, but I was a bit disappointed with how......... compartmentalised it all felt.

    Trailer should be on IGN btw.
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  • #63 7 years ago

    peekaboo im not being funny but RE is predominantly set in a mansion, and you didnt expect a "compartmentalised" game ? In that respect atleast RE4 improves on previous efforts a bit i feel.

    lol cheers tengu , thought its better to be light hearted bout it
    Edited by 2 at 04/08/05 @ 13:37
  • Xerx3s #64 7 years ago

    Seriously, i played this game 3 times now on the cube. Why would i buy it for the ps2 with a controler that doesnt have what it takes to play this game?

    "Xbox version plz" - No plz. The same thing i said before applies for the xbx controller.

    Its a shame really that the next version wont be gc really. Unless they can bring up similar games, i dont recon that i could be interested to buy a gc.

    ;\
  • Blerk #65 7 years ago

    Seriously, i played this game 3 times now on the cube. Why would i buy it for the ps2 with a controler that doesnt have what it takes to play this game?

    Xerces, it's not for you - it's for the people who haven't already played it.

    I see no reason why the PS2 or Xbox pad can't handle this very nicely, btw.
  • Peekaboo #66 7 years ago

    "peekaboo im not being funny but RE is predominantly set in a mansion, and you didnt expect a "compartmentalised" game ? In that respect atleast RE4 improves on previous efforts a bit i feel. "

    Perhaps the wrong word (And I disagree that it improves on that aspect over the others), it just seemed that each area was box, tunnel/corridor, box, tunnel/corridor, box all in a nice straight line led by the hand progression. In other words, I expected 'compartmentalisation just not to the extreme it appears in this title, exploration and puzzle solving is limited and certainly watered down. As I said on another forum it could have easily have been "generic action franchise no1547" rather than a Res Evil game, it felt at times as if the Res Evil things where thrown in simply to advantage of the franchise name. Don't get me wrong (And why is it people always do), I'm NOT saying it's a bad game, I'm NOT saying it's a bad looking game, all I AM saying is that it's not as nice looking or perhaps as good as people seem to go on about (Certainly feels a bit 'lite' compared to Old School Resi stuff). Sometimes I think the fact it hit a Ninty machine first clouds peoples judgement, I believe Uncle Clive covered this terrible afflication a while back ;-)

    I repeat, once more for the bleachers, it IS a good and nice looking game, just not the be all and end all people seem to think, and as such, having seen the pics and trailers I feel it's premature and downright mindnumbing silly for people to be automatically writing the PS2 version off and especially spouting silly statements such as 'Jerko-Vision' and '16 colours' etc.
  • Ninjamagic #67 7 years ago

    Blerk,

    Fan Boy? Me 2 ?

    I have access to right next to me as I write, a PS2, an XBOX, a GC and a soon to be Power PC.

    I know what im talking about. Credit given when Credit is due...

    Its not about Sales, or PR or PS2 having more games (sure im fine with all that etc...) but about this. I neglected the GameCube.

    Much like the rest of the world it seems!

    However, i was blown away by RES4 on it. Its funny ppl saying its not that good.

    OK - You make something better from such a small peice of kit then....
  • krudster #68 7 years ago

    There is a gallery here you know chaps
    http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=59148 It's been there since E3.
  • #69 7 years ago

    Peekaboo thats youre opinion , i loved all th RE games but thought this was the most fun to play and by far best to look at ( thats my opinion and alot of other ppls too i think) Alot of ppl were glad not to have the puzzles forcing you to retrace youre steps for hours,lots of ppl loved the more action style gameplay, thats all just down to opinion.
    Edited by 1 at 04/08/05 @ 14:29
  • Aysir #70 7 years ago

    What are you guys arguing about?
    Yes the PS2 version is gonna look a little worse than the GC offering. But the GC release missed one important thing...sales. It sold really poorly and the amount of marketing push in the UK by Nintendo and Capcom was really quite silly.
    The PS2 version while not superior will mean the game gets the recognition its due.
    If you already have it, why bitch? you got a great version. For everyone else its an opportunity to play the best in the RE series.
  • Sid-Nice #71 7 years ago

    If you own a PS2? Then buy this game. If you own a Gamecube and haven't bought this game already, then you're mad.

    Lets hope that this sells, as none of the other Capcom Cube exclusives ported over to the PS2 have. Well not in large numbers anyway.

    PS: Some Sony fans might think they are buying 'Devil May Cry'.
  • Roamer #72 7 years ago

    It's an excellent game, and every self-respecting gamer should play it, even if it means waiting for the PS2-version.
  • drumbaby #73 7 years ago

    PS: Some Sony fans might think they are buying 'Devil May Cry'.

    These would be the ones who haven't seen the plentiful screenshots/ trailers/ previews and reviews, right?

    :)
  • Ninjamagic #74 7 years ago

    If you own a PS2? Then buy this game. If you own a Gamecube and haven't bought this game already, then you're mad.
    ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------

    Good way to put it :)
  • tengu #75 7 years ago

    'Dumbed down'? How is it dumbed down? They've already said it'll have more features than the GC version, so if anything, the GC version will end being the 'pretty but dumb' one here.
  • Feanor #76 7 years ago

    I worry about aiming using the left-stick of the Dual Shock. When I bought a GC and RE 4 in January, I also picked up a third party controller. But after a few days I realised aiming was quite sloppy, and so I tried the standard GC pad and the aiming was fine. And the left-stick on that third-party controller was about as loose as the sticks on Dual Shocks.
  • Peekaboo #77 7 years ago

    "Peekaboo thats youre opinion , i loved all th RE games but thought this was the most fun to play and by far best to look at ( thats my opinion and alot of other ppls too i think) Alot of ppl were glad not to have the puzzles forcing you to retrace youre steps for hours,lots of ppl loved the more action style gameplay, thats all just down to opinion."

    Exactly, but I back up my opinion mate, many could learn from that, for the record I adore the Res franchise but however I think you and a lot of others are way off on the assesment of Resi 4 (Just IMHO off course), some people like meat, some people like potatoes, I prefer meat AND potatoes on my plate, and thus for me Resi 4 was inferior to say Resi 1 or Resi 2 (best in the series by a country mile). If anything it also felt much like the survival aspect had all but upped and left town.......

    But thats the beauty of gaming, one mans uber brilliant game is another mans Monkey Ball (A game I royally cannot stand).

    Edited by me because quite simply that didn't read right before.......although it might not be any better now.......
    Edited by 1 at 04/08/05 @ 15:45
  • onyxbox #78 7 years ago

    Blerk wrote:I can't quite figure out why it's so important to anyone that the version of a game on 'their' console is regarded as the 'best' version. I've already bought and played the Cube version and thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope the PS2 version turns out to be top so that the people who haven't had a chance to play can have their turn.

    I agree completely.
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  • Sid-Nice #80 7 years ago

    Resident Evil 4 would be great on the Dreamcast, it's not as if Capcom are porting the game to an 8bit console.
  • #81 7 years ago

    yeh sid but the dreamcast could anti-alias, the PS2 (like 8-bit consoles) cannot.
  • Aysir #82 7 years ago

    "(there is no way the PS2 version will look even almost as good) and cubes are damn cheap. "
    It Does look almost as damn good, the style is still there even if the finishing touches that make the GCN version one the best of its gen aren't there. And guess what Cubes may well be cheap, but most people have just PS2's making it even cheaper for them to get it on PS2.

    "Seeing a very detailed face jump out and scream at you is scarier than a blurred looking blocky one. "
    Textures are reduced, 3D detail hasn't been effected. Textures and all the effects that go with them is what makes PS2 inferior to Xbox and GCN in graphics, it's never had trouble pushing polygons. O.o

    Apart from Tengu's speculatively off-note statement, everyone here agrees that the GCN version will end up being superior so what is being discussed here? Why bash a game, are you being asked to fork out money for it? Is it gonna effect your life that now more people have access to RE4?

    In the same way I was glad that all the PSOne Resident Evils came out on Gamecube so that I could have my whole RE collection on one console, i'm sure theres a Lot of PsOne/2 people who will be glad they can have most of the series on PS2 (Excluding Outbreaks and Zero's for GCN and PS2 respectively )


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  • TS2610 #84 7 years ago

    Why all this debate on how it'll look on PS2? There are vids out there of Resi 4 on PS2, and it looks lovely.
  • Aysir #85 7 years ago

    "Eat my ass Aysir. "
    Nice to see an out of the blue comment like that :) Trying to create an argument where there is none? Meh....

    "The cube can push 7 times more polygons than the PS2!"
    I didn't say Ps2 was better, I said PS2 has no problems i.e. it has enough of a polygon count to still make games like Silent Hill 3 and Jak 3 look really good, good enough that no ones really worried that there should be more polygons in there. ;)
    Edited by 1 at 05/08/05 @ 07:06
  • SpaceKoala #86 7 years ago

    "The cube can push 7 times more polygons than the PS2!"

    Whoa! Hold on there Lavalant... 7 times?... geez... you sure?
    I thought the one thing that PS2 had going for it is the amount of polys it can push. 7 times... really? Wow.

    "...the dreamcast could anti-alias, the PS2 (like 8-bit consoles) cannot."

    Eh? It may have lots of games that don't use anti-aliasing, but it CAN anti-alias.

    In any case, I don't think the PS2 is going to have problems making Resident Evil 4 look good - its the frame rate I worry about... :)
  • deaner #87 7 years ago

    Granted the GC version doesn't appear to have the z-buffering issues that the PS2 screens show, but that's nothing new. Also, the lighting effects seem better on the PS2 screens.

    Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

    <a href=http://www.gamespot.com/gamecube/advent ure/residentevil4/screenindex.html>GC screens @ Gamespot</a>
    <a href=http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/reside ntevil4/screenindex.html>PS2 screens @ Gamespot</a>
  • Zuiyo #88 7 years ago

    I don't see why the PS2 version shouldn't be satisfactory. It's only going to be a slightly decrease in visual quality over very specific areas, and that is not really what the game is about.

    Fanboys, go to hell. Don't create tension.
  • #89 7 years ago

    Jesus ! it sure is hot in hell ...AAAAGH im burning BURRRNNNIIINNNGGG ! :p
  • deaner #90 7 years ago

    Besides, I'd happily accept jaggies if it means I can play it on the PS2, if only because it has a (far) better controller.

    I have the GC version, but that's probably the main reason I'll get the PS2 version.

    It'll be a bonus that Capcom will undoubtedly redesign and improve parts of the game (like they did with Code Veronica X), and maybe add additional content.
  • Aysir #91 7 years ago

    Additional content would be cool. I know it would piss off a lot of people who only have GC but for people who have both consoles it would be a incentive to buy again. I probably would end up buying it again if that were the case :)
    As Koala said, the frame rate is the only real question mark over the PS2 versions head O.o
  • #92 7 years ago

    koala the ps2's texture interpolation engine has the severe inability to anti-alias full screen on anything like a modern game ... i dont claim to be an expert though so just out of interest , what titles have you seen with full screen anti aliasing?
  • Aysir #93 7 years ago

    Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance used a sort of full-screen Anti-Alias
  • SpaceKoala #94 7 years ago

    Petey_Pan: God of War has an option for softening the screen - I'm not sure if it's full blown anti-alias, but it does make the game like like it's running on an xbox (no jaggies or flicker).

    But most AAA PS2 titles are anti-aliased and shimmer-free:
    Snake Eater, Silent Hill 3/4, Tekken 5

    Even Tekken Tag Tournament had decent anti-aliasing, though I think that was only limited to the PAL version. Japan got the flicker-fest edition :)
    Edited by 1 at 05/08/05 @ 13:06
  • Peekaboo #95 7 years ago

    Just to throw my tuppenece worth in again but in Edge Equip they had several interviews with several devs, the same thing seemed to arise, the PS2 in raw terms is more powerful than the cube and has more main ram than the cube (None of this 4Mb vram pish as they just stream straight from the 32Mb these days I'm led to believe (Tekken 4 interview from a while back on Gamespot)), where the cube makes it up however is the S3TC texture compression and the abiltiy to do serveral funky effects in hardware that if done on the PS2 would need to be done in software.

    There was also the IGN head to head thing from a while back with Rubin and one of the Factor 5 guys crowing on about power etc. Again, same sort of conclusion. Also, the Red Faction 2 devs, Volition, where quoted as having probs working round the smaller main ram and less ommph of the cube while porting RF2. Another interesting one was Criterion who where quoted as saying that due to the way in which the PS2 displays it's GFX the PS2 version of Black would be the better 'looking' now I don't know what was meant but there you go regardless.

    Now I'm not saying I'm an expert, far from it, but I'll believe real world devs with games on the shelves before I believe any random dude on a forum spouting nonsense like he understands it ;-)

    With Res Evil 4, the PS2's problem, as I understand it, will be in pushing the same quality of textures as the Cube and maintaining the framerate, thus you'll have slightly less quality textures and a bit of Aliasing but hopefully a comparable framerate with all the lighting and particle effects intact, if they can reproduce some of the hardware based GC effects that is without too big a hit. You never know, if the code is re-written well enough for the PS2 then we may see some improvements in certain areas.......

    Note -The last paragraph is purely speculation on my very loose understanding of how these things work, and, more importantly, it's more than likely weeeellllllll of the mark ;-)
  • deaner #96 7 years ago

    Big_Bad_Blonde...

    From what I've read of developers comparing consoles, they tend to believe that the PS2 can offer them more felxible on-screen visuals than other available consoles. Despite the difficulty in programming. I believe this is largely due to the configuration of the co-processor and vector units - but I don't know the details.

    What really lets the PS2 down is it's lack of any dedicated z-buffering technology. This gives polygons jagged edges. It can be overcome with skilled and careful game coding, but most of the time developers don't bother. A good example of when they do - is the Gran Turismo series.

    Both the GameCube and the XBox have dedicated anti-aliasing technology, and other facilities, such as increased memory bandwidth to allow for more improved finishing on display graphics, but with a slightly reduced array.

    All that aside, there's not a great amount of difference between the current generation of consoles. What probably makes the XBox a little better is the Hard Disc and the superior (to the PS2), online service (though you do have to pay for it - unlike the PlayStation Network).

    If they wanted to and with a little hard work, I dare say any game on any system could be ported to the others. Exclusivity dealings are all that prevent that.

    What really makes the PS2 more appealing and more popular is the games. It has a much larger and more varied catalogue of games.

    Oh, and it's the only one with a sensible controller.

    But I'd say the one console you could live without would be the GameCube. Games are limited in range and generally suffer a lot of the old Nintendo failings, such as irresponsive controls.

    But they are cheap, that's why I've got one.

    Now I await the onslaught of Wikipedia enthusiasts to tell me why the PS2 is crap and everything I've said is wrong because Microsoft and Nintendo haven't published it.
  • Peekaboo #97 7 years ago

    Wasp -No it doesn't, it has 24Mb of main ram (1T-Sram) and 16 Mb of back up Dram used for caching, with something like 3 Mb (2 for frame buffering and 1 for texture caching)embedded ram (again 1T -Sram I think) on the GFX/Sound/IO chip (Flipper ? or the other one with the silly name ?).

    Incidently look here if you don't believe me
    http://www.ninten do.com/techspecgcn
    Edited by 3 at 05/08/05 @ 13:34
  • Feanor #98 7 years ago

    "Besides, I'd happily accept jaggies if it means I can play it on the PS2, if only because it has a (far) better controller."

    Maybe for Pro Evo, but the left analog stick on the GC controller is significantly better than the sticks on a Dual Shock when it comes to the minute adjustments needed for aiming.
  • Peekaboo #99 7 years ago

    Wasp -You mean 43 as opposed to 40.

    48 ?? Where did you go to school young man ??!! ;-)

    Edited by 2 at 05/08/05 @ 14:07
  • deaner #100 7 years ago

    I find the analog stick on the Gamecube slips from my thumb because it's not textured enough and has too small a thumb-base.
  • Genji #101 7 years ago

    The pertinent question... will the PS2 version have an optional chainsaw controller? I think not!

    Well... maybe
  • #102 7 years ago

    Is tekken5 anti-aliased ? Dont get me wrong its one of my fave games but apart from the two blurovision stages (moonlight&secretgarden) its as jagz as u can get compared to say DoA on Xbox?

    Edit: Also it seems that the fuckwits at sony dont learn because the latest issue of edge has confirmed that the PS3 has the same flaws (as in no specific anti-aliasing kit ) so once again its all left down to the game developers . Edge reckon the first flush of PS3 games may well still suffer with the sad old jaggies look even untill the poor developers find a way round it.....360 for me.
    Edited by 3 at 06/08/05 @ 08:26